How tha hell Melo didnt make any 13-14 All-NBA team.

[Real14]

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: What's going on with this league????????????? What tha hell iz going on!!!!! Damn!Damn!! DAMN!!!!!!!! your thoughtz?

[Im Still Ballin]

Cos you a lil' bitch boy.

[Real14]

Cos you a lil' bitch boy.
go back to nursing on Lebron's package:coleman:

[hawksdogsbraves]

There's a lot of good wings right now, so if you can't even make the playoffs in a god awful conference then you aren't All-NBA material.

[fpliii]

Eh, he made it last year, and he'll make it next year. :confusedshrug:

[Real14]

There's a lot of good wings right now, so if you can't even make the playoffs in a god awful conference then you aren't All-NBA material.
Shut tha hell up. who's next with a real answer?

[Real14]

Eh, he made it last year, and he'll make it next year. :confusedshrug:
He suppose to make it this year too man, he's better than dat overrated scrub George too.

[Smook A.]

I think it was because the Knicks didn't do so well in the regular season, but that shouldn't matter, imo. He's a really good player and he had a very good individual season. Melo should've atleast made All-NBA 3rd team

[Legends66NBA7]

Other players receiving votes, with point totals:

Carmelo Anthony, New York, 86 (1 First Team vote); John Wall, Washington, 70; Tim Duncan, San Antonio, 63 (1); DeMar DeRozan, Toronto, 56; Anthony Davis, New Orleans, 40 (1); Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas, 37 (1); Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City, 32 (1); Kyle Lowry, Toronto, 29; DeAndre Jordan, L.A. Clippers, 21; Roy Hibbert, Indiana, 17; Marc Gasol, Memphis, 16 (2); DeMarcus Cousins, Sacramento, 14 (1); Kyrie Irving, Cleveland, 7; Dwyane Wade, Miami, 6; Mike Conley, Memphis, 4; Serge Ibaka, Oklahoma City, 4; Zach Randolph, Memphis, 4; Joe Johnson, Brooklyn, 4; Lance Stephenson, Indiana, 3; Ty Lawson, Denver, 2; Paul Millsap, Atlanta, 2; Chris Bosh, Miami, 1; Andre Drummond, Detroit, 1; Monta Ellis, Dallas, 1; Kawhi Leonard, San Antonio, 1.

[russwest0]

I guess because the nba understands that playing in the East is easy as hell so you have to do something extraordinary to make the all nba team from there

[Real14]

I think it was because the Knicks didn't do so well in the regular season, but I that shouldn't matter, imo. He's a really good player and he had a very good individual season. Melo should've atleast made All-NBA 3rd team
yea cuz why in tha phuck dragic made it right??:banghead:

[SCdac]

How did Parker make All-NBA team averaging 16.7 ppg and playing basically a career low in MPG? :lol


Other players receiving votes, with point totals:

Carmelo Anthony, New York, 86 (1 First Team vote); John Wall, Washington, 70; Tim Duncan, San Antonio, 63 (1); DeMar DeRozan, Toronto, 56; Anthony Davis, New Orleans, 40 (1); Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas, 37 (1); Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City, 32 (1); Kyle Lowry, Toronto, 29; DeAndre Jordan, L.A. Clippers, 21; Roy Hibbert, Indiana, 17; Marc Gasol, Memphis, 16 (2); DeMarcus Cousins, Sacramento, 14 (1); Kyrie Irving, Cleveland, 7; Dwyane Wade, Miami, 6; Mike Conley, Memphis, 4; Serge Ibaka, Oklahoma City, 4; Zach Randolph, Memphis, 4; Joe Johnson, Brooklyn, 4; Lance Stephenson, Indiana, 3; Ty Lawson, Denver, 2; Paul Millsap, Atlanta, 2; Chris Bosh, Miami, 1; Andre Drummond, Detroit, 1; Monta Ellis, Dallas, 1; Kawhi Leonard, San Antonio, 1.

maaaan I feel like I'd take half these players over the players that got picked .. whatever

[Real14]

Other players receiving votes, with point totals:

Carmelo Anthony, New York, 86 (1 First Team vote); John Wall, Washington, 70; Tim Duncan, San Antonio, 63 (1); DeMar DeRozan, Toronto, 56; Anthony Davis, New Orleans, 40 (1); Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas, 37 (1); Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City, 32 (1); Kyle Lowry, Toronto, 29; DeAndre Jordan, L.A. Clippers, 21; Roy Hibbert, Indiana, 17; Marc Gasol, Memphis, 16 (2); DeMarcus Cousins, Sacramento, 14 (1); Kyrie Irving, Cleveland, 7; Dwyane Wade, Miami, 6; Mike Conley, Memphis, 4; Serge Ibaka, Oklahoma City, 4; Zach Randolph, Memphis, 4; Joe Johnson, Brooklyn, 4; Lance Stephenson, Indiana, 3; Ty Lawson, Denver, 2; Paul Millsap, Atlanta, 2; Chris Bosh, Miami, 1; Andre Drummond, Detroit, 1; Monta Ellis, Dallas, 1; Kawhi Leonard, San Antonio, 1.
bullshit, I smell a conspiracy with this shit:coleman:

