Stephen A Smith: "Game One Was Decided By The AC Being Down"

[russwest0]

Anyone see him just say this on ESPN?

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[Derka]

Yeah he and Wilbon are on now. F*ck Stephen A.

[Mass Debator]

Can't bring the Heat when it's already hot. :confusedshrug:

[RagaZ]

He's a massive Heat supporter. Talks about Wade and James as his mates.

[ace23]

He's correct.

[russwest0]

He's a massive Heat supporter. Talks about Wade and James as his mates.

sounds like perfect ESPN material

[Smook A.]

What a stupid excuse.

"Breaking News: LeBron James Got Hurt Because It Was Too Hot"

[Bobcats2013]

lol can't wait to see first take tomorrow

[215Philly]

Jemele Hill speaking that real ish on twitter :applause:

[The-Legend-24]

It's ESPN, they munch of Bran's dick like no other... except for maybe Pauk.

[Black and White]

Stephen A is an idiot, how can it decide the game when BOTH teams have to play through it?

[Heavincent]

Here comes ESPN with their Heat defense force badges.

[played0ut]

It's true.


fun fact: The Spurs players are unique in that they are physiologically immune to high temperature.

[chocolatethunder]

He's correct.
Yes of course because it didn't affect the Spurs. Lebron or no Lebron, the Spurs tried to give this game away and yet the Heat were still letting them stay close. This game had nothing to do with the AC.

[AcquiringSteak]

he's right, if the AC was working, lebron may be able to stay in the game, and put them in a better position to win (they were 86-79 from memory)

it doesnt matter if both teams are playing with the broken AC, some people get affected more than others, its something that the players of both teams shouldnt have to worry about

[ProfessorMurder]

These f*ckers live in Miami all year and can't handle it being in the high 80s? :roll:

[stalkerforlife]

When the collusion first happened, I called Stephen A. Smith's radio show and went HAM on how cowardly it was. Stephen A tried to cut me off and disagree vehemently, but I just kept bringing the thunder. He couldn't take the heat and hung up on me.

I wish I would've recorded it.

[deja vu]

Looks like the Heat were the only ones playing without AC.

[chocolatethunder]

Man up and play in the heat. They're all pros. Grow a pair and stop making excuses. Even when Bron was in the game they were barely up and the spurs were giving the ball away. Give it up and grow some fvckin nuts.

[Milbuck]

Both ****ing teams had to play through this. Miami was in every position to win this game, with or without Lebron. Wade and Bosh were balling, the team just mentally folded. Even with Lebron out, they had the talent and game to win. Blame the team, don't blame Lebron or the AC.

[j3lademaster]

He's right in saying that. With the arena being so hot, the game became more of a battle of will and playing through discomfort. That closed the gap in talent with the Spurs being the team with more heart, toughness and resilience. If the game was normal, Miami's talent alone would have made it a much closer game.

[AintNoSunshine]

he's right, if the AC was working, lebron may be able to stay in the game, and put them in a better position to win (they were 86-79 from memory)

it doesnt matter if both teams are playing with the broken AC, some people get affected more than others, its something that the players of both teams shouldnt have to worry about
Exactly

[NumberSix]

The AC did NOT decide the game. That's an idiotic thing to say. Nobody has any clue how the game would have went if this didn't happen.

[russwest0]

ESPN just posted the advanced stats of the Heat before and after LeBrons first cramp :lol :lol :lol

The dude had a 0 +/- this game and ESPN is blaming all of this on the AC going down and apparently causing LeBrons cramp :oldlol:

[AT9]

he's right, if the AC was working, lebron may be able to stay in the game, and put them in a better position to win (they were 86-79 from memory)

it doesnt matter if both teams are playing with the broken AC, some people get affected more than others, its something that the players of both teams shouldnt have to worry about

Spurs had come back and taken the lead by the time he went out, and momentum had swung 100% their way. Lebron may have helped keep them closer, but they had finally put it together after a disastrous 3rd quarter.

[edrick]

ESPN just posted the advanced stats of the Heat before and after LeBrons first cramp :lol :lol :lol

The dude had a 0 +/- this game and ESPN is blaming all of this on the AC going down and apparently causing LeBrons cramp :oldlol:

http://i.imgur.com/RpEaNDx.jpg

[MavsSuperFan]

Both teams played in the same heat.

