Jordan vs Twin Towers Robinson/Duncan Spurs 98

[-23-]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQePkBnD0vo

Incredible that Jordan can weave his way inside with the two towers cloggin the paint.

[Foster5k]

Jordan's the G.O.A.T for a reason. Played in a harder era, yet he still was unstoppable.

[Young X]

Bulls would've cooked the Spurs the next season if they stayed together.

[Beastmode88]

In before this becomes a MJ vs Bran thread. :facepalm

[-23-]

In before this becomes a MJ vs Bran thread. :facepalm


Well considering that MJ could score at will inside the paint, and dominate robinson/duncan there is no discussion between MJ and bran.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Bulls would've cooked the Spurs the next season if they stayed together.
Definitely. Especially if Krause didn't have his ego to match his waist size. Resign Pip, and PJ. Add some youthful legs around MJ, and Pip? My god. They would've won in 1999, competed in 2000 for more chips. Look at MJ with his heart at 35, devoid of his insane hops, still attacking the basket on multiple 7 footers. LeBron with 2 more inches, and 35 more pounds can't even do the same.

[j3lademaster]

#unimpressed

That midget Duncan is the size of a shooting guard in the current era.

Real talk this is what lebron needs to learn. His ONLY weakness at this point is that he likes to survey the court when he has the ball and misses a lot of easy opportunities if he'd have made his move right away.

[SamuraiSWISH]

His ONLY weakness at this point is that he likes to survey the court when he has the ball and misses a lot of easy opportunities if he'd have made his move right away.
Agreed, but MJ had superior intelligence, foot work and skill though.

[dubeta]

Definitely. Especially if Krause didn't have his ego to match his waist size. Resign Pip, and PJ. Add some youthful legs around MJ, and Pip? My god. They would've won in 1999, competed in 2000 for more chips. Look at MJ with his heart at 35, devoid of his insane hops, still attacking the basket on multiple 7 footers. LeBron with 2 more inches, and 35 more pounds can't even do the same.

Biased stan confirmed? LeBron is clearly superior at attacking the basket than MJ

Only a blantant stan would say otherwise

LeBron owning multiple big men at once: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3EMyXNpIDY

[SCdac]

that move and shot @ 4:55 :bowdown:

[BrainDead]

Dang man, that Michael Jordan guy was pretty dam good. :applause:

[WeGetRing2012]

Bulls would've cooked the Spurs the next season if they stayed together.

Phil > Pop

Kobe & Shaq handled that.

[mehyaM24]

not the same spurs team as this year

spurs > bulls in 5

[dc_chilling]

Lol at people acting like this was some revolutionary game.

He dropped 30 on the Spurs and had a couple lay ups in the paint.

Watch some footage of Shaq vs the twin towers.

Or watch Lebron's dunk on a prime Duncan.

Both were more impressive than anything in these highlights.

Good game nonetheless from MJ.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Dat post game. Even with his athleticism no longer what it once was, he goes right into and finishes over Duncan and Robinson repeatedly.

[Harison]

Good old days, I miss watching MJ play :cry:

[Anaximandro1]

Bulls would've cooked the Spurs the next season if they stayed together.


97/98 Spurs were an unfinished product and it seems like Jordan had a tough time ... Father Time and the Spurs would probably have beaten the Bulls in 1999.


Nov 3, 1997 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199711030CHI.html)

Mar 14, 1998
(http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199803140SAS.html)

Game 1 Jordan 29 pts, TS% 34.8 (FG 12/ FGA 39)

Game 2 Jordan 30 pts, TS% 59.8 (FG 12 / FGA 22)

Series Jordan 29.5 pts, TS% 44.2 (FG 24 / FGA 61)


.
Watch some footage of Shaq vs the twin towers.

Or watch Lebron's dunk on a prime Duncan.

Both were more impressive than anything in these highlights.