[Legends66NBA7]

I think it was because the Knicks didn't do so well in the regular season, but I that shouldn't matter, imo. He's a really good player and he had a very good individual season. Melo should've atleast made All-NBA 3rd team

I agree for the most part. Love and Dragic shouldn't have made it either. I don't see the Timberwolves making either playoffs in the East or West if all the teams are healthy.

[fpliii]

He suppose to make it this year too stupid, he's better than dat overrated scrub George too.
lol defense is half the game bro, PG is arguably the best defender in the league.

I'm probably a little hard on Melo, but I really do think NY deserves a better star. He was tremendous scoring the ball as always this year (nice shooting numbers from distance as well), grabbed a ton of boards, and put effort in on D.

If we're being real here, the reason he didn't make it is because even though his individual numbers were good, he didn't separate himself from the pack. Fakkits like Woodson, J.R. Smith, and Felton cost him. They won't be a problem for him next year, since Phil is cleaning up the team.

[Real14]

I guess because the nba understands that playing in the East is easy as hell so you have to do something extraordinary to make the all nba team from there
yea that's why westbrook didn't make it too right?:rolleyes: :hammerhead:

[Legends66NBA7]

maaaan I feel like I'd take half these players over the players that got picked .. whatever

Same here.

PG - Russell Westbrook
SG - DeMar DeRozan
SF - Carmelo Anthony
PF - Tim Duncan
C - DeAndre Jordan

Beats the 3rd team and maybe even the 2nd team too.

[Real14]

lol defense is half the game bro, PG is arguably the best defender in the league.

I'm probably a little hard on Melo, but I really do think NY deserves a better star. He was tremendous scoring the ball as always this year (nice shooting numbers from distance as well), grabbed a ton of boards, and put effort in on D.

If we're being real here, the reason he didn't make it is because even though his individual numbers were good, he didn't separate himself from the pack. Fakkits like Woodson, J.R. Smith, and Felton cost him. They won't be a problem for him next year, since Phil is cleaning up the team.
Melo wasn't good on defense?:biggums: George iz overrated on defense too and everybody knows that shit. Melo was tha main reason tha knicks almost had a chance to make tha playoffs especially with all tha injuries we had.:coleman: :coleman:

[Real14]

Same here.

PG - Russell Westbrook
SG - DeMar DeRozan
SF - Carmelo Anthony
PF - Tim Duncan
C - DeAndre Jordan

Beats the 3rd team and maybe even the 2nd team too.
I agree except for DeAndre.

[SexSymbol]

He's easily 3rd team all-nba this year. His effort was on par with all-time bests

[Legends66NBA7]

I agree except for DeAndre.

He's the best available center that wasn't selected to an All-NBA team and lead the league in rebounds and 3rd in blocks.

[Real14]

He's easily 3rd team all-nba this year. His effort was on par with all-time bests
He's easily 2nd team to me. Durant iz overrated by tha way. Sorry to say it.

[Real14]

He's the best available center that wasn't selected to an All-NBA team and lead the league in rebounds and 3rd in blocks.
Yea but Jefferson was a beast tho, I admit.

[fpliii]

Melo wasn't good on defense?:biggums: George iz overrated on defense too and everybody knows that shit. Melo was tha main reason tha knicks almost had a chance to make tha playoffs especially with all tha injuries we had.:coleman: :coleman:
lol I didn't say Melo wasn't good on defense (he played solid D in the post this year), but PG isn't overrated on that end. Nothing supports that claim (if you want to say he's an overrated scorer, that's more reasonable). We'll have to agree to disagree bro. :cheers:

It's not Melo's fault though. Woodson is out and Felton will probably be out soon. I think he makes it next year.

[annbafan]

averaged 27/8 and didn't make it, amazing.

and team results isn't a criteria for it since Love in the 2nd team.

[russwest0]

averaged 27/8 and didn't make it, amazing.

and team results isn't a criteria for it since Love in the 2nd team.

lol Love missed the playoffs in the West, thats a whole different animal.

Throw Love's team in the East and they probably make the 3rd seed :oldlol:

[Real14]

averaged 27/8 and didn't make it, amazing.

and team results isn't a criteria for it since Love in the 2nd team.
wow and I almost forgot about Love aka playoff virgin man made 2nd team:facepalm Something iz really fishy about this league now:coleman:

[Legends66NBA7]

lol Love missed the playoffs in the West, thats a whole different animal.

