Breaking: Derek Fisher accepts Knicks Head Coach position

[D-Rose]

per Howard Beck


@HowardBeck 34s
Derek Fisher has decided to accept the Knicks' head coaching position, per source.

[Real14]

:applause: :cheers:

[fpliii]

Phil needs to be at all their practices and on or near the bench for home games the first year.

Happy for Fisher.

[BallsOut]

per Howard Beck

:biggums:

[stalkerforlife]

Congratulations, Knicks. Great hire. He truly has a great basketball mind.

Phil Jackson doing work.

[NumberSix]

This is a typical Knicks move. Will certainly end in disaster.

[Fudge]

:roll:

Da Knicks.

[KG215]

:banana: :banana: :banana:

No more playoff games of 20 minutes of Fisher while more talented players like Jeremy Lamb sit on the bench!! Loved his leadership and locker room presence but it was getting beyond frustrating seeing him in a three PG lineup and guarding Boris Diaw and/or Tim Duncan in the post because of Brooks' brilliant coaching decision to switch all screens with the three PG lineup.

[BallsOut]

:roll:

Da Knicks.

The best thing to come out of this is OKC fans celebrating Fisher's departure everywhere

*insert white boy dancing gif*

[chocolatethunder]

This is a typical Knicks move. Will certainly end in disaster.
I agree. This is going to be comical.

[Smook A.]

I wish him luck as a coach. Lets he how he does with that squad.

[D-Rose]

@FisolaNYDN 1m
According to @HowardBeck Fisher and Phil Jackson will likely hire Kurt Rambis & Bill Cartwright. Rick Fox, Luke Walton also in mix

Phil is bringing the old gang(s) back :applause:

[BallsOut]

:banana: :banana: :banana:

No more playoff games of 20 minutes of Fisher while more talented players like Jeremy Lamb sit on the bench!! Loved his leadership and locker room presence but it was getting beyond frustrating seeing him in a three PG lineup and guarding Boris Diaw and/or Tim Duncan in the post because of Brooks' brilliant coaching decision to switch all screens with the three PG lineup.

Now it will be Westbrook, Jackson and Lamb lineup. Lamb still won't be able to handle Boris Diaw or Tim Duncan in the post. In fact, I'd argue Fisher had a better chance against those two than Lamb. :oldlol:

The problem is the coach, not Fisher.

[Levity]

good luck, big fish.

OKC fans, in all honestly, did you guys notice any significant improvements to your team chemistry or play when fisher signed with you guys? what kind of veteran impact did he have with your players?

[KG215]

Now it will be Westbrook, Jackson and Lamb lineup. Lamb still won't be able to handle Boris Diaw or Tim Duncan in the post. In fact, I'd argue Fisher had a better chance against those two than Lamb. :oldlol:

The problem is the coach, not Fisher.
Could've used Perry Jones, instead. At least Lamb's offensive potential/upside is much higher than what we got from Fisher. He could be the consistent 3P threat we were missing.

[D-Rose]

getting paid.


@WojYahooNBA 50s
Derek Fisher is finalizing an agreement on a 5-year, $25 million deal to become the Knicks coach, league sources tell Yahoo.
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More than Scottie Brooks.

[Real14]

Knicks haters sure having my knicks living rent free in their headz:roll: They getting jealous cuz Derek fisher (5 rings) iz our coach now, I mean damn it hasn't even been 2 hourz yet:lol

[MVBallin2K]

So Knicks are essentially taking the gamble the Lakers should have taken in just giving Phil the reigns and bringing back past talent to attempt to bring veteran presence to a new era.

Whether this works or not remains to be seen but this is a very interesting scenario. As long as Phil is mentoring Fisher and guiding him in coaching, then it more than likely won't be as bad as it seems on the surface but if Phil isn't that active, it could be a disaster.

[hawksdogsbraves]

Well Kidd did such a good job, the Knicks figured they might as well hire some random old PG with no coaching experience. The question now is, which one gets fired first?

[Beastmode88]

getting paid.

lmfao first time coach already gets 5 mil/year. how does this even fix the knicks? where's the talent.. :facepalm

[Real14]

Well Kidd did such a good job, the Knicks figured they might as well hire some random old PG with no coaching experience. The question now is, which one gets fired first?
Kidd.

[Real14]

lmfao first time coach already gets 5 mil/year. how does this even fix the knicks? where's the talent.. :facepalm
get tha hell outta NYC niguh:coleman:

[Genaro]

The problem is the coach, not Fisher.
This.
I have no clue why he keeps telling OKC to change everything. It clearly doesn't work and WB is very good fighting screens. No need for that crap.

[JellyBean]

Good for D-Fish. But I am disappointed. Pat Ewing has been paying his dues for years and for the Knicks did not even call him about the job. :facepalm

[HomieWeMajor]

Damn what a career D-Fish
Hopefully he gets his rightful 1st ballot HOF soon

[smoovegittar]

Thrilled! This was the cat I was hoping for all along. Haters can go suck on a turnip.

[hawksdogsbraves]

Good for D-Fish. But I am disappointed. Pat Ewing has been paying his dues for years and for the Knicks did not even call him about the job. :facepalm

Don't you think there might be something to the fact that Pat Ewing shows interest in EVERY coaching job that opens up and EVERY GM basically ignores him?

He obviously has a reputation as a shitty coach.

[Real14]

Good for D-Fish. But I am disappointed. Pat Ewing has been paying his dues for years and for the Knicks did not even call him about the job. :facepalm
I don't get this part either man:facepalm

[D-Rose]

lmfao first time coach already gets 5 mil/year. how does this even fix the knicks? where's the talent.. :facepalm

‏@highkin 2m
The 5 highest paid coaches in the NBA: Doc Rivers ($7m), Stan Van Gundy ($7m), Gregg Popovich ($6m), Steve Kerr ($5m), Derek Fisher ($5m)

Ewing does deserve some NY love, but this is all Phil's call. He was brought in to put his system in place and his own guys.

