Lebron is at his best as the underdog. Watch out haters!

[livinglegend]

This year, they will be the underdogs in ECF ( if they play Indiana) and in the finals. Lebron is always at his best when he is in that position:

game 6 Celtics
2012 NBA finals
Bulls 2011

Watch out haters! LeUnderdog is coming!

[TheMarkMadsen]

you're kidding yourself if you think Lebron has been an underdog anytime after the decision

[game3524]

The Heat aren't the underdogs doe.:confusedshrug:

[navy]

you're kidding yourself if you think Lebron has been an underdog anytime after the decision
2012 NBA finals

I want to say 2011 playoffs outside the MAvericks and Sixers series. But I cant find the spreads.

[rlsmooth775]

This is true

[Rocketswin2013]

Yeah I couldn't care less for LeBron but this dude is truly great and has been conserving himself all season.


Woudn't be surprised if he rolfstomped the East this playoff season.

[sketchy]

Best as an underdog... when the pressure's at it's lowest. Imagine that.

[livinglegend]

you're kidding yourself if you think Lebron has been an underdog anytime after the decision

game 6 against Celtics. Everyone expected him to lose.
2012 finals, most thought they couldnt win against OKC.
2011, after MVP Rose and the Bulls blew them away in game 1, most had Bulls winning the series.

[WWRWestbrookDo?]

This year, they will be the underdogs in ECF ( if they play Indiana) and in the finals. Lebron is always at his best when he is in that position:

game 6 Celtics
2012 NBA finals
Bulls 2011

Watch out haters! LeUnderdog is coming!

nice title idiot.

[ImKobe]

Please. The Heat have been the favorites every year since the big 3 was formed. They are the favorites to win it all even if they don't have the 1st seed because of the hype for Lebron.

Miami could have been knocked out twice last year, but their HCA really helped them win the ECF & the Finals. Imagine if they played Game 6 & 7 at San Antonio while being down 2-3 after Game 5, or playing a Game 7 in Indiana.

The Heat have been much worse than last year, & Lebron really hasn't looked like his old self athletically & his defense has been garbage. Miami's defense was what made them so good, all the free transition points off forced turnovers. Now, any average PG can run by Lebron & Wade can barely play this season with his health issues.

[BlackVVaves]

Indiana must only the favorites in the eyes of Heat fans. Cause the rest of us that have witnessed the Pacers do their best Bobcats impression post January know its unlikely they win more than 2 games if they even make it to ECF to face Bron and co.

[navy]

Please. The Heat have been the favorites every year since the big 3 was formed. .
Why do people keep lying. The Heat were not the favorites in 2012. :facepalm

[zoom17]

you're kidding yourself if you think Lebron has been an underdog anytime after the decision

2012 Finals

[sd3035]

Is that why he couldn't do shit until he was heavily favored to win it all?

[Budadiiii]

Best as an underdog... when the pressure's at it's lowest. Imagine that.
OP isn't bright enough to realize this is a negative against LeBron.

We already know LeBron only plays well when there is no pressure. It's why he joined Wade/Bosh in the weakest conference of all time. He took the easiest possible route for any superstar ever and still has needed miracle after miracle just to get a couple cheap rings.

LeBron has to embrace the underdog role to 3peat? Yikes....

He's such an embarrassing competitor. Will always be remembered as someone who struggled with pressure and someone who could never shake his mental block....

But GOAT, though.

[Budadiiii]

Is that why he couldn't do shit until he was heavily favored to win it all?
:roll:

2011 he was more favored than ever and produced the biggest choke job of all time..

OP may be on to something. LeBron can't handle pressure or expectations.

[Railgun]

2012 Finals
^^^

[CelticBaller]

How the **** were the heat the underdogs in 2012?

Are you people crazy? :oldlol:

[Solefade]

no one was giving any team from ECF a chance in 2012, but it's okay just completely ignore this

[secund2nun]

you're kidding yourself if you think Lebron has been an underdog anytime after the decision

You are incorrect on that. Not only did majority of fans pick OKC to beat Miami in nearly every online poll, but Vegas also picked OKC as favorites over Miami.

Also while Miami has not started out in any series as underdogs aside from the 2012 finals, they have shifted to underdogs at least once. In 2012 vs Indy the Pacers lead 2-1, Bosh was out for the entire series aside from game 1, Wade was injured, and the Pacers led by double digits at the half in game 4 but they ended up winning the series.

In the 2012 ECF once Miami was down 3-2 most people picked Boston to finish off Miami.

[Solefade]

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/19332621/nba-finals-thunder-favored-by-vegas-oddsmakers :confusedshrug:

[chazzy]

I don't understand Bron stans. They've been shitting on the Pacers lately, and now want to claim their team won't be favored against them?

[Railgun]

How the **** were the heat the underdogs in 2012?

Are you people crazy? :oldlol:
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2012/matchup/_/teams/thunder-heat

[J Shuttlesworth]

http://i.imgur.com/p0PQcWe.png

[secund2nun]

How the **** were the heat the underdogs in 2012?

Are you people crazy? :oldlol:

They were underdogs in 2012 vs OKC by both fan vote on nearly every online poll including ESPN.com but also underdogs by Vegas which favored OKC over Miami. Those are facts.

[Solefade]

Best as an underdog... when the pressure's at it's lowest. Imagine that.


cus game 6 2012 ECF had 0 pressure :rolleyes:

[CelticBaller]

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/19332621/nba-finals-thunder-favored-by-vegas-oddsmakers :confusedshrug:
So? They had Lakers beating the Celtics years ago, and no way in hell were the big 3 Celtics an underdog

[Rocketswin2013]

http://i.imgur.com/p0PQcWe.png
bump

[secund2nun]

cus game 6 2012 ECF had 0 pressure :rolleyes:

LOL sketchy being called out for his clownish incorrect statement. Game 6 2012 vs Boston is probably the most pressure game on a player in NBA history.

[zoom17]

http://i.imgur.com/p0PQcWe.png

Broussard was even against the Heat:oldlol:

[secund2nun]

http://i.imgur.com/p0PQcWe.png

Thanks. Saved for future ownage on posters who ignore facts and rewrite history.

[CelticBaller]

http://i.imgur.com/p0PQcWe.png
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/347412/seriespicks.JPG
And no way in hell someone would tell you the Celtics team were the underdogs :coleman:

[J Shuttlesworth]

:

OP may be on to something. LeBron can't handle pressure or expectations.
Interesting point. Could you post some more data on this? For example, how is LeBron in elimination games? Also, lets go even clutcher and higher pressure. How about game 7 of the NBA finals? Hell even playoff game 7 numbers would be interesting. I want to see what kind of numbers a choker puts up under pressure.

