2001 Lakers vs any of the the 2011-2014 Heat teams

[NBAplayoffs2001]

I take the 2001 Lakers.

[ImKobe]

This was thread-worthy. 2001 Lakers GOAT team.

[1987_Lakers]

This was thread-worthy. 2001 Lakers GOAT team.
:oldlol:

[NBAplayoffs2001]

This was thread-worthy. 2001 Lakers GOAT team.

No doubt and one Kobe game winner away in game 1 in the finals to go 16-0 :banana:

[NBAplayoffs2001]

The team was well balanced. I wish they kept Tyrone Lue, he was a great small defender that they could have used in the Pistons series in 2004, I think even Phil Jackson said it could have helped to keep him around.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Heat's Uber Athletic Small LeBron Ball v.s. 2001 Lakers SUPER BIG, Throwing Elbows Shaq Ball featuring New Superstar Kobe

2001 Heat > 2011 Heat (LeBron disappeared in Finals)
2001 Lakers > 2012 Heat (Bosh injured)
2001 Lakers > 2013 Heat (LeBron underperformed, Wade injured)

I don't know if the 2001 Lakers could beat this year's 2014 Heat team though. They might be the best playoff / Finals team we've seen from Miami during this run. Wade's healthy, LeBron isn't disappearing or underperforming.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Heat's Uber Athletic Small LeBron Ball v.s. 2001 Lakers SUPER BIG, Throwing Elbows Shaq Ball featuring New Superstar Kobe

2001 Heat > 2011 Heat (LeBron disappeared in Finals)
2001 Lakers > 2012 Heat (Bosh injured)
2001 Lakers > 2013 Heat (LeBron underperformed, Wade injured)

I don't know if the 2001 Lakers could beat this year's 2014 Heat team though. They might be the best playoff / Finals team we've seen from Miami during this run. Wade's healthy, LeBron isn't disappearing or underperforming.

:no: 7 pts 20% :yaohappy:

[SamuraiSWISH]

:no: 7 pts 20% :yaohappy:
The refs rigged the series to go an extra game. Come on, those foul calls were ATROCIOUS. And I'm not even a LeBron fan. I was watching at the bar thinking ... WOW, only a few other times have I seen such blatant rigging to extend profits, or influence a desired result. 2002 WCF, 2006 NBA Finals.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

The refs rigged the series to go an extra game. Come on, those foul calls were ATROCIOUS. And I'm not even a LeBron fan. I was watching at the bar thinking ... WOW, only a few other times have I seen such blatant rigging to extend profits, or influence a desired result. 2002 WCF, 2006 NBA Finals.

I think some of them were fair. Some were not. He gets away with so many calls. It is kind of like do not take offense if you are a MJ fan, he gets a lot of preferable treatment on calls. MJ during his second three-peat had a lot of calls go his way. Reggie Miller gets punched by MJ and Reggie gets ejected because he hurt MJ hand with his face :lol

[GeeWiz]

The Heat have absolutely no answer for Shaq, he would cause havoc in the paint, the perimeter matchup would be interesting though....

[HoopsFanNumero1]

I said this before as well. If refs call it fair, Heat definitely stand a chance. If instead they let Shaq elbow people in the face without calling a foul and then call touch fouls in his favor on the other end, Lakers will probably take it in 6.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

I said this before as well. If refs call it fair, Heat definitely stand a chance. If instead they let Shaq elbow people in the face without calling a foul and then call touch fouls in his favor on the other end, Lakers will probably take it in 6.

More like 4.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

More like 4.

If the 76ers could take one game, I'm absolutely positive the Heat will at least take it to 6.

[lakerspng]

LeBrons only the third best player in that series. Think about that and then consider whether this question even needs to be addressed.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

LeBrons only the third best player in that series. Think about that and then consider whether this question even needs to be addressed.

So
1) Shaq
2) Refs
3) Lebron

Did I get the order right?

[rzp]

I said this before as well. If refs call it fair, Heat definitely stand a chance. If instead they let Shaq elbow people in the face without calling a foul and then call touch fouls in his favor on the other end, Lakers will probably take it in 6.

LMAO people talking how Shaq would commit foul these days, completly ignoring how players foul him almost every freaking time he touched the ball (hands on his back?)... sometimes it was ridiculously flagrant (2-3 people jumping on him like b!tches), and they got the free pass because of Shaq's size and strengh.

GTFOH

[lakerspng]

So
1) Shaq
2) Refs
3) Lebron

Did I get the order right?

Close...

1 shaq/Kobe - really hard to distinguish that year they were both f'n amazing
3 lebron

As great as lebron is. 2001 Kobe was better

[rzp]

Close...