[TheReal Kendall]

It's good Fish got the job but at the same time I feel like this is gonna be a trend now. I would rather see older guys that have been assistants to coaches get a chance to prove themselves like Patrick Ewing, Tyrone Lue and some other guys instead of giving guys like Kidd and Fisher chances right out the gate with no experience.

I wish the workforce would do this.

[jzek]

Melo needs to get out there.

[hawksdogsbraves]

It's good Fish got the job but at the same time I feel like this is gonna be a trend now. I would rather see older guys that have been assistants to coaches get a chance to prove themselves like Patrick Ewing, Tyrone Lue and some other guys instead of giving guys like Kidd and Fisher chances right out the gate with no experience.

I wish the workforce would do this.

Well, the good news is that the Knicks will be so shitty for the next couple of years that Fisher will have no pressure and plenty of time to learn on the fly :oldlol:

[Human Error]

That is some top dollar for a rookie head coach with zero assistant experiences. I have no idea what the Knicks are thinking.

[Real14]

Well, the good news is that the Knicks will be so shitty for the next couple of years that Fisher will have no pressure and plenty of time to learn on the fly :oldlol:
stay hating especially when your franchise aint gonna do shit for a while:lol

[aboss4real24]

Nyk making great moves

we outchea winning


i expect championship if this squad is healthy

[D-Rose]

Fisher will be coaching former teammate Lamar Odom :lol

[Real14]

Melo needs to get out there.
You need to get outta here:coleman:

[imdaman99]

I wanted Fish a lot more than Kerr... but I'm not sure I agree about the same contract. Ah well, it's not my money :pimp:

[D-Rose]

That is some top dollar for a rookie head coach with zero assistant experiences. I have no idea what the Knicks are thinking.
Warriors did exact same thing with Kerr. In this case, it's all about the system.

[Real14]

Nyk making great moves

we outchea winning


i expect championship if this squad is healthy
That's why everybody scared:applause:

[Human Error]

Warriors did exact same thing with Kerr. In this case, it's all about the system.
Damn, we will have to see how that pans out next season.

[TheReal Kendall]

Warriors did exact same thing with Kerr. In this case, it's all about the system.
Steve Kerr was the GM for the Suns back in the day. So he's not necessarily green around the ears.



I really hope Melo leaves NY for the Bulls.

[D-Rose]

Damn, we will have to see how that pans out next season.
Expectation in terms of roster should be much lower for Fish than for Kerr. I'd expect Fish to be allowed to have the first season to get his learning curve in. He's obviously mastered the system he's about to coach. Will be surrounded with assistant from his career/Phil's past. I think Fish has the personality...good leader and I think will manage egos well.

[smoovegittar]

I wanted Fish a lot more than Kerr... but I'm not sure I agree about the same contract. Ah well, it's not my money :pimp:
Well worth it. I saw NO ONE out there I would rather have picked. 5 years is a good number for this kid...it's gonna be a least 2 for a decent squad. Now we get to see glimmers of light from the Zen Master's mind.

[D-Rose]

Also, who cares about the money!? It's not like it's a part of the cap situation :lol

[smoovegittar]

Haters are gonna hafta go beat off in the closet. This team is on it's way, bitches. :D

[Real14]

Haters are gonna hafta go beat off in the closet. This team is on it's way, bitches. :D
you aint lying:cheers:

[Milbuck]

lol melo

[KyleKong]

Derek Fisher ain't helping fat man Melo win anything more then a playoff series.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/917396/melo.gif

[Rubio2Gasol]

Championship Incoming

[Jameerthefear]

Another screwup by the Knicks.

[Sarcastic]

5 million for a rookie coach? Phil must've really wanted him. Seems as if the whole Kerr thing was a smokescreen, considering he wouldn't go as high salary wise with him.

[smoovegittar]

5 million for a rookie coach? Phil must've really wanted him. Seems as if the whole Kerr thing was a smokescreen, considering he wouldn't go as high salary wise with him.
Yep.:pimp:

[bigkingsfan]

PG with no PG skills, luckiest mofo ever.

[D-Rose]

5 million for a rookie coach? Phil must've really wanted him. Seems as if the whole Kerr thing was a smokescreen, considering he wouldn't go as high salary wise with him.
They wouldn't give Kerr 5 years, only wanted 4 I believe. Which obviously points at Dolan being involved. Phil would've given same deal to Kerr.

[mistergreens]

How can Kerr and Fisher get $5MM/per yet Spoelstra makes $3MM? If I am Spo, I demand a raise to $8MM immediately or I walk out on the Finals.

[smoovegittar]

Derek Fisher ain't helping fat man Melo win anything more then a playoff series.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/917396/melo.gif
Still angry about Lin?

[Dagouch]

I really wonder what Direction the Knicks will take.

Iman is rumored to be on the trading block ironically with OKC for two picks correct?

And of course if Melo Stays or goes.

If Melo goes Fisher's job is easy for next yeart till 2015 for the cap relief and rebuild espcially if Iman is gone.

Now if Melo resigns it'll be interesting. East still sucks but Washington and Toronto are on the rise and I'm not sure how I feel about the Cavs next season. Knicks will be Healthy but are we are 4-6 seed team?

A lot of unknowns.

[Sarcastic]

Steve Kerr was the GM for the Suns back in the day. So he's not necessarily green around the ears.



I really hope Melo leaves NY for the Bulls.

