Is Durant having the best season of any perimeter player since 98 Jordan?

[ssginc]

35 year old Jordan led the league in scoring in 98, and carried the Bulls to 62 wins despite Pippen (38), Kukoc (8) and Kerr (32) missing 78 games between them.

Durant is leading the league in scoring this year, and he's carried OKC to the best record in the stacked WC despite Westbrook missing 40% of the Thunders' games.

This begs the question: Is Durant having the best season of any perimeter player since 98 Jordan, in terms of doing so much with so little help around him?

[NumberSix]

He's not even having a better season than LeBrons' 3rd best Cavs season.

[SpecialQue]

No.

[Fudge]

Yes.

[Smook A.]

He's in the top 10

[SpecialQue]

Durant sucks.

[Black and White]

Ok this is taking it too far.

[Milbuck]

no

[GoranDragon]

No.

[lebeast666]

You must be 14 years old

[NumberSix]

Y'all act like Durant is the first player to average 30 points for half a season.

[Cold soul]

Nope not even close. Maybe top 5 season of any perimeter play ever.

[moe94]

Wade
LeBron
T-Mac
Kobe

[ssginc]

He's not even having a better season than LeBrons' 3rd best Cavs season.

LeBron's Cavs played in the god awful weak EC. Don't even go there.

[JohnFreeman]

No.

[tpols]

You could look up stretches from 09 Wade, 06/07/03 Kobe, 09/10 Lebron, shit even 08 Chris Paul and 03 Tmac that would look better than Durants current.. which is still great.

[IncarceratedBob]

What makes 98 Jordan better than current Durant??

[JohnFreeman]

You could look up stretches from 09 Wade, 06/07/03 Kobe, 09/10 Lebron, shit even 08 Chris Paul and 03 Tmac that would look better than Durants current.. which is still great.
This.

[NumberSix]

LeBron's Cavs played in the god awful weak EC. Don't even go there.
The east has ALWAYS had better defenses though. The production LeBron put up on those defenses is far beyond what Durant has done for half a season.

[NumberSix]

What makes 98 Jordan better than current Durant??
He's just using that as a time frame.

[Illuminati]

:facepalm

[ssginc]

Wade
LeBron
T-Mac
Kobe


Wade and Lebron are / were playing in the horribly weak EC; Kobe never had a season near as good as KD is having (from an individual standpoint as well as winning without much help).

T-Mac I am forgetting. What did he do?

[SavageMode]

The east has ALWAYS had better defenses though. The production LeBron put up on those defenses is far beyond what Durant has done for half a season.
This. Boston and Detroits defenses throughout the 2000's were unreal. People like to overrate Lebron by downplaying him playing in the East but the East was much more respectable 10 years ago.

[cos88]

jan 14 worst class ever

op = anthony bennett

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Wade
LeBron
T-Mac
Kobe
dis.
prime iverson was WAY better too
they all had to fight not FLOP for FT attempts.
Durant gets built up by the league cuz lebron needs a true rival:facepalm

[215Philly]

jan 14 worst class ever

op = anthony bennett
:oldlol:

[JBrizzy]

Jordan smoked crack. We shouldn't be giving him any respect.

[ssginc]

The east has ALWAYS had better defenses though. The production LeBron put up on those defenses is far beyond what Durant has done for half a season.

The EC has never been as weak as it's been the last 10 years. If James / Wade played with those Cavs / Heat teams in the WC they would be lucky to even make the playoffs.

[red1]

why

[russwest0]

Y'all act like Durant is the first player to average 30 points for half a season.

30 points on 50/40/88?

[ssginc]

You could look up stretches from 09 Wade, 06/07/03 Kobe, 09/10 Lebron, shit even 08 Chris Paul and 03 Tmac that would look better than Durants current.. which is still great.


I'm talking about both individual dominance and team success (without a stacked roster).

[MfC93]

yes i feel like i have been sprinkled with pixie dust wtf is going on

[JohnFreeman]

The EChas never been as weak as it's been the last 10 years. If James / Wade played with those Cavs / Heat teams in the WC they would be lucky to even make the playoffs.
Simply untrue.

[r0drig0lac]

Ok this is taking it too far.this

[SamuraiSWISH]

2013 LeBron
2012 LeBron
2010 LeBron
2009 LeBron
2009 Wade
2006 Kobe
2003 T-Mac

Were the best perimeter seasons from a player since '97 Jordan. Each of those is probably better than 1998 Jordan, IMO. No shame in that though, because none of them are touching MJ's stretch from '88 - '97.

[NumberSix]

2013 LeBron
2012 LeBron
2010 LeBron
2009 LeBron
2009 Wade
2006 Kobe
2003 T-Mac

Were the best perimeter seasons from a player since '97 Jordan. Each of those is probably better than 1998 Jordan, IMO. No shame in that though, because none of them are touching MJ's stretch from '88 - '97.
I'd put 2012 LeBron above 2013

[ssginc]

Simply untrue.


Oh it's absolutely true. The EC has never been weaker than it's been the last 10 years or so.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobe 05-06

[SamuraiSWISH]

I'd put 2012 LeBron above 2013
Me too, because of playoffs though. I'm just talking regular season. LeBron was booty in the 2013 playoffs against ATROCIOUS competition. If we're including playoffs ... the only perimeter seasons better than '98 Jordan in totality have been:

2012 LeBron
2009 LeBron

[ssginc]

2013 LeBron
2012 LeBron
2010 LeBron
2009 LeBron
2009 Wade
2006 Kobe
2003 T-Mac

Were the best perimeter seasons from a player since '97 Jordan. Each of those is probably better than 1998 Jordan, IMO. No shame in that though, because none of them are touching MJ's stretch from '88 - '97.


Re-read the OP. I'm not talking about individual performance only.

[MASH Transit]

Yes.

[JohnFreeman]

I'm talking about both individual dominance and team success (without a stacked roster).
None of the players mentioned were on stacked teams.

[ssginc]

Kobe 05-06

The 06 Lakers won only 45 games that year.

[tpols]

I'm talking about both individual dominance and team success (without a stacked roster).
I agree Durants team isnt stacked, but it is for sure better than what Wade, Tmac and Kobe had in their peak seasons 06/07, 03, and 09, and probably a little better than what Lebron had in Cleveland.

[tpols]

Me too, because of playoffs though. I'm just talking regular season. LeBron was booty in the 2013 playoffs against ATROCIOUS competition. If we're including playoffs ... the only perimeter seasons better than '98 Jordan in totality have been:

2012 LeBron
2009 LeBron
How can you make that claim when we havent seen what Durant does in the playoffs lol

[SamuraiSWISH]

How can you make that claim when we havent seen what Durant does in the playoffs lol
That's why I didn't mention Durant's 2014 yet ...

:rolleyes:

[DaOldLion]

The 06 Lakers won only 45 games that year.

look at the roster

[ssginc]

None of the players mentioned were on stacked teams.


2012 and 2013 Heat weren't stacked?

ROFL

The 2009 and 2010 Cavs and 2009 Heat played in the horribly weak EC. Kobe's 06 Lakers won only 45 games while KD has the Westbrook-less Thunder on pace to win 63 games in the stacked WC.

Sorry, Durant has been much more impressive so far.

T Mac in 03? Not a chance. His Magic won only 42 games AND his individual production was not as good as Durant has been so far this year.

Come on.

[ssginc]

look at the roster


Not much worse than these Thunder without Westbrook, and KD has this OKC squad on pace to win 63 games (18 more than Kobe's 06 Lakers managed).

[kobeef24]

LeBron's Cavs played in the god awful weak EC. Don't even go there.

People always bring this up but didn't they do better vs west teams than east? I don't know for sure but remember seeing this somewhere. So much hate on this thread. Why can't people just like all the players? They're all great for different reasons.

[ssginc]

I agree Durants team isnt stacked, but it is for sure better than what Wade, Tmac and Kobe had in their peak seasons 06/07, 03, and 09, and probably a little better than what Lebron had in Cleveland.


Not a chance man, come on. Perkins, Thabo, Lamb, Jackson, Collison, 100 year old Fisher?? This team has no business being atop the stacked WC. None. Plus, you can't overlook the fact that the guys you mentioned (save for Kobe) played in a terribly weak EC.

Durant is carrying OKC, and his dominance is elevating the play of a roster full of role players and bench warmers.

[tpols]

2012 and 2013 Heat weren't stacked?

ROFL

The 2009 and 2010 Cavs and 2009 Heat played in the horribly weak EC. Kobe's 06 Lakers won only 45 games (KD has the Westbrook-less Thunder on pace to win 63 games in the stacked WC.

Sorry, Durant has been much more impressive so far.

T Mac in 03? Not a chance. His Magic won only 42 games AND his individual production was not as good as Durant has been so far this year.

