Miami's lack of 3 point shooting

[JT123]

May cost them this year. Last season James, Chalmers, Allen, and Battier were all shooting over 40 percent from 3. This year no one on the roster is shooting 40 percent from distance. Chris Bosh has actually become the team's best option in terms of spot up 3's, which is honestly just sad. Arison really should have kept Mike Miller and amnestied Joel instead. The Heat aren't good enough defensively anymore to compensate for horrible shooting nights from 3. :(

[Mass Debator]

Totally agree. I actually think this is the #1 problem for the Heat. Such a let down when wide open shooters are missing spot ups.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Mike Miller is the man they should have never have let him go

[Fire Colangelo]

Something tells me all the scrubs (Battier, Allen, chalmers) are gonna start shooting like 60% in the playoffs to bail out lebron :facepalm

[TheReal Kendall]

Something tells me all the scrubs (Battier, Allen, chalmers) are gonna start shooting like 60% in the playoffs to bail out lebron :facepalm

This.

I don't expect them to miss wide open 3s for long

[navy]

You guys care about the regular season too much. As long as these fools show up in the last two series, I dont give af how much they suck.

[JT123]

Something tells me all the scrubs (Battier, Allen, chalmers) are gonna start shooting like 60% in the playoffs to bail out lebron :facepalm
This is a serious thread. Take your stupid troll comments elsewhere.

[Warfan]

Something tells me all the scrubs (Battier, Allen, chalmers) are gonna start shooting like 60% in the playoffs to bail out lebron :facepalm

So hitting open 3's is considered bailing out? But yes they'll probably hit their shots in the playoffs

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Something tells me all the scrubs (Battier, Allen, chalmers) are gonna start shooting like 60% in the playoffs to bail out lebron :facepalm
has nothing to do with bailing someone out if they do the only thing they are good for and which earns them millions of dollars every year:facepalm :biggums: :coleman:

[JT123]

You guys care about the regular season too much. As long as these fools show up in the last two series, I dont give af how much they suck.
If the Heat were still playing defense at an elite level I wouldn't really be concerned, but they haven't all season. Being in the bottom 10 in defensive field goal percentage and not being able to hit open 3's is not a recipe for success. Allen and Battier are old and ready to retire, they aren't going to start shooting better just because it's the playoffs. Miami's only hope is to find a way to become elite on defense again.

[navy]

If the Heat were still playing defense at an elite level I wouldn't really be concerned, but they haven't all season. Being in the bottom 10 in defensive field goal percentage and not being able to hit open 3's is not a recipe for success. Allen and Battier are old and ready to retire, they aren't going to start shooting better just because it's the playoffs. Miami's only hope is to find a way to become elite on defense again.
It hasnt matter much, to be honest the Heat had their mojo back until Lebron hit 61 and then started to scrub it up.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

If the Heat were still playing defense at an elite level I wouldn't really be concerned, but they haven't all season. Being in the bottom 10 in defensive field goal percentage and not being able to hit open 3's is not a recipe for success. Allen and Battier are old and ready to retire, they aren't going to start shooting better just because it's the playoffs. Miami's only hope is to find a way to become elite on defense again.
Miamis hope are Oden playing 15-20 minutes in the last two rounds and Beasly playing out of his mind as well as the Big three to do their job.
LeBron has to completely dominate, none of that giving Wade and Bosh shots in the first half and never get in a rythm.
Wade has to pick his spots, hit some midrange jumpers and be dominant in the post and on Defense.
Bosh has to space the floor and hit timely shots as well as being Clutch.
if Rio and Cole dont shit the bed and all the above happens they will win again.
quite unlikely tho:(

[Milbuck]

This is a serious thread. Take your stupid troll comments elsewhere.
Says the guy that trolls on a regular basis to "balance out the Lebron/Heat hate"

[ArbitraryWater]

Beasley and Jones are shooting over 40% from 3 :cheers:

Otherwise agreed.

[JT123]

So hitting open 3's is considered bailing out? But yes they'll probably hit their shots in the playoffs
Of course it is considered bailing out. Lebron is the only Heat player who is supposed to score. Kobe's teammates never scored, and neither did Jordan's.

[Fire Colangelo]

This is a serious thread. Take your stupid troll comments elsewhere.

Game 6, Lebron missed a 3, bosh got the rebound passed to Allen who bailed him out by making a 3 to send the game to overtime.

How many times have we seen Lebron and Wade with no where to go due to the lack of a reliable mid range jumper, and passes out to battier/Allen/chalmers for a semi contested 3 pointer?