He really wasn't that good as GM. Not sure how that benefits him at all. And being a GM is totally different from being a coach.

[KyleKong]

Still angry about Lin?

Why the **** would a Clippers fan be angry about Lin?

[smoovegittar]

lol melo
Bambi with the deer in the headlights look.


Larry Drew LOL.

[smoovegittar]

Why the **** would a Clippers fan be angry about Lin?
Just a hunch, Gorilla...

[Real14]

lol melo
lol..........who's your star again?:oldlol:

[Beastmode88]

get tha hell outta NYC niguh:coleman:

bro i know dolan has money but damn. pull a nets and get some youth and talent. we need more than just a head coach. we need a point guard, and a healthy center.

[Real14]

I really wonder what Direction the Knicks will take.

Iman is rumored to be on the trading block ironically with OKC for two picks correct?

And of course if Melo Stays or goes.

If Melo goes Fisher's job is easy for next yeart till 2015 for the cap relief and rebuild espcially if Iman is gone.

Now if Melo resigns it'll be interesting. East still sucks but Washington and Toronto are on the rise and I'm not sure how I feel about the Cavs next season. Knicks will be Healthy but are we are 4-6 seed team?

A lot of unknowns.
You damn well know you don't believe that shit:coleman:

[KyleKong]

Just a hunch, Gorilla...

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll157/ebsweetie/gorilla-walking-away-gif.gif

[Jameerthefear]

melo is leaving, so complete rebuild is likely.

[Real14]

Another screwup by the Knicks.
You talking again?:biggums:

[Sarcastic]

melo is leaving, so complete rebuild is likely.

Still better than the Magics.

[Real14]

bro i know dolan has money but damn. pull a nets and get some youth and talent. we need more than just a head coach. we need a point guard, and a healthy center.
Don't worry bro, we working on it. Phil Jackson didn't come out of retirement to join NY for nothing.

[JUDGE WITNESS]

knicks :lol

[smoovegittar]

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll157/ebsweetie/gorilla-walking-away-gif.gif
That shit was funny! :oldlol:

[hawkfan]

melo is leaving, so complete rebuild is likely.

Where is he going? Chicago doesn't seem likely.

Cleveland? Orlando? Atlanta? Houston?

[Jameerthefear]

Still better than the Magics.
tobias harris + victor oladipo + vuc + our #4 + our #12 + afflalo + o'quinn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any knicks rebuilding pieces. sorry boo.

[Real14]

tobias harris + victor oladipo + vuc + our #4 + our #12 + afflalo + o'quinn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any knicks rebuilding pieces. sorry boo.
when they let you out man?

[Jameerthefear]

when they let you out man?
??

[Real14]

??
:oldlol:

[smoovegittar]

Mickey Mouse's team. The Orlando Douche with Donald Duck over here as #1 fan.

Man, get the phuck outta this Knick's post, asswipe.

[Sarcastic]

tobias harris + victor oladipo + vuc + our #4 + our #12 + afflalo + o'quinn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any knicks rebuilding pieces. sorry boo.


All future Lakers. Have fun prepping them for Los Angeles.

[smoovegittar]

All future Lakers. Have fun prepping them for Los Angeles.
Frustration. Made in Orlando...

[gts]

Interesting hire... Wish Derek all the luck in the world, good to see him get a shot at this, he's dedicated his adult life to the NBA in ways few have.

[Jameerthefear]

All future Lakers. Have fun prepping them for Los Angeles.
ur only rebuttal is to latch off another team? pathetic :oldlol:

[Real14]

ur only rebuttal is to latch off another team? pathetic :oldlol:
You came in here talking shit about us when you damn well know your team and franchise iz worse:lol

[Akrazotile]

Phil needs to be at all their practices and on or near the bench for home games the first year.

Happy for Fisher.


:facepalm

[Dro]

Isn't it weird having a coach who just played last season? I think Fisher is different though. I think the players will respect him....

[gts]

You came in here talking shit about us when you damn well know your team and franchise iz worse:lol


dude's been back from a 2 week ban for 20 minutes and he's already acting like a butthurt asshole again :lol

[Jameerthefear]

You came in here talking shit about us when you damn well know your team and franchise iz worse:lol
Nope. Not right now and not ever.

[Sarcastic]

ur only rebuttal is to latch off another team? pathetic :oldlol:

It's not latching. It's the reality of the Magics. No one ever spends more time there than they have to.

Who is a career Magic player? Penny is the only one I can think of.

[Jameerthefear]

dude's been back from a 2 week ban for 20 minutes and he's already acting like a butthurt asshole again :lol
I said what 20 other people in this thread said already. Except when I said it my team got attacked for no reason. :rolleyes: I didn't even start this and people are trying to blame it on me.

[Real14]

It's not latching. It's the reality of the Magics. No one ever spends more time there than they have to.

Who is a career Magic player? Penny is the only one I can think of.
http://img.pandawhale.com/58917-Shaq-video-camera-whoa-oh-gif-1jyY.gif

[Sarcastic]

I said what 20 other people in this thread said already. Except when I said it my team got attacked for no reason. :rolleyes: I didn't even start this and people are trying to blame it on me.

You don't come to every Knicks thread and talk shit?
:biggums:

[Real14]

Isn't it weird having a coach who just played last season? I think Fisher is different though. I think the players will respect him....
Thanks for tha Honesty bro:applause:

[Real14]

dude's been back from a 2 week ban for 20 minutes and he's already acting like a butthurt asshole again :lol
yea and he picking battles that he know he cant win:oldlol:

[smoovegittar]

yea and he picking battles that he know he cant win:oldlol:

By far THE biggest loser on ISH. He's so pathetic... it's probably why he gets allowed back in here. He'd hook up with a bullet if he couldn't troll here anymore.

