Where do the following players rank all time if they win a ring this year?

[Connor B]

Lebron James? Top 5
Tim Duncan? Top 7
Kevin Durant? Top 20
Chris Paul? Top 40
James Harden? Top 60
Dwight Howard? Top 60
Paul George? Top 70
Tony Parker? Top 30
Russell Westbrook? Top 50


Feel free to add more key players.

[T_L_P]

How does LeBron get top 5 with 3 rings and Duncan top 7 with 5? :roll:

[aj1987]

How the hell would KD be top 20 with 1 ring and 1 MVP? Top 50 for sure though. Somewhere between 35 and 45.

Lebron James? Top 5 - Top 6.
Tim Duncan? Top 7 - Top 5 for sure.
Chris Paul? Top 40 - Nope
James Harden? Top 60 - LOL! Not even close.
Dwight Howard? Top 60 - Probably.
Paul George? Top 70 - :facepalm
Tony Parker? Top 30 - Definitely
Russell Westbrook? Top 50 - Nope. Again, not even close.

[JohnFreeman]

How would the Servant be top 20 after 1 ring?

[Milbuck]

James Harden skyrocketing into the top 60 by winning a ring is like Ian Mahinmi cracking the top 10 if Indiana wins it all this year.

[DMAVS41]

I'll answer the interesting ones to me;

Lebron? Really tough...I'd probably vault him from 10 or 11 to 7 or 8

Duncan? He doesn't move anywhere for me. I have him 4th all time...well, depending on how he plays I could see myself moving him over Magic for 3rd all time, but he would have to play great in order for that. Further solidifies himself as top 5 all time if they win.

Durant? Depends on how he plays, but assuming he's great...top 25 all time.

[Rocketswin2013]

People underrate the **** out of Howard and Paul.

Paul's peak preinjury is one of the GOAT peaks.

Howard preinjury had some seasons that top peak Hakeem and DUNCAN.


Stop the bs.

[beastee]

1.. Duncan will probably crack top 5
2. CHRIS PAUL IS ALREADY TOP 30
3. Harden........Top 50(if FMVP)
4. HOWARD IS ALREADY TOP 35 EASY. HOWARD > Mutumbo. Howard > Mourning
5.George.....Top 50 (If FMVP)
6. Parker........40(If FMVP)
6. Westbrook......WILL NOT be FMVP so not even top 50

This is so wrong. Unreal. CP3 top 30 already? For never getting past 2nd round? GTFO.
Harden can't sniff top 50...way too young.
Howard is a maybe.
George, too young, stat line is not worthy.
Parker already is top 40.
Westbrook needs to stay healthy to crack top 50

[ForeverHeat]

How does LeBron get top 5 with 3 rings and Duncan top 7 with 5? :roll:

The ranking is the best player of all time. Getting a ring can move you up but not over someone who also has a few rings and had superior talent.

[T_L_P]

People underrate the **** out of Howard and Paul.

Paul's peak preinjury is one of the GOAT peaks.

Howard preinjury had some seasons that top peak Hakeem and DUNCAN.


Stop the bs.

:roll: Peak Duncan / Hakeem carried teams to titles whilst utterly dominating statistically (around 25/15/5/4 in each case). When has Howard done that?

[fiddy]

1.. Duncan will probably crack top 5
2. CHRIS PAUL IS ALREADY TOP 30
3. Harden........Top 50(if FMVP)
4. HOWARD IS ALREADY TOP 35 EASY. HOWARD > Mutumbo. Howard > Mourning
5.George.....Top 50 (If FMVP)
6. Parker........40(If FMVP)
6. Westbrook......WILL NOT be FMVP so not even top 50
:biggums:

[T_L_P]

The ranking is the best player of all time. Getting a ring can move you up but not over someone who also has a few rings and had superior talent.

Duncan after 11 seasons: 4 rings with aging D. Rob, Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker

LeBron James (assuming he wins this year): 3 rings with Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh

Superior talent :rolleyes:

[Uncle Drew]

1.. Duncan will probably crack top 5
2. CHRIS PAUL IS ALREADY TOP 30
3. Harden........Top 50(if FMVP)
4. HOWARD IS ALREADY TOP 35 EASY. HOWARD > Mutumbo. Howard > Mourning
5.George.....Top 50 (If FMVP)
6. Parker........40(If FMVP)
6. Westbrook......WILL NOT be FMVP so not even top 50
Where do you rank Stockton?

[TiagoSimoes]

Get the **** out of here.


Duncan was not scoring 25 season to season.

playoffs.

regular season warriors like chris paul dont get to be so high( and i do like the guy).

[Rocketswin2013]

Where do you rank Stockton?
Top 30 easy.

[Rocketswin2013]

playoffs.

regular season warriors like chris paul dont get to be so high( and i do like the guy).
Chris Paul finally has a team around him. For the first time he has a team around him that would be pretty dang good without him.


And peak Howard had 27/16/2/1 67 TS% in the playoffs. His teammates struggled to score 10 points(literally) from game to game in the playoffs.

[rmt]

The ranking is the best player of all time. Getting a ring can move you up but not over someone who also has a few rings and had superior talent.

Lebron has a COUPLE of rings and Duncan would have 2 1/2 times that if Spurs won this year.

[EnoughSaid]

His thread is too ****ing funny. :roll: :roll:

I can only really surely speak for James and Duncan.

TD with another ring and FMVP moves in front of Shaq and Kobe, and maybe even sneaks into the top 5. Only players with a real argument over TD would be MJ, KAJ, and Magic.

LeBron with another ring and FMVP moves in front of Kobe for sure, and a three peat and dominant post season might move him up further.

[imdaman99]

Chris Paul finally has a team around him. For the first time he has a team around him that would be pretty dang good without him.


And peak Howard had 27/16/2/1 67 TS% in the playoffs. His teammates struggled to score 10 points(literally) from game to game in the playoffs.
The Magic without Howard had a dominating closeout game against the Sixers.

[Demitri98]

LeBron* James - Top 7
Tim Duncan - Top 5
Kevin Durant - Top 40
Chris Paul - Top 50
James Harden - Top 60
Dwight Howard - Top 40
Paul George - Top 70
Tony Parker - Top 30
Russell Westbrook - Top 60
Blake Griffin - Top 60
Steph Curry - Top 70

[Mass Debator]

What if Wade wins FMVP? Top 15?

[STATUTORY]

What if Wade wins FMVP? Top 15?

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :facepalm

[Jlamb47]

Duncan is definetly top 4 if he wins maybe top 3 IMO for impact on both sides of the floor.

Durant id put hi top 30 if he wins a ring this year. His statline is up there with the greats.

Lebron id put him top 7-8 if he wins

[aj1987]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :facepalm
Yeah. He's would be with Kobe in the 15-20 range with 2 FMVP's.

[BuffaloBill]

1.. Duncan will probably crack top 5
2. CHRIS PAUL IS ALREADY TOP 30
3. Harden........Top 50(if FMVP)
4. HOWARD IS ALREADY TOP 35 EASY. HOWARD > Mutumbo. Howard > Mourning
5.George.....Top 50 (If FMVP)
6. Parker........40(If FMVP)
6. Westbrook......WILL NOT be FMVP so not even top 50


You do know that there can only be 50 players in the top 50 right?

[Bibby4Three]

Jeremy Lamb Top 300?

[Rocketswin2013]

You do know that there can only be 50 players in the top 50 right?

[Jlamb47]

Yeah. He's would be with Kobe in the 15-20 range with 2 FMVP's.

Kobe is top 10

[Joyner82reload]

Durant is definitely top 25 all time with a FMVP this year

[moe94]

Durant is definitely top 25 all time with a FMVP this year

5x first team (including this year)
scoring titles
MVP (he will clearly win)
Finals MVP
7 years in the league

That's good for top 25 all time?

[Flash31]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :facepalm


Dont see whats funny about that or unbelievable

2 Finals MVPS,4 Rings is damn good
not many players have that
Thats Top 10-15 material easily


But some of yall
PG Top 70 WTF? or Harden Top 60?

NO NO NO

Though if Dirk is somehow Top 20-25 with 1 Ring
Chris Paul would be there as well then going by that logic

Durant Top 20 with 1 RING,1 Ring
WTF?
His resume with 1 Ring does not surpass 25 players let alone in top 20

LeBron,Wade,KG,Pierce,Duncan,Tony Parker,Dirk,Kobe
and those are the players still Playing

not to mention
Jordan,Russell,Wilt,Kareem,Magic,Bird,Shaq,Hakeem, Oscar,Isiah,
Havlicek,West,Dr J,Moses Malone,Pippen

Thats 23 players at MINIMUM with a better resume still

KD isnt putting up Wilt,Oscar numbers to justify in Goat rank with 1 Ring
Otherwise Stockton,Malone,Barkley,Thurmond would all be top 20 then

Ease up with Rankings
Its like the past players get overlooked and current hyped and
overrated huge
Come on

[Mr Exlax]

Honestly they'd have to get FMVP and then I can see some.changes happening.

[STATUTORY]

Dont see whats funny about that or unbelievable

2 Finals MVPS,4 Rings is damn good
not many players have that
Thats Top 10-15 material easily



wade's rings are heavily discounted. he's basically a role player in last championship and majority of this season he's a complete nonfactor

[Joyner82reload]

5x first team (including this year)
scoring titles
MVP (he will clearly win)
Finals MVP
7 years in the league

That's good for top 25 all time?

That's the greatest resume of a 25 year old in NBA history. Are you telling me that it's impossible to be top 25 all time by the age of 25? Is it about nothing but longevity? He's having a season that's up there with the peaks of the top 5-6 player ever.

[IncarceratedBob]

Wade will never be on the level of Kobe Bean Bryant. From a skills/peak wise Kobe unfortunately was better and it really wasn't close, then look at the accolades..Wade never sniffed an MVP, then you look at the All NBA, All D teams made and Kobe is raised to an even higher level. Wade would have win 2 more rings whilst winning FMVP to achieve KB's level, which we all know will never happen.

[lakers_forever]

Duncan? He doesn't move anywhere for me. I have him 4th all time...well, depending on how he plays I could see myself moving him over Magic for 3rd all time, but he would have to play great in order for that. Further solidifies himself as top 5 all time if they win.



Duncan 4th all time, really? I love the guy, but you overrate him a lot IMHO. A guy ranked 4th all time has a case for GOAT and Duncan doesn't. I like to look at how guys were perceived during their prime. With guys like Jordan, Kareem, Russell, Magic, Bird, Wilt and even Shaq, you had people defending them or at least putting them in the discussion for best player ever. Hell, even Kobe had more of that conversation than Duncan.

I think a title would change put Duncan definetly ahead of Kobe, Shaq, Oscar, Hakeem, for those who don't have him already there and amplify the difference for those who still have Kobe and Shaq ahead of him.

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To make it easier to reply to the OP.

My top 30 (might be missing someone):

1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Russell
4. Wilt
5. Magic
6. Bird
7. Kobe
8. Shaq
9. Duncan
10. Lebron
11. Olajuwon
12. Oscar Robertson
13. Jerry West
14. Moses Malone
15. Dr. J
16. Elgin Baylor
17. Havlicek
18. Isaiah Thomas
19. Bob Pettitt
20. Karl Malone.
21. Charles Barkley
22. George Mikan
23. Scottie Pippen
24. Kevin Garnett
25. Dirk
26. John Stockton
27. Bob Cousy
28. David Robinson
39. Rick Barry
30. Dave Cowens

Lebron - I love Kobe, but 4 straight finals and a 3 peat as the main man jumps Lebron to number 7, ahead of Kobe, Shaq and Duncan for best player post Jordan. It would not be crazy to consider him top 4, only behind Jordan, Kareem and Russell.

Chris Paul - He already has a great career. Leading the Clippers to the title, stopping Lebron from 3 peating? I think he might becomes top 25 and top 4 pg only behind Magic, Oscar and Isaiah Thomas.

Kevin Durant - Top 20 is fair. Dude is a monster and one of the very best scorers ever already.

I don't really care about the others. I don't think a guy like Howard becomes top 30 or 40... He is no better than Ewing was. A title would not change that.





EDIT - might be underrating Dirk and KG...

[moe94]

That's the greatest resume of a 25 year old in NBA history. .

Hasn't happened yet. :coleman:

And is it really?

[Flash31]

Durant is definitely top 25 all time with a FMVP this year

No

Top 40-50 sure
Top 25 Hell No
7 years in,His current stats and resume with 1 ring and Finals No

Heres 25 in no order that would still be ahead

1--Wilt
2--Jordan
3--Russell
4--Kareem
5--Magic
6--Bird
7--Shaq
8--Duncan
9--Kobe
10--Hakeem
11--Oscar
12--LeBron
13--Wade
14--Garnett
15--Dirk
16--Isiah
17--Havlicek
18--Pippen
19--Pierce
20--Dr J
21--KC Jones
22--Thurmond
23--Kidd
24--West
25--Stockton

[Flash31]

That's the greatest resume of a 25 year old in NBA history. Are you telling me that it's impossible to be top 25 all time by the age of 25? Is it about nothing but longevity? He's having a season that's up there with the peaks of the top 5-6 player ever.


Greatest Resume for First 7 years hmm

Bill Russell,Wilt Chamberlain,Magic Johnson,Larry Bird,Michael Jordan,Shaq,West,Isiah Thomas,Kareem,Dwyane Wade

Not Even Top 10

Its not impossible for a 25 year old to be top 5 or somebody after 7 years
but they would have to put up huge stats and have a Top 20 Resume with it
in 7 years

Durants good but hes not GOAT level playing good like that at least Not YET

You said hes having a SEASON up to Top5-6 level---/Hell NO
and thats a season,the TOP 5 had Careers worthy of TOP 5-6 Level

One season is equal to Top 20 already?

In that case Durant is far from top 25

[Mr. Jabbar]

how lebron keep climbing on kids imaginary ranks by adding asterisks is beyond me..

[Flash31]

wade's rings are heavily discounted. he's basically a role player in last championship and majority of this season he's a complete nonfactor


So that would mean Kobes First 2 are basically worth Nothing then by That Logic

Majority of season,Didnt know almost 20 pts with 5,5 and 1.5 steals on 52+% fg is a nonfactor hmm
But again Thats regular season,
Finals is Where it counts otherwise Carmelo Anthony must be a goat level talent already right

Did you even watch the last two FINALS?

Come on,Hate the Heat and Wade all you want but you cant be that
ignorant can you?

[moe94]

So that would mean Kobes First 2 are basically worth Nothing then by That Logic


Kobe's second ring was in 2001, was it not? :biggums:

[Flash31]

Wade will never be on the level of Kobe Bean Bryant. From a skills/peak wise Kobe unfortunately was better and it really wasn't close, then look at the accolades..Wade never sniffed an MVP, then you look at the All NBA, All D teams made and Kobe is raised to an even higher level. Wade would have win 2 more rings whilst winning FMVP to achieve KB's level, which we all know will never happen.

Skills Wise,Kobe is better at scoring,Everything Else Wade is better

Wade was 3rd in DPOY and MVP in 2009 man.
When has Kobe been TOP3 in DPOY?

And you cant be serious with Kobes all D First Teams,some of them he deserved but the last several come on,Kobes reputation and hype got those not his skill

And if Wade does win 2 Rings with Finals MVPS
How exactly would Kobe be way higher

5 Rings,3 Finals MvPS with So far Better stats than Kobe in Finals

Kobes higher but 2 more for Wade And Wade could be argued as higher

[Flash31]

Kobe's second ring was in 2001, was it not? :biggums:

I dont see the point
Shaq IN First 2 Finals was CLEAR CUT MVP by far
Wade had a case for Finals MVP last year before Game 7 over LeBron

Kobe had No Case over Shaq

Finals Not Playoffs

I like Kobe too but if wade was a glorified role player in 2012 and 2013
then Kobe was too in 2000 and 2001

Look at the difference between Kobe and Shaq in
2000 and 2001 in Finals and between Wade and LeBron in 2012 and 2013 in Finals
Wade and LeBron are closer while Shaqs is way Higher than Kobes
just saying

[moe94]

I dont see the point
Shaq IN First 2 Finals was CLEAR CUT MVP by far
Wade had a case for Finals MVP last year before Game 7 over LeBron

Kobe had No Case over Shaq

Finals Not Playoffs

I like Kobe too but if wade was a glorified role player in 2012 and 2013
then Kobe was too in 2000 and 2001

Look at the difference between Kobe and Shaq in
2000 and 2001 in Finals and between Wade and LeBron in 2012 and 2013 in Finals
Wade and LeBron are close while Shaqs is way way Higher than Kobes
just saying

Kobe was a flat out superstar by 2001.

Dude was 29/7/6 on 47% shooting in the playoffs

Role player, my ass. I mean, we can look at Wade's stats if you'd like. They're not comparable.

[16X]

No

Top 40-50 sure
Top 25 Hell No
7 years in,His current stats and resume with 1 ring and Finals No

Heres 25 in no order that would still be ahead

1--Wilt
2--Jordan
3--Russell
4--Kareem
5--Magic
6--Bird
7--Shaq
8--Duncan
9--Kobe
10--Hakeem
11--Oscar
12--LeBron
13--Wade
14--Garnett
15--Dirk
16--Isiah
17--Havlicek
18--Pippen
19--Pierce
20--Dr J
21--KC Jones
22--Thurmond
23--Kidd
24--West
25--Stockton
lmao Stockton? Stop trolling. 1 MVP and 1 FMVP with far superior talent is not better than zero and zero with less talent/ size/ athleticism?

Jason Kidd? My favourite PG of all time, but just no.

Paul Pierce? :roll: He doesn't rank even close to Chris Paul, let alone Kevin f*cking Durant :facepalm Replace Pierce with CP or KD and the Celtics win more titles and it would be hard for any other team to even take one playoff game win from them.

Lebron was top 12 afer ONE ring. A good chunk of his fans were calling him top ten before he even won a title, but KD would be top 40-50 after a title and MVP? GTFO.

[moe94]

lmao Stockton? Stop trolling. 1 MVP and 1 FMVP with far superior talent is not better than zero and zero with less talent/ size/ athleticism?

How is that relevant at all?

Ralph Sampson is now a top 20 player of all time. Period.

[Flash31]

Shaq Kobe 2000 Finals

38 pts 15.6 pts 22.4 ppg difference
16.7 rbs 4.6 rbs 12.1 rbs difference
2.3 ast 4.2 ast 1.9 ast advantage
1 stl 1 stl 1.3 blcks difference
2.7 blck 1.4 blcks 24.3 fg% difference
61% fg 36.7% fg

2001 Finals

33 pts 24.6 pts 8.4 ppg difference
15.8 rbs 7.8 rbs 8 rbs difference
4.8 ast 5.8 ast 1 ast advantage
0.4 stls 1.4 stls 1 stl advantage
3.4 blcks 1.4 blcks 2 blcks difference
57.3%fg 41.5%fg 15.8 fg% difference

Combined

-15.4 ppg
-10.5 rbs
+1.45 ast
-1.65 blcks
-20.5% fg


Combined
Shaq------35.5 ppg,16.25 rbs,3.55 ast,
Kobe------

[derb2k2]

Paul George??? LMAOOOOOO:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

[secund2nun]

Duncan already moved up after last year. They were one missed shot away from winning a title, Duncan capturing another finals MVP, and he was 36.

[moe94]

He wasn't a superstar in 2000 and no argued otherwise.

Kobe is a poor Finals performer. Why are you cherrypicking? Why not the entire playoffs? Why not the regular season? Why the Finals only? You're saying dude had a bad series, by his standards, and is therefore a role player.

Like I said, what about Wade's stats?

[16X]

How is that relevant at all?

Ralph Sampson is now a top 20 player of all time. Period.
How is it relevant? It's relevant because KD's height/ natural talent/ athleticism are a few of the things that make him a much, much better basketball player than a John Stockton, and these attributes are going to make it possible for him to win MVPs and FMVPs when Stockton couldn't.

Did I say that everyone taller and more athletic than Stockton is better than him? No, but KD is clearly better than him, just like Lebron James is clearly better than Jason Kidd and Steve Nash.

[moe94]

His physical measurements and "talent" mean nothing. It's all about results.

[Flash31]

Shaq Kobe 2000 Finals

38 pts 15.6 pts 22.4 ppg difference
16.7 rbs 4.6 rbs 12.1 rbs difference
2.3 ast 4.2 ast 1.9 ast advantage
1 stl 1 stl 1.3 blcks diffference
2.7 blck 1.4 blcks 23.4%fg difference
61% fg 36.7% fg

2001 Finals

33 pts 24.6 pts 8.4 ppg difference
15.8 rbs 7.8 rbs 8rbs difference
4.8 ast 5.8 ast 1 ast advantage
0.4 stls 1.4 stls 1 stl advantage
3.4 blcks 1.4 blcks 2 blck difference
57.3%fg 41.5%fg 15.8 fg% difference

[Flash31]

He wasn't a superstar in 2000 and no argued otherwise.

Kobe is a poor Finals performer. Why are you cherrypicking? Why not the entire playoffs? Why not the regular season? Why the Finals only? You're saying dude had a bad series, by his standards, and is therefore a role player.

Like I said, what about Wade's stats?


Bc Finals is what matters and highest stage and decides who wins
Finals MVP not Playoffs
Its not Cherrypicking

Here Ill get that too

[Joyner82reload]

Greatest Resume for First 7 years hmm

Bill Russell,Wilt Chamberlain,Magic Johnson,Larry Bird,Michael Jordan,Shaq,West,Isiah Thomas,Kareem,Dwyane Wade

Not Even Top 10

Its not impossible for a 25 year old to be top 5 or somebody after 7 years
but they would have to put up huge stats and have a Top 20 Resume with it
in 7 years

Durants good but hes not GOAT level playing good like that at least Not YET

You said hes having a SEASON up to Top5-6 level---/Hell NO
and thats a season,the TOP 5 had Careers worthy of TOP 5-6 Level

One season is equal to Top 20 already?

In that case Durant is far from top 25

LMFAO

Durant is averaging 32/8/6 on 65 TS%. There are MAYBE 15-20 seasons EVER that are comparable to what he is doing. As for resume's, just lol @ your list. Wade? Isiah?Shaq? West? LOL

4 scoring titles
5X all nba 1st team
1X MVP, 3X MVP Runner up
5X all star
1X FMVP
1X Ring
2X conference champion
1X all star MVP
1X olympic gold medalist

that resume is unheard of for a 25 year old. Hell you would be hardpressed to find 15 players with better resume's than that for a 14-18 year career, much less a 7 year one

[Flash31]

Lebron Wade
2012 Finals

28.6 ppg 22.6 ppg 6 ppg difference
10.2 rbs 6 rbs 4.2 rbs difference
7.4 ast 5.2 ast 2.2 ast difference
1.6 stls 1.4 stls 0.2 stls difference
0.4 blcks 1.2 blcks 0.8 blck advantage
47.2 fg% 43.5% 3.7%fg difference

2013 Finals

25.3 ppg 19.6 ppg 5.7 ppg difference
10.9 rbs 4 rbs 6.9 rb diffference
7 ast 4.6 ast 2.4 ast difference
2.3 stls 1.9 stls 0.4 stl diffference
0.9 blcks 1.3 blck 0.4 blck advantage
44.7%fg 47.6%fg 2.9%fg advantage



LEBRON----26.95ppg,10.55rbs,7.2ast,1.95stl,0.65blk,45.95%fg
WADE------21.1 ppg,5 rbs,4.9ast,1.65stls,1.25blck,45.55%fg

SHAQ----35.5 ppg,16.25rbs,3.55ast,0.7stl,3.05blck,59.15%fg
KOBE----20.1 ppg,6.2rbs,5ast,1.2stl,1.4blcks,39.1%fg


So if Wade was a Role Player,Whats that make Kobe when Wade has Better Stats?

[moe94]

Bc Finals is what matters and highest stage and decides who wins
Finals MVP not Playoffs
Its not Cherrypicking

Here Ill get that too

IT'S STILL A SINGLE SERIES

Tony Parker was a better player than Duncan in 2007, according to you. Billups was the reason the 04 Pistons won it all. Pierce made the 08 Celtics work. :coleman:

Not arguing Kobe is better or equal to Shaq, just that he was a superstar.

[Flash31]

IT'S STILL A SINGLE SERIES

Tony Parker was a better player than Duncan in 2007, according to you. Billups was the reason the 04 Pistons won it all. Pierce made the 08 Celtics work. :coleman:

Not arguing Kobe is better or equal to Shaq, just that he was a superstar.


I was saying Wade in those two combined Finals
2012 and 2013 played closer to LeBron and Better than Kobe
while Kobe wasnt close to Shaq and played Worse than Wade in Both Combined Finals


Theyre Both Stars,but Wade in 2012&2013 played better than Kobe did in
2000 and 2001

Im not arguing if whos a star,
Finals and Only Finals decide whos Finals MVP though and the play then is all that matters---it is what it is

If it were the Playoffs MVP then different story but its not
certain players were better than others in Finals and thats what decides the Finals MVP regardless if one player was better throughout playoffs,only Finals Count there

[Black Mamba's B]

How does LeBron get top 5 with 3 rings and Duncan top 7 with 5? :roll:
:applause:

[Flash31]

LMFAO

Durant is averaging 32/8/6 on 65 TS%. There are MAYBE 15-20 seasons EVER that are comparable to what he is doing. As for resume's, just lol @ your list. Wade? Isiah?Shaq? West? LOL

4 scoring titles
5X all nba 1st team
1X MVP, 3X MVP Runner up
5X all star
1X FMVP
1X Ring
2X conference champion
1X all star MVP
1X olympic gold medalist

that resume is unheard of for a 25 year old. Hell you would be hardpressed to find 15 players with better resume's than that for a 14-18 year career, much less a 7 year one

14-18 yr career hmm
youre saying ridiculous things already
KD with 1 MVP,1Finals,1Ring in 7 yrs is NOT NOT
better than West,Wade,Shaq,Isiah

not even close
What kind of crap are you on?

Hell Durant with that is not better than
KOBE,LEBRON,Magic,Jordan,Bird,Dirk,Wilt,Kareem,Rus sell,
and more

There are over 30+ players BETTER than KD in their 14-18 yr careers than KDS 7 yrs and possible MVP,Finals,Ring

If youre going to troll or stan,at least be reasonable
LOL at KD better in 7 years with MVP,Ring,Finals over these peoples Whole Careers
WTF are you on?

15 Players in 14-18 year careers Better

1--Jordan
2--Wilt
3--Russell
4--Kareem
5---Magic
6----Larry
7----Dunan
8----Kobe
9----Hakeem
10----Wade
11-----LeBron
12----Dirk
13----Oscar
14----Isiah
15----West

Thats 15,and Im not even mentioning others with multiple rings,stats,Finals MVPS

Dr J,Havlicek,Thurmond,Moses Malone,Pippen
5 more

[K Xerxes]

See, this exactly depicts what's wrong with the majority of people's ranking system. If Duncan wins a ring and FMVP, his resume would improve and fans would put him up in their rankings. What, in effect, you're saying is had Ray Allen missed the game tying 3, Duncan's placement would go up by the same (he probably would have won FMVP). This is not even close to an accurate criteria, it is lazy and clearly depends on many variables that may be out of a player's control.

[r0drig0lac]

Lebron James? Top 5
Tim Duncan? Top 7
Kevin Durant? Top 20
Chris Paul? Top 40
James Harden? Top 60
Dwight Howard? Top 60
Paul George? Top 70
Tony Parker? Top 30
Russell Westbrook? Top 50


Feel free to add more key players.

Lebron James? Top 10 (I agree, but precisely 8th, got it on 12th)
Tim Duncan? Top 7 (it is already in 7th would be top 5 up magic / bird)
Kevin Durant? Top 20 (top 30)
Chris Paul? Top 40 (agree)
James Harden? Top 60 (agree)
Dwight Howard? Top 60 (top 50)
Paul George? Top 70 (top 50)
Tony Parker? Top 30 (agree, but close to the top 20 (21-25) with 2 fmvp)
Russell Westbrook? Top 50 (top 50)

[Flash31]

See, this exactly depicts what's wrong with the majority of people's ranking system. If Duncan wins a ring and FMVP, his resume would improve and fans would put him up in their rankings. What, in effect, you're saying is had Ray Allen missed the game tying 3, Duncan's placement would go up by the same (he probably would have won FMVP). This is not even close to an accurate criteria, it is lazy and clearly depends on many variables that may be out of a player's control.


Duncan would go up with another ring,Finals MVP
though Top 4-5 is nearl impossible to surpass so he remains
5-7 and his position is even more solidified

Kareem,Russell,Wilt,Jordan are basically unmovable and unless somebody wins huge and puts up gigantic stats,not happening

so that leaves the 5-9 spots

Magic,Bird,Duncan,Shaq,Kobe possible 5
others could be in there

so anything 5-10 can change 1-4 is basically set in stone almost

[rmt]

LMFAO

Durant is averaging 32/8/6 on 65 TS%. There are MAYBE 15-20 seasons EVER that are comparable to what he is doing. As for resume's, just lol @ your list. Wade? Isiah?Shaq? West? LOL

4 scoring titles
5X all nba 1st team
1X MVP, 3X MVP Runner up
5X all star
1X FMVP
1X Ring
2X conference champion
1X all star MVP
1X olympic gold medalist

that resume is unheard of for a 25 year old. Hell you would be hardpressed to find 15 players with better resume's than that for a 14-18 year career, much less a 7 year one

He left off Duncan - 1st six years:

2 rings
2 MVPs
2 FMVPs
6 all-nba 1st team
5 all-defensive 1st team
1 all-defensive 2nd team
5 all-star (no game in 99)
1 all-star MVP

[Smook A.]

James Harden skyrocketing into the top 60 by winning a ring is like Ian Mahinmi cracking the top 10 if Indiana wins it all this year.
:blah

[bballnoob1192]

Lebron James? Top 5
Tim Duncan? Top 7
Kevin Durant? Top 20
Chris Paul? Top 40
James Harden? Top 60
Dwight Howard? Top 60
Paul George? Top 70
Tony Parker? Top 30
Russell Westbrook? Top 50


Feel free to add more key players.

tim duncan with 5 ring would be top 5 if he gets FMVP, idk if it is just a ring tho...i guess most rank him at 6-8 so getting the ring without the FMVP will push him closer to 6 than 8?
lebron top 7 of course he will get FMVP
kd top 50 of course he will get FMVP
cp3 top 50 if he gets FMVP over BG
james harden irrelevant even if he gets FMVP
dwight howard top 50 if he wins FMVP due to his first half career in orlando/making the finals/defensive presence
PG irrelevent even if he wins finals MVP
tony parker prolly top 30 if he wins the finals mvp also, but if he doesn't then irrelevant
Westbrook top 75 is he wins finals mvp which is .01% chance unless KD gets injured after a tied series and WB wins the series or soemthing. irrelevant if he doesn't win finals MVP

winning a ring w/ FMVP will only affect lebron and duncan and KD majorly, and the rest of them don't matter or too many other conditions.