The older team theoretically should be hurt by the heat more.

[AT9]

Also, these teams are in f--king Miami and San Antonio. Neither team can complain about heat.

It'd be different if this was Spurs and Toronto or something.

[russwest0]

http://i.imgur.com/RpEaNDx.jpg

lebron, holding the spurs to 7-19 shooting from deep :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

it's a shame he got that cramp, otherwise the spurs wouldn't have have hit any 3 pointers

[edrick]

Also, these teams are in f--king Miami and San Antonio. Neither team can complain about heat.

It'd be different if this was Spurs and Toronto or something.

People are focusing too much on the heat. Lebron has cramped up like this during the playoffs several times.

[Heavincent]

ESPN: The official channel of the Miami Heat.

[BigBoss]

Skip will destroy him tomorrow

[Just2McFly]

Also, these teams are in f--king Miami and San Antonio. Neither team can complain about heat.

It'd be different if this was Spurs and Toronto or something.
You act like they play outside...this isnt the nfl... and even then in the nfl players get cramps all the f*cking time

[MavsSuperFan]

You act like they play outside...this isnt the nfl... and even then in the nfl players get cramps all the f*cking time
Both teams played in the same heat.

It wasnt like the spurs got to play with the AC on.
Theoretically the heat should have hurt the older team more.

38 year old duncan played through.

[NumberSix]

Both teams played in the same heat.

It wasnt like the spurs got to play with the AC on.
Theoretically the heat should have hurt the older team more.

38 year old duncan played through.
The Heat IS the older team.

[tanner892]

Lol it's a disadvantage for both teams, more the Spurs when u consider the age of their star players and fat boy Boris Diaw, Ray Allen at 39 was fine wasn't he? Maybe if Bran stopped injecting gear in his butt he'd be fine too.

[MavsSuperFan]

The Heat IS the older team.
:wtf: I will admit that surprises me. But lebron is one of the younger guys out there.

[tanner892]

The Heat IS the older team.

their core players of Bran Bosh and Wade are alot younger than Duncan Manu and Parker, please dont use Birdman and Ray Allen who just spot up shoots to call yourself the 'older team' please go Heat fans, pathetic.

[NumberSix]

Lol it's a disadvantage for both teams, more the Spurs when u consider the age of their star players and fat boy Boris Diaw, Ray Allen at 39 was fine wasn't he? Maybe if Bran stopped injecting gear in his butt he'd be fine too.
Gear? Like what? Pads and helmets? :confusedshrug:

[j3lademaster]

You act like they play outside...this isnt the nfl... and even then in the nfl players get cramps all the f*cking timeYeah, and they don't get passes or excuses made up for them by ESPN when they lose because of it.

[stalkerforlife]

The Heat IS the older team.

:facepalm

[ace23]

I can't tell if the people making the "Both teams played in the heat" argument are mentally handicapped or just looking for an excuse to rag on Bron. Yes, both teams played in the heat. Lebron cramped up because of the heat. Are you saying that it's his fault that he cramped up? What?

That argument is what retards are made of.

[AT9]

You act like they play outside...this isnt the nfl... and even then in the nfl players get cramps all the f*cking time

Read what MavsSpursFan said. It's not like the Spurs got to play in an air conditioned bubble. Plus, these guys are some of the best athletes in the world (minus Diaw), their bodies are conditioned to handle heat and stress. Lebron got a cramp...that's nothing new.

[edrick]

Both teams played in the same heat.

It wasnt like the spurs got to play with the AC on.
Theoretically the heat should have hurt the older team more.

38 year old duncan played through.

So, if any player is injured at all, people can say that the other players weren't injured, and so that player has no excuse for becoming injured? lol

[navy]

Both teams played in the same heat.

It wasnt like the spurs got to play with the AC on.
Theoretically the heat should have hurt the older team more.

38 year old duncan played through.
Did Duncan get cramps? No.

Stop acting like everyone's body type is the same and everyone reacts to the hot weather the same way. ANyone that plays sports can tell you when your body is done it is done. Nothing you can do.