[Jameerthefear]

You don't come to every Knicks thread and talk shit?
:biggums:
You don't do the same to Magic threads?

[Sarcastic]

You don't do the same to Magic threads?

I care more about dog shit on the floor, than I do about the Magics.

[Jameerthefear]

I care more about dog shit on the floor, than I do about the Magics.
Then I'm afraid to see what you do with dog shit.

[Le Shaqtus]

At least hire someone with actual experience, shit.

[D-Rose]

At least hire someone with actual experience, shit.
I don't see the downside to this. Kidd and Jackson have shown recently that no coaching is not really an issue. The Phil Jackson presence makes it that much easier for Fisher to transition. Not to mention he already knows that system and will have former Phil assistant coaches on his staff.

[Real14]

By far THE biggest loser on ISH. He's so pathetic... it's probably why he gets allowed back in here. He'd hook up with a bullet if he couldn't troll here anymore.
most definitely:lol

[Real14]

Then I'm afraid to see what you do with dog shit.
pretty sure you know all about dat apartment:coleman:

[Dengness9]

I like the hire with what other options, or lack thereof, are out there.


I definitely see a rebuild. Melo doesn't want another year of non contention. I think he leaves, and Chandler goes too because he doesn't want to wither away his last years for a non contending team as well.

Shump has been rumored to be traded for a while. JR Smith is too sketchy too depend on year in year out.

With the Phil at the top and Fish as coach, they should be good to turn the franchise around in a 2-3 seasons. Gonna take patience. They gotta blow that team up in the meantime.

[Real14]

I like the hire with what other options, or lack thereof, are out there.


I definitely see a rebuild. Melo doesn't want another year of non contention. I think he leaves, and Chandler goes too because he doesn't want to wither away his last years for a non contending team as well.

Shump has been rumored to be traded for a while. JR Smith is too sketchy too depend on year in year out.

With the Phil at the top and Fish as coach, they should be good to turn the franchise around in a 2-3 seasons. Gonna take patience. They gotta blow that team up in the meantime.
Keep hating:coleman:

[no pun intended]

It's not latching. It's the reality of the Magics. No one ever spends more time there than they have to.

Who is a career Magic player? Penny is the only one I can think of.
http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/omg/grand/omg_gif_1397.gif

[Dengness9]

Keep hating:coleman:

If you think that's hating, especially from me....you are clueless.


You think a team who couldn't even finish better than the 38 win Hawks led by Jeff Teague and Paul Milsap, is going to contend for a championship next year?


And Biggie is coming back from the dead too right?:coleman:


Stop being so sensitive.

[Real14]

If you think that's hating, especially from me....you are clueless.


You think a team who couldn't even finish better than the 38 win Hawks led by Jeff Teague and Paul Milsap, is going to contend for a championship next year?


And Biggie is coming back from the dead too right?:coleman:
1. This will not be tha same team az last year
2. Phil Jackson didn't came here to rebuild either he came here to help us win championship as soon as possible
3. Last year we didn't made it due to tanking leadership by pierce and LeBron at tha end of tha season
4. Knicks had multiple injuries
5. Don't forget about what we did in 2013:no:
hatin' ass niguh:coleman:

[Real14]

http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/omg/grand/omg_gif_1397.gif
Iz dat Aubrey?:lol

[Solefade]

melo is definitely leaving

[fpliii]

1. This will not be tha same team az last year
2. Phil Jackson didn't came here to rebuild either he came here to help us win championship as soon as possible
3. Last year we didn't made it due to tanking leadership by pierce and LeBron at tha end of tha season
4. Knicks had multiple injuries
5. Don't forget about what we did in 2013:no:
hatin' ass niguh:coleman:
Real talk willds - I don't know if "as soon as possible" is a good call. Yes, it is Phil, a legendary figure in this league. But quick fixes have gotten the Knicks in trouble.

I think they need to spend the next year or two cleaning house and putting together a supporting cast so they can just slot in a star or two from the 2015/2016 free agency pools. Not just any role players, they need guys who will be able to function well in the triangle.

[smoovegittar]

I like the hire with what other options, or lack thereof, are out there.


I definitely see a rebuild. Melo doesn't want another year of non contention. I think he leaves, and Chandler goes too because he doesn't want to wither away his last years for a non contending team as well.

Shump has been rumored to be traded for a while. JR Smith is too sketchy too depend on year in year out.

With the Phil at the top and Fish as coach, they should be good to turn the franchise around in a 2-3 seasons. Gonna take patience. They gotta blow that team up in the meantime.

Don't be so certain. A lot of people have Melo walking... I for one don't see it. Chandler. J.R. - for sure. But if you know anything about Phil, you know he wants to build around a star. Carmelo Anthony is that star.

[Taller than CP3]

I would have preferred to see D Fish coach Kobe and the Lakers lol

[Dengness9]

1. This will not be tha same team az last year
2. Phil Jackson didn't came here to rebuild either he came here to help us win championship as soon as possible
3. Last year we didn't made it due to tanking leadership by pierce and LeBron at tha end of tha season
4. Knicks had multiple injuries
5. Don't forget about what we did in 2013:no:
hatin' ass niguh:coleman:

1. This team won't be the same as last year if Melo doesn't come back and Tyson will want out too.

2. Phil Jackson came to NYC to clean up the mess. It's gonna take a year or two at least to get the team back in the right direction. I don't doubt Phil will do a good job but it won't happen overnight. You acting like Phil is Jesus. He needs more players to do anything.