1 shaq/Kobe - really hard to distinguish that year they were both f'n amazing
3 lebron

As great as lebron is. 2001 Kobe was better

:biggums:

[SamuraiSWISH]

I think some of them were fair. Some were not. He gets away with so many calls. It is kind of like do not take offense if you are a MJ fan, he gets a lot of preferable treatment on calls. MJ during his second three-peat had a lot of calls go his way. Reggie Miller gets punched by MJ and Reggie gets ejected because he hurt MJ hand with his face :lol
Getting superstar calls everyone in awhile is expected. LMAO @ you comparing MJ and Reggie's tussle in the regular season. To Miller getting away with the most blatant offensive foul I've seen in post season history, when he used all his strength to push an unsuspecting MJ completely out of a play to free himself open for a shot.

Of course superstars get protected, or get calls. LeBron was literally, purposly, obviously taken out of game 5 by the refs in Indiana in order to extend the series. Many of those calls wouldn't have been made in game 1 or game 7. They needed to make the rivalry legit, and to extend the series.

The best player int he league, in the series was taken out of the entire game due to ridiculously suspect calls early in the 1st half. That isn't coincidence. MJ's Bulls never won based off suspect officiating.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

I don't think people give enough credit about how good that 76ers team was. Defensively, they were very good. They had the DPOY, Mutombo. MVP in Iverson. Tyrone hill used to be great during the regular season for his role (took a deep step down in the finals though). Eric Snow and Aaron McKie were above average guards IMO.

[sejoon101]

The refs rigged the series to go an extra game. Come on, those foul calls were ATROCIOUS. And I'm not even a LeBron fan. I was watching at the bar thinking ... WOW, only a few other times have I seen such blatant rigging to extend profits, or influence a desired result. 2002 WCF, 2006 NBA Finals.

There are more than 1 game where Bran stat padded in garbage time to make his shiit look good. None of you guys bring up that when bringing up his raw stats. Only when Bran plays bad, is when we start looking at the game itself?
You can't have it both ways.

[Combat Wombat]

:biggums:

:facepalm

Did you even watch Kobe in 01?

Better question: Were you even following the NBA in 2001 because if you did, there's no way you would think that opinion is ridiculous?

[Derka]

Shaq scores 50 a night while Bosh quite simply menstruates at the sight of Prime Shaq.

[dubeta]

Tough, Lakers have the most dominant player, but heat have the next 3 best players (Bron, wade, bosh). So could go either way.

[Milbuck]

Kobe was putting up 29/7/6/2/1 on 56% TS with pretty nasty defense, it was his first year as a bonafide franchise player. To put it in perspective, Lebron put up 26/8/7/2/1 on 58% TS in last season's playoffs. Lebron's got the edge, but that version of Kobe is closer to Lebron than Durant is right now. He was just 22 years old but that was him at his athletic peak, an absolute nightmare to guard. He had the stamina and athleticism to play both sides of the floor at a high level, which is something he hasn't been able to do recently. That's too much for Wade to handle imo. Younger Wade would've done just fine, but 3 of the 4 years of the Big 3 we've had Wade as a shell of himself.

Then you have Shaq. He and Lebron would get theirs, but Shaq's impact would be far more devastating. It's a joke just thinking about Bosh or 6'8" Haslem trying to guard 2001 Shaq.

I'd give 2001 Kobe a clear-cut edge over any version of Wade in the Big 3 era, and Shaq a smaller edge over any version of Lebron in the Big 3 era. I say Lakers in 6 games, 7 if Wade and Lebron both have terrific series.

[Rubio2Gasol]

Lakers in 4
Spurs in 5
Sac-Town in 6
Portland in 7.

The Early 2000's Western Conference :bowdown:

Shaq would average 40 and 20 and Kobe would average 33/8/7 :lol

[eliteballer]

Heat get shook at the sight of George and Hibbert what the heck are they going to do with Kobe and Shaq?

[livinglegend]

Heat get shook at the sight of George and Hibbert what the heck are they going to do with Kobe and Shaq?

yeah, clearly.... this year s playoffs clearly proved your point :facepalm
another retard kobrick stan, what s new?

[Droid101]

Heat get shook at the sight of George and Hibbert what the heck are they going to do with Kobe and Shaq?
Lose in 4 games.

[Solefade]

shaq would give them too many problems,

would have loved to see a 22 year old lebron vs 22 year old kobe though

[JUDGE WITNESS]

the key here is shaq. heat have no center much less anybody that can guard shaq

[livinglegend]

the key here is shaq. heat have no center much less anybody that can guard shaq

and shaq wouldnt be able on guard anybody on Heat s starting 5.