Don't bring up Wade's midrange stats, he gets left open by the defense a lot of times and he's making it 40-50% of the time. Great.

How is getting bailed out a bad thing, it means the role players are actually doing their jobs. I know you lebron stans get all emotional and shit but everyone gets bailed out it's not a big deal. Kobe got bailed out by Artest, MJ got bailed out by Kerr etc.

[aj1987]

Game 6, Lebron missed a 3, bosh got the rebound passed to Allen who bailed him out by making a 3 to send the game to overtime.

How many times have we seen Lebron and Wade with no where to go due to the lack of a reliable mid range jumper, and passes out to battier/Allen/chalmers for a semi contested 3 pointer?

Don't bring up Wade's midrange stats, he gets left open by the defense a lot of times and he's making it 40-50% of the time. Great.

How is getting bailed out a bad thing, it means the role players are actually doing their jobs. I know you lebron stans get all emotional and shit but everyone gets bailed out it's not a big deal. Kobe got bailed out by Artest, MJ got bailed out by Kerr etc.
That's not getting bailed out. That's, as you said, the role-players doing their job.

[JT123]

Beasley and Jones are shooting over 40% from 3 :cheers:

Otherwise agreed.
True, but Spo doesn't like to give players who can shoot minutes. He would rather play Battier because he takes a charge once every 3 games. :facepalm
I can't wait for Battier to retire so the Heat can bring in someone who can actually make wide open shots.

[DonDadda59]

Something tells me all the scrubs (Battier, Allen, chalmers) are gonna start shooting like 60% in the playoffs to bail out lebron :facepalm

Yeah in the finals alone last year, Ray shot 55% from 3 (including arguably the biggest shot in Heat history), Chalmers 41%, Battier 44%, and Miller 61%. The Heat as a team shot 43%.

The year before they shot the same percentage as a team (64% from Miller, 58% from Battier, 43% from Cole, 40% from Wade, Bosh, and Jones). They seem to have a knack for knocking down 3s when it matters most. They might miss Miller who seemed to be allergic to missing 3s during the playoffs/finals though.

[edrick]

Lack of Mike Miller is hurting a bit. He was a good rebounder too.

[Fire Colangelo]

That's not getting bailed out. That's, as you said, the role-players doing their job.

Super stars are supposed to take the last shot the win the game. But they can't make every shot. Lol I didn't mean it in a bad way. It is what it is, bailing someone out is saving them from total collapse. Allen saved Lebron's chance at a title, Artest saved Kobe's. :confusedshrug:

K forget bailing out. Let me rephrase that lol, heat role players will find their shot eventually.

[ArbitraryWater]

True, but Spo doesn't like to give players who can shoot minutes. He would rather play Battier because he takes a charge once every 3 games. :facepalm
I can't wait for Battier to retire so the Heat can bring in someone who can actually make wide open shots.

This :banghead: Battier is horrid this Year... why he doesn't play Beasley more is a miracle to me... also, that stupid waiting for the 6th minute mark for Bron to get back in... ugh.

[davehos]

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Mike+Miller+Miami+Heat+Media+Day+7HmPxkZcUtkl.jpg

[dannywpt]

Don't worry, they will start raining during the playoffs.

[Mass Debator]

Don't bring up Wade's midrange stats, he gets left open by the defense a lot of times and he's making it 40-50% of the time. Great.
Wade gets left open by the defense? LOL
I don't know what games you are watching.

He's knocking down fade aways, step backs, curls, pull ups, and everything else. He RARELY takes a spot up which is what should be considered "open".

[Fire Colangelo]

This :banghead: Battier is horrid this Year... why he doesn't play Beasley more is a miracle to me... also, that stupid waiting for the 6th minute mark for Bron to get back in... ugh.

Battier is a proven defensive vet, Beasley is a proven idiot. Beasley has been great in the minute he's gotten, but that's how many minute he's going to get. I wouldn't trust him as a coach either given his history.

[Fire Colangelo]

Wade gets left open by the defense? LOL
I don't know what games you are watching.

He's knocking down fade aways, step backs, curls, pull ups, and everything else. He RARELY takes a spot up which is what should be considered "open".

I admit I've watched maybe only 20ish less than 30 heat games this year.
He does get left open at times, and hes not what I'd call a threat from mid, neither is Lebron.

[HomieWeMajor]

I think that Spo is gonna employ Birdman and Oden as stretch-centers in the playoffs to spread the floor even more.