[red1]

Is that why he couldn't do shit until he was heavily favored to win it all?
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1199581/kdsad.gif

[LWBMIA]

I remember so many haters and OKC bandwagon supporters posting this photo before the Finals.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5e9yfXmzb1rpznnqo1_500.jpg?

[CelticBaller]

And how come lebron took the underdog cavaliers to the finals and got anally raped by the spurs?

I though he performed better as an underdog?

[JT123]

Please. The Heat have been the favorites every year since the big 3 was formed.
Blatant lies. Your Lakers were still the favorites going into the 2011 playoffs, until Kobe's epic choke job that is. :oldlol: Most people didn't even have the Heat beating Boston in 2011, but Leunderdog overcame the odds and beat a team stacked with future Hall of Famers in just 5 games. :bowdown: Let's not even mention 2012, when after the Heat lost game 1 of the Finals people were already talking about the Heat getting swept! :coleman:

[zoom17]

And how come lebron took the underdog cavaliers to the finals and got anally raped by the spurs?

I though he performed better as an underdog?

not even Jordan with that cavs team beats spurs team your trying to hard:oldlol:

[secund2nun]

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/347412/seriespicks.JPG
And no way in hell someone would tell you the Celtics team were the underdogs :coleman:

They didn't start out underdogs. No one can deny that, but after game 5 Boston was up 3-2 and the Heat then shifted to underdogs.

[Solefade]

And how come lebron took the underdog cavaliers to the finals and got anally raped by the spurs?

I though he performed better as an underdog?


in a thread discussing about miami heat






starts talking about cavs :oldlol:

[J Shuttlesworth]

And how come lebron took the underdog cavaliers to the finals and got anally raped by the spurs?

I though he performed better as an underdog?
Come on man. Nobody could win with that cast. We all know LeBron is mentally very difference since 2011. Something obviously changed after they lost tot he mavs. Bringing up stuff from the past is irrelevant. Since 2011, there's no denying LeBron has performed huge with his back against the wall

[Genaro]

In 2012 they were the underdogs in the Finals cause everyone was expecting Lebron to choke in some point. They were clearly better than OKC though.

And in the ECF no one gave Celtics a chance before the series (Heat had beatten them 4x1 in 2011) but yeah after they took the 3x2 lead and had game 6 at home most people thought they could close the series. That's only the obvious.

[CelticBaller]

Most people didn't even have the Heat beating Boston in 2011,
http://rapradar.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/mj-gif.gif

[Rocketswin2013]

not even Jordan beats that spurs team your trying to hard:oldlol:
Jordan's three-peat Bulls probably breat that team in 6 games max.


Before Phil Jackson came I agree though.

[Solefade]

In 2012 they were the underdogs in the Finals cause everyone was expecting Lebron to choke in some point. They were clearly better than OKC though.




cus harden, ibaka, KD, WB is CLEARLY better than an injured wade and chris bosh and starting center joel anthony :oldlol:




get that garbage out of here

[secund2nun]

And how come lebron took the underdog cavaliers to the finals and got anally raped by the spurs?

I though he performed better as an underdog?

Because there are limits. He can't beat the Spurs with the trash Cavs and Mike Brown let alone as a 22 year old. Beating Detroit was extremely impressive.

Speaking of underdogs I can bet that you as a Celtics fan were celebrating winning the 2012 Eastern Conference title after game 5....then Lebron crushed your hopes.

45-15-5 game 6 still mad? :roll:

[CelticBaller]

in a thread discussing about miami heat






starts talking about cavs :oldlol:

Lebron is at his best as the underdog. Watch out haters!
a thread about LeBron, dumbass

[J Shuttlesworth]

http://rapradar.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/mj-gif.gif
Wasn't unanimous though
http://i.imgur.com/fPXWOK7.png

But there's no denying that you become an underdog when you're down 3-2

[JT123]

cus harden, ibaka, KD, WB is CLEARLY better than an injured wade and chris bosh and starting center joel anthony :oldlol:




get that garbage out of here
:oldlol: Don't do that to him. :cheers:

[BlackVVaves]

not even Jordan with that cavs team beats spurs team your trying to hard:oldlol:

How the **** did you come to this jaded conclusion :roll:

Edit: Misread, thought post deemed a Jordan led Bulls team unfit to beat the Spurs. Carry on, carry on.

[livinglegend]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266844
:oldlol: :oldlol:

In that thread, all Lebron haters were laughing at the idea of Heat beating OKC in the finals 2012, now, they say Heat wasnt the underdog. :lol :lol
Exposed, losers!

[CelticBaller]

Wasn't unanimous though
http://i.imgur.com/fPXWOK7.png

But there's no denying that you become an underdog when you're down 3-2
2011

[Uncle Drew]

Wasn't he the underdog in the 07' finals? How did that work out for him?

[Solefade]

a thread about LeBron, dumbass


with context my dude, we're talking about a miami heat lebron not a cleveland lebron.. how are you gonna compare a cavs team to a miami team? lebron so good he tricked everyone into thinkign you had a chance to win a championship with mo williams as 2nd option and mike brown as head coach :roll:

[J Shuttlesworth]

2011
I thought you were talking about 2011

[CelticBaller]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266844
:oldlol: :oldlol:

In that thread, all Lebron haters were laughing at the idea of Heat beating OKC in the finals 2012, now, they say Heat wasnt the underdog. :lol :lol
Exposed, losers!
Yes, because the ISH demographic of lebron haters and thunder fans is a great source

[J Shuttlesworth]

Wait, you were talking about 2011 :coleman:

http://i.imgur.com/Jg6q8nT.png

[CelticBaller]

I thought you were talking about 2011
I thought that was the 2012 picks, sorry :cheers:

[Solefade]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266844
:oldlol: :oldlol:

In that thread, all Lebron haters were laughing at the idea of Heat beating OKC in the finals 2012, now, they say Heat wasnt the underdog. :lol :lol
Exposed, losers!


classic thread...MODS PLS UNLOCK

[zoom17]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266844
:oldlol: :oldlol:

In that thread, all Lebron haters were laughing at the idea of Heat beating OKC in the finals 2012, now, they say Heat wasnt the underdog. :lol :lol
Exposed, losers!

Many posters got exposed in that thread:oldlol:

[CelticBaller]

Because there are limits. He can't beat the Spurs with the trash Cavs and Mike Brown let alone as a 22 year old. Beating Detroit was extremely impressive.

Speaking of underdogs I can bet that you as a Celtics fan were celebrating winning the 2012 Eastern Conference title after game 5....then Lebron crushed your hopes.

45-15-5 game 6 still mad? :roll:
I'm a heat fan

[livinglegend]

OP isn't bright enough to realize this is a negative against LeBron.

We already know LeBron only plays well when there is no pressure. It's why he joined Wade/Bosh in the weakest conference of all time. He took the easiest possible route for any superstar ever and still has needed miracle after miracle just to get a couple cheap rings.