3. Last year the Knicks didn't make it because they won a pathetic 37 games. Tanking leadership by Pierce and James? You are even more delusional than I expected. I don't want to know how many more excuses you've made up to be "reasons" for not making the playoffs in one of the weakest conferences in NBA history.

4. Injuries? My Bulls lost Rose after the first 2 weeks and then traded Deng away right after. Still won 48 games. STFU, that's worse than anything the Knicks went through.

5. Don't forget about 2013? Congrats on winning the division(first time since 94) with 54 wins but then getting pretty much easily dismantled by the Pacers in six, all while having home court. 2nd round exits excite you a lot don't they?


For the record, I applauded the Knicks hiring of Fisher. And also stated , the Pjax/Fish era will be a good thing for NY.

We got wannabe thug over here crying about every post that doesn't crown the Knicks 2015 champs. Worry about making the playoffs first. Actually worry about Melo coming back first. I'm not all that sure Phil wants to pay him max money at his age to be the building block for the Knicks.

[Dengness9]

Don't be so certain. A lot of people have Melo walking... I for one don't see it. Chandler. J.R. - for sure. But if you know anything about Phil, you know he wants to build around a star. Carmelo Anthony is that star.

I'm not certain. I actually don't think Phil is set on Melo. I could see him letting him walk and grabbing a much younger stud next summer.

A guy like Love if he makes it to FA.....maybe Kyrie if it doesn't pan out in Cleveland?

[All Net]

Thank Steve kerr for that contract.

[Sarcastic]

Mike Woodson lost about 20 games with his boneheaded decisions. If the same core comes back, they will be closer to the 54 win team from 2 years ago, than the 37 win team from last year.

[jstern]

I really don't like Fisher.

[Dengness9]

Mike Woodson lost about 20 games with his boneheaded decisions. If the same core comes back, they will be closer to the 54 win team from 2 years ago, than the 37 win team from last year.


I'm with you. 45-48 wins with same team is where I got em.

Pacers will still be good, Bulls should be better. Washington, Charlotte getting better. Horford hopefully plays a healthy season making the Hawks better. Wild card team is Cleveland.

Edit: Toronto! How could i forget! They need Lowry back though.

[poido123]

I really don't like Fisher.


You will like him if he's coaching your team to wins...:confusedshrug:

[Jameerthefear]

You will like him if he's coaching your team to wins...:confusedshrug:
Which he won't be.

[Just2McFly]

Don't you think there might be something to the fact that Pat Ewing shows interest in EVERY coaching job that opens up and EVERY GM basically ignores him?

He obviously has a reputation as a shitty coach.
If Mike Brown can get multiple gigs even though he doesn't know the first thing about offense, which is approximately half of the damn game.... I don't understand why Ewing isn't getting a shot

[bagelred]

So the Clippers are worth $2 billion, which means the Knicks are probably worth at least $3 billion, and you guys are worried that Knicks overpaid Fisher? Uh...Dolan shits gold....who cares....

[smoovegittar]

I'm not certain. I actually don't think Phil is set on Melo. I could see him letting him walk and grabbing a much younger stud next summer.

A guy like Love if he makes it to FA.....maybe Kyrie if it doesn't pan out in Cleveland?

I can't see PJ chasing after Love - I myself consider him a second tier player. I'm on board with Kyrie though... I could see this.

You're a Bulls fan - d'ya want Melo?

[MavsSuperFan]

Ewing does deserve some NY love, but this is all Phil's call. He was brought in to put his system in place and his own guys.

‏@highkin 2m
The 5 highest paid coaches in the NBA: Doc Rivers ($7m), Stan Van Gundy ($7m), Gregg Popovich ($6m), Steve Kerr ($5m), Derek Fisher ($5m)
Phil getting his guys paid :applause: :applause: :applause:

[MavsSuperFan]

It's good Fish got the job but at the same time I feel like this is gonna be a trend now. I would rather see older guys that have been assistants to coaches get a chance to prove themselves like Patrick Ewing, Tyrone Lue and some other guys instead of giving guys like Kidd and Fisher chances right out the gate with no experience.

I wish the workforce would do this.
phil needs a coach that will run the triangle

[smoovegittar]

If Mike Brown can get multiple gigs even though he doesn't know the first thing about offense, which is approximately half of the damn game.... I don't understand why Ewing isn't getting a shot
From what I understand, Pat's had some "instances" in NYC with clubs, girls and things. I remember reading little blurbs in the press about some crazy parties with his crew. I don't know if this has anything at all to do with the Garden's aversion to employing him, but just recently he wiggled into a few games as a sort of cameo, but it never caught on. He looked a little blazed at one of the games IMHO :oldlol: . It's a good question that will probably never be answered.

I'm happy with the selection.

[Dengness9]

I can't see PJ chasing after Love - I myself consider him a second tier player. I'm on board with Kyrie though... I could see this.

You're a Bulls fan - d'ya want Melo?


I do want Melo..... the way things have gone w/ Derrick and the injuries....gotta get another star in here asap.

Love or Melo this summer. Love will take more to get I would think, but Id obviously give up what it takes.

Melo is very attractive because if he takes less and comes here, Bulls could get rid of everything besides Rose, Butler, Gibson, and Noah.....plug Melo in that lineup and thats a championship team....

[AnaheimLakers24]

Good luck fish!

[alanLA92]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[smoovegittar]

I do want Melo..... the way things have gone w/ Derrick and the injuries....gotta get another star in here asap.

Love or Melo this summer. Love will take more to get I would think, but Id obviously give up what it takes.

Melo is very attractive because if he takes less and comes here, Bulls could get rid of everything besides Rose, Butler, Gibson, and Noah.....plug Melo in that lineup and thats a championship team....
You think Melo co-exists with Thibs? Seriously, who's your #1 pg? (said respectfully)
These things plus rise of teams like the Wiz will weigh heavily on Carmelo.

