Is there any player that lost more Finals than won?

[9erempiree]

Any greats in the top 10?

[Mr.Kite]

Wilt probably

Other than that...No.

[D-Rose]

The Logo. He's pretty close to Top 10.

[Young X]

Jerry West

[NumberSix]

You have to get to the finals to lose them. Every year you don't win the chip, losing the finals is the most winning possible.

Finals loss= best possible non chip season.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Wilt

2/6

Strive for greatness

[GODbe]

None that are in my top 10.

[9erempiree]

None that are in my top 10.

Same here. You don't get to be on the elite list if you have lost more than you have won.

Also, since people like to talk about stats and 50%, my list of players have to win over 50% of their finals appearances.

[STATUTORY]

You have to get to the finals to lose them. Every year you don't win the chip, losing the finals is the most winning possible.

Finals loss= best possible non chip season.
not when there's an imbalance in the strength of conferences like there is now

Heat would not have made it out of the west this year, not even to the WCF

[Kvnzhangyay]

Jerry West

Jerry west is not top 10 though... :facepalm

[Eye Test]

You have to get to the finals to lose them. Every year you don't win the chip, losing the finals is the most winning possible.

Finals loss= best possible non chip season.

finals loss in nowadays east is worth little to nuttin'

[Fudge]

Except Bron isn't in the Top 10. Not right now, anyways.

[SouBeachTalents]

Same here. You don't get to be on the elite list if you have lost more than you have won.

Also, since people like to talk about stats and 50%, my list of players have to win over 50% of their finals appearances.

So by your logic you're better of losing in the first round or missing the playoffs altogether than winning your conference and making the Finals. Got it

[Roundball_Rock]

So by your logic you're better of losing in the first round or missing the playoffs altogether than winning your conference and making the Finals. Got it

Exactly. It is like arguing a racer who placed 6th did better than the guy who was 2nd. Utter absurdity.

This largely is agenda driven because LeBron managed to take inferior teams to the Finals in 2007 and 2014 and they got exposed at that point. Other legends were routinely losing in the first round, something LeBron has never done.

[Kvnzhangyay]

Exactly. It is like arguing a racer who placed 6th did better than the guy who was 2nd. Utter absurdity.

This largely is agenda driven because LeBron managed to take inferior teams to the Finals in 2007 and 2014 and they got exposed at that point. Other legends were routinely losing in the first round, something LeBron has never done.

Your not supposed to say probron stuff here :coleman:

[glidedrxlr22]

Jerry West probably has had the most heartbreaks in finals history:

1 and 8......rough

1962 NBA Finals - Lost to the Boston Celtics
1963 NBA Finals - Lost to the Boston Celtics
1965 NBA Finals - Lost to the Boston Celtics
1966 NBA Finals - Lost to the Boston Celtics
1968 NBA Finals - Lost to the Boston Celtics
1969 NBA Finals - Lost to the Boston Celtics
1970 NBA Finals - Lost to the New York Knickerbockers
1972 NBA Finals - Defeated the New York Knickerbockers
1973 NBA Finals - Lost to the New York Knickerbockers

[Budadiiii]

The Heat would lose to every single Western Conference team except the Blazers, Rockets, and Warriors.

Getting to the finals in the East is not some sort of an accomplishment when you have by far the most talent on one team than any other team in the Least combined.

They're getting blown out in every loss and all of a sudden theres a silver lining because you made the finals, really? I mean, really?

This is the most embarrassing finals since 2007. Massive failure for the Heat and especially LeBron. He will never be top 10.

[annbafan]

Any greats in the top 10?

Lebron James?

but he's currently 2/4, so there's none besides Wilt.

[fpliii]

Just Wilt I believe.

[tpols]

You have to get to the finals to lose them. Every year you don't win the chip, losing the finals is the most winning possible.

Finals loss= best possible non chip season.

Not when you choke over and over..

[NumberSix]

Not when you choke over and over..
Who choked? SAS simply outplayed them.

[PickernRoller]

As mentioned before: None that are in the Top 10 except Wilt.

[r15mohd]

Who choked? SAS simply outplayed them.


losing = choking in their brains...if Lebron loses this, he also beats Kobe in more "chokes" in the finals, not something you would wanna beat him in tho :rolleyes:

Kobe: 2004 & 2008
Lebron: 2007 & 2011, 2014? :confusedshrug:

[riseagainst]

losing = choking in their brains...if Lebron loses this, he also beats Kobe in more "chokes" in the finals, not something you would wanna beat him in tho :rolleyes:

Kobe: 2004 & 2008
Lebron: 2007 & 2011, 2014? :confusedshrug:

lebron with 3 chokes out of 5 finals, LeEfficient.

:bowdown:

[Hey Yo]

Not when you choke over and over..
How do you choke when your team was the underdog before the series started?

[Droid101]

lebron with 3 chokes out of 5 finals, LeEfficient.

:bowdown:
But not LeDominant. :D

[Rubio2Gasol]

You have to get to the finals to lose them. Every year you don't win the chip, losing the finals is the most winning possible.

Finals loss= best possible non chip season.

In the East?

http://standingosports.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/deandre-jordan-dunk-face.jpg

[PickernRoller]

losing = choking in their brains...if Lebron loses this, he also beats Kobe in more "chokes" in the finals, not something you would wanna beat him in tho :rolleyes:

Kobe: 2004 & 2008
Lebron: 2007 & 2011, 2014? :confusedshrug:

2008? You mean Gasol getting abused by KG? I know you're another LeStan alt.....but cmon gotta be more creative.

[ralph_i_el]

niner "Watching basketball for 27 years" great question

[D-Rose]

2008? You mean Gasol getting abused by KG? I know you're another LeStan alt.....but cmon gotta be more creative.
Kobe was below average that year as well in the Finals.

[Inferno]

Who choked? SAS simply outplayed them.

Not a choke, but Bron took 5 shots in the 1st half of Game 4. By the time he dropped 20 in the 3rd or something, game was out of reach.

[tpols]

Who choked? SAS simply outplayed them.

The mavs outplayed them in 2011 too.. Doesn't mean a giant choke didn't occur. Choking actually makes it easier for the other team to out play you..

[Prometheus]

The Heat would lose to every single Western Conference team except the Blazers, Rockets, and Warriors.


http://cosbysweaters.nextimpulsemedia.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/facepalm.gif

[SouBeachTalents]

The mavs outplayed them in 2011 too.. Doesn't mean a giant choke didn't occur. Choking actually makes it easier for the other team to out play you..

I'd disagree with you on that. I'm not gonna try to take anything away from the Mavs, they obviously played well enough to win, but the Heat were clearly the superior team in that series. They should have easily swept the first 4 games, and if LeBron scores more than 8 points in Game 4 they easily win the series. That to me was an example of a team losing a series more so than a team winning it

[lilteapot]

Charles Barkley

[AnaheimLakers24]

loser wilt in people's top ten lol

[AnaheimLakers24]

Kobe was below average that year as well in the Finals.
dirk chokewitzki couldnt win untill bran choked for him. no one even says mavs won tgat series. everyone says cheat lost

lollolololo

[9erempiree]

To be honest Bron is on pace to lose more than he has won.