:lol

1999 WCSF (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_1999_WCS.html#SAS-LAL)

2001 WCF
(http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2001_WCF.html#LAL-SAS)
2002 WCSF
(http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2002_WCS.html#LAL-SAS)
2003 WCSF
(http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2003_WCS.html#SAS-LAL)
2007 NBA Finals
(http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2007_finals.html#SAS-CLE)

1999 Shaq 23.8 pts TS% 50.6

2001 Shaq 27.0 pts TS% 54.7

2002 Shaq 21.4 pts TS% 48.7

2003 Shaq 25.3 pts TS% 59.2

2007 Bron 22.0 pts TS% 42.8 (eFG% 37.8)

[Lebronxrings]

yawn. There was barely any defense played there. I do give the spurs credit, if they had touched michael jordan, it would be a foul.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQePkBnD0vo

Incredible that Jordan can weave his way inside with the two towers cloggin the paint.

The two greatest shooting guards of all time wrecked havoc on them ;).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkvpnmAk2xU

[NBAplayoffs2001]

yawn. There was barely any defense played there. I do give the spurs credit, if they had touched michael jordan, it would be a foul.
:biggums:
And the man you have wet dreams to every night doesn't get those? What NBA have you been watching for the past few years son?

[Lebronxrings]

:biggums:
And the man you have wet dreams to every night doesn't get those? What NBA have you been watching for the past few years son?
You kidding me? Lebron gets no calls. You are lying if you think lebron gets the benefit of the whistle like mj/kobe/durant/spurs

[The_Pharcyde]

Biased stan confirmed? LeBron is clearly superior at attacking the basket than MJ

Only a blantant stan would say otherwise

LeBron owning multiple big men at once: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3EMyXNpIDY

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=317950

Not true,
Lebron Stan confirmed! Scared of durant so makes his username a shot at the guy

Lol!

[jzek]

90s was the decade of the NBA big men (Shaq, Hakeem, Robinson, Ewing, Malone, Barkley, etc.) and Jordan DESTROYED them all.

[DonDadda59]

You kidding me? Lebron gets no calls. You are lying if you think lebron gets the benefit of the whistle like mj/kobe/durant/spurs

:rolleyes:

Free throws attempts per field goal attempts rate (FTr)

Jordan career FTr: .358

Lebron career FTr: .430

Your story doesn't check out, chief.

[kamil]

MJ's vertical leap allowed him to do a LOT of things in the paint. That kind of hangtime is a huge benefit.

[DonDadda59]

MJ's vertical leap allowed him to do a LOT of things in the paint. That kind of hangtime is a huge benefit.

Yup, in the vid you see several instances where Robinson perfectly challenges his shot but MJ just hangs in the air a half second longer, enough time to get the shot off over the D.

And that was him at 34/35.

[played0ut]

ItS more than his hangtime-- he's very good at instantly taking advantage of the smallest holes in defense.

Look at his game 5 finals vs the suns. Practically half his fg's were drives into clogged lanes. That's ****ing crazy.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

ItS more than his hangtime-- he's very good at instantly taking advantage of the smallest holes in defense.

Look at his game 5 finals vs the suns. Practically half his fg's were drives into clogged lanes. That's ****ing crazy.

I remember drooling over my pajamas while watching that for the first time in ages earlier this year. I tried to do the same thing in the gym and got blocked every time :cry:

[sportjames23]

GOAT always gonna GOAT. :bowdown:

[Blue&Orange]

Real talk this is what lebron needs to learn. His ONLY weakness at this point is that he likes to survey the court when he has the ball and misses a lot of easy opportunities if he'd have made his move right away.
How will Lebron cherry pick and stat pad if he doesn't survey the court?

[veilside23]

alot of insecured fans bashing MJ lets see lebron 5-6 from now if he doesnt have that athleticism any more if he can still dominate the game like what MJ did back in his day... LoL at lebron not getting calls... kids

[NBAplayoffs2001]

alot of insecured fans bashing MJ lets see lebron 5-6 from now if he doesnt have that athleticism any more if he can still dominate the game like what MJ did back in his day... LoL at lebron not getting calls... kids

Those flops doe. Buddy needs to win an Oscar before Dicaprio ASAP

[aj1987]

:rolleyes:

Free throws attempts per field goal attempts rate (FTr)

Jordan career FTr: .358

Lebron career FTr: .430

Your story doesn't check out, chief.
I still don't understand why people here think that you know anything about basketball. Comparing a player who scores primarily at the basket, and another who scores equally from midrange and at the rim? Stop being such a ****ing retard every time.

