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Lebron23
06-18-2014, 01:36 PM
I think he's still capable of averaging 19 to 21 ppg off the bench. Wade is still going to start in the 4th quarter, and play during the crunch time period. Miami really lacks some bench scoring in the NBA finals.

They were outscored by their Spurs bench players.

AboutBuckets
06-18-2014, 01:45 PM
Although that's an enormous if, I think it could help his transition into the end of his career. If you could have any (realistic) player fill his role at the 2, who would you put? Heat could use a Thabo type so Lebron doesn't have to waste his energy chasing around the quick guards that consistently rape Chalmers, although he'd certainly have to take less money than he's gonna get elsewhere

Goldrush25
06-18-2014, 01:48 PM
His ego is way too big for that.

Marlo_Stanfield
06-18-2014, 01:48 PM
i said all season this retard should be sixth man.
he would be perfect in a sixth man role ala Ginobili25-30 minutes per game.
at least that way the Heat can start games with proper spacing and dont have do dig them selves out of a hole nearly every game against decent competition:facepalm :rolleyes:

Lebron23
06-18-2014, 01:49 PM
Although that's an enormous if, I think it could help his transition into the end of his career. If you could have any (realistic) player fill his role at the 2, who would you put? Heat could use a Thabo type so Lebron doesn't have to waste his energy chasing around the quick guards that consistently rape Chalmers, although he'd certainly have to take less money than he's gonna get elsewhere


Trevor Ariza is a free agent this year. I think Miami will also draft an athletic shooting guard in this year's NBA draft.

Marlo_Stanfield
06-18-2014, 01:52 PM
Although that's an enormous if, I think it could help his transition into the end of his career. If you could have any (realistic) player fill his role at the 2, who would you put? Heat could use a Thabo type so Lebron doesn't have to waste his energy chasing around the quick guards that consistently rape Chalmers, although he'd certainly have to take less money than he's gonna get elsewhere
Jeremy Lin
Aron Afflalo
LeBron James
Chris Bosh
Asik/Gortat
6th man Wade
wont happen with that cheap ass nikka Arison tho

Derka
06-18-2014, 01:53 PM
Trevor Ariza is a free agent this year. I think Miami will also draft an athletic shooting guard in this year's NBA draft.
Even if the Big 3 take insane pay cuts, which is also a massive if, the Heat can't afford Ariza AND a point guard AND a shot-blocking center AND a bench of young guys to add depth.

Derka
06-18-2014, 01:55 PM
Jeremy Lin
Aron Afflalo
LeBron James
Chris Bosh
Asik/Gortat
6th man Wade
wont happen with that cheap ass nikka Arison tho

Lin and Asik are both under contract. You're gonna have to trade Bosh for them in all likelihood.

Dresta
06-18-2014, 02:02 PM
i said all season this retard should be sixth man.
he would be perfect in a sixth man role ala Ginobili25-30 minutes per game.
at least that way the Heat can start games with proper spacing and dont have do dig them selves out of a hole nearly every game against decent competition:facepalm :rolleyes:
I don't think anyone with nearly 9,000 idiotic posts on a basketball forum in less than 6 months has any right to call anyone a retard.

navy
06-18-2014, 02:04 PM
Wade will still be better than Bosh next year. Calling it now.

Beastmode88
06-18-2014, 02:06 PM
Jeremy Lin
Aron Afflalo
LeBron James
Chris Bosh
Asik/Gortat
6th man Wade
wont happen with that cheap ass nikka Arison tho

Lmfao marlo's back? Surprised you have the balls to show up. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Dresta
06-18-2014, 02:10 PM
Even if the Big 3 take insane pay cuts, which is also a massive if, the Heat can't afford Ariza AND a point guard AND a shot-blocking center AND a bench of young guys to add depth.
Sign Ariza and a big man like Dalembert, draft Napier, keep Cole (usually productive in playoffs, and he did have that murder of a friend to deal with in the finals so he gets a pass from me), keep Beasley as a bench scorer and utilise him more. That already is a much better team.