Throw Love's team in the East and they probably make the 3rd seed :oldlol:

No they wouldn't. If every team was healthy East or West, the Wolves wouldn't make the playoffs. If they were as they stood, they still aren't getting a 3rd seed in the East. Toronto swept both meetings against the Wolves. Put them in the East and Toronto sweeps them 4-0. They could get lucky and just make the 7-8 seed, maybe.

The Wolves were just a bad team this year and lost so many close games. You make mistakes like that and you aren't going anywhere.

[Rameek]

I only can assume it had to be the team record but Love did have a slightly better statistical season. And Indy was the top team in the East.

[Sakkreth]

Well they do not select NBA all-defenseless team.

[Xoush]

Melo should have been in the All-NBA team no doubt. The media isnt giving him the love he derserves. I bet the same "experts" who voted for Harden over Melo are the same experts that predicted Chicago over Washington in the playoffs...

[Real14]

lol Love missed the playoffs in the West, thats a whole different animal.

Throw Love's team in the East and they probably make the 3rd seed :oldlol:
Oh demarr made it?:rolleyes: :hammerhead: :hammerhead:

[Real14]

No they wouldn't. If every team was healthy East or West, the Wolves wouldn't make the playoffs. If they were as they stood, they still aren't getting a 3rd seed in the East. Toronto swept both meetings against the Wolves. Put them in the East and Toronto sweeps them 4-0. They could get lucky and just make the 7-8 seed, maybe.

The Wolves were just a bad team this year and lost so many close games. You make mistakes like that and you aren't going anywhere.
exactly tha wolves never had a chance. Them niguhz haven't made tha playoffs since 2004, ten damn yearz and counting!!!!!!!:banghead:

[Real14]

I only can assume it had to be the team record but Love did have a slightly better statistical season. And Indy was the top team in the East.
that's bullshit tho, like how dragic made it over westbrook iz beyond me:coleman:

[Real14]

Well they do not select NBA all-defenseless team.
Shut your dumbass up. Next?

[Dengness9]

If he comes to Chicago he'll make at least 2nd team next year.

[fpliii]

Anyhow willds, you're my dude, I get where you're coming from.

So what do you want the Knicks to do this offseason? In terms of free agency, trades, new coach, etc.? :cheers:

[Legends66NBA7]

that's bullshit tho, like how dragic made it over westbrook iz beyond me:coleman:

Westbrook only played 46 games. Didn't qualify.

[Real14]

Westbrook only played 46 games. Didn't qualify.
what about Irving?

[Real14]

If he comes to Chicago he'll make at least 2nd team next year.
Come on man don't go there, just don't go there:coleman:

[Real14]

Anyhow willds, you're my dude, I get where you're coming from.

So what do you want the Knicks to do this offseason? In terms of free agency, trades, new coach, etc.? :cheers:
first thing first iz sign melo quickly so we can stop hearing these stupid ass rumors, then we need a coach like fisher or ewing, then get a nice point guard like rondo, better defensive and scoring bigman on tha bench with shooters lined up.

[Keno]

because there were better players than him this season.

[Real14]

because there were better players than him this season.
:coleman:

[Legends66NBA7]

what about Irving?

Irving wasn't making All-NBA this year, injuries or not.

Or do you mean over Dragic ?

[aboss4real24]

all i saw was pg gttn owned by other great wings all year

overrated defender

[StephHamann]

There's a lot of good wings right now, so if you can't even make the playoffs in a god awful conference then you aren't All-NBA material.

by that logic kevin love

[Kblaze8855]

Looking at who made it...all make sense. They rent leaving a 20+ scorer and elite defender who also led the #1 seed off....or Lebron, Durant, or Blake. Love had better numbers while both led bad teams so...whatever. LA led a good team in the west. Melo is a tossup with George and LA....records considered...I see why it went the way it did.

[Legends66NBA7]

[QUOTE=StephHamann]by that logic kevin love

[Real14]

[QUOTE=StephHamann]by that logic kevin love

[Real14]

Looking at who made it...all make sense. They rent leaving a 20+ scorer and elite defender who also led the #1 seed off....or Lebron, Durant, or Blake. Love had better numbers while both led bad teams so...whatever. LA led a good team in the west. Melo is a tossup with George and LA....records considered...I see why it went the way it did.
:coleman:

[ralph_i_el]

He suppose to make it this year too man, he's better than dat overrated scrub George too.

you ask for real answers and then spout off your own bullshit.

