Why doesn't anyone care KD and Melo are ringless

[rlsmooth775]

No one seems to care about these guys or take them seriously no one ever pressures these guys to win.

[LeGOAT]

I'm starting to hear a bit about KD not having a ring. As for Melo, no one cares because no one sees him as being a true all time great

[LoneyROY7]

:wtf:

Melo gets bashed all the time.

[smoovegittar]

:wtf:

Melo gets bashed all the time.


... by a bunch of retards. Always.

[Is He Ill]

Nonsense

[russwest0]

Jan 2014 strikes again :oldlol:

[outbreak]

KD is young and hasn't peaked yet, people diss melo for no rings all the time.

[ArbitraryWater]

Jan 2014 strikes again :oldlol:

damn dude, that a model you dating there in ya avy?



Honestly, russwest is either straight delusional that should seek help, or he has 0 friends in rl.

[Milbuck]

Is this because of that dumbass NumberSix post where he said no one would care if Durant never won a ring?

Either way, congratulations on yet another stupid thread.

[Trollsmasher]

Jan 2014 strikes again :oldlol:
how's your GF?

[red1]

We have to be patient with durant because he is a weakling. Who knows how his frail frame would handle criticism. Melo is irrelevant because he plays for the knicks

[BlazerRed]

KD is young. Lebron didn't have a ring at his age, neither did Jordan. That's why. Carmelo is different, he's had a lot of time.

[Smook A.]

From what i've seen, people bash Melo and KD all the time.

Only LeBron stans bash KD

[20Four]

Jan 2014 strikes again :oldlol:

Damn son....is that yo female in your AVY? Is that also you in your avy son?

[Keno]

lebron ringless jokes started at age twenty four. durant is currently twenty five, but he's "too young", lmaooo.

[NumberSix]

You hear things like "haha, that guy has no rings" or "call me when your guy has rings like my guy". You don't really hear any "Durant or Melo need to get it done" or "a guy as great as him should be winning titles".

For guys like LeBron and Kobe, it has always been an argument of "they SHOULD win rings". Even when they're on bad teams. That's the level of expectation for their calibre. You don't hear that about Melo or Durant. Even with stacked teams, nobody says Durant SHOULD be winning titles or that it's a failure that he doesn't.

[Smook A.]

Jan 2014 strikes again :oldlol:
Beautiful girl in your AVI... Is she yours??

:lol

[Milbuck]

You hear things like "haha, that guy has no rings" or "call me when your guy has rings like my guy". You don't really hear any "Durant or Melo need to get it done" or "a guy as great as him should be winning titles".

For guys like LeBron and Kobe, it has always been an argument of "they SHOULD win rings". Even when they're on bad teams. That's the level of expectation for their calibre. You don't hear that about Melo or Durant. Even with stacked teams, nobody says Durant SHOULD be winning titles or that it's a failure that he doesn't.
Without a doubt one of the most skilled trolls on here.

[NumberSix]

Without a doubt one of the most skilled trolls on here.
I'm not trolling and how could there be a skill to trolling?

[MellowYellow]

Durant is still young. As for Melo he has never been on a team that had any business winning a championship. Can't win in today's nba without another superstar or an absurdly good supporting cast (2004 pistons, 2011 mavs)

[NumberSix]

Durant is still young. As for Melo he has never been on a team that had any business winning a championship. Can't win in today's nba without another superstar or an absurdly good supporting cast (2004 pistons, 2011 mavs)
2011 Mavs weren't absurdly good. That was a clear overachievement.

[yeaaaman]

lebron ringless jokes started at age twenty four. durant is currently twenty five, but he's "too young", lmaooo.

So then go ahead and bash him if it makes you feel better?

[All Net]

LeBron wasn't anymore pressured to win at age 25 either but yes people care if he doesn't in the next few years.

[NumberSix]

LeBron wasn't anymore pressured to win at age 25 either but yes people care if he doesn't in the next few years.
Durant has played on much stacked-er teams than LeBron had at the same age.

[All Net]

Durant has played on much stacked-er teams than LeBron had at the same age.
Yes but he hasn't been favoured to win yet.. Next year chances are he will be and he must deliver.

[Milbuck]

Do people really not see why LeBron in 2011 (at age 27) had pressure to win it all?

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9BqUBYaHlM
That announcer is so goddamn annoying. He needs a fat dick in his mouth as soon as possible.

[I<3NBA]

Beautiful girl in your AVI... Is she yours??

:lol
okay. somebody explain this joke to me. i've been seeing this comment in a lot of threads.

