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SillyRabbit
05-11-2014, 09:21 PM
Kenny and Chuck: "Look at who won the game for the Clippers, a bench player: Darren Collison, who had 12 points in the quarter. There isn't a player on OKC other than Westbrook or Durant that has had 12 points in a quarter all season. Everyone knows that it's going to be one of those two guys taking a tough, contested shot."

Every analyst knows it, everyone on ISH knows it, everyone on Twitter knows it, all of the other teams in the NBA know it, but somehow Scott Brooks still doesn't know it.

STOP RUNNING ISO. RUN PLAYS FOR PLAYERS OTHER THAN WESTBROOK OR DURANT.

Mind = blown at how badly Doc outcoached Brooks this game.

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-11-2014, 09:22 PM
https://twitter.com/haralabob

Spittin truth. Brooks didnt put KD in any good spots what a fakkit:biggums: :biggums:

zoom17
05-11-2014, 09:22 PM
OKC choked.

Keno
05-11-2014, 09:23 PM
didn't reggie jackson have like 14 points in the 3rd quarter in durant's bailout game?

Jameerthefear
05-11-2014, 09:26 PM
didn't reggie jackson have like 14 points in the 3rd quarter in durant's bailout game?
pretty sure he did.

Akrazotile
05-11-2014, 09:27 PM
Kenny and Chuck: "Look at who won the game for the Clippers, a bench player: Darren Collison, who had 12 points in the quarter. There isn't a player on OKC other than Westbrook or Durant that has had 12 points in a quarter all season. Everyone knows that it's going to be one of those two guys taking a tough, contested shot."

Every analyst knows it, everyone on ISH knows it, everyone on Twitter knows it, all of the other teams in the NBA know it, but somehow Scott Brooks still doesn't know it.

STOP RUNNING ISO. RUN PLAYS FOR PLAYERS OTHER THAN WESTBROOK OR DURANT.

Mind = blown at how badly Doc outcoached Brooks this game.


OKCs other players cant score. Who are you going to run plays for? Fisher, Sefalosha, Adams, Perkins, Collison?

OKC doesnt have Crawford, Reddick, Baby, Collison. Its not like the Clippers ran plays for Crawford and Collison. They just scored bc theyre more dynamic offensively than the players OKC has. Wedgie Jackson is their only decent offensive bench option and hes obviously not a world beater.


If Scott Brooks was running plays for Fisher and Steven Adams youd be killing him then too. Remember when Durant was a "decoy"??? THAT was apparently all scott brooks wrong doing as well.


It literally does not matter what happens or what Brooks does, if the team loses he will get the blame. If he does A and the team loses, fans say he shoulda done B. If he does B and the team loses, he shoulda done A.


Nobody ever looks at the entire team. They just shortcut it and credit/blame the coach and the star because its easier. Theres more too it than that tho.

buddha
05-11-2014, 09:31 PM
didn't reggie jackson have like 14 points in the 3rd quarter in durant's bailout game?

this :facepalm

and who should Brooks run a play for? Perkins? Sefolosha? besides Reggie Jackson everyone else on the team is strictly a spot-up shooter.

[GR]
05-11-2014, 09:35 PM
this :facepalm

and who should Brooks run a play for? Perkins? Sefolosha? besides Reggie Jackson everyone else on the team is strictly a spot-up shooter.
This is where they miss harden. 4th quarter was his time. He also was on equal stature as KD and West, so they had no problem deferring. Their egos won't let Reggie go ISO down the stretch in a close game

T_L_P
05-11-2014, 09:38 PM
didn't reggie jackson have like 14 points in the 3rd quarter in durant's bailout game?

Yep. TNT are the worst "analysts" ever. :roll:

They're pretty funny though.

ProfessorMurder
05-11-2014, 09:39 PM
didn't reggie jackson have like 14 points in the 3rd quarter in durant's bailout game?

He couldn't possibly have been talking about regular season :rolleyes:

Jailblazers7
05-11-2014, 09:45 PM
Yep, totally Scott Brooks' fault that they have a poorly constructed team. He blows but it's not his fault that their bench doesn't have good scorers

PsychoBe
05-11-2014, 09:48 PM
OKCs other players cant score. Who are you going to run plays for? Fisher, Sefalosha, Adams, Perkins, Collison?

OKC doesnt have Crawford, Reddick, Baby, Collison. Its not like the Clippers ran plays for Crawford and Collison. They just scored bc theyre more dynamic offensively than the players OKC has. Wedgie Jackson is their only decent offensive bench option and hes obviously not a world beater.


If Scott Brooks was running plays for Fisher and Steven Adams youd be killing him then too. Remember when Durant was a "decoy"??? THAT was apparently all scott brooks wrong doing as well.


It literally does not matter what happens or what Brooks does, if the team loses he will get the blame. If he does A and the team loses, fans say he shoulda done B. If he does B and the team loses, he shoulda done A.


Nobody ever looks at the entire team. They just shortcut it and credit/blame the coach and the star because its easier. Theres more too it than that tho.

wrong.

okc is a very talented team. fisher and butler are great 3-point shooters. reggie can hit the 3 as well as drive to the basket. adams can actually finish at the rim. sefolosha has a nice jumper from time to time. ibaka should have more pick n roll opportunites (they freeze him out after the first quarter every game) he needs better looks and he should play center when they're going small to spread the floor out to take the shot-blocker out of the paint so durant and westbrook has more room to drive and kick.

the clippers have much better floor spacing than okc does.

that's part of their problem. poor floor spacing with no offensive sets and iso hero ball = a stagnant offensive that will always blow a lead.

if they had better floor spacing with actual plays (put durant in the post with shooters so that he can actually pass to someone open when he's doubled) and those players can make the extra pass to another open shooter as well.

defensively their rotations are just absolutely atrocious. they rely too much on ibaka to bail them out and they dont have a true man-defender. they rely too much on team defense which wont work at this level since players are more than capable of making you pay for over-committing to them.

scott brooks is just a terrible coach and doesn't know how to maximize the talent around him. he needs to go. okc has been together for 4 years and they look like the same team offensively now as they did in 2010, the only exception being the ascension of kd and westbrook as better players but they need a solid offensive system behind them to truly win.

SillyRabbit
05-11-2014, 09:50 PM
OKCs other players cant score. Who are you going to run plays for? Fisher, Sefalosha, Adams, Perkins, Collison?

OKC doesnt have Crawford, Reddick, Baby, Collison. Its not like the Clippers ran plays for Crawford and Collison. They just scored bc theyre more dynamic offensively than the players OKC has. Wedgie Jackson is their only decent offensive bench option and hes obviously not a world beater.


If Scott Brooks was running plays for Fisher and Steven Adams youd be killing him then too. Remember when Durant was a "decoy"??? THAT was apparently all scott brooks wrong doing as well.


It literally does not matter what happens or what Brooks does, if the team loses he will get the blame. If he does A and the team loses, fans say he shoulda done B. If he does B and the team loses, he shoulda done A.


Nobody ever looks at the entire team. They just shortcut it and credit/blame the coach and the star because its easier. Theres more too it than that tho.

Ibaka? Jackson? Butler?

Durant was getting double teamed at the elbow, they could've easily found an open shooter to get the ball to before Durant got trapped, but of course Brooks had already instructed Westbrook to eat half the clock dribbling before they even try to get into their sets.

And even if you INSIST on only running plays for Durant or Westbrook, then why not give it to Durant at the top of the key and let him ISO Paul face-to-face? He can easily shoot right over him. Why are you trying to have him post up in the high post?

How about running multiple screens for Durant? Or getting Collison to switch onto Durant? Nope, that's too much "coaching" for Brooks liking.

The problem with not utilizing your other players is that it doesn't space out the floor at all as the other 3 players on OKC don't even bother to stay involved in the play and the Clippers can cheat off of them with no consequence.

Ibaka was near perfect with his jump shot last game, and Butler was money in the 4th, and Jackson can create his own shots as well.

The coaching discrepancy in this series is the largest i've seen in a LONG time.

Thechosen1
05-11-2014, 09:50 PM
reverse jinx

Im so nba'd out
05-11-2014, 09:54 PM
OKCs other players cant score. Who are you going to run plays for? Fisher, Sefalosha, Adams, Perkins, Collison?

OKC doesnt have Crawford, Reddick, Baby, Collison. Its not like the Clippers ran plays for Crawford and Collison. They just scored bc theyre more dynamic offensively than the players OKC has. Wedgie Jackson is their only decent offensive bench option and hes obviously not a world beater.


If Scott Brooks was running plays for Fisher and Steven Adams youd be killing him then too. Remember when Durant was a "decoy"??? THAT was apparently all scott brooks wrong doing as well.


It literally does not matter what happens or what Brooks does, if the team loses he will get the blame. If he does A and the team loses, fans say he shoulda done B. If he does B and the team loses, he shoulda done A.


Nobody ever looks at the entire team. They just shortcut it and credit/blame the coach and the star because its easier. Theres more too it than that tho.
what

Dr.J4ever
05-12-2014, 12:42 AM
Bill Simmons called OKC's offense the "Clogged Toilet Offense". Simmons said: " You need a good plunger to run this offenses", which OKC does with Durant. :lol

ZMonkey11
05-12-2014, 01:28 AM
And when OKC was running plays for Reggie Jackson, other analysts were complaining "why would you run plays for RJ when you have KD and Westbrook?"

People complain, **** it.

JohnFreeman
05-12-2014, 01:40 AM
Superstars normally take over, but keep blaming the coach.

SilkkTheShocker
05-12-2014, 01:49 AM
this :facepalm

and who should Brooks run a play for? Perkins? Sefolosha? besides Reggie Jackson everyone else on the team is strictly a spot-up shooter.
So this argument works for KD in OKC but not Lebron in Cleveland?

russwest0
05-12-2014, 01:58 AM
The 4th quarter was bad from Brooks like usual, sure, but the 2nd quarter was atrocious. These Fisher/Butler lineups have been horrible all season (since acquiring Butler) and Brooks still has yet to adjust. Crawford scored like 4-5 times in a row on Butler and Brooks refused to adjust and put Thabo in until it was way too late and a 20 point lead was down to single digits. That was what cost OKC the game more than anything.

russwest0
05-12-2014, 02:03 AM
So this argument works for KD in OKC but not Lebron in Cleveland?

That argument doesn't work for LeBron in Cleveland? What? Who is saying that?

SillyRabbit
05-12-2014, 03:15 AM
The 4th quarter was bad from Brooks like usual, sure, but the 2nd quarter was atrocious. These Fisher/Butler lineups have been horrible all season (since acquiring Butler) and Brooks still has yet to adjust. Crawford scored like 4-5 times in a row on Butler and Brooks refused to adjust and put Thabo in until it was way too late and a 20 point lead was down to single digits. That was what cost OKC the game more than anything.

I almost forgot about that.

Butler was getting burned so badly by Crawford that it made Collison's defense on Westbrook look DPOY worthy.

Even Van Gundy was giving it to Brooks for failing to adjust.

ShackEelOKneel
05-12-2014, 03:20 AM
Mind = blown at how badly Doc outcoached Brooks this game.

Doc being a much better coach than Brooks isn't mind blowing.

JustinJDW
05-12-2014, 08:03 AM
Armchair coaching after the fact.

davehos
05-12-2014, 08:26 AM
No, Scott Brooks is trying to coach a team of chuckers.

When things get tough the play is to push the ball down the court and shoot the pull up j... this works nearly half the time because that's just how good Westbrook and Durant are at shooting.

I don't think this is entirely Scott Brooks fault. OKC is a product of simply having some fantastic athletes on the court and their coach just letting them play.

Spurs get the "boring tag" because they are methodical and to the opposite extreme OKC gets a lot more time in the press because of the "loose cannons" like Westbrook.

It is what it is. Don't over analyze it. Everyone is making money and that's truly what's important to the owners and the NBA.

Dresta
05-12-2014, 09:11 AM
This moron has already forgotten Reggie Jackson just so he can suck Durant's cawk. None of their roleplayers get shots because OKC doesn't play good team basketball, they just get Durant and Westbrook to take turns with iso ball. It's a bit like the 10-11 Miami Heat, before they learned to play together properly.

-Lebron23-
05-12-2014, 09:41 AM
Brooks looks like he spends half of the time he works on offensive schemes just thinking about how those schemes will impact defensive transition. If it was 100% up to him he'd just leave Perkins behind and let the rest of the team play 4v5.

-Funny thing is even with all that defensive bull$hit the Clippers were still raping OKC in the 4th. For a supposedly good defensive coach some of his adjustements were plain silly.

-Putting Durant on CP3 and switching the PnR was stupid.

-Somebody please explain why Ibaka was Perkins 2.0 in the 2nd half, dude got literally no touches after hitting his first 2 shots.

-When CP3 switched to Durant, Westbrook found himself being guarded by Collison, why didn't they run the offense through Westbrook in the post? He would have:

-abused the crap out of him
-kept Collison from creating quick offense.
-forced LAC to go big hence slowing down the game and making that CP3-Griffin PnR easier to defend.

Obviously the Thunder are who they are and aren't going to change now, they are going to struggle moving the ball and getting open shots but there is no excuse for your team to struggle mightily with decision making down the stretch when you have 2 top 6 players in the league, veterans and decent secondary scorers.

Teanett
05-12-2014, 11:06 AM
scott brooks is the white mike woodson