Melo missed to playoffs in a shitty year and he still doesn't play D. I wouldn't take him over Bron/Durant/Griffin/Aldridge/PG24/KLove over him. All of those guys play better D than him besides Love and Love plays way better team basketball. Somebody playing forward was going to get snubbed.

I though Wall was a lock for 3rd team but I'm not bitching :confusedshrug:

[Real14]

you ask for real answers and then spout off your own bullshit.

Melo missed to playoffs in a shitty year and he still doesn't play D. I wouldn't take him over Bron/Durant/Griffin/Aldridge/PG24/KLove over him. All of those guys play better D than him besides Love and Love plays way better team basketball. Somebody playing forward was going to get snubbed.

I though Wall was a lock for 3rd team but I'm not bitching :confusedshrug:
:facepalm

[ralph_i_el]

:facepalm

yeah you can ****ing:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm all you want but those guys at least have more than 1 dimension. Now that Melo plays the 4 most of the time he's not even a net+ rebounder. Shit I'd take Dirk over Melo too. Stay salty and the Knicks can stay losing with their 100 million dollar man.

[AintNoSunshine]

Unbelievable, Melo should be there every year

[JUDGE WITNESS]

cus hes a inefficient chucker who doesnt win games

[Real14]

Unbelievable, Melo should be there every year
:applause:

[Real14]

cus hes a inefficient chucker who doesnt win games
When did Love made tha playoffs stupid?:biggums:

[Real14]

yeah you can ****ing:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm all you want but those guys at least have more than 1 dimension. Now that Melo plays the 4 most of the time he's not even a net+ rebounder. Shit I'd take Dirk over Melo too. Stay salty and the Knicks can stay losing with their 100 million dollar man.
When tha last time wizards made tha finals? :biggums: You just hate Melo cuz Love didnt do shit, he never did shit. Paul George def not betterthan Melo either. This isn't tha defensive all NBA teamz either:coleman:

[GrapeApe]

Who does he make it over? All of the forwards selected had either better numbers or more team success than Melo.

[Rameek]

The only player that could have been taken out and put in for Melo is Love. But Love team had a better record in the tougher Conference and he may have been slightly been better statistically.

Maybe this slight will motivate Melo.:applause:

[BasedTom]

Harden and Noah on the 1st team? :wtf:

Melo definitely should have made at least one of the teams

[Draz]

Should of made it.

[ralph_i_el]

When tha last time wizards made tha finals? :biggums: You just hate Melo cuz Love didnt do shit, he never did shit. Paul George def not betterthan Melo either. This isn't tha defensive all NBA teamz either:coleman:

Nobody's talking about the wiz you ****ing moron. I hate Melo and I hated him before Love came into the league he has nothing to do with that. Kevin Love isn't even 26:facepalm

Defense matters. Knicks had titanic holes this season- Ball Movement, Team-D, Wing-D to name a few. Melo didn't help in any of those categories.

[Real14]

Harden and Noah on the 1st team? :wtf:

Melo definitely should have made at least one of the teams
Exactly:facepalm

[Real14]

Nobody's talking about the wiz you ****ing moron. I hate Melo and I hated him before Love came into the league he has nothing to do with that. Kevin Love isn't even 26:facepalm

Defense matters. Knicks had titanic holes this season- Ball Movement, Team-D, Wing-D to name a few. Melo didn't help in any of those categories.
I rest my damn case:coleman:

[Real14]

Who does he make it over? All of the forwards selected had either better numbers or more team success than Melo.
what an idiotic post:coleman:

[joeysms55]

1 Vote for Melo on first team that made Lebron not unanimous in First team.... Hmmm probably the same guy who prevented Lebron to get a unanimous MVP

[houston]

cus hes a inefficient chucker who doesnt win games


yea I can see this

[LeBron 06]

Melo deserved to be in one of his three teams, no doubt....For the good of his career, he must leave the knicks, even if Phil Jackson is with the knicks

The Knicks are a joke since 2001

[Real14]

Melo deserved to be in one of his three teams, no doubt....For the good of his career, he must leave the knicks, even if Phil Jackson is with the knicks

The Knicks are a joke since 2001
Lebron been a joke by joining two superstars to win a ring.

[Lebronxrings]

stat padding isn't valued much in terms of the criteria involved for the voting.

[Real14]

stat padding isn't valued much in terms of the criteria involved for the voting.
Kevin Love made it :coleman:

[Lebronxrings]

Kevin Love made it :coleman:
love had a better team record, as well as put some very appealing stats.

[Real14]

love had a better team record, as well as put some very appealing stats.
go home for being stupid:coleman:

[All Net]

Record

[Real14]

Record
its not right, he's better than love and George. That's just not right:facepalm

[Real14]

who hating on my thread bringing tha 5 starz down to 3?:biggums:

[imdaman99]

Fresh you my boy and all, but I don't care about individual accolades of Knicks players.