LeBron has to embrace the underdog role to 3peat? Yikes....

He's such an embarrassing competitor. Will always be remembered as someone who struggled with pressure and someone who could never shake his mental block....

But GOAT, though.

Dumbass, underdog doesnt mean no pressure. Game 6 vs Celtics, he was the underdog, still, he had the most pressure that a player had in the modern era of sports.
Look at this loser with his IQ lower than DRose talking about rationalising.

[sketchy]

LOL sketchy being called out for his clownish incorrect statement. Game 6 2012 vs Boston is probably the most pressure game on a player in NBA history.
I never said Lebron never faced pressure. I was pointing out the terrible logic of OP. Being at your best when there's no pressure shouldn't be something to be proud of. You guys sure love to twist things.

I agree, that was one of the biggest must-win games ever. Lebron single handedly beat my C's, it was unreal. But the Heat were heavily, HEAVILY favored to win that series before it started.

[Railgun]

Damn so much ether in that thread :roll:

[CelticBaller]

"Underdogs"

http://kwout.com/cutout/c/d7/gd/c36_bor_rou_sha.jpg

its shifted when they went down 3-2, but it didnt happen when they backdoor swept the thunder? :roll:

[Trollsmasher]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266844
:oldlol: :oldlol:

In that thread, all Lebron haters were laughing at the idea of Heat beating OKC in the finals 2012, now, they say Heat wasnt the underdog. :lol :lol
Exposed, losers!
:roll:

[Rodmantheman]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266844
:oldlol: :oldlol:

In that thread, all Lebron haters were laughing at the idea of Heat beating OKC in the finals 2012, now, they say Heat wasnt the underdog. :lol :lol
Exposed, losers!

:lol

[secund2nun]

I never said Lebron never faced pressure. I was pointing out the terrible logic of OP. Being at your best when there's no pressure shouldn't be something to be proud of. You guys sure love to twist things.

I agree, that was one of the biggest must-win games ever. Lebron single handedly beat my C's, it was unreal. But the Heat were heavily, HEAVILY favored to win that series before it started.

Lebron is at his best when there is pressure. This is where you are incorrect by stating he is at his best when there is no pressure. It is the opposite. I am not twisting anything I am just refuting your statement.

Underdog favorite it doesn't matter game 6 had intense amount of pressure on Lebron, most people expected them to lose, and Lebron had a historic game.

Also down 2-1 vs Indy in 2012 Bosh out Wade injured Lebron delivered again in game 4 which had intense pressure. He had a 40-18-9 game.

Also game 7 of last year's finals was a high pressure game and he dominated 37-12-4. Game 7 vs Indy in the ECF last year? Dominated again 32-8-4 on 17 shots.

Elimination games are the biggest pressure games around and Lebron is the best elimination player. There is no pressure in game 1. There is pressure in game 6,7 and elimination games.

[J Shuttlesworth]

"Underdogs"

http://kwout.com/cutout/c/d7/gd/c36_bor_rou_sha.jpg

its shifted when they went down 3-2, but it didnt happen when they backdoor swept the thunder? :roll:
They started out as favorites in the Boston series, and it shifted yes. Once it shifted, LeBron went nuts.

They started out the Thunder series as the underdog until they took the 2-1 lead.

I'm just confused what point you're trying to make. It seems like you're just arguing over the semantics of how we're using underdog. Are you denying that LeBron hasn't played great with his back against the wall the last couple of years? Whether you were technically considered the underdog or not, there's no denying that he has balled his ass off in the highest pressure games of the last couple of years

[secund2nun]

"Underdogs"

http://kwout.com/cutout/c/d7/gd/c36_bor_rou_sha.jpg

its shifted when they went down 3-2, but it didnt happen when they backdoor swept the thunder? :roll:


They were underdogs in the beginning of the OKC series and at the end of the Boston series. It's not complicated.

Either way your statement saying they were not underdogs in 2012 was wrong. Boston or OKC or both...either way they were underdogs in 2012 at one point and you are wrong.

[Ronaldinho]

Lebron is at his best when there is pressure. This is where you are incorrect by stating he is at his best when there is no pressure. It is the opposite. I am not twisting anything I am just refuting your statement.

Underdog favorite it doesn't matter game 6 had intense amount of pressure on Lebron, most people expected them to lose, and Lebron had a historic game.

Also down 2-1 vs Indy in 2012 Bosh out Wade injured Lebron delivered again in game 4 which had intense pressure. He had a 40-18-9 game.

Also game 7 of last year's finals was a high pressure game and he dominated 37-12-4. Game 7 vs Indy in the ECF last year? Dominated again 32-8-4 on 17 shots.

Elimination games are the biggest pressure games around and Lebron is the best elimination player. There is no pressure in game 1. There is pressure in game 6,7 and elimination games.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :applause:

[J Shuttlesworth]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :applause:
Some of the greatest games of his career have been the highest pressure games of his life

[CelticBaller]

They started out as favorites in the Boston series, and it shifted yes. Once it shifted, LeBron went nuts.

They started out the Thunder series as the underdog until they took the 2-1 lead.

I'm just confused what point you're trying to make. It seems like you're just arguing over the semantics of how we're using underdog. Are you denying that LeBron hasn't played great with his back against the wall the last couple of years? Whether you were technically considered the underdog or not, there's no denying that he has balled his ass off in the highest pressure games of the last couple of years
Heat were never underdogs, ever since the big 3 they we're championship contenders, just like the spurs are never considered underdogs :coleman:

[sketchy]

Lebron is at his best when there is pressure. This is where you are incorrect by stating he is at his best when there is no pressure. It is the opposite. I am not twisting anything I am just refuting your statement.

Underdog favorite it doesn't matter game 6 had intense amount of pressure on Lebron, most people expected them to lose, and Lebron had a historic game.

Also down 2-1 vs Indy in 2012 Bosh out Wade injured Lebron delivered again in game 4 which had intense pressure. He had a 40-18-9 game.

Also game 7 of last year's finals was a high pressure game and he dominated 37-12-4. Game 7 vs Indy in the ECF last year? Dominated again 32-8-4 on 17 shots.

Elimination games are the biggest pressure games around and Lebron is the best elimination player. There is no pressure in game 1. There is pressure in game 6,7 and elimination games.
Dude... you don't have to explain it to me. I get it. I was mocking OP. I know Lebron is routinely good in elimination games. :face palm Like you said, he historically took over and dominated against my Celtics in game 6. Think I wasn't watching?

[Ronaldinho]

Some of the greatest games of his career have been the highest pressure games of his life
Sure, like every legend he has great moments. He still isnt known for been a guy who plays better under pressure. Please...