But, but, but, Lebron is only 28. :facepalm

[russwest0]

ESPN: The official channel of the Miami Heat.

This broadcaster literally just said "My twitter mentions are blowing up with LeBron, but remember, last year the Spurs won game one and the Heat still won the series.

And he did this while motioning his arms in a "calm down" motion. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

You can't script this shit, ESPN is pulling for the Heat so much.

[AT9]

I can't tell if the people making the "Both teams played in the heat" argument are mentally handicapped or just looking for an excuse to rag on Bron. Yes, both teams played in the heat. Lebron cramped up because of the heat. Are you saying that it's his fault that he cramped up? What?

That argument is what retards are made of.

No. It's a counter-argument against the idea that the broken AC caused the Heat to lose. When both teams suffer the same conditions, you can't blame your loss on those conditions. Not that hard to grasp.

[DFish24]

http://makeameme.org/media/created/damage-control-damage.jpg

[ace23]

No. It's a counter-argument against the idea that the broken AC caused the Heat to lose. When both teams suffer the same conditions, you can't blame your loss on those conditions. Not that hard to grasp.
When your best player cramping up is a direct result of those conditions, yes, you can blame the loss on those conditions. I would have said the same if either team had a player cramp up. It just corrupts the validity of the series. Huge asterisk, especially if the Spurs win in 7.

[RoseCity07]

It's 100% true. And I'd say the same thing had Miami won and the Spurs lost Tim Duncan or Manu, even though we all know Lebron impact on the game is 3 players on the Spurs.

[NumberSix]

:facepalm
Face palm yourself idiot.


Miami heat average age = 30.3
San Antonio spurs average age = 28.5

[BigBoss]

http://legalsweat.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/original-scaled500.gif

[MavsSuperFan]

So, if any player is injured at all, people can say that the other players weren't injured, and so that player has no excuse for becoming injured? lol
Fine, but both teams played in the same heat. it was fair is all I am saying.

Also if the spurs choose to not fix the AC for game 2 that should be their right. It hurts their team just as much.


I can't tell if the people making the "Both teams played in the heat" argument are mentally handicapped or just looking for an excuse to rag on Bron. Yes, both teams played in the heat. Lebron cramped up because of the heat. Are you saying that it's his fault that he cramped up? What?

That argument is what retards are made of.

All I am saying is that it isnt unfair that he cramped up. If 2 runners run a race and one gets tired first is that unfair because the distance was too long?

Maybe Lebron should have drank more fluids. Maybe the heat need a better medical staff/trainers. Other people managed to prevent their bodies from cramping.

Nothing unfair happened is all i am arguing. Both teams played in the same conditions. Their bodies reacted differently, but that is not unfair.

[Droid101]

I can't tell if the people making the "Both teams played in the heat" argument are mentally handicapped or just looking for an excuse to rag on Bron. Yes, both teams played in the heat. Lebron cramped up because of the heat. Are you saying that it's his fault that he cramped up? What?

That argument is what retards are made of.
I've been watching NBA playoff basketball since 1993. I've only ever seen one player have to sit out a game due to "cramps" ever.

bran. Twice.

Take it or leave it.

[SCdac]

:roll: ....... excuses

http://gamedayr.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/lebron-james-cramping-meme7-570x648.jpg

[GoSpursGo1984]

When your best player cramping up is a direct result of those conditions, yes, you can blame the loss on those conditions. I would have said the same if either team had a player cramp up. It just corrupts the validity of the series. Huge asterisk, especially if the Spurs win in 7.

All the players knew it was hot they should of known to hydrate throughout the game. Why is it that Lefaint is the only one with cramps?

[stalkerforlife]

Face palm yourself idiot.


Miami heat average age = 30.3
San Antonio spurs average age = 28.5

:facepalm

[WadeStan]

Stephen A is an idiot, how can it decide the game when BOTH teams have to play through it?

When the conditions are bad, your workhorses tend to suffer first. Same thing happened w/the flu game aka food poisoning game for MJ. There's no way the Jazz could have been sure that Jordan would succumb, but all those minutes being the #1 option catch up to you. Spurs have great depth and minutes management. On the other hand Spo's been running LBJ to the the ground all year and didn't even let him sit at the top of the 4th and let Wade run the 2nd unit. Whatever, on to the next.