If Melo wants to be 1st team on his way to winning a chip with the Knicks, I'm all for it. But on a down year when they don't make the playoffs, I can't get bothered about Melo's individual achievements.

[Real14]

Fresh you my boy and all, but I don't care about individual accolades of Knicks players.

If Melo wants to be 1st team on his way to winning a chip with the Knicks, I'm all for it. But on a down year when they don't make the playoffs, I can't get bothered about Melo's individual achievements.
I know it was a hard year for us, but tha NBA have to do better and give REAL superstar players credit where its due. Dis iz Tha same guy who scored 62 points which was one point over Lebronela career high.

[tanner892]

Top 5 player in the league doesn't make an All NBA Team, lol.

[Real14]

Top 5 player in the league doesn't make an All NBA Team, lol.
that's what im saying:coleman:

[La Frescobaldi]

Nobody's talking about the wiz you ****ing moron. I hate Melo and I hated him before Love came into the league he has nothing to do with that. Kevin Love isn't even 26:facepalm

Defense matters. Knicks had titanic holes this season- Ball Movement, Team-D, Wing-D to name a few. Melo didn't help in any of those categories.

dude every single one of your posts in here is immaculate.

Anthony is the biggest ball hog I can think of since Elvin freaking Hayes and that covers a lot of pigs that I have seen over decades. He zoomed way past Iverson long time ago. Dude wrecked the Nuggets and then he wrecked the Knicks. P Jax oughta send that to D League or amnesty.
For the good of the league.

Google up those Images one time. key word NBA BALLHOG 2014 who do you think shows up instantly top of the pile? That's it man.

Top hits - even over the Kobe 81 trolling pix

[Number24]

It's one thing to miss the playoffs, another how horribly you did... :rolleyes:

[masonanddixon]

Dirk didn't make ALL-NBA either and he was a top 5 player this season.

[MellowYellow]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/sort/VORPe

4th in the league in Estimated wins added but cant make an all nba team.:biggums:

[GimmeThat]

I don't understand why if the All Star format has changed to Front Court and Back Court. What are the reasons the All-NBA team hasn't.

[Droid101]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/sort/VORPe

4th in the league in Estimated wins added but cant make an all nba team.:biggums:
Ah, so you agree that Kevin Love, Demarcus Cousins and Andre Drummond should be in the top 3 NBA teams. And that Kevin Love was better than Melo this year. Good to know.

[MellowYellow]

Ah, so you agree that Kevin Love, Demarcus Cousins and Andre Drummond should be in the top 3 NBA teams. And that Kevin Love was better than Melo this year. Good to know.

Drummond has no argument, however I would have no prob with Cousins being 3rd team center. And statistically K-love and Melo were close, very close. But Melo is a better defender and can create his own shot much better than Love which makes him the better player.

[Legends66NBA7]

If getting to the playoffs is the argument, then Dragic, Love, and Anthony all don't belong. It should looks something like this:

1st Team

G - Chris Paul
G - Stephen Curry
F - Kevin Durant
F - LeBron James
C - Joakim Noah

2nd team

G - James Harden
G - Damian Lillard
F - Blake Griffin
F - LaMarcus Aldridge
C - Dwight Howard

3rd team

G - Kyle Lowry
G - DeMar DeRozan
F - Paul George
F - Tim Duncan
C - DeAndre Jordan


Although, I feel Noah and Howard are inter changable. I got Duncan over Parker as players and Duncan should be the one who get the All-NBA nod as well.

[livingby3's]

A Suns fan n I'm delighted that Dragic was named. Maybe some other players deserved it more, but Dragic did well leading the Suns while Bled was out with injuries or the Suns would have made the POs. So he had a case to be named.

But all those are just a homer's opinion. I think it's more to do with the allstar snub. Though even for that it differs with different opinions whether he should have been an allstar

[EwingMan]

Melo was tha main reason tha knicks almost had a chance to make tha playoffs

http://media2.giphy.com/media/SF2yVevU62cYU/giphy.gif


he put up empty stats on a shitty team which couldnt even achieve 38 wins in an anemic eastern conference (in the atlantic division -worst division in terms of SRS-, no less).

he'll leave town, and have a shot to make it next year. stay mad.

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19aq9s4ct8mnrjpg/ku-xlarge.jpg

[bizil]

Melo in one of my favorite players in the L. But I don't have a problem with his omission. The Knicks sucked this year, but it wasn't his fault. There were too m many injuries and dysfunction on the squad this past year. To be frank who would u take off among forwards:

Bron
Durant

Love
Blake

George
Aldridge

All these guys played on playoff teams except Love and put up the numbers to back it up. I'm sure Melo aint trippin to hard and he had more All NBA teams in his future. He's already made six teams and is on track to be in the HOF. I think he's at the point where it's just about rings. I've seen some guys get robbed, but not this year.