[yeaaaman]

You hear things like "haha, that guy has no rings" or "call me when your guy has rings like my guy". You don't really hear any "Durant or Melo need to get it done" or "a guy as great as him should be winning titles".

For guys like LeBron and Kobe, it has always been an argument of "they SHOULD win rings". Even when they're on bad teams. That's the level of expectation for their calibre. You don't hear that about Melo or Durant. Even with stacked teams, nobody says Durant SHOULD be winning titles or that it's a failure that he doesn't.

People don't bash them because they haven't the hype or legacy that either of those guys have. Melo, really? He's a great player but he already laid out a lot of his legacy and people judge him based on what he's shown us so far. People stopped judging him in line with Lebron a long time ago. He lost in the first-round every year but once I'm pretty sure, and clearly nobody ever expected him to win a ring on the current Knicks team as constructed, so there's only a certain level of bashing he'd get from that.

It's like the guy who shows up at the gym and shoots double teamed fadeaways all like "damn!! WTF is wrong with me today?!" as if he actually expected to hit it. You're not that good, why do you think you'd hit that?

Melo is not that good to where he's going to take this current Knicks team to a ring, so why would we expect it?

KD's already been to the finals by what, age 23? His team consistently finishes with one of the what, top 3 records in the league? So people can't be completely disappointed with him given that he's still young.

Lebron gets bashed because he's supposedly on GOAT level, so why shouldn't he be judged at the highest standard? If people wan't to put Kobe up there than same goes for him. They've already done so much and cemented so much of their legacy that it's the expectation. Lebron is what 2 for 4 in the finals and has played in a weaker conference, and definitely failed miserably in 2012 against the Mavericks. He's wayyy better than he showed, so why wouldn't he be bashed? (edit: also teaming up with Wade and Bosh might raise the level of expectation if you're already considered the best player in the game)

Kobe is just as polarizing because of his attitude and perceived "selfishness" or style of play, which some people will love and others will hate. But even he himself has said anything less than a ring is unacceptable.

Bottom line the greater you are the higher level of expectation that comes with that, and the smaller the margin for error. I'm not sure why people would be surprised by this. Melo is well into his career so it might be hard to change that, but KD if he continues on his path, he'll start to get bashed more if he fails to at least make another finals soon.

[NumberSix]

Yes but he hasn't been favoured to win yet.. Next year chances are he will be and he must deliver.
OKC was favoured to win the 2012 finals.

[BlazerRed]

OKC was favoured to win the 2012 finals.
So to use your logic, a 23 year old was favored to win the finals as the best player on the team.. against the best player on the planet. Dem expectations.. just like the ones you said were never on him on top of last page.

Idiot :facepalm Looking forward to seeing how you try to weasel your way out of this one.



"You hear things like "haha, that guy has no rings" or "call me when your guy has rings like my guy". You don't really hear any "Durant or Melo need to get it done" or "a guy as great as him should be winning titles".

For guys like LeBron and Kobe, it has always been an argument of "they SHOULD win rings". Even when they're on bad teams. That's the level of expectation for their calibre. You don't hear that about Melo or Durant. Even with stacked teams, nobody says Durant SHOULD be winning titles or that it's a failure that he doesn't."

[Smook A.]

okay. somebody explain this joke to me. i've been seeing this comment in a lot of threads.
russwest0 said the girl in his AVI was his. She's actually a porn star or a model. He was exposed by jameerthefear. Also he claims the dude in that pic is him when it really isn't

[Ai2death]

How about C-Webb, Miller, Barkley, Iverson, Steve Nash, Mutumbo?

It's hard to win a championship, look at Bron, you need the right group of guys, good team chemistry and a lot of luck for the right situation. AKA. See Spurs & Derrick Fisher.
Yes, Rings are important. But there are many HOFer's who haven't got one.
People put to much weight in rings, championships, MVP's and all that.
Just enjoy the damn game people.

[rlsmooth775]

russwest0 said the girl in his AVI was his. She's actually a porn star or a model. He was exposed by jameerthefear. Also he claims the dude in that pic is him when it really isn't

:lol

[Rose'sACL]

So to use your logic, a 23 year old was favored to win the finals as the best player on the team.. against the best player on the planet. Dem expectations.. just like the ones you said were never on him on top of last page.

Idiot :facepalm Looking forward to seeing how you try to weasel your way out of this one.
whether you like it or not, okc were favorites to win 2012 finals.

[rlsmooth775]

So to use your logic, a 23 year old was favored to win the finals as the best player on the team.. against the best player on the planet. Dem expectations.. just like the ones you said were never on him on top of last page.

Idiot :facepalm Looking forward to seeing how you try to weasel your way out of this one.

The thread is about why no one cares these guys are ringless or puts pressure to win

[BlazerRed]

whether you like it or not, okc were favorites to win 2012 finals.
Another idiot, that's the point of my post. He's saying that people EXPECTED OKC to win, with Durant as the best player on the team. That's huge expectations, 23 years old against the best player in the world. Numbersix was saying that Durant has never has any expectations on him, which is just purely false and he contradicted himself all on one page :facepalm

Everyone expects KD to win, if he doesn't it will be a huge let down.. but he's been young hence why up until now he's been cut some slack. If he can't produce at least a good run in the finals this year I think the pressure will start to be amplified.. assuming injuries aren't keeping three starters out like they are now.

[BlazerRed]

goddamn, you gonna explain quantum physics as well? You're getting way too complex for these retarded LeBron stans
Hmm I forget sometimes I have to put on my retard cap before posting on this site.

[Keno]

So then go ahead and bash him if it makes you feel better?

i do bash him. but one person bashing him out of the entire country is different.

[Rose'sACL]

Another idiot, that's the point of my post. He's saying that people EXPECTED OKC to win, with Durant as the best player on the team. That's huge expectations, 23 years old against the best player in the world. Numbersix was saying that Durant has never has any expectations on him, which is just purely false and he contradicted himself all on one page :facepalm

Everyone expects KD to win, if he doesn't it will be a huge let down.. but he's been young hence why up until now he's been cut some slack. If he can't produce at least a good run in the finals this year I think the pressure will start to be amplified.. assuming injuries aren't keeping three starters out like they are now.
no one cared that KD lost. Everyone cared because lebron won.
In 2011, very few to none cared because mavs won while everyone cared because lebron lost.
Explain this. Don't tell me lies here. anyone who reads a newspaper or watches news knows that what i wrote above is true.

[smoovegittar]

Hmm I forget sometimes I have to put on my retard cap before posting on this site.

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: Thanks!

[NumberSix]

So to use your logic, a 23 year old was favored to win the finals as the best player on the team.. against the best player on the planet. Dem expectations.. just like the ones you said were never on him on top of last page.

Idiot :facepalm Looking forward to seeing how you try to weasel your way out of this one.
The expectations were on the team, not Durant.

[BlazerRed]

The expectations were on the team, not Durant.
Oh so NOW it's about the team :roll:

[moe94]

The expectations were on the team, not Durant.
He got you.

[All Net]

OKC was favoured to win the 2012 finals.
They shouldn't of been, Miami were favourites all year.. They weren't favourites by espn because of bosh being hurt and struggling vs Boston.

[eliteballer]

LeBron would be ringless if he didn't play on a Super Team, too...

[NumberSix]

Oh so NOW it's about the team :roll:
It's a team sport. And bosh just came back from injury. Why the hell wouldn't OKC be favoured? :hammerhead:

[NumberSix]

He got you.
How?

There's a difference between career expectations and picking a series. In the context of career expectations, it would be seen as a failure for LeBron to never win. Durant doesn't have those. As evidenced by nobody caring that he lost the 2012 finals.

He was picked to win that series, but it wasn't seen as some kind of failure when he didn't. Ultimately, nobody cares.

[Milbuck]

How?

There's a difference between career expectations and picking a series. In the context of career expectations, it would be seen as a failure for LeBron to never win. Durant doesn't have those. As evidenced by nobody caring that he lost the 2012 finals.

He was picked to win that series, but it wasn't seen as some kind of failure when he didn't. Ultimately, nobody cares.
One of the dumbest things ever said on here.

[BlazerRed]

How?

There's a difference between career expectations and picking a series. In the context of career expectations, it would be seen as a failure for LeBron to never win. Durant doesn't have those. As evidenced by nobody caring that he lost the 2012 finals.

He was picked to win that series, but it wasn't seen as some kind of failure when he didn't. Ultimately, nobody cares.
Give it up, it's over. If you're going to troll at least try to remember what you said only a couple posts ago :sleeping

[3peated]

by "no one" op means when he talks about it at dinner with his mom

[NumberSix]

Give it up, it's over. If you're going to troll at least try to remember what you said only a couple posts ago :sleeping
Be honest. What do people make a bigger deal of? LeBron's Cavs losing to Boston in 2010 or KD losing the finals?


/thread

[Black and White]

How?

There's a difference between career expectations and picking a series. In the context of career expectations, it would be seen as a failure for LeBron to never win. Durant doesn't have those. As evidenced by nobody caring that he lost the 2012 finals.

He was picked to win that series, but it wasn't seen as some kind of failure when he didn't. Ultimately, nobody cares.

Take the L bro, move on.

If you haven't checked, championship expectations are starting to grow for Durant, and he would absolutely be seen as a failure if he never wins a title, he has those expectations.

[Droid101]

Seriously, wtf is wrong with these players?

Blake Griffin? Sucks, no ring! Chris Paul? Garbage, no ring. Anthony Davis? LOLNORING. MCW will be rookie of the year? WHY!? NO RING!!

[JohnFreeman]

Melo is the one who should get any stick out of both of them.

[Black and White]

Be honest. What do people make a bigger deal of? LeBron's Cavs losing to Boston in 2010 or KD losing the finals?


/thread

I dont see anyone on here talking about that series at all, the 2011 FINALS is what they bring up, and you yourself bring up Durant losing in the finals, so you are basically working against this argument.

[JT123]

Be honest. What do people make a bigger deal of? LeBron's Cavs losing to Boston in 2010 or KD losing the finals?


/thread
Dat ether doe. :applause:

[NumberSix]

Take the L bro, move on.

If you haven't checked, championship expectations are starting to grow for Durant, and he would absolutely be seen as a failure if he never wins a title, he has those expectations.
Maybe so. The only way we will ever know is if he retires without a ring. IMO though, I don't think it will be much of a big deal.

[NumberSix]

Dat ether doe. :applause:
Dat ether out of the

[Black and White]

Maybe so. The only way we will ever know is if he retires without a ring. IMO though, I don't think it will be much of a big deal.

A player of his calibre not winning would absolutely be a big deal, what are you talking about?

[Rose'sACL]

I dont see anyone on here talking about that series at all, the 2011 FINALS is what they bring up, and you yourself bring up Durant losing in the finals, so you are basically working against this argument.
lebron has had the most pressure to win than any player in NBA history including Jordan. unless you don't read newspapers or watch TV, you should already know this.
since 2006, lebron has had pressure to win every year. more pressure than what KD has right now and KD has had way better teams. Kobe had more pressure to win his 4th compared to KD now.
whether it is wrong or right, this is the truth.
If both kd and lebron don't win this season then i am more than sure lebron would be bashed more.

[navy]

They shouldn't of been, Miami were favourites all year.. They weren't favourites by espn because of bosh being hurt and struggling vs Boston.
They werent Vegas favorites. Assuming those are the relevant odds we use.

[NumberSix]

A player of his calibre not winning would absolutely be a big deal, what are you talking about?
You're being a prisoner of the moment.

KD wasn't even a #1 pick. He was never seen as some kind of "next great player". Shaq, Duncan and LeBron all came into the league with all time great expectations. That wasn't the case for Durant.

As most, it would be as disappointing as Karl Malone not winning a chip.

[Droid101]

Only on ISH: where "Pressure to win" becomes a new agenda thread.

:facepalm

[NumberSix]

lebron has had the most pressure to win than any player in NBA history including Jordan. unless you don't read newspapers or watch TV, you should already know this.
He lives in New Zealand. He has no concept of the coverage of NBA players.

[Black and White]

lebron has had the most pressure to win than any player in NBA history including Jordan. unless you don't read newspapers or watch TV, you should already know this.
since 2006, lebron has had pressure to win every year. more pressure than what KD has right now and KD has had way better teams. Kobe had more pressure to win his 4th compared to KD now.
whether it is wrong or right, this is the truth.
If both kd and lebron don't win this season then i am more than sure lebron would be bashed more.

Thats not what I am saying, I am coming from the standpoint that it would be a big deal if Durant never won a title, to discredit him like that is unfair, sure, LeBron had MORE pressure, but a lot of it he created himself.

[NumberSix]

Keep it real. You've never heard a single time this year that KD better win this season or that his legacy is on the line.

[Black and White]

You're being a prisoner of the moment.

KD wasn't even a #1 pick. He was never seen as some kind of "next great player". Shaq, Duncan and LeBron all came into the league with all time great expectations. That wasn't the case for Durant.

As most, it would be as disappointing as Karl Malone not winning a chip.

:facepalm this is so dumb, you are saying that "hype" coming into the NBA factors into pressure??? Its their level of play that does, if they are an elite player like Durant, they will alway have expectations to win.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Why does no one care? Simple. Because the only expectations fans have of Carmelo and Durant is to win a bunch of scoring titles. No one expects them to lead their team to a championship.

[Black and White]

Why does no one care? Simple. Because the only expectations fans have of Carmelo and Durant is to win a bunch of scoring titles. No one expects them to lead their team to a championship.

:facepalm

[Rose'sACL]

Thats not what I am saying, I am coming from the standpoint that it would be a big deal if Durant never won a title, to discredit him like that is unfair, sure, LeBron had MORE pressure, but a lot of it he created himself.
actually, one thing that lebron does well for players of other teams is that he takes a lot of pressure off them. He deserves atleast a little bit if not more of that pressure too because of "the decision" but players like CP3 and KD should thank lebron for doing "the decision".

[Myth]

I'm starting to hear a bit about KD not having a ring. As for Melo, no one cares because no one sees him as being a true all time great

This. People don't fully expect Melo to get a ring. They do give him crap for not being able to get his team consistently deep in the playoffs though, or as it stands, get a winning record. Hard to bring up rings when his team doesn't even break .500.

KD has been excused for being young, and for getting beat by the better player/team in 2012. His expectations are rising though.

[NumberSix]

Why does no one care? Simple. Because the only expectations fans have of Carmelo and Durant is to win a bunch of scoring titles. No one expects them to lead their team to a championship.
I think that people now expect Durant to win the title...... Eventually

Like I said, I've never heard anyone say Durant has to get it done this season or that his legacy is on the line.

[Black and White]

actually, one thing that lebron does well for players of other teams is that he takes a lot of pressure off them. He deserves atleast a little bit if not more of that pressure too because of "the decision" but players like CP3 and KD should thank lebron for doing "the decision".

I agree that the decision shifted mounting pressure off of other players onto himself, but that pressure was self-generated if you get what I mean?

[HoopsFanNumero1]

I think that people now expect Durant to win the title...... Eventually

Like I said, I've never heard anyone say Durant has to get it done this season or that his legacy is on the line.

That should tell you everything. There's no pressure on him because no one expect it from him, at least for now. Durant and Melo just aren't on that level as players.

[Warfan]

Melo does get bashed but he isn't in the same class as KD and LeBron. Don't see how you can bash KD, atleast not yet. After this season if OKC don't win I would get why people would bash him. I mean in 2012 he was what , 23? And went up against a peak lebron and great heat team, and he still played well. And then last year russ went down so its not like be should've won last year. He has a lot of pressure to win this year, and if they don't the criticisms are valid and warranted.

[moe94]

Why does no one care? Simple. Because the only expectations fans have of Carmelo and Durant is to win a bunch of scoring titles. No one expects them to lead their team to a championship.

Durant has already been in the Finals.

[Rose'sACL]

I agree that the decision shifted mounting pressure off of other players onto himself, but that pressure was self-generated if you get what I mean?
half that pressure. the only thing he did wrong was that 1 hour show. leaving cavs for heat was not a bad or wrong decision.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

LeBron would be ringless if he didn't play on a Super Team, too...
Exactly. Lebron killed the competitive balance in the NBA. He shoulda won a chip in Cle then formed his super team.

[Black and White]

That should tell you everything. There's no pressure on him because no one expect it from him, at least for now. Durant and Melo just aren't on that level as players.

The decision caused these kinds of statements dude

[Black and White]

half that pressure. the only thing he did wrong was that 1 hour show. leaving cavs for heat was not a bad or wrong decision.

Agreed, he did the right thing for him, but that heaped that pressure on himself

[HoopsFanNumero1]

The decision caused these kinds of statements dude

Revionist history. Lebron had this pressure on him since the '09 season.

[Black and White]

Revionist history. Lebron had this pressure on him since the '09 season.

He had pressure yes and it was mounting, but don't act like it didnt grow like 100000000 times once he left. Thats when people said his legacy was on the line.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Durant has already been in the Finals.

And Melo has been in the WCF. It's irrelevant. Fact is, fans don't have the same expectations of Melo and Durant.

[moe94]

And Melo has been in the WCF. It's irrelevant. Fact is, fans don't have the same expectations of Melo and Durant.

Kevin Durant is basically Karl Malone right now. If he doesn't win anything, pretending like people will not criticize him is asinine.

[n00bie]

Because kd and Melo didn't team up to try for a ring. Not everyone is like lebron.

[Draz]

People bash Melo a lot. KD and Chris Paul needs more blame. Especially CP.

[MichaelCorleone]

Chris Paul, Melo and KD will retire ringless mark my words.