[NumberSix]

Fine, but both teams played in the same heat. it was fair is all I am saying.
Right, and Kobe was playing the same game on the same court. What's his excuse for tearing his Achilles when nobody else did?

[MavsSuperFan]

When your best player cramping up is a direct result of those conditions, yes, you can blame the loss on those conditions. I would have said the same if either team had a player cramp up. It just corrupts the validity of the series. Huge asterisk, especially if the Spurs win in 7.
How would you have felt about the boston garden not even having an AC system in the 80s?

As long as 2 competitors compete under the same conditions, the competition is fair.

Spurs should not be forced to fix their AC system.

[MavsSuperFan]

Right, and Kobe was playing the same game on the same court. What's his excuse for tearing his Achilles when nobody else did?
And the lakers losing because kobe was gone was also fair.

The AC not working didnt invalidate the spurs win at all.

[GimmeThat]

anyone saw the Spurs passing the ball all the way back to the half court right after Lebron signaled the bench?

how does a team have their heart skip a beat when the opposing teams BEST player signals the bench?

:lol

[Droid101]

:facepalm
He's a ****ing idiot. We only need a day or two for someone to do the "average age based on player minutes played" so we can see a real comparison.

Guess what, just because you have a 40 year old sitting on your bench all game doesn't mean you get to inflate the age of the players that are actually playing.

[BasedTom]

He's a dumbass. You and him have a lot in common.

[NumberSix]

And the lakers losing because kobe was gone was also fair.

The AC not working didnt invalidate the spurs win at all.
There are no invalidated wins. If 5 Spurs players get murdered over the weekend and Miami win 4 strait games, it doesn't invalidate their win. It's quite obvious that it had an effect though. This should need to be explained.

[MavsSuperFan]

Did Duncan get cramps? No.

Stop acting like everyone's body type is the same and everyone reacts to the hot weather the same way. ANyone that plays sports can tell you when your body is done it is done. Nothing you can do.

But, but, but, Lebron is only 28. :facepalm
Agreed. But I am saying that the AC being down was fair.

Are you arguing game one was unfair?

Some people are better sprinters than others, while maybe the reverse is true for long distance running. As long as the 2 racers run the same distance the competition is fair. It isnt equal but its still fair.

Heat fans would have a case if Spurs played under cooler conditions. Just because lebron's body didn't handle the temperature as well, doesn't mean the competition was unfair is all I am saying.

[ace23]

Fine, but both teams played in the same heat. it was fair is all I am saying.

Also if the spurs choose to not fix the AC for game 2 that should be their right. It hurts their team just as much.



All I am saying is that it isnt unfair that he cramped up. If 2 runners run a race and one gets tired first is that unfair because the distance was too long?

Maybe Lebron should have drank more fluids. Maybe the heat need a better medical staff/trainers. Other people managed to prevent their bodies from cramping.

Nothing unfair happened is all i am arguing. Both teams played in the same conditions. Their bodies reacted differently, but that is not unfair.
Sure you could say it's "fair" in a sense. But in this case, an unexpected circumstance directly led to a team having a disadvantage. There's a lot of shit that's "fair" by your definition that would give a certain team a clear advantage.

[tpols]

Excuses.

[MavsSuperFan]

There are no invalidated wins. If 5 Spurs players get murdered over the weekend and Miami win 4 strait games, it doesn't invalidate their win. It's quite obvious that it had an effect though. This should need to be explained.
good we agree, spurs won fair and square.

nothing in the NBA rule book mandates AC systems :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

[tpols]

Sure you could say it's "fair" in a sense. But in this case, an unexpected circumstance directly led to a team having a disadvantage. There's a lot of shit that's "fair" by your definition that would give a certain team a clear advantage.

What disadvantage miami had that the spus didnt? :biggums:

[stalkerforlife]

He's a ****ing idiot. We only need a day or two for someone to do the "average age based on player minutes played" so we can see a real comparison.

Guess what, just because you have a 40 year old sitting on your bench all game doesn't mean you get to inflate the age of the players that are actually playing.

Exactly.

:roll:

[ace23]

What disadvantage miami had that the spus didnt? :biggums:
...

[ace23]

good we agree, spurs won fair and square.

nothing in the NBA rule book mandates AC systems :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
That doesn't change the fact that what Stephen A said is true.

[ProfessorMurder]

So according to Heat fans the arena needs to be at the specific mean temperature that makes it optimal for ever player's body, or else it's not fair.

Reasonable.

[MavsSuperFan]

Sure you could say it's "fair" in a sense. But in this case, an unexpected circumstance directly led to a team having a disadvantage. There's a lot of shit that's "fair" by your definition that would give a certain team a clear advantage.
Usain bolt running the 10,000m race against Kenenisa Bekele would put him at a disadvantage. Kenenisa Bekele running against bolt in the 100m would also clearly put him at a disadvantage.

My definition of fair is just that both competitors compete under the same conditions. those conditions might wildly favor one competitor, but that doesn't mean the competition is unfair.

Eg. if i raced bolt i would lose 100% of the time. Doesnt mean the race was unfair. Its just he is better than me.

What would be unfair is if you started me at the 90m mark.

Heat and spurs played in the same conditions in game one. spurs adjusted better. it was 100% fair

[tpols]

...

bran getting cramps?? that coulda happened to anyone. Parkers played with cramps the whole last two playoff runs. To attribute it directly to the AC is bs

[NumberSix]

So according to Heat fans the arena needs to be at the specific mean temperature that makes it optimal for ever player's body, or else it's not fair.

Reasonable.
Who? :confusedshrug:

[NumberSix]

bran getting cramps?? that coulda happened to anyone. Parkers played with cramps the whole last two playoff runs. To attribute it directly to the AC is bs
Do you understand what causes muscle cramps? Do you know what playing in high heat does?


I'll give you a hit. The thing that happens from playing in high heat coincidently is the very thing that causes muscle cramps. Shocker.

[SCdac]

Lebron James pre-game, "every game is a game 7!" :oldlol:

unless it gets a little too hot, than it's a game 1

[ace23]

Lebron James pre-game, "every game is a game 7!" :oldlol:

unless it gets a little too hot, than it's a game 1
You know he tried to come back in the game right?

[Quickening]

Benefited spurs because of Lebrons cramps and how deep spurs are. And there must be rules about court temperatures.. Brb playing top heavy team so we will turn up the heat so their best players can't play long minutes

[GoSpursGo1984]

Benefited spurs because of Lebrons cramps and how deep spurs are. And there must be rules about court temperatures.. Brb playing top heavy team so we will turn up the heat so their best players can't play long minutes

Spurs may be deeper but they have older players. Temp affected both teams. How come Lecramp was the only one cramping and has cramped before in the playoffs.

[tpols]

Do you understand what causes muscle cramps? Do you know what playing in high heat does?


I'll give you a hit. The thing that happens from playing in high heat coincidently is the very thing that causes muscle cramps. Shocker.

Tony Parker and Tim Duncan played just as many mintutes as Lebron did up until he cramped up:confusedshrug: Diaw played like 2 minutes less

Why didnt they?

[Mrofir]

hahaahhahahahhahhahhaahahhaahhahahah

[tanner892]

Lebron James pre-game, "every game is a game 7!" :oldlol:

unless it gets a little too hot, than it's a game 1


:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[navy]

Tony Parker and Tim Duncan played just as many mintutes as Lebron did up until he cramped up:confusedshrug: Diaw played like 2 minutes less

Why didnt they?
Different body types. :confusedshrug:

Eveyone is different. Lebron has a history of cramping up, but also has a history of walking off ankle rolls and not getting injured. Might be his large muscle mass, might be he doesnt retain enough water.

Shit happens. Just one game. :confusedshrug:

[Pointguard]

Lebron has always been susceptible to cramps - even when he drinks a lot of water, and the team with the deeper bench does have an advantage. Kind of surprised that the Union doesn't have a temperature call to offer a protest to a game (before its played). I think the Heat should not play again in those conditions.

But sometimes, that's just the way the ball bounces. Everybody else knew how to regulate themselves except Lebron. It could be Lebron compact muscle tension which makes his mass react/reflex so quickly accelerates the chance for cramps. Or it could be nerves. We just don't know.