[ProfessorMurder]

has nothing to do with bailing someone out if they do the only thing they are good for and which earns them millions of dollars every year:facepalm :biggums: :coleman:

Explain the fiscal bailout for the banks then.

[imnew09]

Shouldve signed andrew bynum

[JohnMax]

Mike Miller: From Near Retirement After '12 Finals to Not Missing a Game in '14
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1989014-mike-miller-from-near-retirement-after-12-finals-to-not-missing-a-game-in-14

Now two years later, at 34 years old, not only has Miller not missed a single game for the Memphis Grizzlies, but he's also averaging the most minutes (20.8) and points (7.0) since the 2009-10 season.

http://troll.me/images/the-most-interesting-man-in-the-world/mike-miller-doesnt-always-hit-threes-yes-he-does-thumb.jpg

[Trollsmasher]

This team needs a massive infusion of young blood after this season, regardless of what happens in the PO.

[Sharmer]

Ray will make the big shots when they matter.

Let's not have selective memories, he has a career highlights , of making big shots.

[aj1987]

This team needs a massive infusion of young blood after this season, regardless of what happens in the PO.
True. Miami is the oldest team in the league. Keep Wade, James, Bosh, Oden, Beasley, Chalmers and scrap the rest.


Ray will make the big shots when they matter.

Let's not have selective memories, he has a career highlights , of making big shots.
If he could actually play on the defensive end and be consistent on the offensive end, he might actually be effective. Dude is 38 years old. He's pretty much done.

[Rondo]

Don't worry, I'm sure some scrub like Birdman will start nailing 3 after 3 in the playoffs, such is Miami's luck.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

True. Miami is the oldest team in the league. Keep Wade, James, Bosh, Oden, Beasley, Chalmers and scrap the rest.


If he could actually play on the defensive end and be consistent on the offensive end, he might actually be effective. Dude is 38 years old. He's pretty much done.
see you got blinded by his only good game in 2 months:coleman:

[aj1987]

see you got blinded by his only good game in 2 months:coleman:
No, you stupid little shit. I called him out numerous times in the GT. Chalmers is the only PG that Miami can sign for cheap. The rest of the PG's at ~3-4 mil are worse than Rio. I don't want the Heat to spend 5-8 mil on a PG, when be need good big men and 3pt shooters.

[Fire Colangelo]

True. Miami is the oldest team in the league. Keep Wade, James, Bosh, Oden, Beasley, Chalmers and scrap the rest.


If he could actually play on the defensive end and be consistent on the offensive end, he might actually be effective. Dude is 38 years old. He's pretty much done.

What do you think Miami will do in this off season? Do they have enough cap to sign Chalmers (who will be looking for a raise)? Which free agents are on top of the Heat's wish list?

I think the Big 3 are gonna stay together. But who's going to replace Battier/Ray/Birdman/etc?

Miami needs D+3 guys, and guys who can protect the paint. Do they have enough cap space to sign Thabo + Okafor/Kaman + the rest?

How can Miami get young?

[DMV2]

Battier was shitting bricks through the 2011-12 season, then all the sudden he started hitting everything against the Thunder in the Finals. Miller was shooting alright then in the Finals, he just couldn't miss. Same thing happened in the first 5 games of the Spurs series.

Miller isn;t there anymore but it seems like their shooters always step up in the playoffs, mainly in the Finals.

[aj1987]

1. What do you think Miami will do in this off season? Do they have enough cap to sign Chalmers (who will be looking for a raise)? Which free agents are on top of the Heat's wish list?

2. I think the Big 3 are gonna stay together. But who's going to replace Battier/Ray/Birdman/etc?

3. Miami needs D+3 guys, and guys who can protect the paint. Do they have enough cap space to sign Thabo + Okafor/Kaman + the rest?

4. How can Miami get young?

1. Hell No. Chalmers is NOT getting a raise. The only reason he's as good as he is right now, is because LeBron and Wade. He wouldn't start on any other team in the league. The guy is a decent defender with a good outside shot, but his BB IQ is in the red. Dude would get exposed on any other team.

2. The big 3 will definitely stay together. I can't see Bosh or LeBron leaving. Shane, Allen, and Birdman have a combined salary of ~$9M. Miami needs to get solid defenders, who are above average 3pt shooters. Not sure who's available though. Haven't really checked it out.

3. D+3 guys to replace Allen and Battier. As I said, I have to check to see who the Heat might actually be able to sign. I don't know about Okafor and Kaman though. Both will be 32 next season. We need guys who are young and can really move. If Arison is willing to go over the cap, Asik would be an excellent pickup. Dude can rebound and is a solid defender.

