For all this talk of "It's not LeBrons fault," how many good quarters...

[russwest0]

did he actually have this series? Like 2 or 3? And that's even including garbage time.

[sd3035]

zero if we're just counting the fourth

[VIntageNOvel]

dude they guy hes been guarding and guarding him won FMVP,
thats tell you the whole story

[russwest0]

dude they guy hes been guarding and guarding him won FMVP,
thats tell you the whole story

lol I know, but the Heat and LeBron got away with playing that lazy of defense in the first 3 rounds :oldlol:

[Soundwave]

I count four, with none of them being in the fourth quarter.

[russwest0]

I count four, with none of them being in the fourth quarter.

Same.

[Genaro]

He had some monsters quarters where he was hitting everything but the rest of the time he was either too passive or played bad and didn't do nothing to stop the blowouts.

[JT123]

Bron played good in every quarter. Scored the ball at an efficient rate and distributed when the defense collapsed on him. Not Bron's fault Wade can't make layups and Chalmers can't hit open 3's. Spurs focus all attention on Bron cause they know his teammates are trash and don't need to be guarded.

[Rodmantheman]

I bet 80% of OP threads made on this site is about lebron so sad.

[JT123]

I bet 80% of OP threads made on this site is about lebron so sad.
Him and everyone else on here. Do you really expect a Durant stan to make a thread about KD? :roll: :roll: :roll:
Even Durant's biggest stans find him too boring to talk about.

[BlackVVaves]

Someone referenced this in the Game thread.

If you look at it, Bron had one monster quarter for nearly every game, and for the other 3 quarters was either relatively quiet or sheepish. He was very passive in the third quarter last night; the game was still in the balance, and Bron didn't even look to attack with Manu or Parker on him with switches on defense.

KD's superb numbers in the 2012 Finals were dubbed as empty stats. I believe the same may apply here. Best player on the team by far, inconsistent defense from Game 3-5, high turnover rate, super efficient, but in particular moments could have imposed his will more.

[lilteapot]

Game 1: First 3
Game 2: all 4
Game 3: 1st quarter
Game 4: 3rd quarter
Game 5: 1st quarter

Lebron scored 19 in the 3rd quarter of game 4 and the spurs still outscored them by 4 in that quarter. Lebron had an amazing 1st quarter game 5 and they only lead by 7 points. So who's to say Lebron would play well the rest of the game and the Spurs still wouldn't be close or even have the lead?

Lebron has the tendency to have a big first quarter and then fizzle out the rest of them. Hopefully he learns how to manage his play.

[JT123]

Someone referenced this in the Game thread.

If you look at it, Bron had one monster quarter for nearly every game, and for the other 3 quarters was either relatively quiet or sheepish. He was very passive in the third quarter last night; the game was still in the balance, and Bron didn't even look to attack with Manu or Parker on him with switches on defense.

KD's superb numbers in the 2012 Finals were dubbed as empty stats. I believe the same may apply here. Best player on the team by far, inconsistent defense from Game 3-5, high turnover rate, super efficient, but in particular moments could have imposed his will more.
Difference is Durant's teammates showed up and kept the games close, Bron's teammates didn't. Durant was the only reason OKC lost in 2012, while the Heat were gonna lose no matter how many points Lebron scored.

[BlackVVaves]

Difference is Durant's teammates showed up and kept the games close, Bron's teammates didn't. Durant was the only reason OKC lost in 2012, while the Heat were gonna lose no matter how many points Lebron scored.

This is a prime example why LeBron stans will get murdered here and across the social media sphere for the next several months. Because your efforts are rarely founded in facts when it comes to objective analysis.

Only a Bron stan would say something as idiotic as "Durant was the only reason OKC lost in 2012," when clearly Harden's shit offense and even worse defense cost OKC that Finals :oldlol:

[JT123]

This is a prime example why LeBron stans will get murdered here and across the social media sphere for the next several months. Because your efforts are rarely founded in facts when it comes to objective analysis.

Only a Bron stan would say something as idiotic as "Durant was the only reason OKC lost in 2012," when clearly Harden's shit offense and even worse defense cost OKC that Finals :oldlol:
Even with Harden playing horribly games 1-4 were all winnable and up for grabs. Durant's other teammates put him in a position to close the deal, and he failed them. You can make excuses for KD all day, but you lose all credibility when you try and compare Lebron's Finals this year to Durant's Finals 2 years ago. Not even close to the same situation. :lol

[BlackVVaves]

Even with Harden playing horribly games 1-4 were all winnable and up for grabs. Durant's other teammates put him in a position to close the deal, and he failed them. You can make excuses for KD all day, but you lose all credibility when you try and compare Lebron's Finals this year to Durant's Finals 2 years ago. Not even close to the same situation. :lol

If Harden shows up, that series goes 6 or 7.

The specifics may vary, but the underlying notion is that both players scored at a high rate, on exceptional efficiency, and yet failed overall at imposing their will on the game at critical moments in their losses. Maybe Bron just has low stamina, but it appears after he went off for a quarter, it's kind of flat line everywhere else.

Similar to his slip in production proceeding his 60 point game earlier this season.

Anyway, it's neither here nor there. The Heat didn't lose because of Bron, and outside of his high turnover rate and defensive lapses he was a net positive to the team in every facet of the game.

He plays on a stacked team. His talented teammates just didn't produce. I think a good part of that is because the Spurs were incredible in their defensive execution.

[CelticBaller]

Difference is Durant's teammates showed up and kept the games close, Bron's teammates didn't. Durant was the only reason OKC lost in 2012, while the Heat were gonna lose no matter how many points Lebron scored.
:facepalm

[russwest0]

Holy hell, this JT123 poster is one of the most deluded LeBron stans I've ever seen

[edrick]

Imagine if Superstars Wade and Bosh could have scored anywhere near their averages in the last 3 games.

[sportjames23]

Holy hell, this JT123 poster is one of the most deluded LeBron stans I've ever seen

edrick is catching up to him. :oldlol:

[LakersFan626]

Someone referenced this in the Game thread.

If you look at it, Bron had one monster quarter for nearly every game, and for the other 3 quarters was either relatively quiet or sheepish. He was very passive in the third quarter last night; the game was still in the balance, and Bron didn't even look to attack with Manu or Parker on him with switches on defense.

KD's superb numbers in the 2012 Finals were dubbed as empty stats. I believe the same may apply here. Best player on the team by far, inconsistent defense from Game 3-5, high turnover rate, super efficient, but in particular moments could have imposed his will more.

This.

LeBron had a solid series like Durant, but had no impact, because of lackluster defense and none of his teammates showing up like Durant in 2012 (Westbrook 2012 was better than Wade 2014 and Bosh 2014 was better than Harden 2012, and Ibaka was still mainly a dunker and defender that year). LeBron's game 2 was similar to Durant's game 1 as well (Miami was winning until the 4th in 2012, Spurs were winning until the 4th in 2014).

[jlip]

This is a prime example why LeBron stans will get murdered here and across the social media sphere for the next several months. Because your efforts are rarely founded in facts when it comes to objective analysis.

Only a Bron stan would say something as idiotic as "Durant was the only reason OKC lost in 2012," when clearly Harden's shit offense and even worse defense cost OKC that Finals :oldlol:

Yeah...Because Lebron "haters" are the paragon of objectivity whose analyses are always based solely on incontrovertible empirical data. :facepalm

[DMV2]

Yeah, LeBron's great offense went in spurts. Great one quarter, defers the next.

But to be fair, the entire Heat team never showed up at all. Showed no heart, never going above and beyond, didn't work hard for the loose balls.