For a "Stacked" Team, Miami Sure Sucks Balls Without LeBron

[SilkkTheShocker]

they went off a ****ing cliff as soon as he got cramps. Felt like I was watching his Cleveland teammates out there for a little. Absolute garbage team carried by LeBron. Going to be amazing when he carries them past the finish line with this cast.

[imdaman99]

What a surprise, a team isn't as good without their best player... :facepalm

Please make better threads. Have a nice day!

[livinglegend]

This team is all lebron. It isnt like Jordan s Bulls that won 55 games without him.

[RagaZ]

Wow, Silkktheshocker on ISH after a Miami loss :eek:

[edrick]

What a surprise, a team isn't as good without their best player... :facepalm

Please make better threads. Have a nice day!

OP's comments are probably directed at all of the idiots that were saying that the Heat would make the Finals without Lebron on the team.

[livinglegend]

What a surprise, a team isn't as good without their best player... :facepalm

Please make better threads. Have a nice day!

They were crap without him. Your ''as good'' statement doesnt do justice to Lebron s impact on that team.

[nathanjizzle]

actually, the heat went on a run with lebron sitting out in the first half, and when he came back in they lost the lead.

[zoom17]

It will make it that much sweeter when the Heat 3-peat:cheers:

[Rose'sACL]

actually, the heat went on a run with lebron sitting out in the first half, and when he came back in they lost the lead.
that was against mostly spurs bench though.

[edrick]

actually, the heat went on a run with lebron sitting out in the first half, and when he came back in they lost the lead.

http://i.imgur.com/RpEaNDx.jpg

[ibjar7]

This team is all lebron. It isnt like Jordan s Bulls that won 55 games without him.
Yea that team is jus like that 09 cavs team that went 66-16...no championship. Nothing like that 96 bulls team that went 72-10+championship

[imdaman99]

They were crap without him. Your ''as good'' statement doesnt do justice to Lebron s impact on that team.
So you're telling me this is the first time the Spurs have beat a team on their homecourt? Spurs mowed through the West and blew out OKC everytime in San Antonio. Miami Heat without Lebron are as good as a healthy OKC team? That's not stacked at all.

[livinglegend]

Yea that team is jus like that 09 cavs team that went 66-16...no championship. Nothing like that 96 bulls team that went 72-10+championship

refs gave the Knicks that series in game 7, otherwise that Bulls team was a serious title contender

[nathanjizzle]

http://i.imgur.com/RpEaNDx.jpg

thats a sample size for a 5 minute stretch? i could choose the 5 minutes that lebron went to the bench and the heat went up and lebron comes back in and heat loses the lead. that would paint a picture that contradicts yours.

its just stupid to judge the heat without lebron on a 5 minute stretch where the spurs just went ham. :confusedshrug:

[livinglegend]

So you're telling me this is the first time the Spurs have beat a team on their homecourt? Spurs mowed through the West and blew out OKC everytime in San Antonio. Miami Heat without Lebron are as good as a healthy OKC team? That's not stacked at all.

:biggums:
WTF are you talking about?
I was talking about Miami with and without Lebron in that game. With Lebron, they were beating a very good Spurs team and without Lebron, the game turned into a blow-out within 8 minutes of game play.
Why did you go off-topic like that?

[Droid101]

http://i.imgur.com/RpEaNDx.jpg
LeBron had a +/- of 0 when on the court. That graphic is misleading, because he wasn't playing in all 40 of those minutes.

But, keep perpetuating that lie, it's an easy one to debunk.

[edrick]

It's stupid to judge 8 minutes of basketball when the Heat were leading most of the way, then got blown the **** out?


LeBron had a +/- of 0 when on the court. That graphic is misleading, because he wasn't playing in all 40 of those minutes.

But, keep perpetuating that lie, it's an easy one to debunk.

There's a difference between the game being close, and being blown out. Do you understand the difference?

[Solefade]

So you're telling me this is the first time the Spurs have beat a team on their homecourt? Spurs mowed through the West and blew out OKC everytime in San Antonio. Miami Heat without Lebron are as good as a healthy OKC team? That's not stacked at all.


not as good as an okc but ain't soft ass bitches that's for sure

[Purch]

You know the difference between the 90's bulls/current spurs and the heat?