[J Shuttlesworth]

Heat were never underdogs, ever since the big 3 they we're championship contenders, just like the spurs are never considered underdogs :coleman:
That's an opinion, but it doesn't factually follow. I showed you an instance where the Heat were considered underdogs against the Thunder. There's also no denying that the Celtics were favored to win when they were up 3-2 ,and the LeBron went nuts.

Curious though.. if San Antonio can never be underdogs, who was favored to win last year? You're telling me they weren't underdogs against the 27 win streak Heat? And if the Heat and Spurs can never be underdogs, who is considered the favorite to win if they face each other in the finals this year?

[sketchy]

With everything I've said so far, I will go on record saying that going into every season and postseason since the Heat's Big 3 have come together, they have been considered the favorites to win it all. That obviously has changed back and forth throughout each playoffs, but regardless I don't think there's ever been a point after his rookie season where any expert has thought Lebron, personally, was an underdog or overmatched.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Sure, like every legend he has great moments. He still isnt known for been a guy who plays better under pressure. Please...
You have to live in the past to have that opinion. 2011 is obviously what you are referring to and he's changed since then. The 4 highest pressure games of the last couple of years have all resulted in 30-45 pts

[J Shuttlesworth]

With everything I've said so far, I will go on record saying that going into every season and postseason since the Heat's Big 3 have come together, they have been considered the favorites to win it all. That obviously has changed back and forth throughout each playoffs, but regardless I don't think there's ever been a point after his rookie season where any expert has thought Lebron, personally, was an underdog or overmatched.
I can agree with this, but to say he's performed poorly under pressure since 2011 is simply wrong.

[sketchy]

I think someone already said it but I feel like we're moving too far towards arguing semantics. Lol.

[sketchy]

I can agree with this, but to say he's performed poorly under pressure since 2011 is simply wrong.
I agree, he's performed well under pressure since at least 2012. I remember a lot of times in 2011 where he would fold in close games and Wade was their closer. Completely different story now.

[secund2nun]

Sure, like every legend he has great moments. He still isnt known for been a guy who plays better under pressure. Please...

Yes he is. His elimination game performances speak for itself.

[CelticBaller]

That's an opinion, but it doesn't factually follow. I showed you an instance where the Heat were considered underdogs against the Thunder. There's also no denying that the Celtics were favored to win when they were up 3-2 ,and the LeBron went nuts.

Curious though.. if San Antonio can never be underdogs, who was favored to win last year? You're telling me they weren't underdogs against the 27 win streak Heat? And if the Heat and Spurs can never be underdogs, who is considered the favorite to win if they face each other in the finals this year?
An underdog isn't the less favored team, an underdog were teams like 2011 Mavs, a team many predicted to be bounced very early in the playoffs and that no one had as the champions

There isn't a need for an underdog in a series, 08, would you consider any of the 2 teams in the finals an underdog? 3 All Stars Vs the team the #1 seed and the MVP?

[secund2nun]

I agree, he's performed well under pressure since at least 2012. I remember a lot of times in 2011 where he would fold in close games and Wade was their closer. Completely different story now.

In the 2011 finals he did, but against 2011 Chicago Lebron hit tons of big 4th quarter shots. Lebron has consistently been a top 4th quarter performer RS and PO.

[sketchy]

An underdog isn't the less favored team, an underdog were teams like 2011 Mavs, a team many predicted to be bounced very early in the playoffs and that no one had as the champions

There isn't a need for an underdog in a series, 08, would you consider any of the 2 teams in the finals an underdog? 3 All Stars Vs the team the #1 seed and the MVP?
^^ This. An underdog appearing in a Finals series rarely happens.

[Black and White]

Ahhh man, this board will never change, some of you LeBron stans are so insecure, its not even funny anymore, its getting pathetic, let it go, the playoffs are starting soon.

[secund2nun]

An underdog isn't the less favored team, an underdog were teams like 2011 Mavs, a team many predicted to be bounced very early in the playoffs and that no one had as the champions

There isn't a need for an underdog in a series, 08, would you consider any of the 2 teams in the finals an underdog? 3 All Stars Vs the team the #1 seed and the MVP?


CelticBaller: "OKC in 6".............6/9/12


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266944

[Ronaldinho]

You have to live in the past to have that opinion. 2011 is obviously what you are referring to and he's changed since then. The 4 highest pressure games of the last couple of years have all resulted in 30-45 pts
No, i dont. Like i said, having great games is different from being a guy who plays better under pressure. He isnt the type of guy who plays better under pressure, wtf.

[CelticBaller]

CelticBaller: "OKC in 6".............6/9/12


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266944
I had OKC in 6 when they were down 3-1

/trolling

[secund2nun]

I had OKC in 6 when they were down 3-1

/trolling

You made that post on June 9th 2012 which was 3 days before the series even began.

[J Shuttlesworth]

An underdog isn't the less favored team, an underdog were teams like 2011 Mavs, a team many predicted to be bounced very early in the playoffs and that no one had as the champions

There isn't a need for an underdog in a series, 08, would you consider any of the 2 teams in the finals an underdog? 3 All Stars Vs the team the #1 seed and the MVP?
Once again, just semantics. I don't disagree with you. Heat aren't underdogs unless consider it to be in a series where they're down. I see your point, but that's just your personal definition of an underdog. Some might have considered the Spurs to be the underdog last year since the Heat were best record in the league, defending champs, and 27 game win streak. The odds for betting would agree that Spurs were underdogs too. Your personal definition is different than mine, but I get what you're saying.

But the point livinglegend is trying to make is that LeBron has performed well when the pressure has been on (Game 6 against Boston, game 7 indy, game 7 spurs, etc). I just want to make sure you don't disagree with that point.

[CelticBaller]

You made that post on June 9th 2012 which was 3 days before the series even began.
Keep checking ive never changed my pick

[J Shuttlesworth]

No, i dont. Like i said, having great games is different from being a guy who plays better under pressure. He isnt the type of guy who plays better under pressure, wtf.
You're not posting any facts to make your case. Show us some stats. Which high pressure games has he folded since 2011? You're just saying "he's not the type of guy..." Nobody cares about blanket statements like that. Show us some damn facts to prove your point. The highest pressure games of the last few years have been brought up already

Game 6 - Boston down 3-2 - 45 pts 18 reb
Game 7 - Indy - 32 pts, 8 reb, 4 ast
Game 4 - Indy (2012, down 2-1, no Bosh) - 40 pts, 18 reb, 9 ast
Game 7 - finals Spurs - 37 pts, 12 reb, 4 ast

These are the highest pressure games I can think of. Which performances are you talking about that could possibly offset these performances? Those are as high pressure as I can imagine since 2011.

[DMV2]

How the **** were the heat the underdogs in 2012?

Are you people crazy? :oldlol:
A lot of people already posted the ESPN picks but even here on ISH a lot of people here picked OKC before Game 1, including myself.

I thought Ibaka, Collison, Perks would have been a huge factor inside but then Bosh single-handedly outperformed them nearly every game. OKC frontcourt got exposed!

[JT123]

You're not posting any facts to make your case. Show us some stats. Which high pressure games has he folded since 2011? You're just saying "he's not the type of guy..." Nobody cares about blanket statements like that. Show us some damn facts to prove your point. The highest pressure games of the last few years have been brought up already

Game 6 - Boston down 3-2 - 45 pts 18 reb
Game 7 - Indy - 32 pts, 8 reb, 4 ast
Game 4 - Indy (2012, down 2-1, no Bosh) - 40 pts, 18 reb, 9 ast
Game 7 - finals Spurs - 37 pts, 12 reb, 4 ast

These are the highest pressure games I can think of. Which performances are you talking about that could possibly offset these performances? Those are as high pressure as I can imagine since 2011.
Why do you bother responding to posters like him. He is obviously a mindless sheep who has been brainwashed by Skip Bayless and others in the media.

[AnaheimLakers24]

OP isn't bright enough to realize this is a negative against LeBron.

We already know LeBron only plays well when there is no pressure. It's why he joined Wade/Bosh in the weakest conference of all time. He took the easiest possible route for any superstar ever and still has needed miracle after miracle just to get a couple cheap rings.

LeBron has to embrace the underdog role to 3peat? Yikes....

He's such an embarrassing competitor. Will always be remembered as someone who struggled with pressure and someone who could never shake his mental block....

But GOAT, though.
:applause: :applause:
:lebroncry: :lebroncry: :lebroncry: :lebroncry:

[secund2nun]

Keep checking ive never changed my pick

Yes you never changed your OKC in 6 pick. You had Miami as the underdogs, yet you claim OKC was the underdog lol.

[Ronaldinho]

You're not posting any facts to make your case. Show us some stats. Which high pressure games has he folded since 2011? You're just saying "he's not the type of guy..." Nobody cares about blanket statements like that. Show us some damn facts to prove your point. The highest pressure games of the last few years have been brought up already

Game 6 - Boston down 3-2 - 45 pts 18 reb
Game 7 - Indy - 32 pts, 8 reb, 4 ast
Game 4 - Indy (2012, down 2-1, no Bosh) - 40 pts, 18 reb, 9 ast
Game 7 - finals Spurs - 37 pts, 12 reb, 4 ast

These are the highest pressure games I can think of. Which performances are you talking about that could possibly offset these performances? Those are as high pressure as I can imagine since 2011.
For christ sake, i'm not saying he is a terrible player under pressure. Of course he has great moments. All I'm saying he isnt a guy who is known for be better under pressure. When the game is on the line, a lot of ppl wouldnt choose Lebron James. He's the type of guy who pass the ball in the last second.

[J Shuttlesworth]

For christ sake, i'm not saying he is a terrible player under pressure. Of course he has great moments. All I'm saying he isnt a guy who is known for be better under pressure. When the game is on the line, a lot of ppl wouldnt choose Lebron James. He's the type of guy who pass the ball in the last second.
:facepalm I gave you a chance to refute, but you didn't. You just kept going with meaningless statements like "he isn't a guy known for being great under pressure". Whether it's known or not, the stats point to the fact that he's great under pressure, and you're still living in 2011 with this shit.

[eSOL]

Wow the post by ForeverHeat on the last page.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266844&page=8

Dat ETHER

[Ronaldinho]

:facepalm I gave you a chance to refute, but you didn't. You just kept going with meaningless statements like "he isn't a guy known for being great under pressure". Whether it's known or not, the stats point to the fact that he's great under pressure, and you're still living in 2011 with this shit.
First of all, he is better under pressure than he is playing a normal game? Because that was what i was laughing about, and thats what the guy said.

Second of all, his career didnt began in 2011. Like i said, he has good moments, but he has a plenty of bad moments when the game was on the line. Game 6 he was saved by Ray Ray with a miraclous shot, after losing a three, despite having a good 4th quarter, i give him that. If he loses he would be known as a chocker who cant deal with pressure, am i wrong? And OT he didnt played very well too.

[CelticBaller]

Yes you never changed your OKC in 6 pick. You had Miami as the underdogs, yet you claim OKC was the underdog lol.
/trolling

[livinglegend]

CelticBaller: "OKC in 6".............6/9/12


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266944


:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Another one exposed! :applause: :applause: :applause:

[J Shuttlesworth]

First of all, he is better under pressure than he is playing a normal game? Because that was what i was laughing about, and thats what the guy said.

Second of all, his career didnt began in 2011. Like i said, he has good moments, but he has a plenty of bad moments when the game was on the line. Game 6 he was saved by Ray Ray with a miraclous shot, after losing a three, despite having a good 4th quarter, i give him that. If he loses he would be known as a chocker who cant deal with pressure, am i wrong? And OT he didnt played very well too.
Considering the performances I posted, he absolutely is better in a high pressure situation.

And just because he WOULD be called a choker, doesn't mean that it's not a short sighted opinion

[20Four]

This year, they will be the underdogs in ECF ( if they play Indiana) and in the finals. Lebron is always at his best when he is in that position:

game 6 Celtics
2012 NBA finals
Bulls 2011

Watch out haters! LeUnderdog is coming!
STFU already $hit.... :roll:

http://i.minus.com/iivAVBc8phUnu.png

[J Shuttlesworth]

STFU already $hit.... :roll:

http://i.minus.com/iivAVBc8phUnu.png
Hey bro, need any help fighting off trolls? I got your back :cheers:

[sportjames23]

Best as an underdog... when the pressure's at it's lowest. Imagine that.


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[diamenz]

Best as an underdog... when the pressure's at it's lowest. Imagine that.

:basketball

[ThePhantomCreep]

LeBron has only one legit upset victory--the 2007 ECFs.

OKC was favored for the same reason the 2008 Lakers were favored against Boston--their level of play heading into the series. Miami had the better team though.

Lol at 2012. LeBron had tremendous pressure on him in game 6 only because the Heat were shockingly down 3-2 to the geriatric Celtics. This message board would have exploded had the Heat lost that series, they were heavy favorites.

I won't give LeBron too much flak for this though. Even Jordan only has a couple of upset wins on his resume (both in the 1989 playoffs). Olajuwon probably has the most under his belt (1986 WCFs, the entire 1995 playoffs).

[Keno]

celticsballer got exposed hard in this game lmfao. when trolling goes hard.

[Le Shaqtus]

LeBron stans already preparing excuses.

[Mr. Jabbar]

Lebron is at his best with multiple franchise players

[J Shuttlesworth]

Lol at 2012. LeBron had tremendous pressure on him in game 6 only because the Heat were shockingly down 3-2 to the geriatric Celtics. This message board would have exploded had the Heat lost that series, they were heavy favorites.

Lol you just explained why that was such a high pressure game. If he lost game 6 against the celtics, that's 2 years of choking in a row ending in a massive failure, but even worse because he wouldn't have made it to the finals w/o beating Boston. He would've been crucified by ESPN and all of the basketball world, and more importantly, the big 3 would have been considered a giant failure. Give the dude credit for answering as strong as he did instead of buckling under the pressure.

[sportjames23]

not even Jordan with that cavs team beats spurs team your trying to hard:oldlol:


Edit: Nevermind. Read that wrong.

[red1]

cant help it man Im a sucker for the underdog and that is why I always support lebron james and the miami heat

[ThePhantomCreep]

Lol you just explained why that was such a high pressure game. If he lost game 6 against the celtics, that's 2 years of choking in a row ending in a massive failure, but even worse because he wouldn't have made it to the finals w/o beating Boston. He would've been crucified by ESPN and all of the basketball world, and more importantly, the big 3 would have been considered a giant failure. Give the dude credit for answering as strong as he did instead of buckling under the pressure.
While I agree that LeBron had all the pressure in the world on him going into that game (and he came through magnificently) it wasn't a product of being the underdog. On the contrary, true underdogs rarely have any pressure on them. He was trying to avoid a major upset loss, one year after his debacle in the 2011 Finals. That and game 7 last year were his greatest performances in the NBA.

[JUDGE WITNESS]

since lebron has joined the heat they have never been underdogs

they are expected to win year after year

[navy]

since lebron has joined the heat they have never been underdogs

they are expected to win year after year


Why do people keep blatantly lying. The Heat were not expected to win the 2012 NBA Finals. That's just a fact. You cant just rewrite history because of how blatantly wrong everyone was. :confusedshrug:

[Solefade]

ISH: when you have a bunch of big names on paper you are the favorites regardless of circumstances/injuries or eye test analysis :confusedshrug:

[J Shuttlesworth]

While I agree that LeBron had all the pressure in the world on him going into that game (and he came through magnificently) it wasn't a product of being the underdog. On the contrary, true underdogs rarely have any pressure on them. He was trying to avoid a major upset loss, one year after his debacle in the 2011 Finals. That and game 7 last year were his greatest performances in the NBA.
I agree the Heat weren't underdogs against Boston in that series. I don't think they've been underdogs aside from arguably against the Thunder in 2012. The point is that LeBron has killed it in the high pressure games last two years

[PsychoBe]

I agree the Heat weren't underdogs against Boston in that series. I don't think they've been underdogs aside from arguably against the Thunder in 2012. The point is that LeBron has killed it in the high pressure games last two years

does it make up for his previous two failures in your opinion? or does it cancel each other out?

[J Shuttlesworth]

ISH: when you have a bunch of big names on paper you are the favorites regardless of circumstances/injuries or eye test analysis :confusedshrug:
Exactly. They weren't the favorites to win because they weren't playing too great in the playoffs, but OKC were playing very well. Were they more talented on paper? Yes. Saying Miami was the favorite to win the series is short sighted, much like the people who said the Lakers were a lock to win the west in 2013

[J Shuttlesworth]

does it make up for his previous two failures in your opinion? or does it cancel each other out?
Which 2 failures? The 2 FMVPs have for SURE made up for 2011 to me. I'm not sure what the other failure you're talking about is.

[JT123]

LeBron has only one legit upset victory--the 2007 ECFs.

OKC was favored for the same reason the 2008 Lakers were favored against Boston--their level of play heading into the series. Miami had the better team though.
Based on what? :biggums:
Regular season record? Nope, OKC had a better record.
Better 1st option? Not really. Durant and Lebron were pretty equal talent wise, with many people thinking Lebron had stolen Durant's MVP.
Better second option? Nope. Wade was aging and playing on one knee, while Westbrook was totally healthy and much younger and faster.
Better bench? Hell no. Heat only had a bunch of streaky 3 point shooters, while OKC had a legit franchise player in Harden coming off their bench.

Damn, I just totally destroyed your post. :eek:

[DMAVS41]

Based on what? :biggums:
Regular season record? Nope, OKC had a better record.
Better 1st option? Not really. Durant and Lebron were pretty equal talent wise, with many people thinking Lebron had stolen Durant's MVP.
Better second option? Nope. Wade was aging and playing on one knee, while Westbrook was totally healthy and much younger and faster.
Better bench? Hell no. Heat only had a bunch of streaky 3 point shooters, while OKC had a legit franchise player in Harden coming off their bench.

Damn, I just totally destroyed your post. :eek:

Yea, but Harden played like complete shit.

Totally agree that going in the Heat didn't have some massive advantage...although they do match up well with them.

But Harden's 2 shit games changed that series.

The Thunder lost games 3 and 4 by six points each. In those games Harden averaged;

9/8/4 34% TS

I mean...jesus that is bad out of a key player. Really hard to win a series against a team like the Heat if you have a key cog putting up that shit back to back...and especially in the do or die game 4 that would have either made it a series or ended it.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Based on what? :biggums:
Regular season record? Nope, OKC had a better record.
Better 1st option? Not really. Durant and Lebron were pretty equal talent wise, with many people thinking Lebron had stolen Durant's MVP.
Better second option? Nope. Wade was aging and playing on one knee, while Westbrook was totally healthy and much younger and faster.
Better bench? Hell no. Heat only had a bunch of streaky 3 point shooters, while OKC had a legit franchise player in Harden coming off their bench.

Damn, I just totally destroyed your post. :eek:

GTFO

Nobody considered Durant LeBron's equal in 2012 outside of trolls. He was clearly #2. What a terrible reach this is.

Wade > Westbrook. He was coming off two stellar series vs Miami and Indiana, and he was a superior player anyway.

Harden was glorified starter, and OKC's bench was weak sauce outside of him. Miami's was easily stronger overall.

Face it, as long as the Big 3 are together they'll always be favorites. They're favorites right now. That's the price you pay for blatant collusion.

[Black and White]

GTFO

Nobody considered Durant LeBron's equal in 2012 outside of trolls. He was clearly #2. What a terrible reach this is.

Wade > Westbrook. He was coming off two stellar series vs Miami and Indiana, and he was a superior player anyway.

Harden was glorified starter, and OKC's bench was weak sauce outside of him. Miami's was easily stronger overall.

Face it, as long as the Big 3 are together they'll always be favorites. They're favorites right now. That's the price you pay for blatant collusion.

:biggums:

[J Shuttlesworth]

GTFO

Nobody considered Durant LeBron's equal in 2012 outside of trolls. He was clearly #2. What a terrible reach this is.