[Meticode]

The Knicks situation will be extremely interesting to watch this season. I expect some new/different players, you got Jackson there, and Fisher coaching. Crazy that both New York teams in the last year have hired coaches that were just NBA players months previously (or in this case days) before their hire.

[smoovegittar]

Over 2770 views. Apparently, the Knicks are the hot topic. :cheers:

[russwest0]

I think he'll be a damn good coach for them down the line. Excellent hire.

I'd say let phil jackson run the training camp and offseason activites this time around with derek fisher basically shadowing him.

anyways in OKC the players listened to fisher more than they did scott brooks. the guy is an excellent leader and motivator who players will respect. plus he has a high basketball IQ as well.

[Straight_Ballin]

First the doubt from ISH on Kidd being a decent first year coach and now Fisher.
Beta mentality of the doubters shining true today....

[DatAsh]

Good for him :cheers:

[TrueRob]

If the Knicks suck next season, Fisher will get the blame. If the Knicks are good next season, Phil Jackson will get the credit. :lol

[DaSeba5]

Well the Knicks are not going to win in the short term, but it could be a good long term move. I can't judge the move until we see how Fisher does and until they build a good roster. If I was a Knicks fan, I would trust Phil. It can't get any worse.

[Dengness9]

You think Melo co-exists with Thibs? Seriously, who's your #1 pg? (said respectfully)
These things plus rise of teams like the Wiz will weigh heavily on Carmelo.

100 % believe he can co exist with Thibs. Melo has to respect his coach totally. Not the case with any coach he's had in NYC. Thibs track record of success after just 4 years as a HC speaks volumes to Melo. And Thibs has gone through 3 straight seasons without a true superstar on his team as great as Noah was this year.

Both Melo and Thibs want one thing.....a championship. Staying in the East with lack of elite teams is the best path to the finals. If I'm leaving NY because I'm not sure when the Knicks are going to be true contenders(at least one more season), Bulls are the clear option depending on if those ******s in Miami break up.

Melo could have Butler to take the tougher wing matchup on D, with Gibson/Noah down low combo in their primes. Wild card is Derrick Rose quite obviously. Even if something happens to Rose again, a Melo/Butler/Gibson/Noah core could raise absolute hell in the shaky east.

[Patrick Chewing]

Both Melo and Thibs want one thing.....a championship.

:oldlol:

Every star player and coach want a championship.

[Dengness9]

:oldlol:

Every star player and coach want a championship.


Thibs and Melo can go after one next year.....realistically. Every star is not in position to realistically do it.

Melo is in his prime for a few more years and Thibs has been in the NBA longer than most coaches.

And it's not as simple as you tried to make it. Some stars care as much or more about money or location. We'll see what happens with Melo when the smoke clears.

[LongLiveTheKing]

Lol Derek Fisher.
Melo's gone, Knicks are going to suck with or without him.

[Trentknicks]

Knicks starting chemistry from the front office down, and Fisher gets to learn under one of the GOAT coaches tutelage for 5 seasons. Yeah, what a horrible decision :rolleyes:

[jimmy77x]

Lol Derek Fisher.
Melo's gone, Knicks are going to suck with or without him.

Who else could they have gotten to appease you heat/bran bandwagon ph@ggots?

[COnDEMnED]

Good hire, bad contract. This wont end well for NY. Should have gave him a test run of 2 years first.

[Trentknicks]

Good hire, bad contract. This wont end well for NY. Should have gave him a test run of 2 years first.
Who cares about the length or amount he's getting paid. If he sucks he'll just be tossed and paying out his contract is nothing for Dolan. People just nitpicking for the slightest attempt to make a criticism.

[Legends66NBA7]

I really wonder what Direction the Knicks will take.

Iman is rumored to be on the trading block ironically with OKC for two picks correct?

I would really like to know why Shumpert is involved in all these trades for picks or players, when he hasn't really proven to by anything but a below average player at best and on top of that he's been injury prone at times.

At worst case: He's Landry Fields. At best case: He's Evan Turner.

Then again, there's terrible management so someone could always bite. Doubt it would be OKC, though.

[Trentknicks]

I would really like to know why Shumpert is involved in all these trades for picks or players, when he hasn't really proven to by anything but a below average player at best and on top of that he's been injury prone at times.

At worst case: He's Landry Fields. At best case: He's Evan Turner.

Then again, there's terrible management so someone could always bite. Doubt it would be OKC, though.
What made you feel the need to post this like 10 times in the last few days over several different threads?

[GimmeThat]

Charles Barkley and Tiger Woods

they still talk to each other?

[Legends66NBA7]

What made you feel the need to post this like 10 times in the last few days over several different threads?

Because their games are all the same, if given the same role. There are off course some differences in their games. The particular ones are:

Shumpert can play the best defense of the 3.
Fields can play the best off the ball of the 3.
Turner can handle the ball the best of the 3.

Other than that, they are more or less the same player. If any of them were on a contender, they would be on the bench and would probably be designated as a defensive specialist.

So I really don't see how Shumpert gets you picks and players, while Fields and Turner wouldn't. You might as well let them all walk and test the FA.

[AirFederer]

They scared now :banana:

[russwest0]

Ewing does deserve some NY love, but this is all Phil's call. He was brought in to put his system in place and his own guys.

‏@highkin 2m
The 5 highest paid coaches in the NBA: Doc Rivers ($7m), Stan Van Gundy ($7m), Gregg Popovich ($6m), Steve Kerr ($5m), Derek Fisher ($5m)

and 3 of those guys were just hired.

I think with both the globalization of the NBA brand and with owners finally realizing after tons of coaches fired after year 1 or 2 that having a good coach is everything in this league that they are worth a little more.

[russwest0]

Because their games are all the same, if given the same role. There are off course some differences in their games. The particular ones are:

Shumpert can play the best defense of the 3.
Fields can play the best off the ball of the 3.
Turner can handle the ball the best of the 3.

Other than that, they are more or less the same player. If any of them were on a contender, they would be on the bench and would probably be designated as a defensive specialist.

So I really don't see how Shumpert gets you picks and players, while Fields and Turner wouldn't. You might as well let them all walk and test the FA.

Shumpert would have gotten a first rounder from OKC but Dolan derped.

If he can keep improving his 3pt shot he'll be a solid 3 and D player. That has much more value than what Fields and Turner can ever provide.

[R.I.P.]

Pay a good friend who has absolutely no coaching experience 25 million dollars. A good friend nobody else even looked to hire. Ah some things never change. Go Knicks. :roll: :roll:

[R.I.P.]

@highkin 2m
The 5 highest paid coaches in the NBA: Doc Rivers ($7m), Stan Van Gundy ($7m), Gregg Popovich ($6m), Steve Kerr ($5m), Derek Fisher ($5m)

Greg Popovich 6 million dollars....

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-j2bywQP2Kf0/TfE-J5v2dBI/AAAAAAAAAKk/e1z-fZ8sON8/s320/rick%252Bcarlisle.jpg

Doc Rivers 7 million dollars...
http://standingosports.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/rick-carlisle-basketball-nose.jpg

Stan van Gundy 7 million dollars...
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/uqERJUHYuHg/0.jpg


Steve Kerr 5 million dollars....
http://mit.zenfs.com/207/2011/05/cac_rc_mavs.jpg

Derek Fisher 5 million dollars....

http://c2.hoopchina.com.cn/uploads/star/event/images/130927/dfb514145330598d2b9f44cfdc98c744efc9fd44.jpg

How much you making Rick....
http://wagesofwins.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/512x.jpg

[aboss4real24]

nggas n here mad as hell :lol

stop cryn bit ches

NYK Mkn great moves

and melo is obv stayn no way he leaves all reports point to that

[East_Stone_Ya]

Knicks just took another L

[aboss4real24]

knicks won

[DCL]

shit, even in basketball, it's not what you know, but WHO you know if you want to get ahead.

$5mil/per year for an unproven rookie coach. damn, connections to phil jackson are lucrative.

[Nick Young]

Greg Popovich 6 million dollars....

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-j2bywQP2Kf0/TfE-J5v2dBI/AAAAAAAAAKk/e1z-fZ8sON8/s320/rick%252Bcarlisle.jpg

Doc Rivers 7 million dollars...
http://standingosports.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/rick-carlisle-basketball-nose.jpg

Stan van Gundy 7 million dollars...
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/uqERJUHYuHg/0.jpg


Steve Kerr 5 million dollars....
http://mit.zenfs.com/207/2011/05/cac_rc_mavs.jpg

Derek Fisher 5 million dollars....

http://c2.hoopchina.com.cn/uploads/star/event/images/130927/dfb514145330598d2b9f44cfdc98c744efc9fd44.jpg

How much you making Rick....
http://wagesofwins.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/512x.jpg
Fish has 4 x-titles. Do Doc Rivers and Rick Carlyle have 4x titles? :roll:

YOU CAN'T TEACH CHAMPIONSHIP EXPERIENCE:rockon:

[Rameek]

I dont like this contract JKidd got 2.5 mill... Even the 4.4 Kerr was offered was too much. But GSW set the precedence. I think the Knicks didnt want this to drag on and let some other team get into the FREY.

Know one knows what Phil will do but its too difficult to rebuild at this point unless Melo opts out. Melo stays they retool.

[el gringos]

Melo stays they retool.
What do you mean? Do you mean trade chandler and amare or do you mean let everyone expire and count on free agency 2015 or 2016?

[Rameek]

What do you mean? Do you mean trade chandler and amare or do you mean let everyone expire and count on free agency 2015 or 2016?
Retool meaning they will find better players for the Triangle offense for the upcoming season. Or do more addition by subtraction.... Tweaking the roster.

I'd imagine the most likely and most desired pieces to go are Felton, Shump, Bargs. I cant see Chandler being moved unless the Knicks get back a decent Center or have a replacement in mind.

Rebuilding is Melo opting out and then Phil starts to gut the roster to get more TRIANGLE friendly players during the next season. Any and every player could go except probably Stat & Hardaway Jr.

[Jailblazers7]

Welp, looks like Phil is already playing puppet master. Went after two ex-players who he probably feels he can easily control and basically makes running the triangle a requirement for hire.

[Rameek]

Welp, looks like Phil is already playing puppet master. Went after two ex-players who he probably feels he can easily control and basically makes running the triangle a requirement for hire.
Brah that was a prereq where ya been?

[el gringos]

Retool meaning they will find better players for the Triangle offense for the upcoming season. Or do more addition by subtraction.... Tweaking the roster.

I'd imagine the most likely and most desired pieces to go are Felton, Shump, Bargs. I cant see Chandler being moved unless the Knicks get back a decent Center or have a replacement in mind.

Rebuilding is Melo opting out and then Phil starts to gut the roster to get more TRIANGLE friendly players during the next season. Any and every player could go except probably Stat & Hardaway Jr.
But you know that bargnani is a much better fit in the triangle than chandler. And that his best position is C.

Carmelo is as Triangle friendly as they come

[Nick Young]

Welp, looks like Phil is already playing puppet master. Went after two ex-players who he probably feels he can easily control and basically makes running the triangle a requirement for hire.
The triangle wins championships, so I dont understand why a common fan would be against the president trying to implement a championship winning offense.