[turnaroundJ]

shaq would give them too many problems,

would have loved to see a 22 year old lebron vs 22 year old kobe though

Bran didn't really become polished until 2008 or so

[AnaheimLakers24]

Lakers rape.
pretty much
:sleeping

[Solefade]

Bran didn't really become polished until 2008 or so


wasn't polished but still great

[NBAplayoffs2001]

wasn't polished but still great

About that 22 year old Lebron vs. 22 year old Kobe. Now that would be a great 1 v 1 game up to 21 in like Rucker Park in Harlem, that I would love to watch and drink a few beers while watching it.:cheers:

[shaq8u]

Better role players better superstars Lakers in 4.

2001 lakers are in the discussion for one of the best teams of all time.

2001 Lakers ran the triangle as well as any of the 90's bull's teams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTeXsiV-l5Q

[Da_Realist]

I don't know if the 2001 Lakers could beat this year's 2014 Heat team though. They might be the best playoff / Finals team we've seen from Miami during this run. Wade's healthy, LeBron isn't disappearing or underperforming.

Early 2000's Lakers are one of the best teams I've ever seen, dating back to the mid-80's. They could go into the playoffs against the best of the best and win it all. They had size, athleticism, intelligence, experience, intangibles, defense, shaq in the middle, kobe on the perimeter, guys that could knock down clutch baskets if Shaq or Kobe are doubled and the best coaching staff in the league. They are quite easily better than the Heat. C'mon Swish!

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Better role players better superstars Lakers in 4.

2001 lakers are in the discussion for one of the best teams of all time.

2001 Lakers ran the triangle as well as any of the 90's bull's teams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTeXsiV-l5Q

I've watched that video so many times.

:bowdown: .

Some of those passes by bryant to role players were sick (especially the few passed shaw in game 2 of the finals, by far his best postseason in terms of playmaking) and shaq was arguably more dominant in this playoffs than his MVP season.

P.s. he got robbed of a MVP in 2001.

[GimmeThat]

think about the possible coaches that came out of the 2001 squad.


just think about that.

[dajadeed]

That 2001 Lakers team swept 3 50 win teams in the West. They lost 1 game on their march to the title.

The Heat play sub .500 teams and haven't swept an entire playoffs in the east ever.

This Heat team is great. That Lakers team is all time great. That's the greatest playoffs run in the history of the NBA great. Very few teams can even realistically say they have a shot at beating them.

An elite center, an elite guard, great role players, great coaching. That team had no weakness. NONE.

[1987_Lakers]

An elite center, an elite guard, great role players, great coaching. That team had no weakness. NONE.

They were last in the league in FT%.:lol

But yea, amazing team. '01 Shaq & Kobe is the greatest duo of all time, better than any version of Jordan-Pippen.

[AintNoSunshine]

Shaq will have his way with this no center having Heat but if the Kings came so close then the Hear definitely have a shot without the rigging

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Shaq will have his way with this no center having Heat but if the Kings came so close then the Hear definitely have a shot without the rigging

This person clearly is a youngling. That series that was possibly rigged was in 2002. :coleman:

[Roundball_Rock]

Is there any great team from the past that the "stacked" Heat could beat? People even say the 2nd, 3rd, 4th best teams from various periods would demolish the Heat. Something does not compute. :lol

[AnaheimLakers24]

Is there any great team from the past that the "stacked" Heat could beat? People even say the 2nd, 3rd, 4th best teams from various periods would demolish the Heat. Something does not compute. :lol
why cant retarded heat fans grasp the fact that the team is called stacked in this shit era. no one says they are all time stacked. are you retarded?

[Indian guy]

Is there any great team from the past that the "stacked" Heat could beat? People even say the 2nd, 3rd, 4th best teams from various periods would demolish the Heat. Something does not compute. :lol

They're only "stacked" relative to their era, didn't you know? The league suddenly became watered down after July 8, 2010. The talent just evaporated. I'll take every single champion prior to that date over Miami in a 7 game series. And I've never seen anyone NOT do the same, particularly the most vocal "Miami is stacked!" community. They even pick non-champions "easily" over the Heat.

Stacked relative to their era. Never forget.

[Roundball_Rock]

They're only "stacked" relative to their era, didn't you know? The league suddenly became watered down after July 8, 2010. The talent just evaporated. I'll take every single champion prior to that date over Miami in a 7 game series. And I've never seen anyone NOT do the same, particularly the most vocal "Miami is stacked!" community. They even pick non-champions "easily" over the Heat.

Stacked relative to their era. Never forget.

:lol

How can they be extremely stacked relative to their era--yet be useless against every other great team from the past? As you suggested, the only way to make this logic work is if you believe the league magically is much, much weaker now than it was in 2010 or 1998, or whatever self-serving cut-off date is used. What evidence of this is there? Many of the players who played a decade ago are still in the league, as are many of the same coaches and GM's.

Moreover, if they are so extremely stacked why have they had three ECF or NBF series go to 7 games and how did they lose in 2011? Was Dallas even more stacked than them? :eek: