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Warfan
02-08-2014, 02:23 AM
Who's the best Power Forward and why?

And rank the top 5 Power Forwards

MichaelCorleone
02-08-2014, 02:23 AM
1. Lamarcus Aldridge
2. Blake Griffin
3. Dirk Nowitzki
4. Anthony Davis
5. Kevin Love/Serge Ibaka/Tim Duncan

Damn PF position is stacked.

Cone
02-08-2014, 02:24 AM
1. AD
2. LMA
3. Dirk/Griffin
5. Love

qrich
02-08-2014, 02:25 AM
1] Blake Griffin
2] Anthony Davis
3] Kevin Love
4] LaMarcus Aldridge
5] Dirk Nowitzki

MichaelCorleone
02-08-2014, 02:26 AM
No love for Serge Ibaka?

JebronLames
02-08-2014, 02:27 AM
1. Anthony Davis
2. Kevin love
3. Blake griffin
4. Dirk nowitzki
5. LMA

JohnFreeman
02-08-2014, 02:28 AM
Duncan

dunksby
02-08-2014, 02:29 AM
No love for Serge Ibaka?
You are so transparent :lol
1- Anthony Davis
2- Blake Griffin
3- Dirk/LMA
5- Kevin Love

plowking
02-08-2014, 02:30 AM
Bosh once again getting hosed in these discussions.

People are a bunch of flip floppers on here. Won't give Bosh his due, but then claim the Heat are stacked.

MichaelCorleone
02-08-2014, 02:31 AM
Bosh once again getting hosed in these discussions.

People are a bunch of flip floppers on here. Won't give Bosh his due, but then claim the Heat are stacked.
This. When Bosh has a VERY RARE good game, they yelling his name like it means something.

Bosh is at best a top 10-15 PF right now.

moe94
02-08-2014, 02:32 AM
Bosh once again getting hosed in these discussions.

People are a bunch of flip floppers on here. Won't give Bosh his due, but then claim the Heat are stacked.

His what? Bosh has zero case for top 5.

Cone
02-08-2014, 02:32 AM
Bosh once again getting hosed in these discussions.

People are a bunch of flip floppers on here. Won't give Bosh his due, but then claim the Heat are stacked.

because the PF position is stacked as hell, he just isnt top 5...

MichaelCorleone
02-08-2014, 02:33 AM
His what? Bosh has zero case for top 5.
Bosh is a top 10-15 PF. Nobody is saying he's top 5.

Dbrog
02-08-2014, 02:34 AM
1] Blake Griffin
2] Anthony Davis
3] Kevin Love
4] LaMarcus Aldridge
5] Dirk Nowitzki

Probably the closest. I would put Davis #1 since I value defense more but not mad at Griffin over him :cheers:

All Net
02-08-2014, 02:35 AM
Bosh isn't consistant enough for top 5.

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
02-08-2014, 02:36 AM
Bosh is a center ever since Lebron moved to power forward in Miami

Lebron
LMA
Melo
Dirk
Love

MichaelCorleone
02-08-2014, 02:36 AM
:biggums: :roll:
1. Lamarcus Aldridge
2. Blake Griffin
3. Dirk Nowitzki
4. Anthony Davis
5. Kevin Love
6. Serge Ibaka
7. Tim Duncan
8. David Lee
9. Paul Milsap
10. Kenneth Faried
11. Chris Bosh

noob cake
02-08-2014, 02:37 AM
Davis
LMA
Bosh
Dirk
Griffin
Love

DirkNowitzki41
02-08-2014, 02:38 AM
1. Davis
2. Griffin
3. Dirk
4. Love
5. Aldridge

moe94
02-08-2014, 02:38 AM
1. Lamarcus Aldridge
2. Blake Griffin
3. Dirk Nowitzki
4. Anthony Davis
5. Kevin Love
6. Serge Ibaka
7. Tim Duncan
8. David Lee
9. Paul Milsap
10. Kenneth Faried
11. Chris Bosh
:oldlol:

plowking
02-08-2014, 02:39 AM
There is no way in hell, LMA is a better player than Chris Bosh. There is absolutely no case for it. Hes better at what exactly?
Bosh is literally LMA while being better at everything LMA is. Hes better from the midrange, a better FT shooter, a better defender, etc.
Hes literally better at all of LMA's strongest points.

oarabbus
02-08-2014, 02:39 AM
1. Lamarcus Aldridge
2. Blake Griffin
3. Dirk Nowitzki
4. Anthony Davis
5. Kevin Love
6. Serge Ibaka
7. Tim Duncan
8. David Lee
9. Paul Milsap
10. Kenneth Faried
11. Chris Bosh

:biggums:

Milsap and Faried above Bosh? :wtf:

MichaelCorleone
02-08-2014, 02:40 AM
There is no way in hell, LMA is a better player than Chris Bosh. There is absolutely no case for it. Hes better at what exactly?
Bosh is literally LMA while being better at everything LMA is. Hes better from the midrange, a better FT shooter, a better defender, etc.
Hes literally better at all of LMA's strongest points.
No he isn't.

Aldridge is a better midrange shooter, better post player, better rebounder, better defender, and far more clutch than Bosh.

MichaelCorleone
02-08-2014, 02:41 AM
:biggums:

Milsap and Faried above Bosh? :wtf:
3 of them interchangeable in positions.

Chris Bosh is at best a top 10 PF in the league and that is already pushing it.

moe94
02-08-2014, 02:42 AM
No he isn't.

Aldridge is a better midrange shooter, better post player, better rebounder, better defender, and far more clutch than Bosh.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LvmA8LW08Bc/UvWcLUv6rOI/AAAAAAAACI8/FxQK4P8HDNE/s1600/1.gif

He's clutch for the opponent, that's for sure.

qrich
02-08-2014, 02:42 AM
There is no way in hell, LMA is a better player than Chris Bosh. There is absolutely no case for it. Hes better at what exactly?
Bosh is literally LMA while being better at everything LMA is. Hes better from the midrange, a better FT shooter, a better defender, etc.
Hes literally better at all of LMA's strongest points.

Bosh is grabbing 6.8 boards per night, with LeBron ahead of him at 6.9 and Wade behind him with 4.7. Is a league's top 5 power forward supposed to be that weak on the boards?

MichaelCorleone
02-08-2014, 02:43 AM
And this too, if was Bosh was a 1st option he'd be probably be borderline top 5 atleast
Too bad for him he's a THIRD option on his team.

plowking
02-08-2014, 02:47 AM
No he isn't.

Aldridge is a better midrange shooter, better post player, better rebounder, better defender, and far more clutch than Bosh.

Rebounder? Maybe, and that started this year.
Midrange? Its not close. Bosh shoots in the high 40's from their, Aldridge in the low 40's. Its clear cut Bosh.
Better defender? Its not close again. Bosh is more mobile, puts up better defensive stats, and defends the pick and roll better than any big in the league.
Far more clutch? Based on what? Bosh has hit numerous clutch shots and closed out teams, like Portland for example with a gamewinner... Not to mention rebounding in game 6... I don't think Aldridge has the resume to match Bosh's big moments.
Better post player? Don't know. Could be.

MichaelCorleone
02-08-2014, 02:48 AM
Rebounder? Maybe, and that started this year.
Midrange? Its not close. Bosh shoots in the high 40's from their, Aldridge in the low 40's. Its clear cut Bosh.
Better defender? Its not close again. Bosh is more mobile, puts up better defensive stats, and defends the pick and roll better than any big in the league.
Far more clutch? Based on what? Bosh has hit numerous clutch shots and closed out teams, like Portland for example with a gamewinner... Not to mention rebounding in game 6... I don't think Aldridge has the resume to match Bosh's big moments.
Better post player? Don't know. Could be.
Replace Bosh with Aldridge and the Heat will win 3-5 more rings GUARANTEED. I know LMA won't put up a 0pt game 7.

plowking
02-08-2014, 02:50 AM
Bosh is grabbing 6.8 boards per night, with LeBron ahead of him at 6.9 and Wade behind him with 4.7. Is a league's top 5 power forward supposed to be that weak on the boards?

Hes a bad rebounder, but prior to this season, so was Aldridge... And Bosh isn't as good as he could be due to defensive schemes, lots of rotating, and playing away from the basket. He pulls down 7 boards in 30 minutes. Not exactly horrible considering everything.

I never claimed him to be a great rebounder, but neither is Aldridge.

Jameerthefear
02-08-2014, 02:50 AM
Can someone please ban MichealCorleone again? Worst poster I have ever seen and you guys just won't stop quoting him.

qrich
02-08-2014, 02:51 AM
I think he only plays around 30 minutes a night, and a lot of the time becuase of the heats defensive scheme he is a bit further away from the basket than most bigs. Still though he isnt really a good rebounder.

He plays 31.4, but his per36 is only 7.8. A top 5 power forward just can not gobble up that little rebounds without an elite boarder next to him.


Hes a bad rebounder, but prior to this season, so was Aldridge... And Bosh isn't as good as he could be due to defensive schemes, lots of rotating, and playing away from the basket. He pulls down 7 boards in 30 minutes. Not exactly horrible considering everything.

I never claimed him to be a great rebounder, but neither is Aldridge.

7 boards in 31 isn't atrocious, but considering that the he's #2 with the leader being just ahead and #3 being a couple of rebounds back shows a lack of crashing the boards.

plowking
02-08-2014, 02:53 AM
Replace Bosh with Aldridge and the Heat will win 3-5 more rings GUARANTEED. I know LMA won't put up a 0pt game 7.

Aldridge might not get the rebound to get it to game 7.

If that's your logic start of with, then your shit at evaluating basketball from the get go anyway.

Warfan
02-08-2014, 02:53 AM
He plays 31.4, but his per36 is only 7.8. A top 5 power forward just can not gobble up that little rebounds without an elite boarder next to him.

Yeah i agree, i dont really feel he is a top 5 power forward but i do think he gets underrated

MichaelCorleone
02-08-2014, 02:55 AM
Aldridge might not get the rebound to get it to game 7.

If that's your logic start of with, then your shit at evaluating basketball from the get go anyway.
Duncan wasn't on the floor, Aldridge would have gotten the rebound all the same.

Meticode
02-08-2014, 03:09 AM
Aldridge is a better PF now than Bosh is for me. I will say this, Aldright is NOT playing better than Bosh ever has. Before Bosh left Toronto he was putting up the same type of numbers Aldridgeis right now.

Bigsmoke
02-08-2014, 03:41 AM
Bosh once again getting hosed in these discussions.

People are a bunch of flip floppers on here. Won't give Bosh his due, but then claim the Heat are stacked.


Bosh isn't better than LA, Blake, Dirk, Love, or Davis and there is no need to sugar coat it

wally_world
02-08-2014, 03:50 AM
1. LaMarcus Aldridge
2. Kevin Love
3. Anthony Davis
4/5. Dirk Nowitzki / Blake Griffin

People hatin on Love too much because his team doesn't win. But don't forget AD is leading his Pelicans to the lottery as well.

noob cake
02-08-2014, 03:56 AM
1. LaMarcus Aldridge
2. Kevin Love
3. Anthony Davis
4/5. Dirk Nowitzki / Blake Griffin

People hatin on Love too much because his team doesn't win. But don't forget AD is leading his Pelicans to the lottery as well.

5 year veteran with a team trying to contend vs 20 year old sophomore.

oarabbus
02-08-2014, 04:00 AM
Bosh is grabbing 6.8 boards per night, with LeBron ahead of him at 6.9 and Wade behind him with 4.7. Is a league's top 5 power forward supposed to be that weak on the boards?

He is a top 6-8 PF at worst. If he was on any team he'd be pushing outside top 5.

Switch him for Dirk/Davis/LMA/Love/Griffin and I don't think those teams would be much worse off, if at all. Or do you think that if this Pelicans team had Bosh instead of Davis, they'd be much worse than they are now? (22-27). Bosh may even improve the T-wolves straight up due to his much better defense compared to Kevin Love.

qrich
02-08-2014, 04:08 AM
He is a top 6-8 PF at worst. If he was on any team he'd be pushing outside top 5.

Switch him for Dirk/Davis/LMA/Love/Griffin and I don't think those teams would be much worse off, if at all. Or do you think that if this Pelicans team had Bosh instead of Davis, they'd be much worse than they are now? (22-27). Bosh may even improve the T-wolves straight up due to his much better defense compared to Kevin Love.

And add any of those guys to the Heat, and they are a much tougher side to beat. Davis covers the biggest weakness that Miami has, with a solid defensive big and rebounding. Blake isn't a great defender but his rebounding would definitely be a plus (nearly 10 a game, sharing the court with DJ who is grabbing around 14). Dirk and Aldridge are pretty similar, but Aldridge has earned getting the nod with his improvement on the boards (though he is ridiculously overrated now. A PF taking 21 shots to score 24 is nasty). Dirk is efficient as well.

AngelEyes
02-08-2014, 04:09 AM
As of right now...

1. Griffin
2. Aldridge
3. Davis
4. Love

MichaelCorleone
02-08-2014, 04:15 AM
Like I always say, Serge Ibaka is the most underrated big in the league right now.

NOT ONE mention of the guy.:facepalm

AngelEyes
02-08-2014, 04:16 AM
Like I always say, Serge Ibaka is the most underrated big in the league right now.

NOT ONE mention of the guy.:facepalm

Without Durant his offense would suffer mightily. People don't bring up his name for good reason.

bdreason
02-08-2014, 04:18 AM
Based on production this season?


1. Aldridge
2. Griffin
3. Davis
4. Love
5. Dirk

Honorable mentions;

Duncan
Ibaka
Bosh

Legends66NBA7
02-08-2014, 04:36 AM
Bosh is a center this season, is he not ?

R.I.P.
02-08-2014, 05:46 AM
5 year veteran with a team trying to contend vs 20 year old sophomore.

...who is also missing his starting PG, starting C and 6th man. :lol

wally_world
02-08-2014, 06:30 AM
5 year veteran with a team trying to contend vs 20 year old sophomore.

Isn't this ranking based on current players? Who cares how experienced/young/old the player is :rolleyes:

turnaroundJ
02-08-2014, 07:22 AM
Not one mention of Zach Randolph? He's definitely top 10.

Blake
LMA
Love
Dirk
Davis

Timmy
Z-Bo
Bosh
Gasol
Ibaka

HM: Paul Trillsap

T_L_P
02-08-2014, 07:30 AM
1. Aldridge
2. Davis
3. Griffin
4. Love
5a. Duncan
5b. Nowitzki

russwest0
02-08-2014, 07:30 AM
1. Aldridge
2. Davis
3. Griffin
4. Love
5. Duncan
6. Nowitzki

Duncan is a center.

T_L_P
02-08-2014, 07:35 AM
Duncan is a center.

No, Splitter is our center.

Oh, wait, unless you're talking about play styles...in which case Dirk is a Small Forward.

JebronLames
02-08-2014, 07:36 AM
Based on production this season?


1. Aldridge
2. Griffin
3. Davis
4. Love
5. Dirk

Honorable mentions;

Duncan
Ibaka
Bosh

David lee?

russwest0
02-08-2014, 07:37 AM
No, Splitter is our center.

Oh, wait, unless you're talking about play styles...in which case Dirk is a Small Forward.

Splitter is your PF.

T_L_P
02-08-2014, 07:37 AM
Splitter is your PF.


:facepalm

fragokota
02-08-2014, 07:38 AM
1. Kevin love
2. Blake griffin
3. LMA
4. Dirk nowitzki
5. Anthony Davis

alenleomessi
02-08-2014, 07:50 AM
im not even going to read any of the posts, but kill yourself if you dont have blake AT LEAST top 2

retaxis
02-08-2014, 10:37 AM
Blake is 3rd in MVP voting right now so technically he would be the best PF in the league.

Some players however have more skills then Blake e.g. LMA, CB, Dirk, KL.

Blake at the moment is a good spot up shooter/triple threat shooter but he does not have the skill set of the above to shoot off the dribble with great accuracy as well. If he did...we will be looking at a split between LBJ, KD, BG.

I think Blake is still a bit mechanical at the moment and needs to 'loosen' up a bit. He seems to try to 'go into moves' rather then play ball as an art with flow and rhythm.

russwest0
02-08-2014, 10:38 AM
Anthony Davis
Blake Griffin
LaMarcus Aldridge
Dirk Nowitzki
Kevin Love
Serge Ibaka

maybeshewill13
02-08-2014, 10:40 AM
LMA
Griffin
Davis
Love
Dirk

Haks
02-08-2014, 11:27 AM
Lol people using team record to rank a sophomore like even the great lebron james didnt lead his team to the playoffs in his second year yet people were raving on about him.

Anthony Davis is the best defender at the power forward position, the best rim protector and the most efficient after blake.
the difference in offense between blake love and AD IS too significant to ignore and that difference doesnt supersede the difference in offense between the two which isnt that big.
1. Anthony Davis
2. Lamarcus Aldridge
3. Blake Griffin
4. Kevin Love
5. Dirk Nowitzki

Olacinco
02-08-2014, 11:31 AM
1. Lamarcus Aldridge
2. Anthony davis
3. David lee
4. Paul millsap
5. Kevin Love
6. Blake griffin
7. Serge ibaka

HOoopCityJones
02-08-2014, 12:16 PM
LMA
Blake Griffin
Kevin Love
Bosh
Anthony Davis
Serge Ibaka

DMAVS41
02-08-2014, 12:42 PM
I just can't see the argument for Love over LA, Griffin, or Dirk this year.

His team is 24-26...we just can't ignore that.

Especially when comparing Love to Dirk so far. The help is pretty similar. And Dirk's team is 30-21.

Hard to rank Anthony Davis. But I just wouldn't take him for a playoff series over LA, Dirk, Griffin, or Love.

Also, I don't know the exact numbers, but over the last 6 games...Dirk is at something around 28 ppg on 75% TS...it's been pretty insane.

Dirk's defense has dropped off for sure, but his offense to date this year has been every bit as good as it was in 2011.

Per 36 in 2011 and 2014

24/7/3 61% TS in 11

24/7/3 60% TS in 14

Not bad...

NumberSix
02-08-2014, 01:21 PM
Bosh

Kingwillball
02-08-2014, 01:23 PM
Blake, Dirk,LA,Love,Davis,Serge,Bosh,Lee,Milsap

Kingwillball
02-08-2014, 01:24 PM
1. Lamarcus Aldridge
2. Anthony davis
3. David lee
4. Paul millsap
5. Kevin Love
6. Blake griffin
7. Serge ibaka


This list is terrible :hammerhead:

BuffaloBill
02-08-2014, 01:32 PM
1. Lamarcus Aldridge
2. Anthony davis
3. David lee
4. Paul millsap
5. Kevin Love
6. Blake griffin
7. Serge ibaka


Sorry but this might be the worst list I've seen so far. Please tell me you're joking.

rmt
02-08-2014, 04:07 PM
Splitter is your PF.

When Splitter plays with Duncan, he is the center on offense and PF on defense. When he plays with anyone else (Diaw/Bonner), he's the center. He doesn't play with Ayres.


Duncan

For a single playoff game or series, I'd pick Duncan as my big man. But for the regular season, I'd pick Aldridge this year.

Inferno
02-08-2014, 04:28 PM
1. Griffin
2. Love
3. AD / LMA
4. Dirk

HOoopCityJones
02-08-2014, 04:31 PM
I just can't see the argument for Love over LA, Griffin, or Dirk this year.

His team is 24-26...we just can't ignore that.

Especially when comparing Love to Dirk so far. The help is pretty similar. And Dirk's team is 30-21.

Hard to rank Anthony Davis. But I just wouldn't take him for a playoff series over LA, Dirk, Griffin, or Love.

Also, I don't know the exact numbers, but over the last 6 games...Dirk is at something around 28 ppg on 75% TS...it's been pretty insane.

Dirk's defense has dropped off for sure, but his offense to date this year has been every bit as good as it was in 2011.

Per 36 in 2011 and 2014

24/7/3 61% TS in 11

24/7/3 60% TS in 14

Not bad...

I'm starting to think you're J.J. Barea dude. :coleman:

SHABBA
02-08-2014, 06:04 PM
1. Dirk
2. Lee
3. Love
4. Pau
5. Ilyasova

Half a mention to Griffin.

Human Error
02-08-2014, 08:47 PM
1. Anthony Davis
2. Blake Griffin
3. LaMarcus Aldridge
4. Dirk Nowitzki
5. Chris Bosh

Fiasco
02-08-2014, 09:29 PM
Anthony Davis is the best power forward but his team is 22-27.

Ok.

eklip
02-08-2014, 11:13 PM
I didn't know that Davis is so overrated.

New Orleans' record is 18-22 when Davis plays more than 10 minutes.
It is 4-5 against tough opponents when Davis played less than 11 minutes.

The team would have a better record with Aldridge, Dirk, Love or Griffin. People just assume that Davis always makes the right decisions on defense just because he is athletic and has high steal and block numbers. On offense he doesn't make it much easier for his teammates which the other 4 PFs certainly do. I would take Ryan Anderson over him on offense.

He has the potential to be the best PF in the future, but right now he isn't in the top 4. At least the coaches seem to agree with me in the all-star voting.

AnaheimLakers24
02-08-2014, 11:15 PM
dirk
lamarcus
blake
bosh
love/davis (both losers on loser teams)

qrich
02-09-2014, 06:24 AM
Blake in the last four, 35.0/11.3/4.0 with only 1.8 turnovers in 35.9 minutes on 23 shots per night (55.4%). 23.9/9.8/3.5 with 1.2 steals/0.6 blocks to 2.7 turnovers on 16.7 shots (53.3%) in 36.2 minutes. All of this while playing with Jordan grabbing 14 per night to lead the league. But he isn't top 3 huh.