Cole/Wade/Napier
Bron/Wade/Allen
Ariza/Bron
Bosh/Bron
Dalembert/Bosh/Anderson

If Wade is gonna miss games he can just be a primary playmaker and scorer off the bench a la Ginobili, playing 25mpg or so (Wade has still been playing quite high minutes, and actually played more than Ginobili this year despite missing 28 games), and the addition of Dalembert would allow Miami to play a less energy consuming type of defense (hard to keep up that intensity for 4 straight seasons really, and that is largely why their defense sucked this year; even Lebron didn't have the energy to execute it properly).

Dengness9
06-18-2014, 02:12 PM
Jeremy Lin
Aron Afflalo
LeBron James
Chris Bosh
Asik/Gortat
6th man Wade
wont happen with that cheap ass nikka Arison tho


:facepalm

wally_world
06-18-2014, 02:20 PM
A "Top 10" player does not simply come off the bench :oldlol:

BigBoss
06-18-2014, 02:27 PM
He won't take a paycut AND a reduced role if some team out there will offer him the max. This is his LAST contract to make real money.

Trollsmasher
06-18-2014, 02:33 PM
A "Top 10" player does not simply come off the bench :oldlol:
He is not a TOP 10 player

He's a net negative, aging former star with no knees

Kiddlovesnets
06-18-2014, 02:35 PM
Problem with Wade is that he cant shoot, Manu's three pointers and jumpers helped the Spurs at times but you cant expect Wade to do anything more than drives. I feel bad for Lebron having to stick with washed up trash like Wade, perhaps its better he leaves Miami.

wally_world
06-18-2014, 03:22 PM
He is not a TOP 10 player

He's a net negative, aging former star with no knees

and you are not very good with conveying sarcasm

Dresta
06-18-2014, 03:37 PM
He is not a TOP 10 player

He's a net negative, aging former star with no knees
Yet Miami wouldn't have got by Indiana without him, a series in which he was a huge net positive. Since when does a single series define a player's value exactly?

I don't know why i'm bothering to ask you this actually considering you are a despicable Lebron stan.

Dresta
06-18-2014, 03:39 PM
Problem with Wade is that he cant shoot, Manu's three pointers and jumpers helped the Spurs at times but you cant expect Wade to do anything more than drives. I feel bad for Lebron having to stick with washed up trash like Wade, perhaps its better he leaves Miami.
It's Manu's driving and playmaking that help the Spurs most you utter imbecile. The Spurs have a plethora of great young 3-point shooter, they don't need another 36-year old one. His role is being secondary playmaker to Parker (and he often takes over this duty down the stretch), not a 3 point specialist.

navy
06-18-2014, 03:42 PM
Yet Miami wouldn't have got by Indiana without him, a series in which he was a huge net positive. Since when does a single series define a player's value exactly?

I don't know why i'm bothering to ask you this actually considering you are a despicable Lebron stan.
Lebron had the worst plus minus vs the Spurs by a good bit...

Dresta
06-18-2014, 03:51 PM
Lebron had the worst plus minus vs the Spurs by a good bit...
And Wade had the best +/- of all the starters in the last 3 games despite not playing well at all. Goes to show how useless the stat can be. Yet when Wade came through in the last finals Bron stans all pointed to his +/- to how how useless he was, well, in that case Wade>Bron in the last 3 games of this year's series :lol .

Constant double standard from Bron stans :facepalm

Rose'sACL
06-18-2014, 04:01 PM
Lebron had the worst plus minus vs the Spurs by a good bit...
Bosh had the worst +- followed by wade and then lebron.

rmt
06-18-2014, 04:02 PM
How do MIA fans expect to sign Ariza when he makes 7.7 mil? He's only 28 and has won already. Young people don't play for cheap like veterans.

Manu can play limited minutes because Spurs have the depth to spell him when he inevitably gets injured. Spurs rash of injuries this past year actually helped them in the long run as it forced Pop to play the bench and mix and match different combinations.

Trollsmasher
06-18-2014, 04:04 PM
Yet Miami wouldn't have got by Indiana without him, a series in which he was a huge net positive. Since when does a single series define a player's value exactly?