4. Replace Allen/Battier/Birdman/Rashard/Haslem. Getting rid of Haslem would give us $4.5M. We're basically paying him that much to warm the bench. Get him a FO/Coaching job and clear up some cap space.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Looking way too much into it imo. They're still top10 in 3p% (16th in attempts) and while that's important for a team like MIA, there are more important things, like picking up their defense, and of course Lebron has to be great with help from Bosh and Wade, they'll probably shoot better from 3 in the post-season, as usual. Anyways, that's just my analysis and opinions.

[Fire Colangelo]

1. Hell No. Chalmers is NOT getting a raise. The only reason he's as good as he is right now, is because LeBron and Wade. He wouldn't start on any other team in the league. The guy is a decent defender with a good outside shot, but his BB IQ is in the red. Dude would get exposed on any other team.

2. The big 3 will definitely stay together. I can't see Bosh or LeBron leaving. Shane, Allen, and Birdman have a combined salary of ~$9M. Miami needs to get solid defenders, who are above average 3pt shooters. Not sure who's available though. Haven't really checked it out.

3. D+3 guys to replace Allen and Battier. As I said, I have to check to see who the Heat might actually be able to sign. I don't know about Okafor and Kaman though. Both will be 32 next season. We need guys who are young and can really move. If Arison is willing to go over the cap, Asik would be an excellent pickup. Dude can rebound and is a solid defender.

4. Replace Allen/Battier/Birdman/Rashard/Haslem. Getting rid of Haslem would give us $4.5M. We're basically paying him that much to warm the bench. Get him a FO/Coaching job and clear up some cap space.

1. That may be true, but if Rio have a few good games in the playoffs he might get an offer from a dumb team like JJ Barea did.

2. I agree, I don't see them leaving either. I wonder what kind of contracts Riley will give them.

3. I feel Battier/Allen will be hard to replace. They were like the perfect championship team role players, especially Battier IMO. As long as the Big 3 are making most of the money, the Heat are basically gonna be stacking veterans because they can't afford younger guys. The only way is to get them through the draft.

4. Haslem has a 4.5 mil player option I believe, I don't think he's gonna opt out. Again, I think it's gonna be hard for the Heat to get young, the only way would be to draft smartly. Hope they're investing in them scouts.

[aj1987]

1. That may be true, but if Rio have a few good games in the playoffs he might get an offer from a dumb team like JJ Barea did.

2. I agree, I don't see them leaving either. I wonder what kind of contracts Riley will give them.

3. I feel Battier/Allen will be hard to replace. They were like the perfect championship team role players, especially Battier IMO. As long as the Big 3 are making most of the money, the Heat are basically gonna be stacking veterans because they can't afford younger guys. The only way is to get them through the draft.

4. Haslem has a 4.5 mil player option I believe, I don't think he's gonna opt out. Again, I think it's gonna be hard for the Heat to get young, the only way would be to draft smartly. Hope they're investing in them scouts.
1. True. He might take a pay cut to stay with the Heat if they 3peat though. Though, I've seen him "stat pad" (I hate using that term) by stealing rebounds from teammates and trying to do too much on the offensive end. He's definitely trying to get a contract. Even if he leaves, Cole is still here. Dude's a very good defender and has vastly improved his shot. His BB IQ is kinda iffy though.

2. LeBron and Bosh will get the max. Wade will likely opt out and sign for something like 4 years and $50M-$60M. That would greatly help us in signing a few other quality players. Wade makes a ton of money in endorsements. Only 4 others make more than him in endorsements (LeBron, Kobe, Durant, and Rose). Bosh will not take a pay cut again, as he doesn't make much off of endorsements. LeBron might.

3. Batteir and Allen are extremely hard to replace. Not sure how Riley will do it. Battier is an elite defender and a good 3pt shooter. Not many players like that out there, who'll sign for under $5M.

4. Yep. The only way to get rid of his contract is by getting him to retire. Promise him a FO/Coaching position. Don't know if it's possible though. As much as I like UD, he's eating up $4.5M this season and another $4.5 next season.

[red1]

Something tells me all the scrubs (Battier, Allen, chalmers) are gonna start shooting like 60% in the playoffs to bail out lebron :facepalm
My goodness I would die of laughter if that happened

[hahaitme]

4. Yep. The only way to get rid of his contract is by getting him to retire. Promise him a FO/Coaching position. Don't know if it's possible though. As much as I like UD, he's eating up $4.5M this season and another $4.5 next season.

If they gave Juwan Howard assistant coach, they better give UD something.

The Heat aren't exactly short on money, could be a good idea to still keep UD paid while giving them more cap to work with

[Prometheus]

In most of the games I've seen this season, Miami actually finds better shots than their opponent and just bricks them. The game against Brooklyn was a great example. Almost everything Pierce and Teletovic were putting up was highly contested, yet they were just drilling their shots over and over again. Meanwhile Miami was getting wide open threes almost every time down the floor and couldn't hit a damn thing.

[livinglegend]

I believe the shooters will get hot during the playoffs at some time, but I think Riley made many mistakes as a GM this year.

1. Shouldnt have amnesty Miller. This team needs shooters to space the floor. For most of the finals, Heat played better with Miller on the floor instead of Wade. Instead, he should have used it on Joel.

2. They had the mmle, but never used it. Many good players got waived or got buy out, but they didnt try to go after him. Bynum would have been great for this team ( especially against Indiana).Initially, Bynum himself said that he wanted to go to Miami or Clippers, even after that, they didnt try. They diddnt try to go after granger who is playing well right now.
They told Butler that they couldnt guarantee him minutes.

[livinglegend]

In most of the games I've seen this season, Miami actually finds better shots than their opponent and just bricks them. The game against Brooklyn was a great example. Almost everything Pierce and Teletovic were putting up was highly contested, yet they were just drilling their shots over and over again. Meanwhile Miami was getting wide open threes almost every time down the floor and couldn't hit a damn thing.

Battier was shooting like 18% from 3 for the last 10 games and almost all of his 3pt shots were wide open. Actually, Chalmers, Cole, Battier only shot wide open 3pt shots and still, they have low 3pt %.

[navy]

Reily wanted to keep Miller. The Owner Micky Arison got rid of him.

[aj1987]

If they gave Juwan Howard assistant coach, they better give UD something.

The Heat aren't exactly short on money, could be a good idea to still keep UD paid while giving them more cap to work with
Arison is a cheap ****. Wants to sign a bunch of superstars and win championships, but doesn't want to spend a ton of money.

[Megabox!]

In most of the games I've seen this season, Miami actually finds better shots than their opponent and just bricks them. The game against Brooklyn was a great example. Almost everything Pierce and Teletovic were putting up was highly contested, yet they were just drilling their shots over and over again. Meanwhile Miami was getting wide open threes almost every time down the floor and couldn't hit a damn thing.
This. Miami always go through a stretch during the season or postseason where their 3-point shooting just isn't going down. The only thing they can do is keep shooting until they start hitting them again

[Papaya Petee]

I admit I've watched maybe only 20ish less than 30 heat games this year.
He does get left open at times, and hes not what I'd call a threat from mid, neither is Lebron.
Wades been automatic from mid-range this season, and he's scoring 20 a game taking a high amount of mid-range jumpers this season. How is that not a threat from mid? That's literally the most dangerous spot on the court for him this season.

[2swift4u]

I believe the shooters will get hot during the playoffs at some time, but I think Riley made many mistakes as a GM this year.

1. Shouldnt have amnesty Miller. This team needs shooters to space the floor. For most of the finals, Heat played better with Miller on the floor instead of Wade. Instead, he should have used it on Joel.

2. They had the mmle, but never used it. Many good players got waived or got buy out, but they didnt try to go after him. Bynum would have been great for this team ( especially against Indiana).Initially, Bynum himself said that he wanted to go to Miami or Clippers, even after that, they didnt try. They diddnt try to go after granger who is playing well right now.
They told Butler that they couldnt guarantee him minutes.

you might be right. I said it at the start of the season and I'm saying it again, this Miami team has not improved. In fact they have declined. Simply because of the fact that some key role players have gotten older and worse like Battier, Allen and Haslem. Beasley has failed to make an impact and Greg Oden most likely won't have an impact either. Oden was another Miami Heat eperiment just like Eddy Curry. Don't get me wrong, I think it's great that Oden is playing again but you can't expect him to come back and stop the best centers in this league. Whereas Indiana, the Clippers and OKC were able to make some good pick ups during the season Miami wasn't. The management has failed imo.

And Miami's 3 point shooting has been embarrassing lately. As someone has mentioned before Bosh has become their best 3 point shooter and that says a lot. Of course there's a chance that the shooters step it up a notch in the playoffs but after this season Riley will have to rebuild the team anyway and get rid of some of the veterans.

[russwest0]

rebounding.