@SWISH, You literally are the most insecure MJ stan of all time. Bringing up LeBron in a thread which has nothing to do with him? Go back to protecting his manhood size, dude.

[-23-]

MJ's vertical leap allowed him to do a LOT of things in the paint. That kind of hangtime is a huge benefit.

This is a 35 year old MJ... imagine a 29 year old MJ against this team:bowdown:

[Collie]

Jordan was a genius at slipping through defenses. His ability to recognize seams in the defense and taking advantage is GOAT level stuff. He doesn't even do it with pure athleticism here, just general craftiness. It's what separates him as a slasher from a guy like Wade. MJ could do it from a post up, a pick and roll, a drive. Anything.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Jordan was a genius at slipping through defenses. His ability to recognize seams in the defense and taking advantage is GOAT level stuff. He doesn't even do it with pure athleticism here, just general craftiness. It's what separates him as a slasher from a guy like Wade.

Yes Wade IMO played like baby Jordan his whole career. A fun player to watch but he never had the skill level to become crafty enough to extend his ability to get to the rim after his athleticism deteriorated. A rare skill to have and MJ did.

[DonDadda59]

I still don't understand why people here think that you know anything about basketball. Comparing a player who scores primarily at the basket, and another who scores equally from midrange and at the rim? Stop being such a ****ing retard every time.

Go ahead and find me stats comparing LeBron's post ups/drives per game and MJ's. I'll wait.

Lebron (19.9 FGA, 4 3s/gm): 8.6 FTA/gm

Jordan (22.9 FGA, 1.7 3s/gm): 8.2 FTA/gm

Bron takes 3 less shots per game, and considerably more 3s per game than Jordan did, yet he gets more FTA attempts, at a much higher rate. But obviously you know something the rest of us don't and you're about to post the facts that prove it.

Go ahead.

[aj1987]

Go ahead and find me stats comparing LeBron's post ups/drives per game and MJ's. I'll wait.

Lebron (19.9 FGA, 4 3s/gm): 8.6 FTA/gm

Jordan (22.9 FGA, 1.7 3s/gm): 8.2 FTA/gm

Bron takes 3 less shots per game, and considerably more 3s per game than Jordan did, yet he gets more FTA attempts, at a much higher rate. But obviously you know something the rest of us don't and you're about to post the facts that prove it.

Go ahead.
Last season, LeBron averaged 41% of his shots "at the rim" on 17.6 FGA (according to BBREF) and averaged 7.6 FT's a game. MJ attempted 14% of his shots at the rim in '03 on 18.6 FGA (closest number of FGA's I could find with his shot chart) and attempted 4 FT's a game.

41% shots at rim and 7.6 FTA's. 14% shots at rim and 4 FTA's.

[DonDadda59]

Last season, LeBron averaged 41% of his shots "at the rim" on 17.6 FGA (according to BBREF) and averaged 7.6 FT's a game. MJ attempted 14% of his shots at the rim in '03 on 18.6 FGA (closest number of FGA's I could find with his shot chart) and attempted 4 FT's a game.

41% shots at rim and 7.6 FTA's. 14% shots at rim and 4 FTA's.

So you're comparing 28 year old LeBron to 40 year old Jordan coming off of knee surgery?

http://automodia.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/bruh.jpg

[NBAplayoffs2001]

So you're comparing 28 year old LeBron to 40 year old Jordan coming off of knee surgery?

http://automodia.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/bruh.jpg

But but but but 40 is the new 28!

[SamuraiSWISH]

So you're comparing 28 year old LeBron to 40 year old Jordan coming off of knee surgery?

http://automodia.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/bruh.jpg
I was just about to say. Nickname was Floor Jordan. Got everything off pure intelligence, and craftiness. Literally no athleticism playing positions that were the most talented, and athletic in the league: SG / SF. 39, and 40 years old. With bad knees. He probably got most of his free throws off smart pump fakes in those 2 seasons.

[aj1987]

So you're comparing 28 year old LeBron to 40 year old Jordan coming off of knee surgery?

http://automodia.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/bruh.jpg
And yet a 38 year old gimpy MJ averaged more FT's, while taking less shots at the rim (relative to shots at the rim). Dat Stern protection doe (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToN9FpJD4CI).

Wasn't that what my whole post was about? LeBron averages more FT's than MJ because he scores more at the rim. How ****ing hard is that to understand?

[NBAplayoffs2001]

And yet a 38 year old gimpy MJ averaged more FT's, while taking less shots at the rim (relative to shots at the rim). Dat Stern protection doe (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToN9FpJD4CI).

Wasn't that what my whole post was about? LeBron averages more FT's than MJ because he scores more at the rim. How ****ing hard is that to understand?
How hard is it for to see 40 and 28 are not similar numbers?

[aj1987]

How hard is it for to see 40 and 28 are not similar numbers?
Are you ****ing retarded? 40 year old MJ got 4 FT's a game while taking 14% of his shots at rim. LeBron at 29 is getting 7.6, while taking 41% of his shots at the rim.

Seriously, that's simple enough of a 4th grader to understand. :facepalm

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Are you ****ing retarded? 40 year old MJ got 4 FT's a game while taking 14% of his shots at rim. LeBron at 29 is getting 7.6, while taking 41% of his shots at the rim.

Seriously, that's simple enough of a 4th grader to understand. :facepalm

well logic that you don't seem to understand. 29 and 40 is a huge difference physically. Your body can't hold up in the paint. Heck if you drink alcohol (not sure if you do), you get a way worse hangover at 40 most likely because your body isn't as resilient. Your body cannot take that many shots at the paint without being on the injury reserve list if you are MJ for more than 1/2 the season. Ever taken elementary biology to understand why his shots are far less at the rim at 40 or do I also need to show you how to clean yourself after using the bathroom?

[Rocketswin2013]

Are you ****ing retarded? 40 year old MJ got 4 FT's a game while taking 14% of his shots at rim. LeBron at 29 is getting 7.6, while taking 41% of his shots at the rim.

Seriously, that's simple enough of a 4th grader to understand. :facepalm
Point?

[aj1987]

well logic that you don't seem to understand. 29 and 40 is a huge difference physically. Your body can't hold up in the paint. Heck if you drink alcohol (not sure if you do), you get a way worse hangover at 40 most likely because your body isn't as resilient. Your body cannot take that many shots at the paint without being on the injury reserve list if you are MJ for more than 1/2 the season. Ever taken elementary biology to understand why his shots are far less at the rim at 40 or do I also need to show you how to clean yourself after using the bathroom?
Exactly, you moron. This is just stupid. I literally can't be anymore clear. I'll try one more time.

40 YO MJ got more FT's than a prime LeBron, relative to the number of shots they took at the rim.

If you still can't understand that, you might be legit retarded.


Point?

Go back and read the post which I replied to first. Dondadumbass's post. Dude was saying that LeBron gets more FT's than MJ, without any context, by just comparing their FGA's.

[DonDadda59]

And yet he averaged more FT's, while taking less shots at the rim. Dat Stern protection doe (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToN9FpJD4CI).

Wasn't that what my whole post was about? LeBron averages more FT's than MJ because he scores more at the rim.

What the f*ck are you talking about? :wtf:

In '03 he had a .212 FTr, the lowest of his career. Averaged 4 FTA, the lowest of his career. He was a broken down 40 year old, but still good enough to get 20/6/4 based purely off of skill.

Bron had a .432 FTr this past season.

Someone already linked this earlier, but you must've missed it:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=317950

A short chart featuring 126 game sample of Jordan from '90-'92.

So Jordan took 42.6% of his shots in the paint. From 90-92, Jordan was taking 23 FGA (1.8 3s) and averaged 8 FTA. That's a FTr of .349.

The span that Bron took a similar amount of FG ('06-08) he took 44.6% of his shots in the paint, was taking 22 FGA (4.5 3s) and averaged 10 FTA. That's a FTr of .449.

So no matter what angle you look at it from- Bron gets more FTs, at a higher rate, despite taking less shots, and way more from 3. And this is not even taking into consideration the rule changes (no handchecking/3 sec. violation opening up the paint for more drives)

But tell me more about 40 year old Jordan. Can't wait.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

What the f*ck are you talking about? :wtf:

In '03 he had a .212 FTr, the lowest of his career. Averaged 4 FTA, the lowest of his career. He was a broken down 40 year old, but still good enough to get 20/6/4 based purely off of skill.

Bron had a .432 FTr this past season.

Someone already linked this earlier, but you must've missed it:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=317950

A short chart featuring 126 game sample of Jordan from '90-'92.

So Jordan took 42.6% of his shots in the paint. From 90-92, Jordan was taking 23 FGA (1.8 3s) and averaged 8 FTA. That's a FTr of .349.

The span that Bron took a similar amount of FG ('06-08) he took 44.6% of his shots in the paint, was taking 22 FGA (4.5 3s) and averaged 10 FTA. That's a FTr of .449.

So no matter what angle you look at it from- Bron gets more FTs, at a higher rate, despite taking less shots, and way more from 3. And this is not even taking into consideration the rule changes (no handchecking/3 sec. violation opening up the paint for more drives)

But tell me more about 40 year old Jordan. Can't wait.

OWNED!

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[ArbitraryWater]

Are you ****ing retarded? 40 year old MJ got 4 FT's a game while taking 14% of his shots at rim. LeBron at 29 is getting 7.6, while taking 41% of his shots at the rim.

Seriously, that's simple enough of a 4th grader to understand. :facepalm

that's just wow... more ft's as 40 year old with like half the plays at the basket? smh

[ArbitraryWater]

OWNED!

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

your post from the previous page totally contradicted yourself, retard...

try making an argument once for yourself, psychobe

[NBAplayoffs2001]

your post from the previous page totally contradicted yourself, retard...

try making an argument once for yourself, psychobe

:cry: Thanks now I'm going to go cry myself to bed and throw the basketball at my nuts until they are blue.

Sorry dear sir.

[aj1987]

What the f*ck are you talking about? :wtf:

In '03 he had a .212 FTr, the lowest of his career. Averaged 4 FTA, the lowest of his career. He was a broken down 40 year old, but still good enough to get 20/6/4 based purely off of skill.

Bron had a .432 FTr this past season.
Idiot, that a BS stat that you made up. Why don't you do it for Shaq and call his career "manufactured". It doesn't work that way because it doesn't take into account the number of shots he took at the rim.


Someone already linked this earlier, but you must've missed it:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=317950

A short chart featuring 126 game sample of Jordan from '90-'92.

So Jordan took 42.6% of his shots in the paint. From 90-92, Jordan was taking 23 FGA (1.8 3s) and averaged 8 FTA. That's a FTr of .349.

The span that Bron took a similar amount of FG ('06-08) he took 44.6% of his shots in the paint, was taking 22 FGA (4.5 3s) and averaged 10 FTA. That's a FTr of .449.
:facepalm

MJ averaged 27% of his shots at the rim. LeBron averages ~40%. You tell who should get more FT's.

Stop with your BS FTr "stat" which you made up. That genuinely makes you look like an idiot.


So no matter what angle you look at it from- Bron gets more FTs, at a higher rate, despite taking less shots, and way more from 3. And this is not even taking into consideration the rule changes (no handchecking/3 sec. violation opening up the paint for more drives)

But tell me more about 40 year old Jordan. Can't wait.

I never said LeBron gets fewer FT's, you Jordan nut muncher. All I said was that you need context. LeBron takes more shots at the rim. You asked me for proof and I provided it. Even your link PROVES that LeBron TAKES MORE SHOTS AT THE RIM THAN PRIME/PEAK MJ.

I guess I need to make up stats like you as well. I think I'll make up a FTrR stat (FT rate at the rim).

Once again. You asked me to provide proof that LeBron averaged more shots at the rim, and I did give you the proof. MJ still averaged more FT's, relative to the number of shots that he took at the rim. Take the L and move on, kid.

[DonDadda59]

Idiot, that a BS stat that you made up. Why don't you do it for Shaq and call his career "manufactured". It doesn't work that way because it doesn't take into account the number of shots he took at the rim.


:facepalm

MJ averaged 27% of his shots at the rim. LeBron averages ~40%. You tell who should get more FT's.

Stop with your BS FTr "stat" which you made up. That genuinely makes you look like an idiot.



I never said LeBron gets fewer FT's, you Jordan nut muncher. All I said was that you need context. LeBron takes more shots at the rim. You asked me for proof and I provided it. Even your link PROVES that LeBron TAKES MORE SHOTS AT THE RIM THAN PRIME/PEAK MJ.

I guess I need to make up stats like you as well. I think I'll make up a FTrR stat (FT rate at the rim).

So now I'm making up stats? :oldlol:

And stop acting like guys driving to the rim is the only way to get whistles. Explain Harden or Durant's ridiculously high FT totals/rates.

Again, nothing changes the fact that LeBron James gets more FTA at a much higher rate than Jordan did in his career despite the former taking fewer shots and far more 3s per game.

[ArbitraryWater]

So now I'm making up stats? :oldlol:

And stop acting like guys driving to the rim is the only way to get whistles. Explain Harden or Durant's ridiculously high FT totals/rates.

Again, nothing changes the fact that LeBron James gets more FTA at a much higher rate than Jordan did in his career despite the former taking fewer shots and far more 3s per game.

You still didn't know those are incredible ref-baiters who get calls on jumpers?
They're like the exception to the rule... Weren't you around when this resulted in some huge backlash for them?

Dude you've been acting hella retarded lately :biggums:


Of course you get ft's at the basket... Jeezuz like explaining the basics of the game ot a kid.

[DonDadda59]

You still didn't know those are incredible ref-baiters who get calls on jumpers?
They're like the exception to the rule... Weren't you around when this resulted in some huge backlash for them?

Dude you've been acting hella retarded lately :biggums:


Of course you get ft's at the basket... Jeezuz like explaining the basics of the game ot a kid.

:biggums:

I WAS the huge backlash:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=331918

But since I'm a kid learning the basics of the game... maybe you can explain how James Harden has been getting 9-10 FTA the past 2 years despite taking only 17 shots per game with 6-7 of them being 3s... with a FTr (I know, I made that up :lol ) in the high 50s.

Go on. Take a stab at it.

[aj1987]

So now I'm making up stats? :oldlol:

And stop acting like guys driving to the rim is the only way to get whistles. Explain Harden or Durant's ridiculously high FT totals/rates.

Again, nothing changes the fact that LeBron James gets more FTA at a much higher rate than Jordan did in his career despite the former taking fewer shots and far more 3s per game.
:facepalm

I don't give a shit about KD/Haren. We aren't talking about them. We aren't even talking about "eras" for you to bring them up.

Classic MJ stans. Get owned and deflect. Also, yes. You made up the FTr "stat".

Saying this for the last time. LeBron took MORE shots at the RIM than MJ did during his PRIME/PEAK.

Lets also not act like Stern protected MJ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToN9FpJD4CI) unlike another star at that time. People bitch about Wade averaging 16 FT's a game in a series, but totally forget about MJ routinely averaging between 12-15 FT's per series. Didn't he take 28 and 27 FT's in 2 games in the PLAYOFFS in ONE YEAR? Imagine if LeBron took that many within 5 games. You would literally wet your pants.

Again, before you deflect, MJ during his PRIME/PEAK took 27% of his shots at the rim (from the link you provided). LeBron takes 40%+.

Yeah, MJ deserved them and LeBron is manufactured though.Protected by the refs.