Wade > Westbrook. He was coming off two stellar series vs Miami and Indiana, and he was a superior player anyway.

Harden was glorified starter, and OKC's bench was weak sauce outside of him. Miami's was easily stronger overall.

Face it, as long as the Big 3 are together they'll always be favorites. They're favorites right now. That's the price you pay for blatant collusion.
You're clearly in the minority with this opinion. Check the ESPN predictions as well as the ISH thread where everyone was predicting OKC would win. You don't base a prediction purely off of talent. You have to conisder how each team was playing at the time too. OKC were the favorites to win

[ThePhantomCreep]

You're clearly in the minority with this opinion. Check the ESPN predictions as well as the ISH thread where everyone was predicting OKC would win. You don't base a prediction purely off of talent. You have to conisder how each team was playing at the time too. OKC were the favorites to win

That doesn't mean much. 2008 Finals predictions:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_WAi2txkagVM/SFlSb2Vme1I/AAAAAAAAB6k/X7AaTEhIzrw/s1600/espn_celtics_lakers_predictions_2008.JPG

Acting like Miami was an underdog is a huge stretch. They were underdogs like the 2008 Celtics were underdogs, which is to say not at all.

[J Shuttlesworth]

That doesn't mean much. 2008 Finals predictions:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_WAi2txkagVM/SFlSb2Vme1I/AAAAAAAAB6k/X7AaTEhIzrw/s1600/espn_celtics_lakers_predictions_2008.JPG

Acting like Miami was an underdog is a huge stretch. They were underdogs like the 2008 Celtics were underdogs, which is to say not at all.
There's a difference between underdogs and favorites to win. Miami wasn't an underdog, but they were not the favorites to win. and most NBA analysts agree with this. Even ISH agreed with this at the time.

[sportjames23]

To be fair, Harden played with a bruised v@gina that entire series but didn't want to sit for obvious reasons.


Fix'd

[JT123]

GTFO

Nobody considered Durant LeBron's equal in 2012 outside of trolls. He was clearly #2. What a terrible reach this is.

Wade > Westbrook. He was coming off two stellar series vs Miami and Indiana, and he was a superior player anyway.

Harden was glorified starter, and OKC's bench was weak sauce outside of him. Miami's was easily stronger overall.

Face it, as long as the Big 3 are together they'll always be favorites. They're favorites right now. That's the price you pay for blatant collusion.
Talk about reaching. :facepalm So you are telling me that Harden went from a "glorified starter" to a top 10 player in just one summer? :biggums:
Wade was coming off a very mediocre series against Boston, and was pretty horrible for the first 3 and a half games of the Indiana series. As for Lebron and Durant, most did agree that Lebron was slightly better overall, but LOL at you trying to make it sound like they were miles apart. :lol After game 1 Jim Rome even sent out a tweet about Lebron needing to hand over his MVP trophy to Durant. You have provided some nice hindsight analysis, but the facts don't support any of it. :no:

[JT123]

There's a difference between underdogs and favorites to win. Miami wasn't an underdog, but they were not the favorites to win. and most NBA analysts agree with this. Even ISH agreed with this at the time.
This. Mike Wilbon put it best when he said there would be no Cinderella stories in that series, because the teams were so evenly matched.

[ILLsmak]

heh people really believe the Heat were underdogs in 2012? Sheit.

I think a lot of people WANTED to see OKC win.

Better record/seed/ESPNForecast shouldn't mean underdog. Underdog was like Dallas vs Miami.

Dudes probably thought Chicago was an underdog to Utah.

Edit: Miami might not be favorites to win when you take THE FIELD but it's pretty close even then. Vs any other single team, I think they have more chances. Even this year. I'm def tired of seeing Miami win, and I can say wellll they won't win, but there's a good chance they will. Enough to where you'd be dumb as shit to bet against them in the playoffs vs anyone in any game, no matter what happened previously.

-Smak

[HoopsFanNumero1]

It really is amazing though. Some of Lebron's best games, like game 4 against the Pacers, game 6 against the Celtics, and the OKC Finals, all came when Heat were the underdog.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

LeBron won the last two titles as the clear cut underdog. if he threepeats as the underdog hell be number 1 all time. no one ever threepeated as the underdog.
doubt he manages it doe:applause:

[aj1987]

Based on what? :biggums:
Regular season record? Nope, OKC had a better record.
Better 1st option? Not really. Durant and Lebron were pretty equal talent wise, with many people thinking Lebron had stolen Durant's MVP.
Better second option? Nope. Wade was aging and playing on one knee, while Westbrook was totally healthy and much younger and faster.
Better bench? Hell no. Heat only had a bunch of streaky 3 point shooters, while OKC had a legit franchise player in Harden coming off their bench.

Damn, I just totally destroyed your post. :eek:
Just no. '12 LeBron >>> '12 KD and it's not even close. That year, LeBron truly deserved the DPOY talk he was getting. KD wasn't even close to being a good defender. They weren't even equal offensively. LeBron was a beast on the offensive end that season. A significantly better passer.

[Doranku]

OP is so scared. The playoffs haven't even started and this dude is already unraveling.

An epic meltdown in the making, folks.

[Doranku]

It really is amazing though. Some of Lebron's best games, like game 4 against the Pacers, game 6 against the Celtics, and the OKC Finals, all came when Heat were the underdog.

Yeah, and some of his worst games also came when his teams were the underdog, like the the entire 2008 Celtics series sans Game 7, the entire 2007 finals, game 6 against the Orlando Magic.

He also tends to perform terribly when his teams are favored, such as the 2011 finals and game 5 against the Celtics.

To be fair, some other games when LeBron has performed great as the underdog: Game 7 against the Celtics in '08 and Game 5 against the Pistons in '07.

[LongLiveTheKing]

People picked against the Heat almost everytime they faced a good team in the playoffs. B...b...but they're stacked.
Against Celtics 2011, Bulls 2011, Pacers 2012 when Bosh got hurt, 2012 Thunder, 2013 Pacers, 2013 Spurs.
People would believe the Heat were going to lose but afterwards would just say the Heat were stacked. :oldlol:
Most stacked team of all time but will lose to every other championship team from the past. :roll:

[ThePhantomCreep]

People picked against the Heat almost everytime they faced a good team in the playoffs. B...b...but they're stacked.
Against Celtics 2011, Bulls 2011, Pacers 2012 when Bosh got hurt, 2012 Thunder, 2013 Pacers, 2013 Spurs.
People would believe the Heat were going to lose but afterwards would just say the Heat were stacked. :oldlol:
Most stacked team of all time but will lose to every other championship team from the past. :roll:

It's called wishful thinking. The 2011 Finals was one of the rare times in history where the wish came true.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Talk about reaching. :facepalm So you are telling me that Harden went from a "glorified starter" to a top 10 player in just one summer? :biggums:
Wade was coming off a very mediocre series against Boston, and was pretty horrible for the first 3 and a half games of the Indiana series. As for Lebron and Durant, most did agree that Lebron was slightly better overall, but LOL at you trying to make it sound like they were miles apart. :lol After game 1 Jim Rome even sent out a tweet about Lebron needing to hand over his MVP trophy to Durant. You have provided some nice hindsight analysis, but the facts don't support any of it. :no:

Harden was a glorified starter in the sense that he received starter minutes and finished games. He wasn't a true second unit player, which is what you implied he was. Overall Miami, with all their sharpshooters, had the better bench.

Btw Westbrook was highly mediocre vs the Spurs shooting 38%. Wade was the better basketball player.

[oh the horror]

LeBron won the last two titles as the clear cut underdog. if he threepeats as the underdog hell be number 1 all time. no one ever threepeated as the underdog.
doubt he manages it doe:applause:



So now we're doing this now huh? This is the route you guys are taking?

[Kingwillball]

Best as an underdog... when the pressure's at it's lowest. Imagine that.

Gm 7 finals 37 points jumper after jumper imagine that..

[diamenz]

Gm 7 finals 37 points jumper after jumper imagine that..

wasn't that the one where he was padding in garbage time though?

[diamenz]

So now we're doing this now huh? This is the route you guys are taking?

it's that ish logic for ya. on top of that, bron stans are the youngest of the stans on here - so go figure.

[LoneyROY7]

http://media.naplesnews.com/media/img/photos/2010/07/09/HeatLebron10_t607.jpg

"Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7..."

Yeah, HUGE underdog. :rolleyes:

[zoom17]

it's that ish logic for ya. on top of that, bron stans are the youngest of the stans on here - so go figure.

why are you assuming that?

[zoom17]

http://media.naplesnews.com/media/img/photos/2010/07/09/HeatLebron10_t607.jpg

"Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7..."

Yeah, HUGE underdog. :rolleyes:

calm down clipper fan:oldlol:

[LoneyROY7]

calm down clipper fan:oldlol:

Exactly, I know what an underdog NBA team looks like...and the Heat ain't it. :lol

[diamenz]

why are you assuming that?

if not the youngest - then certainly the most irrational, unreasonable and non-objective stans on this board. but i'm not gonna waste my time with you because you'lll probably just respond with something like dancing smilies. but hey, you asked. :cheers:

[HoopsFanNumero1]

wasn't that the one where he was padding in garbage time though?

The morons on this site never cease to amuse me. I suggest you actually watch the games before writing a post next time.

[zoom17]

if not the youngest - then certainly the most irrational, unreasonable and non-objective stans on this board. but i'm not gonna waste my time with you because you'lll probably just respond with something like dancing smilies. but hey, you asked. :cheers:

Thats your opinion bro every fan base has unreasonable irrational and non-objective stans.

[Heavincent]

why are you assuming that?

Jordan stans are the oldest, Kobe stans are in the middle, and the Lebron stans are the youngest, with many of them being in the 12-18 age range. I'm pretty sure there was a poll taken that proves it.

It's pretty simple. Younger player = younger fans.

[diamenz]

Thats your opinion bro every fan base has unreasonable irrational and non-objective stans.

true, but i look at posters like marlo and livinglegend and they just take the cake.


The morons on this site never cease to amuse me. I suggest you actually watch the games before writing a post next time.

hence the question - it wasn't a statement.


Jordan stans are the oldest, Kobe stans are in the middle, and the Lebron stans are the youngest, with many of them being in the 12-18 age range. I'm pretty sure there was a poll taken that proves it.

It's pretty simple. Younger player = younger fans.

i was actually going to post exactly this but i started to get too much into it and deleted lol.

[Bandito]

LOL at the Lebron stans who think the Heat have underdogs after 2010. You're so retarded you're blind with Lesemen.

[red1]

Two underdog championships is already a legendary feat. Could you imagine if they did it for a third time in a row? Wow. Unbelievable these heat players

[Combat Wombat]

Thats your opinion bro every fan base has unreasonable irrational and non-objective stans.

Yeah but the Heat just happens to have the worst of them, yourself being one of them. You're either a 12-15 y/o or you're a severely retarded 18 y/o based on your lack of intelligence. Care to inform us all on which one it is or are you just going to respond with the usual ":oldlol: " which makes up a good 95% of your post count?

[Bandito]

Two underdog championships is already a legendary feat. Could you imagine if they did it for a third time in a row? Wow. Unbelievable these heat players
Sarcasm is over +9000 in this post:applause:

[zoom17]

Yeah but the Heat just happens to have the worst of them, yourself being one of them. You're either a 12-15 y/o or you're a severely retarded 18 y/o based on your lack of intelligence. Care to inform us all on which one it is or are you just going to respond with the usual ":oldlol: " which makes up a good 95% of your post count?

:rolleyes:This guy all you do is insult other posters I never seen you post one time without name calling I think you're the one who is between 12-15.

[JT123]

Yeah but the Heat just happens to have the worst of them, yourself being one of them. You're either a 12-15 y/o or you're a severely retarded 18 y/o based on your lack of intelligence. Care to inform us all on which one it is or are you just going to respond with the usual ":oldlol: " which makes up a good 95% of your post count?
:oldlol: Lebron stans got this fggt shook!

[aj1987]

if not the youngest - then certainly the most irrational, unreasonable and non-objective stans on this board. but i'm not gonna waste my time with you because you'lll probably just respond with something like dancing smilies. but hey, you asked. :cheers:
Dude, you call others out, but you didn't even watch Game 7 of an epic Finals series? :facepalm


Lebron stans got this fggt shook!
That guy is beyond retarded.

[sportjames23]

Damn, this place is gonna be so fun during this year's playoffs. :oldlol:

[aj1987]

Damn, this place is gonna be so fun during this year's playoffs. :oldlol:
Yeah, ok.

This place is gonna be FUBAR.

[diamenz]

Dude, you call others out, but you didn't even watch Game 7 of an epic Finals series? :facepalm



i watched it mayne... i'm just an old fool who can't remember shit that happened yesterday.

[Bandito]

i watched it mayne... i'm just an old fool who can't remember shit that happened yesterday.
:roll:

[riseagainst]

lol @ underdog.

[BBallZen83]

This thread title is hilarious. OP can't be serious.

[Genaro]

I think that maybe tomorrow he does it again and give Heat the win. But I'm not cheering for it.

[BlackVVaves]

Watch out haters!

[livinglegend]

Watch out haters!

He was the best player in the finals and was outstanding the rest of the playoffs. What s your point? :oldlol: :oldlol:

[The-Legend-24]

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