Both Pop and Jackson had/have a system in place where they can generate good shots even if their best player isnt on the floor. The whole system in place in Miami is centered around Lebron's game do its nearly impossible to generate good shots without him

[KG215]

OP's comments are probably directed at all of the idiots that were saying that the Heat would make the Finals without Lebron on the team.
Who knows. It wouldn't completely be out of the question. San Antonio is easily the best team they've played in the playoffs so far. They wouldn't have had to play any team in the East nearly as well-coached, disciplined, or deep.

[imdaman99]

:biggums:
WTF are you talking about?
I was talking about Miami with and without Lebron in that game. With Lebron, they were beating a very good Spurs team and without Lebron, the game turned into a blow-out within 8 minutes of game play.
Why did you go off-topic like that?
It's the only way to explain to you that the Spurs are not some shitty eastern conference team that the Heat would be able to beat without bran. Spurs blew out the Blazers and OKC everytime in San Antonio. Spurs were getting open shots galore with and without bran on the floor, especially in the 4th. Boris Diaw was having his way as well. Don't act so surprised.

[Dr Seuss]

You know the difference between the 90's bulls/current spurs and the heat?

Both Pop and Jackson had/have a system in place where they can generate good shots even if their best player isnt on the floor. The whole system in place in Miami is centered around Lebron's game do its nearly impossible to generate good shots without him

pretty much this. same reason why his cleveland teammates seemed so underwhelming. when your only system is iso ball with your best player, and allow him to make the play - score, pass, etc - youre not going to get the best production out of your teammates

its not impossible to keep the ball in lebrons hands and have a team centered system at the same time. however, we have yet to see any lebron led team implement one. its a double edged sword, so to speak

[ibjar7]

refs gave the Knicks that series in game 7, otherwise that Bulls team was a serious title contender
So wat happened to the bulls game 1,2,5 losses did refs give knicks those games aswell? Ref may impact a game as was the case for game7 but not an entire series, the better team will always win the series just like 06 heat, 12 heat, 13 heat no refs gave a series to any team, if the 94 bulls couldve they wouldve

[DFish24]

http://makeameme.org/media/created/damage-control-damage.jpg

[COnDEMnED]

they went off a ****ing cliff as soon as he got cramps. Felt like I was watching his Cleveland teammates out there for a little. Absolute garbage team carried by LeBron. Going to be amazing when he carries them past the finish line with this cast.
Double damage control, I like your style. Blaming everyone but Lebron for the loss, but giving him all the praise if they win the series.. it's a no lose situation..

[Budadiiii]

So hes by far the best player on the court not named Tim Duncan and he refuses to play.

What is wrong with that picture. You have 40 year old Tim Duncan on the verge of heat stroke out there giving it his all and here is LeBron in the prime of his life needing to be helped off the damn court during the closing minutes in game 1 of the NBA finals. :facepalm

Tim DunCAN > LeCan't

[gts]

When a team or it's system is built around one player and he unexpectedly goes out for the last 5 minutes of the game against one of the best teams in the league in the NBA Finals it shouldn't come as a surprise they struggled


The Heat without Lebron are still one of the best teams in the league

[Beastmode88]

Lol the damage control from these stans are ridiculous.

[red1]

that's because they arent stacked. lebron is by far the best player in the league and most of the heat's success can be attributed to him

[Beastmode88]

that's because they arent stacked. lebron is by far the best player in the league and most of the heat's success can be attributed to him

i guess 2011 proves your point. lebron for goat. :applause:

[deja vu]

This team is all lebron. It isnt like Jordan s Bulls that won 55 games without him.
Pretty sure this Heat team can win 50+ games without LeBron. Wouldn't win the title though.

[FLDFSU]

What a surprise, a team isn't as good without their best player... :facepalm

Please make better threads. Have a nice day!

But the Miami Heat are no ordinary team. You guys said that the Miami Heat were the most stacked team of all time. Stacked teams do not depend on one person to win or lose a game.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

LeBron had a +/- of 0 when on the court. That graphic is misleading, because he wasn't playing in all 40 of those minutes.

But, keep perpetuating that lie, it's an easy one to debunk.

Exactly, LeBron being on the floor literally had no effect on the cHeat winning or losing.