[rmt]

After MJ's first game vs Twin Towers:

In a game against Michael Jordan's championship Chicago Bulls, Tim and David fought the champion team every step of the way, forcing the game into not one but two overtime periods before eventually losing by just four points. Tim matched Bulls' top-notch defender Dennis Rodman rebound for rebound for a total of twenty-two and whenever he wasn't there, David Robinson was. "We had to shoot jump-shots," Jordan said after the game, explaining the challenge he and his teammates had faced. "And believe me, I tried to get to the basket. But with those Twin Towers sitting in the middle, it was tough."

http://books.google.com/books?id=pyKXAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA48&dq=michael+jordan+twin+towers+1998&hl=en&sa=X&ei=xjemU6TpKcSZ8QH3sIEw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=michael%20jordan%20twin%20towers%201998&f=false

[DonDadda59]

Also, yes. You made up the FTr "stat".


Yup. I got it patented, Pat Riley style. Got T-shirts and everything :pimp:

Feel free to use it but it'll cost you $2 per use, standard operating cost :cheers:

F*cking moron.


After MJ's first game vs Twin Towers:

In a game against Michael Jordan's championship Chicago Bulls, Tim and David fought the champion team every step of the way, forcing the game into not one but two overtime periods before eventually losing by just four points. Tim matched Bulls' top-notch defender Dennis Rodman rebound for rebound for a total of twenty-two and whenever he wasn't there, David Robinson was. "We had to shoot jump-shots," Jordan said after the game, explaining the challenge he and his teammates had faced. "And believe me, I tried to get to the basket. But with those Twin Towers sitting in the middle, it was tough."

If he thinks that's tough, let's see him try that against a 38 year old Timmy and Boris Diaw.

[aj1987]

Yup. I got it patented, Pat Riley style. Got T-shirts and everything :pimp:

Feel free to use it but it'll cost you $2 per use, standard operating cost :cheers:


Yeah. Retarded MJ nutmuncher. Deflect all you want, but it won't change the FACTS. Take the L and move on like the bitch you are.


****ing moron.

[DonDadda59]

Yeah. Retarded MJ nutmuncher. Deflect all you want, but it won't change the FACTS. Take the L and move on like the bitch you are.


****ing moron.

That'll do, pig. That'll do :applause:

[aj1987]

That'll do, pig. That'll do :applause:
Move on, kid. Just take the L like you take MJ's D.

[DonDadda59]

Move on, kid. Just take the L like you take MJ's D.

So reverse cowgirl style with a Cleveland steamer finisher? :biggums:






































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[Dro]

Biased stan confirmed? LeBron is clearly superior at attacking the basket than MJ

Only a blantant stan would say otherwise

LeBron owning multiple big men at once: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3EMyXNpIDY
:lol

[veilside23]

only heat bandwagoners are against jordan... still insecure 2/5

[jstern]

In the YouTube comments someone complaining about Tim, because rookie Tim scored only scored 14 point while being guarded by 6'8" Rodman. It's those ignorant comments that freaking teenagers make.

[The_Pharcyde]

What the f*ck are you talking about? :wtf:

In '03 he had a .212 FTr, the lowest of his career. Averaged 4 FTA, the lowest of his career. He was a broken down 40 year old, but still good enough to get 20/6/4 based purely off of skill.

Bron had a .432 FTr this past season.

Someone already linked this earlier, but you must've missed it:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=317950

A short chart featuring 126 game sample of Jordan from '90-'92.

So Jordan took 42.6% of his shots in the paint. From 90-92, Jordan was taking 23 FGA (1.8 3s) and averaged 8 FTA. That's a FTr of .349.

The span that Bron took a similar amount of FG ('06-08) he took 44.6% of his shots in the paint, was taking 22 FGA (4.5 3s) and averaged 10 FTA. That's a FTr of .449.

So no matter what angle you look at it from- Bron gets more FTs, at a higher rate, despite taking less shots, and way more from 3. And this is not even taking into consideration the rule changes (no handchecking/3 sec. violation opening up the paint for more drives)

But tell me more about 40 year old Jordan. Can't wait.

I posted that link, thank you for posting this, should quiet down that guy