I don't understand why the Lakers tried to move away from the triangle and disrespected Shaw giving the job to shit Mike Brown instead.

I dont understand what anyone would have against the Triangle offense. It might as well be called 'the Championship offense' or atleast the 'deep playoff run' offense

[Jailblazers7]

The triangle wins championships, so I dont understand why a common fan would be against the president trying to implement a championship winning offense.

I don't understand why the Lakers tried to move away from the triangle and disrespected Shaw giving the job to shit Mike Brown instead.

I dont understand what anyone would have against the Triangle offense. It might as well be called 'the Championship offense' or atleast the 'deep playoff run' offense

I don't have anything against it, in fact I like the offense a lot. It's fun to watch. I just see Phil meddling a ton with the coaching. He didn't just get a coach to run the triangle but an ex-player with zero coaching experience. You think Fish is going to say "No Phil, I'm the coach" when Pjax tells him what line-up to roll out?

The dude basically wants to be the coach without having to sit on the bench or run practices.

[Rameek]

The dude basically wants to be the coach without having to sit on the bench or run practices.
Basically... I dont get the big deal over the Triangle offense... It just creates space for ISO ball nothing really magical about it. Nothing really pretty about it.


But you know that bargnani is a much better fit in the triangle than chandler. And that his best position is C.

Carmelo is as Triangle friendly as they come
Bargs is oft injured, inefficient, undependable, overpaid, non-existent, and underwhelming most nights.

Of course Melo is great for the triangle its ISO ball at its finest.

[R.I.P.]

The triangle wins championships, so I dont understand why a common fan would be against the president trying to implement a championship winning offense.

What won the championships was Jordan, Pippen, Shaq, Kobe and a bunch of top class players. They could have run the kindergarten rectangle.

[R.I.P.]

I don't have anything against it, in fact I like the offense a lot. It's fun to watch. I just see Phil meddling a ton with the coaching. He didn't just get a coach to run the triangle but an ex-player with zero coaching experience. You think Fish is going to say "No Phil, I'm the coach" when Pjax tells him what line-up to roll out?

The dude basically wants to be the coach without having to sit on the bench or run practices.

He wants to have Fisher to sit through the trash stages, when the team has no chance to compete. Once, IF, they ever manage to assemble a credible contender Fisher is gone. But I m sure Fisher understand this and he

[GimmeThat]

I don't have anything against it, in fact I like the offense a lot. It's fun to watch. I just see Phil meddling a ton with the coaching. He didn't just get a coach to run the triangle but an ex-player with zero coaching experience. You think Fish is going to say "No Phil, I'm the coach" when Pjax tells him what line-up to roll out?

The dude basically wants to be the coach without having to sit on the bench or run practices.

Phil won't even have the opportunity nor the need to tell Fisher what line up to put out.

Because getting a line up is his next priorty/problem.

[Kiddlovesnets]

The triangle wins championships, so I dont understand why a common fan would be against the president trying to implement a championship winning offense.

I don't understand why the Lakers tried to move away from the triangle and disrespected Shaw giving the job to shit Mike Brown instead.

I dont understand what anyone would have against the Triangle offense. It might as well be called 'the Championship offense' or atleast the 'deep playoff run' offense

The triangle wins championships, but the Knicks do not win championships.

[GimmeThat]

[QUOTE=R.I.P.]He wants to have Fisher to sit through the trash stages, when the team has no chance to compete. Once, IF, they ever manage to assemble a credible contender Fisher is gone. But I m sure Fisher understand this and he

[Dagouch]

The triangle wins championships, but the Knicks do not win championships.

1978 for you my friend and wasn't that in the ABA?:lol

[Dagouch]

I'm really curious on who his assistants will be?

[GimmeThat]

The triangle wins championships, but the Knicks do not win championships.

So what happened between 05-09?
Or are you really going to leave it up that easily for me to say that Pau Gasol helped the Lakers to win a championship and that talent matters?


I'm glad I have seen so many teams trying to run the show time offense since the 80s.


what's basketball?

[Rameek]

I'm really curious on who his assistants will be?
Rumored and Assumed that Rambis, Cleamons, Cartwright, Luke Walton, and maybe Rick Fox.

[ArbitraryWater]

**** Derek Fisher as a player, person, and general parasitic life-form, but I think he'll be a good head coach.

[wally_world]

I hope he doesnt keep this stupid beard

[gts]

Phil always said it takes two full seasons for him to teach a player to become adept at the triangle offense and that's when you already have players on the team who know the system that can help the player on the floor

I wonder...How long does it take when you have to teach the coach/staff first so they can teach an entire squad of guys not named Lamar Lamar Odom

[Legends66NBA7]

Shumpert would have gotten a first rounder from OKC but Dolan derped.

If he can keep improving his 3pt shot he'll be a solid 3 and D player. That has much more value than what Fields and Turner can ever provide.

His 3 point is average at best right now, but overall is a negative on offense with his overall efficiency being a problem. You also have to figure in how much of attention Carmelo Anthony is drawing so he can get those 3 point shots off.

Perhaps he does have the best potential out of the group (Turner seems to have developed bad habits and Fields can't stay healthy), but I don't think it's worth a pick. Then again, a dumb management will probably bite.

[CHi1PriDe]

Are knicks fans happy about this signing?! Knicks fans were talking shit how its good they didn't overpay Kerr because he's a rookie coach and later on, Knicks offered dfish even more? Knicks wanted Shaw more... Honestly, I would prefer Kerr who is more experienced and played with both pjax and pop.

Sorry for the late post, I was in the Bahamas :pimp: