Bill "Hold My Pocket Wilt!" Russell appreciation thread

[TheMagicMan]

What more can I say :applause: 11x NBA champion, 5x MVP, 12x NBA All-Star, owner of Wilt's soul (among other things). The list goes on. Lettuce all take a moment and appreciate one of the greatest to ever do it :cheers:

http://oi58.tinypic.com/6hlrhf.jpg

[LAZERUSS]

Magic 5-3 margin over Bird


H2H's

Dumars 3-1 margin over Jordan

Michal Thompson 2-1 margin over Hakeem
Moses 2-0 margin over Kareem
Ainge 2-0 (6-0 in games) over Jordan
Webster 1-0 margin over KAJ
Sikma 1-0 margin over KAJ
Walton 1-0 margin over KAJ
Reed 1-0 margin over KAJ
Cowens 1-0 margin over KAJ

Look at the long list of losers above.

Who could ever picture Dumars just owning Jordan?

Dumars and Ainge just crushed a helpless Jordan.

Dumars and Ainge... GOATS.

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Deuce Bigalow]

Magic 5-3 margin over Bird


H2H's

Dumars 3-1 margin over Jordan

Michal Thompson 2-1 margin over Hakeem
Moses 2-0 margin over Kareem
Ainge 2-0 (6-0 in games) over Jordan
Webster 1-0 margin over KAJ
Sikma 1-0 margin over KAJ
Walton 1-0 margin over KAJ
Reed 1-0 margin over KAJ
Cowens 1-0 margin over KAJ

Look at the long list of losers above.

Who could ever picture Dumars just owning Jordan?

Dumars and Ainge just crushed a helpless Jordan.

Dumars and Ainge... GOATS.

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
http://i.imgur.com/CH42bFf.gif

[TheMagicMan]

Magic 5-3 margin over Bird


H2H's

Dumars 3-1 margin over Jordan

Michal Thompson 2-1 margin over Hakeem
Moses 2-0 margin over Kareem
Ainge 2-0 (6-0 in games) over Jordan
Webster 1-0 margin over KAJ
Sikma 1-0 margin over KAJ
Walton 1-0 margin over KAJ
Reed 1-0 margin over KAJ
Cowens 1-0 margin over KAJ

Look at the long list of losers above.

Who could ever picture Dumars just owning Jordan?

Dumars and Ainge just crushed a helpless Jordan.

Dumars and Ainge... GOATS.

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Wilt stans getting desperate :roll: :roll: :roll:

[LAZERUSS]

Wilt stans getting desperate :roll: :roll: :roll:

Dumars and Ainge were just as dominant against MJ as Russell was against Wilt. Hell, Jordan couldn't even win a game against the great Ainge in the post-season.

Again, just another moronic post started by Deuce (a.k.a. MagicMan.)

[cos88]

Magic 5-3 margin over Bird


H2H's

Dumars 3-1 margin over Jordan

Michal Thompson 2-1 margin over Hakeem
Moses 2-0 margin over Kareem
Ainge 2-0 (6-0 in games) over Jordan
Webster 1-0 margin over KAJ
Sikma 1-0 margin over KAJ
Walton 1-0 margin over KAJ
Reed 1-0 margin over KAJ
Cowens 1-0 margin over KAJ

Look at the long list of losers above.

Who could ever picture Dumars just owning Jordan?

Dumars and Ainge just crushed a helpless Jordan.

Dumars and Ainge... GOATS.

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Life 1-0 over you

[ArbitraryWater]

A supposed "Laker Fan" celebrating the Career of a Celtic while clowning another Laker.... Makes sense.

[TheMagicMan]

A supposed "Laker Fan" celebrating the Career of a Celtic while clowning another Laker.... Makes sense.

Homerism isn't my style :cheers:

[Done_And_Done]

Never in life utter the word lettuce again unless you're referring to the actual vegetable.

That is all..

[Deuce Bigalow]

Dumars and Ainge were just as dominant against MJ as Russell was against Wilt. Hell, Jordan couldn't even win a game against the great Ainge in the post-season.

Again, just another moronic post started by Deuce (a.k.a. MagicMan.)
I'm not the OP brah. My Wilt thread days are over.