I don't know why i'm bothering to ask you this actually considering you are a despicable Lebron stan.
13-14:
RS: -1.8
PS: -7.7

12-13:
PS: - 14.6

tl;dr for a Wade stan living in a denial - Wade is a cancer

let it go, he is done

JuicyJay78
06-18-2014, 04:45 PM
Wade can't average 19-22 as a starter anymore, what makes you think that he'll be able to do it off the bench? His years of playing the game like a piece of shit human being and throwing himself to the ground and the karma of just generally being a bad person have worn him to the ground.

He's done.

Lebron23
06-18-2014, 04:52 PM
Wade can't average 19-22 as a starter anymore, what makes you think that he'll be able to do it off the bench? His years of playing the game like a piece of shit human being and throwing himself to the ground and the karma of just generally being a bad person have worn him to the ground.

He's done.

I dislike dirty players more than floppers. Bird was also a bad father. He didn't even acknowledge one of his illegitimate daughter who idolized him when she was younger.


Wade divorced his wife. And he is raising his two kids. One of them is a 10 yrs.old future NBA player Zaire Wade.

JuicyJay78
06-18-2014, 04:57 PM
I dislike dirty players more than floppers. Bird was also a bad father. He didn't even acknowledge one of his illegitimate daughter who idolized him when she was younger.


Wade divorced his wife. And he is raising his two kids. One of them is a 10 yrs.old future NBA player Zaire Wade.

Well D-Wade is the worst of both worlds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJmyMfpbsMY

oarabbus
06-18-2014, 07:20 PM
A "Top 10" player does not simply come off the bench :oldlol:

Nor does he put up the finals series Wade did.

Real14
06-18-2014, 07:22 PM
Problem with Wade is that he cant shoot, Manu's three pointers and jumpers helped the Spurs at times but you cant expect Wade to do anything more than drives. I feel bad for Lebron having to stick with washed up trash like Wade, perhaps its better he leaves Miami.
:coleman:

Dresta
06-18-2014, 07:45 PM
13-14:
RS: -1.8
PS: -7.7

12-13:
PS: - 14.6

tl;dr for a Wade stan living in a denial - Wade is a cancer

let it go, he is done
:roll:

What was Bron's +/- those last 3 games when he was apparently the only guy playing respectable basketball? Oh yeah, among the lowest of all the starters, and much worse than Wade's. Using +/- as a means of promoting/disparaging a player on its lonesome is really a terrible way of evaluating basketball performance, especially when using aggregations. There are myriad factors at play here that are not picked up by such an arbitrary means of evaluation, but obviously, considering you are a mentally handicapped loser who worships other human beings (or perhaps: human being, singular) for putting a ball through a hoop, you would be incapable of understanding or comprehending this.

I bet you are a cancer to your family, who have not the faintest clue to do with their weirdo relative who sits in his room all day fapping over Lebron James posters and videos and cursing out every other member of the Miami Heat team for not helping him enough (when you'd give him all the credit for winning anyway).

Bron has 0 rings without his mental-crutch and on-court psychiatrist D-Wade, and he joined him in Miami because he knew he wasn't winning shit on his own - bet that makes you feel salty, bet that's why you hate D-Wade so much :roll:

longtime lurker
06-18-2014, 07:51 PM
The real question is which team will OP bandwagon next year when Lebron leaves Miami?

jzek
06-18-2014, 08:06 PM
13 PPG
3 RPG
2 APG

...in the Finals! This is the guy that was supposed to be LeBron's Pippen! :oldlol: Mo Williams had a better Finals averages than that...

Springsteen
06-18-2014, 08:09 PM
I think if a team wants to offer Wade the max, he shouldn't hesitate to bite. He's helped give Miami 3 rings, 1 of which he was the centerpiece. He's got nothing left to prove, might as well start getting dem' checks.