[Real14]

Melo in one of my favorite players in the L. But I don't have a problem with his omission. The Knicks sucked this year, but it wasn't his fault. There were too m many injuries and dysfunction on the squad this past year. To be frank who would u take off among forwards:

Bron
Durant

Love
Blake

George
Aldridge

All these guys played on playoff teams and put up the numbers to back it up. I'm sure Melo aint trippin to hard and he had more All NBA teams in his future. He's already made six teams and is on track to be in the HOF. I think he's at the point where it's just about rings. I've seen some guys get robbed, but not this year.
:biggums:

[MellowYellow]

Melo in one of my favorite players in the L. But I don't have a problem with his omission. The Knicks sucked this year, but it wasn't his fault. There were too m many injuries and dysfunction on the squad this past year. To be frank who would u take off among forwards:

Bron
Durant

Love
Blake

George
Aldridge

All these guys played on playoff teams and put up the numbers to back it up. I'm sure Melo aint trippin to hard and he had more All NBA teams in his future. He's already made six teams and is on track to be in the HOF. I think he's at the point where it's just about rings. I've seen some guys get robbed, but not this year.

Ok, then why isn't David West on the second team instead of Love, He put up some pretty decent numbers and made the playoffs. Then you can take Dragic off and throw in Wall. The fact he didn't make it because of lack of team success is fine with me, what bothers me is that Dragic and Love still made it despite not making the playoffs.

[JohnFreeman]

Melo is the best scorer in the game

[Real14]

Melo is the best scorer in the game
REAL talk.

[Lebronxrings]

http://media2.giphy.com/media/SF2yVevU62cYU/giphy.gif


he put up empty stats on a shitty team which couldnt even achieve 38 wins in an anemic eastern conference (in the atlantic division -worst division in terms of SRS-, no less).

he'll leave town, and have a shot to make it next year. stay mad.

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19aq9s4ct8mnrjpg/ku-xlarge.jpg
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[ralph_i_el]

Melo is the best scorer in the game

:facepalm clearly not. More to scoring than freezing out the rest of your team 15 times a game to jab step like a tap dancer


@Freskkid/Real******/whatever Love's Wolves would have made the playoffs in the east. They should have made the playoffs in the west. They lost a flukish amount of close games and OT games.



At this point Melo is a no-D scoring Bigman who is a below average rebounder for a 4. He doesn't offer any rim protection. Obviously all the Knicks issues on D weren't his fault but he was a contributing factor.

You can say lots of these things about Love but Love is an ELITE rebounder and an ELITE passing big. Love scores in the flow of the game, Melo destroys the flow of the game. Knicks played at one of the slowest paces last year and still couldn't run an efficient offense.


If you gave Melo a team that was constructed by competent management, with a coach that actually knew what he was doing, this may be a different story. Example: Monta Ellis this year in Dallas.

In fact, I've been wondering a lot lately why Melo hasn't tried to emulate some of Dirk's game. Both guys are excellent post up 4's who can get a shot off at any time. Both can shoot and score from every spot on the floor. Why isn't Melo setting more picks and getting open looks? Melo could be deadly off some dribble handoff action (IF they had competent PG play which the knicks don't). I know stylistically Dirk and Melo are worlds apart, but Melo definitly has the tools to do some of the things that made Dirk great. We saw a little of that in first half of 12-13 when the Knicks actually used to move the ball.

So i guess it's not all Melo's fault that he plays for the Knicks and they can't put good players/coaches around him....

OH WAIT IT COMPLETELY IS BECAUSE HE FORCED HIS WAY ONTO THE KNICKS, STRIPPING THEM OFF ASSETS, AND THEN MADE THEM SIGN/RETAIN ALL SORTS OF CAA ATHLETES AND COACHES. Mike Woodson is incompetent (CAA). JR Smith (and his brother) is cancer. It makes it harder to get the pieces you need when people know your corporate structure is completely ****ED.


To sum up my offensive basketball criticism of Melo: He doesn't bend the defense, he forces the issue against set defense.

[HurricaneKid]

He should have been behind Duncan too...

Based on Knicks fans expectations for this season I think its a stretch to say he deserved accolades for his "achievements".

F is the deepest position in the league. 8 of the top 10 PER leaders in the league played F. And that doesn't include Duncan, Dirk, Paul George, etc.

[bizil]

Ok, then why isn't David West on the second team instead of Love, He put up some pretty decent numbers and made the playoffs. Then you can take Dragic off and throw in Wall. The fact he didn't make it because of lack of team success is fine with me, what bothers me is that Dragic and Love still made it despite not making the playoffs.

I realize Love didn't make the playoffs. The other forwards did. And Love's numbers are so gaudy it got him on the squad. The Knicks were one of the biggest disappointments in the L this year and it cost Melo a spot. Given how voters think, I wasn't shocked he didn't make it this year.

[bizil]

Ok, then why isn't David West on the second team instead of Love, He put up some pretty decent numbers and made the playoffs. Then you can take Dragic off and throw in Wall. The fact he didn't make it because of lack of team success is fine with me, what bothers me is that Dragic and Love still made it despite not making the playoffs.

Once again, The Knicks were one of the biggest disappointments of the year. The voters held that against Melo. I realize Love didn't make the playoffs, but his scoring-rebounding-assists numbers for a PF were gaudy ass numbers. And Love plays out West where it's already stacked as it is. Phoenix ACTUALLY OVERACHIEVED in the deep ass West this year. That's why Dragic may have gotten the edge over a Wall. Once again, u HAVE TO FACTOR the expectations of the Knicks AND the conference they played in. I'm not saying it's Melo's fault at all. But this is how the voters think. And given all of the FACTS i stated, it's not shocking to see that Melo didn't make it.

David West didn't do enough to make an All NBA team this year. Bad analogy to use!

[bizil]

And I hear some people complaining about Love being on the team instead of Melo. And how the Wolves didn't make the playoffs either. For starters, the Knicks expectations were a lot higher than the Wolves. And secondly, it's a lot harder to make the playoffs out West as it is. And Love right now is arguably the best PF in the world. Who can make the claim he's the best scoring, rebounding, and passing PF in basketball all in one. And to top it off, he's the premier stretch PF in the L other than Dirk. He's basically redefining the PF position. So Love ISN'T the guy to use for Melo to be on the squad. The Knicks shortcomings (which I don't blame Melo for at all) is the much weaker Eastern Conference cost him his normal All NBA accolades. He will be back on those squads trust me! He's clearly one of the top 5 forwards in the world along with Bron, KD, Love, and Blake.

[tontoz]

yea cuz why in tha phuck dragic made it right??:banghead:


48 wins in the West >>>>>>>> 37 wins in the East

[kshutts1]

Biggest snubs, in order, are Melo, Cousins, Wall. I'd definitely take Melo over Aldridge and Cousins over Jefferson. Every day of the week.

[MellowYellow]

I realize Love didn't make the playoffs. The other forwards did. And Love's numbers are so gaudy it got him on the squad. The Knicks were one of the biggest disappointments in the L this year and it cost Melo a spot. Given how voters think, I wasn't shocked he didn't make it this year.

Sorry but I disagree, with all that happened to them with injuries and such I would call it a miracle they won games. Without Melo they would have been the worst team in the league by a large margin. Case in point, a game in which they played the bucks and Melo was out there doin work tied the game up twice but got no help at all and they lost on a last second buzzer beater by Knight.

[Just2McFly]

http://media2.giphy.com/media/SF2yVevU62cYU/giphy.gif


he put up empty stats on a shitty team which couldnt even achieve 38 wins in an anemic eastern conference (in the atlantic division -worst division in terms of SRS-, no less).

he'll leave town, and have a shot to make it next year. stay mad.

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19aq9s4ct8mnrjpg/ku-xlarge.jpg
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Melo put up empty stats???? Did you watch the Knicks? He was the only one playing?

[The Iron Sheik]

carmelo should have made it over either kevin love or paul george, depending on which criteria you want to use.

[Legends66NBA7]

Love's Wolves would have made the playoffs in the east. They should have made the playoffs in the west. They lost a flukish amount of close games and OT games.

If the East is healthy, they wouldn't make the playoffs. They also lost those close games because of failure to execute defensively late in those games, not because of fluke. It's not a fluke when you lose 15 games by 1 or 2 possessions and even more so by 3 possessions.

They would have most likely lost just as many out East as well. At best, they could have snuck into the playoffs with some of the East teams being battered by injuries, but not at full strength.


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Melo put up empty stats???? Did you watch the Knicks? He was the only one playing?

The agenda is always funny when it comes to teammates. Depending on who the discussion is about, it's either

1) The teammates were the reason why the team lost, regardless of how well or bad _____ player played.

2) The teammates were the reason why the team won, regardless of how well or bad _____ player played.

3) _____ player was the reason why the team lost, regardless of how well or bad teammates played.

4) _____ player was the reason why the team won, regardless of how well or bad teammates played.


It's always 1 of those choices that comes out as the most bizarre. Not even going into how "reffing bias" and "incompetent coaching" is going to effect them too.

[Lebronxrings]

Melo is the best scorer in the game
yea this is true. When I play 2k11, I average at least 50 points.

[Adam Silver]

bullshit, I smell a conspiracy with this shit:coleman:

If he couldn't make it obvious with the freebie free throws I gave him, then he doesn't deserve it.

[bizil]

Sorry but I disagree, with all that happened to them with injuries and such I would call it a miracle they won games. Without Melo they would have been the worst team in the league by a large margin. Case in point, a game in which they played the bucks and Melo was out there doin work tied the game up twice but got no help at all and they lost on a last second buzzer beater by Knight.

But overall, the Knicks season was a disappointment! They were expected to win the Atlantic and possibly make the Eastern Conference Finals to face Miami. The fact that they didn't make the playoffs WAS A DISAPPOINTMENT! The previous year, they won the division and were the number 2 seed in THE EAST! I realize injuries were a part of it, but the season was still a disappointment. And if u ask Melo or any Knick, they would tell u the same thing! And I realize Melo did all he could for the team. However, people shouldn't be outraged that Melo didn't make an All NBA team this year.

[La Frescobaldi]

And I hear some people complaining about Love being on the team instead of Melo. And how the Wolves didn't make the playoffs either. For starters, the Knicks expectations were a lot higher than the Wolves. And secondly, it's a lot harder to make the playoffs out West as it is. And Love right now is arguably the best PF in the world. Who can make the claim he's the best scoring, rebounding, and passing PF in basketball all in one. And to top it off, he's the premier stretch PF in the L other than Dirk. He's basically redefining the PF position. So Love ISN'T the guy to use for Melo to be on the squad. The Knicks shortcomings (which I don't blame Melo for at all) is the much weaker Eastern Conference cost him his normal All NBA accolades. He will be back on those squads trust me! He's clearly one of the top 5 forwards in the world along with Bron, KD, Love, and Blake.

solid except for one fact you left out - LaMarcus Aldridge is elite which drops the Ball Hog out of that top 5 you mention.
Lower still if Cousins is playing a 4. Cousins has grown up for a fact this last season.

[MellowYellow]

But overall, the Knicks season was a disappointment! They were expected to win the Atlantic and possibly make the Eastern Conference Finals to face Miami. The fact that they didn't make the playoffs WAS A DISAPPOINTMENT! The previous year, they won the division and were the number 2 seed in THE EAST! I realize injuries were a part of it, but the season was still a disappointment. And if u ask Melo or any Knick, they would tell u the same thing! And I realize Melo did all he could for the team. However, people shouldn't be outraged that Melo didn't make an All NBA team this year.

WRONG, I do believe ESPN projected them to get 37 wins and that is exactly what they did. So........ I don't know what you are talkin about. The Wolves just flat out have a better supporting cast than the Knicks, no denying that.

[bdreason]

If you can't make the playoffs in the Eastern Conference, you don't deserve to be on an All-NBA team, period.

[MellowYellow]

If you can't make the playoffs in the Eastern Conference, you don't deserve to be on an All-NBA team, period.

The All-NBA team is about individual success not team success.

[ralph_i_el]

The All-NBA team is about individual success not team success.

If you hold the ball as much as melo you take more responsibility

[GimmeThat]

The All-NBA team is about individual success not team success.


I think that assuming the media does their job (that of watching every single game possible if they could) they are best at having the eye test on a players individual defensive impact on the team.

How can a player with such great +/- numbers and not make it on the ALL NBA team?



Can a player win the MVP while your team is having a shitty record?

The Good Ole "why didn't Kobe Bryant win more MVPs, especially the year over Steve Nash" debate

[MellowYellow]

If you hold the ball as much as melo you take more responsibility

And he did good things with it.

http://stats.nba.com/playerTrackingTouches.html?PlayerOrTeam=Player&pageNo=1&rowsPerPage=25&filters=MIN*G*35&sortField=PTS_TCH&sortOrder=DES&SeasonType=Regular%20Season

[MellowYellow]

If you hold the ball as much as melo you take more responsibility

Not to mention, despite playing on one of the most trash teams in the league, he had one of the best simple ratings and net ratings in the league. So yes he made his team better as well.

http://www.82games.com/1314/ROLRTG8.HTM

[bdreason]

The All-NBA team is about individual success not team success.


The East is a joke. If his individual impact on the game was really that impressive... the Knicks would at least be a playoff team.


LeBron takes that same Knicks roster to a top 3 seed out East.

[Trentknicks]

The East is a joke. If his individual impact on the game was really that impressive... the Knicks would at least be a playoff team.


LeBron takes that same Knicks roster to a top 3 seed out East.
You must have watched so many Knicks games this year.