[Rodmantheman]

Pretty sure this Heat team can win 50+ games without LeBron. Wouldn't win the title though.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/4789500/skip-bayless-shocked-o.gif

[deja vu]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/4789500/skip-bayless-shocked-o.gif
Pretty sure that Wade, Bosh and company are better than Chicago and Toronto which both won 48 games. :lol

[Rocketswin2013]

Pretty sure this Heat team can win 50+ games without LeBron. Wouldn't win the title though. Miami only won 54 games......But without LeBron they'd only lose 3 or 4 less? :biggums: :biggums:

[deja vu]

Miami only won 54 games......But without LeBron they'd only lose 3 or 4 less? :biggums: :biggums:
They're cruising. If LeBron had put in more effort they would have won 60 or more.

Now tell me how a LeBron-less Heat would win about the same amount of games as Chicago and Toronto. :roll:

I'll wait.

[Rodmantheman]

Pretty sure that Wade, Bosh and company are better than Chicago and Toronto which both won 48 games. :lol

wade missed like 30+ games so you have wade sit basically half the season you have Bosh and you win 50+ games:facepalm

[deja vu]

wade missed like 30+ games so you have wade sit basically half the season you have Bosh and you win 50+ games:facepalm
So basically the LeBron-less Heat are like the Cavaliers? :roll:

Pippen missed 38 games and the Bulls went 62-20. :bowdown:

[Rodmantheman]

So basically the LeBron-less Heat are like the Cavaliers? :roll:

Pippen missed 38 games and the Bulls went 62-20. :bowdown:

Bulls are stacked:confusedshrug:

[Cali Syndicate]

This team is all lebron. It isnt like Jordan s Bulls that won 55 games without him.

Yes, because the bulls team was playing a championship contender every game throughout that entire regular season. Common sense bro, heard of it?

[Sarcastic]

How come Lebron could win with an UNstacked team in Miami, but couldn't win with an UNstacked team in Cleveland?

[LeBird]

How come Lebron could win with an UNstacked team in Miami, but couldn't win with an UNstacked team in Cleveland?

Being unstacked and being garbage are two different things. Use your brain brah.

[Crimsonrain777]

Being unstacked and being garbage are two different things. Use your brain brah.

maybe he doesnt have one?:confusedshrug:

[coin24]

Poor bran has to carry these Miami cavaliers, if only he had an all star teammate right??:lol

[red1]

How come Lebron could win with an UNstacked team in Miami, but couldn't win with an UNstacked team in Cleveland?
what an idiotic post. did you think you were being clever? :oldlol:

[NumberSix]

Miami does not suck without LeBron. Miami is the best.

[ArbitraryWater]

So wat happened to the bulls game 1,2,5 losses did refs give knicks those games aswell? Ref may impact a game as was the case for game7 but not an entire series, the better team will always win the series just like 06 heat, 12 heat, 13 heat no refs gave a series to any team, if the 94 bulls couldve they wouldve

you dont even know what you're talking about son... game 5 was the one they impacted not game 7. Bet you never even saw the ending.

[ArbitraryWater]

When a team or it's system is built around one player and he unexpectedly goes out for the last 5 minutes of the game against one of the best teams in the league in the NBA Finals it shouldn't come as a surprise they struggled


The Heat without Lebron are still one of the best teams in the league

Hey gtretard, that post just made ZERO SENSE...


And then you go on to say they are still one of the best teams in the league without LeBron.... Riiiiiiight. They're built about LeBron only? Why not around all the other great playmakers?

[ArbitraryWater]

How come Lebron could win with an UNstacked team in Miami, but couldn't win with an UNstacked team in Cleveland?

You're better than that, Sarcastic..

[Straight_Ballin]

This team is all lebron. It isnt like Jordan s Bulls that won 55 games without him.

Who cares? The difference here is that Jordan didn't "cramp up" in any of his finals appearances unlike bron boy.

[Rose'sACL]

Who cares? The difference here is that Jordan didn't "cramp up" in any of his finals appearances unlike bron boy.
jordan didn't try as hard thanks to the most stacked team compared to competition in modern era.

[aj1987]

Who cares? The difference here is that Jordan didn't "cramp up" in any of his finals appearances unlike bron boy.
:facepalm

http://www.complex.com/sports/2014/06/michael-jordan-taken-out-nba-finals-game-cramps-like-lebron-james