Same for Bosh, really.

iznogood
06-18-2014, 08:10 PM
It's Manu's driving and playmaking that help the Spurs most you utter imbecile. The Spurs have a plethora of great young 3-point shooter, they don't need another 36-year old one. His role is being secondary playmaker to Parker (and he often takes over this duty down the stretch), not a 3 point specialist.
You can't drive if you can't shoot, the defense is going to give you the shot and take away the drive all day. That's why Ginobili still can drive to the hoop, cause he will take a shot and make it if he's given too much space.

Black and White
06-18-2014, 08:12 PM
Trevor Ariza is a free agent this year. I think Miami will also draft an athletic shooting guard in this year's NBA draft.

Why do you care? Its not like you will still support the Heat if LeBron leaves.

Dresta
06-19-2014, 07:38 AM
13 PPG
3 RPG
2 APG

...in the Finals! This is the guy that was supposed to be LeBron's Pippen! :oldlol: Mo Williams had a better Finals averages than that...
Mo Williams has never played in the finals and basically put up worse numbers than that every time he played in the playoffs in Cleveland. Wade also put up 15/4/3/2 in the finals. Is everything you post just made up like this?

Anyway, since you bring up the Pippen comparison i'll compare year-by-year at their respective ages:

Pippen 1995 playoff run: 18/8/6/1/1 on 44 FG%, 37% from 3, 68FT% on the way to getting murked by Shaq. (PER 18.9)
1996 championship run: 17/9/6/3/1 on 36 FG%, 29% from 3, 64FT% (PER 19.4)
1997 championship run: 19/7/4/1/1 on 42 FG% 34% from 3, 76 FT% (PER 18.1)
1998 championship run: 17/7/5/2/2 on 41 FG% 23% from 4 68FT% (PER 19.5)

Wade 2010-11 Finals run: 25/7/4/2/1.3 blocks (more than Pippen ever had over these years) on 49FG%, (PER 26.3)
2011-12 championship run: 23/5/4/2/1.3 (PER 22.2)
2012-13 championship run: 16/5/5/2/1 on 46FG% 75FT% (PER 18.7)
2013-14 finals run: 18/4/4/2 on 50FG% 38% from 3, 77FT% (PER 18.5)


So much worse than that 2nd Pippen 3-peat at exactly the same ages :bowdown:

Dresta
06-19-2014, 08:30 AM
:coleman:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/watch-out-lebron-and-wade-s-kids-got-next-112113

As long as they don't grow up under 6 foot he fore sure has a decent chance considering the training equipment and help he has at his disposal.

dc_chilling
06-19-2014, 08:56 AM
Scoop up Jimmer. Pull a SA Spurs move and turn him into a threat coming off the bench.

After watching Chalmers and Lewis jack up garbage from the perimeter, why not bring in a prolific shooter off the bench?

Yea he can't play defense worth shit, but then again, neither can Chalmers or Lewis.

Trollsmasher
06-19-2014, 06:54 PM
:roll:

What was Bron's +/- those last 3 games when he was apparently the only guy playing respectable basketball? Oh yeah, among the lowest of all the starters, and much worse than Wade's. Using +/- as a means of promoting/disparaging a player on its lonesome is really a terrible way of evaluating basketball performance, especially when using aggregations. There are myriad factors at play here that are not picked up by such an arbitrary means of evaluation, but obviously, considering you are a mentally handicapped loser who worships other human beings (or perhaps: human being, singular) for putting a ball through a hoop, you would be incapable of understanding or comprehending this.

I bet you are a cancer to your family, who have not the faintest clue to do with their weirdo relative who sits in his room all day fapping over Lebron James posters and videos and cursing out every other member of the Miami Heat team for not helping him enough (when you'd give him all the credit for winning anyway).

Bron has 0 rings without his mental-crutch and on-court psychiatrist D-Wade, and he joined him in Miami because he knew he wasn't winning shit on his own - bet that makes you feel salty, bet that's why you hate D-Wade so much :roll:
http://www.lelbron.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/LelBron-Relaxy-Sonny-No-Need-To-Be-Mad.png

Just accept that Wade is done and has been detriment to his team's success over the past two seasons and move on. You are basically a necrophile with your worshipping of a corpse of Dwyane Wade. Unhealthy