[TheMagicMan]

Never in life utter the word lettuce again unless you're referring to the actual vegetable.

That is all..

What about "Done_And_Done is a huge fakkit"?

[sd3035]

Bill Russel had the body of Kevin Durant without the skills, yet he was a beast in that era :roll: :roll: :roll:

[LAZERUSS]

Bill Russel had the body of Kevin Durant without the skills, yet he was a beast in that era :roll: :roll: :roll:

I just completed the 115 Russell-Wilt H2H games from '60 thru '67:

Wilt outscored Russell by a 109-6-0 margin
Wilt outrebounded Russell by a 76-36-3 margin

Russell averaged 15.6 ppg, 24.4 rpg, and shot .382%
Wilt averaged 31.1 ppg, 28.6 rpg, and shot .495%.

There was only ONE beast in the Russell era, and it wasn't Russell. Not even close.

[Asukal]

:applause: :applause: :applause:

The real GOAT of the 60's! No empty stat padding, just won it all almost every season. :bowdown:

[Deuce Bigalow]

I just completed the 115 Russell-Wilt H2H games from '60 thru '67:

Wilt outscored Russell by a 109-6-0 margin
Wilt outrebounded Russell by a 76-36-3 margin

Russell averaged 15.6 ppg, 24.4 rpg, and shot .382%
Wilt averaged 31.1 ppg, 28.6 rpg, and shot .495%.

There was only ONE beast in the Russell era, and it wasn't Russell. Not even close.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/nba_35th_anniversary.html

As selected in 1980 through a poll by the Professional Basketball Writers Association of America.
Red Auerbach was selected as coach, Bill Russell was selected as the greatest player, and the 1966-67 Philadelphia 76ers were selected as the greatest team.

Bill: 11

Wilt: 2

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[TheMagicMan]

:applause: :applause: :applause:

The real GOAT of the 60's! No empty stat padding, just won it all almost every season. :bowdown:

Agreed :applause:

[TheMagicMan]

I just completed 115 Russell-Wilt H2H games from '60 thru '67:

Wilt outscored Russell by a 109-6-0 margin
Wilt outrebounded Russell by a 76-36-3 margin

Russell averaged 15.6 ppg, 24.4 rpg, and shot .382%
Wilt averaged 31.1 ppg, 28.6 rpg, and shot .495%.

There was only ONE beast in the Russell era, and it wasn't Russell. Not even close.

:facepalm

Go hug your grandchildren dude.

[Asukal]

I just completed the 115 Russell-Wilt H2H games from '60 thru '67:

Wilt outscored Russell by a 109-6-0 margin
Wilt outrebounded Russell by a 76-36-3 margin

Russell averaged 15.6 ppg, 24.4 rpg, and shot .382%
Wilt averaged 31.1 ppg, 28.6 rpg, and shot .495%.

There was only ONE beast in the Russell era, and it wasn't Russell. Not even close.

All these stats. :facepalm
One question doe... did you actually watch the games? :rolleyes:

[CelticBaller]

Magic 5-3 margin over Bird


H2H's

Dumars 3-1 margin over Jordan

Michal Thompson 2-1 margin over Hakeem
Moses 2-0 margin over Kareem
Ainge 2-0 (6-0 in games) over Jordan
Webster 1-0 margin over KAJ
Sikma 1-0 margin over KAJ
Walton 1-0 margin over KAJ
Reed 1-0 margin over KAJ
Cowens 1-0 margin over KAJ

Look at the long list of losers above.

Who could ever picture Dumars just owning Jordan?

Dumars and Ainge just crushed a helpless Jordan.

Dumars and Ainge... GOATS.

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
Grasping at straws :oldlol:

[cltcfn2924]

I just completed the 115 Russell-Wilt H2H games from '60 thru '67:

Wilt outscored Russell by a 109-6-0 margin
Wilt outrebounded Russell by a 76-36-3 margin

Russell averaged 15.6 ppg, 24.4 rpg, and shot .382%
Wilt averaged 31.1 ppg, 28.6 rpg, and shot .495%.

There was only ONE beast in the Russell era, and it wasn't Russell. Not even close.


And who won the chips?

[SexSymbol]

What more can I say :applause: 11x NBA champion, 5x MVP, 12x NBA All-Star, owner of Wilt's soul (among other things). The list goes on. Lettuce all take a moment and appreciate one of the greatest to ever do it :cheers:

http://oi58.tinypic.com/6hlrhf.jpg
I consider Bill Russell to be the goat.
Dominated his competition like nobody else wasn't even close as

[LAZERUSS]

And who won the chips?

The player who had the better team (albeit, Wilt almost beat him several times anyway.)

How about this?

http://www.celtic-nation.com/interviews/sam_jones/sam_jones_page1.htm

[QUOTE]

[stanlove1111]

The player who had the better team (albeit, Wilt almost beat him several times anyway.)

How about this?

http://www.celtic-nation.com/interviews/sam_jones/sam_jones_page1.htm



Or this...

http://www.realclearsports.com/lists/sports_broadcasting_calls/havlicek_johnny_most.html?state=stop



The reality was Wilt, playing with far inferior teammates, and with teammates that repeatedly puked all over the floor in their biggest games, lost FOUR game seven's to those CELTICS by margins of 2, 1, 4, and 2 points.

John Wooden said it best, ...had Wilt had Russell's rosters, and Auerbach for a coach, and it would have been Wilt holding all those rings.

Chamberlain DOMINATED Russell...plain-and-simple.

And yet Wilt had Russell like talent surrounding him from 65-73 and only won 2 titles..

I noticed one more time you posted their head to head stats but I didn't see defense in there which Russell is considered the greatest ever at..If defense is not there then its meaningless..


Also find it odd that you go on and on and on about Russell having better teammates but then list the stats like they mean something. IF you have better teammates shouldn't your stats be less then an opponents who has awful teammates like you try to say.

[AnaheimLakers24]

A supposed "Laker Fan" celebrating the Career of a Celtic while clowning another Laker.... Makes sense.
wipt is a choker loser like your boy. cost lakers some titles. **** him and his overrated ass

[MiseryCityTexas]

Dumars and Ainge were just as dominant against MJ as Russell was against Wilt. Hell, Jordan couldn't even win a game against the great Ainge in the post-season.

Again, just another moronic post started by Deuce (a.k.a. MagicMan.)


Dumars was still a good player after the Bad Boys broke up. Ainge became a one dimensional three point shooter after Bird retired.

[triangleoffense]

Robert Horry = GOAT of GOATS

[Marchesk]

Robert Horry = GOAT of GOATS

http://hoopsallday.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/horry.jpg

[LAZERUSS]

And yet Wilt had Russell like talent surrounding him from 65-73 and only won 2 titles..

I noticed one more time you posted their head to head stats but I didn't see defense in there which Russell is considered the greatest ever at..If defense is not there then its meaningless..


Also find it odd that you go on and on and on about Russell having better teammates but then list the stats like they mean something. IF you have better teammates shouldn't your stats be less then an opponents who has awful teammates like you try to say.

In Chamberlain's 64-65 season, he was traded mid-season to a Sixer team that had gone 34-46 the year before, and didn't even make the playoffs. He then single-handedly carried that rag-tag group past Oscar's loaded Royals in the first round of the playoffs, and then to a game seven, one point loss to Russell's HOF-laden 62-18 Celtics...in a series in which he absolutely DESTROYED Russell in every facet of the game. Swap those rosters and Wilt's Celtics likely would have won four straight games by 40+ point margins.

Wilt's 65-66 Sixers had to win their last 11 straight games to edge Russell's loaded Celtic roster by a single game (55-25 to 54-26.) However, take a close look at the games MISSED by the Celtic players that season. Russell missed two, Sanders missed eight, Havlicek missed nine, and Sam Jones missed 13. CLEARLY Boston had a better roster.

Incidently, Wilt's Sixers went 6-3 against Russell's Celtics during their regular season H2H's. And during the regular season, Wilt averged 28.3 ppg, 30.7 rpg, 4.2 apg, and shot .510 from the field against Boston. In the EDF's, Boston easily beat Philly, 4-1. Surely Wilt must have declined dramatically right? In the '66 EDF's, Wilt averaged 28.0 ppg, 30.2 rpg, 3.2 apg, and shot .509 from the field...or nearly IDENTICAL numbers to his regular season H2H's against Boston. So what happened? Wilt's TEAMMATES who had played reasonably well against Boston during their regular season H2H's, completely blew chunks all over the floor in every game of that series. Collectively, they shot...get this... .352 from the field. Sorry, you can't blame Wilt for that one, nor can you credit Russell, either, since, as always, he had his hands full trying to "contain" Wilt.

We already know that Wilt, with his teammates finally neutralizing Russell's teammates in the '67 EDF's, just annhilated Russell, and led his Sixers to an overwhelming 4-1 series win over the eight-time defending champions. Russell was helpless to stop the onslaught.


How about Wilt's 67-68 Sixers, who again ran away with the best record in the league? Well, the team that went 62-20 in the regular season, was nowhere near the same team that lost a game seven by four points to Boston in the EDF's. HOFer Billy Cunningham missed the entire series. And even without him, the Sixers were still good enough to forge a 3-1 series lead. However, Philly lost BOTH Luke Jackson and Wali Jones to injuries in game five (in a game in which Chamberlain just waxed Russell BTW.) So now with three key players either injured or not playing at all...AND, with Chamberlain nursing an assortment of injuries, and NOTICEABLY LIMPING throughout the series, Boston eked out a game seven, four point win.

Wilt's 68-69 Lakers? First of all, Chamberlain basically replaced Darrall Imhoff, Archie Clark, AND Gail Goodrich...and their 42 ppg and 18 rpg, by himself. Oh, and West missed his usual 21 games (still, LA went 12-9 in them without him.) The result? The Lakers had their best record in Los Angeles to date (which Chamberlain-led teams would shatter in a couple of years.) And with an incompetent coach shackling Wilt, and with Baylor "leading" his team, and by a good margin, with the WORST FG% on the roster, LA lost a game seven by two points (and with Wilt watching helplessly from the bench because of his stubborn coach.)

The 69-70 Lakers? You are kidding right? Chamberlain blew out his knee early in the season, and even the most optimistic medical opinion had him done for the rest of the year. Still, Chamberlain came back, SOLELY to HELP his teammates, WAY ahead of schedule, and despite being nowhere near 100%, he led them back from a 3-1 series deficit in the first round with three straight brilliant games (including a clinching game seven of 30 points, 27 rebounds, and 11 blocked shots. And then he took his 46-36 under-dog Lakers, and without HCA, to a game seven loss against the HOF-laden 60-22 Knicks, and in a series in which Wilt averaged 23.2 ppg, 24.1 rpg, and shot .625 from the field.

70-71? Oh really? Wilt's roster was equal to what Russell was accustomed to playing with? West missed the last fourth of the season AND the playoffs with an injury. And Baylor played TWO games early in the year, and did not play again. Wilt then single-handedly carried that team past the Bulls in the first round. Then, he valiantly outplayed Kareem in the WCF's, but alas, with virtually no help, his team lost 4-1.

71-72. Chamberlain, with a healthy roster and a great coach, took a team that had gone 48-34 the year before, to a then all-time record of 69-13, which included winning 33 straight games. In the playoffs and by accounts, he outplayed a peak Kareem in the WCF's, and led them past the defending champion and 63-19 Bucks. Then, in the Finals, and with West doing virtually nothing (West would shoot .325 in the Finals that season), Chamberlain dominated the Knicks, and led LA to their first-ever title in Los Angeles...en route to winning the FMVP.

72-73? Chamberlain led his Lakers to yet another 60 win season. Then, after Thurmond shutdown Kareem in the first round of the playoffs, and his 47-35 Warriors shocked KAJ's 60-22 Bucks, Chamberlain wiped the floor with Nate, and led his Lakers to an easy 4-1 series romp over that same Warrior team. However, with West again a no-show in the Finals, Wilt's Lakers lost four close games (all decided in the last minute) against a 56-26 Knicks team with SIX HOFers.

Kind of puts a different perspective on Wilt's ACTUAL supporting casts from "65-73" doesn't it.

Now, do us all a favor, and next time think twice before you make another uneducated and unresearched post, ok?