Come on.
All we can compare so far is regular seasons.. first halves actually since Durant hasnt gone any farther than that.

And Lebron's teams in the regular season had a better winning percentage versus the West than they did vs the east in that time frame. So the Cavs winning in the regular season had little to do with being in the weak east.


And Tmac and Kobe both had worse supporting casts than Durant has. Reggie Jackson has been great in Westbrook's absence.. the guys averaging 18/5/5 on better percentages than WB. He has lamb for a sixth man which is quality.. the best shotblocker in the league and in general a frontline that can defend and rebound at a high level.. theyre the second best rebounding team in the league but that kind of help generally goes unnoticed. Lebron had the same thing in Cleveland but no one ever dares bring it up.


Durants cast is average.. Kobe, Wade and Tmac were playing with garabge at most positions.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

2012 and 2013 Heat weren't stacked?

ROFL

The 2009 and 2010 Cavs and 2009 Heat played in the horribly weak EC. Kobe's 06 Lakers won only 45 games (KD has the Westbrook-less Thunder on pace to win 63 games in the stacked WC.

Sorry, Durant has been much more impressive so far.

T Mac in 03? Not a chance. His Magic won only 42 games AND his individual production was not as good as Durant has been so far this year.

Come on.
if stacked means old injured team in your language than yes they were stacked

[ssginc]

People always bring this up but didn't they do better vs west teams than east? I don't know for sure but remember seeing this somewhere. So much hate on this thread. Why can't people just like all the players? They're all great for different reasons.

I didn't start the thread out of hate (lol), I started it to give props to Durant for what he's doing with a roster full of role players in a stacked WC.

[knicksman]

in fact I would say hes better than jordan. Only rings is lacking

[GoranDragon]

in fact I would say hes better than jordan. Only rings is lacking
Not better than Jordan. Please.:facepalm

[SamuraiSWISH]

in fact I would say hes better than jordan. Only rings is lacking
:biggums:

Really ...

Really ?!?!

[ssginc]

All we can compare so far is regular seasons.. first halves actually since Durant hasnt gone any farther than that.

And Lebron's teams in the regular season had a better winning percentage versus the West than they did vs the east in that time frame. So the Cavs winning in the regular season had little to do with being in the weak east.


And Tmac and Kobe both had worse supporting casts than Durant has. Reggie Jackson has been great in Westbrook's absence.. the guys averaging 18/5/5 on better percentages than WB. He has lamb for a sixth man which is quality.. the best shotblocker in the league and in general a frontline that can defend and rebound at a high level.. theyre the second best rebounding team in the league but that kind of help generally goes unnoticed. Lebron had the same thing in Cleveland but no one ever dares bring it up.


Durants cast is average.. Kobe, Wade and Tmac were playing with garabge at most positions.


Durant's cast is average? Are you kidding? Take him off the team and they're lucky to win 30 games.

[knicksman]

durant scores effortlessly than jordan. and if durant wins his 1st ring this season. Hes gonnna win consecutive rings until the age of 34 or more. he will have more prime years than jordan

[Jacks3]

hes only played 18 games without westbrook and his supporting cast sans russ is still easily better than what 06-07 kobe cleveland lebron 09-10 wade had. c'mon son.

[ssginc]

if stacked means old injured team in your language than yes they were stacked


Two All Stars (and future HOFERS) in Wade and Bosh, another future HOF (and one of the most clutch players in NBA history - who last season literally saved Lebron's legacy from going down the toilet) in Ray Allen, a plethora of lights out 3-point shooters, and one of the best defensive units in the league IS most certainly AND without question a stacked roster.

In fact, relative to the respective competition in the league the 2012 / 2013 / 2014 Heat may be the most stacked roster since the 60's Celtics.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Smh. Kids now-a-days. He has a hot stretch spanning a couple of games and he's suddenly having the best season for a perimeter player since '98 :facepalm

[Illuminati]

Bruh, you're ****ing crazy if you don't think Durant's supporting cast isn't tons better than Wade/Kobe/LBJ peak years. Ibaka and Reggie Jackson >>>>> anyone one on those teams.

[ssginc]

durant scores effortlessly than jordan. and if durant wins his 1st ring this season. Hes gonnna win consecutive rings until the age of 34 or more. he will have more prime years than jordan

Well that's not true, but regardless this is not a Durant / Jordan comparison thread so please don't even go there.

[tpols]

Durant's cast is average? Are you kidding? Take him off the team and they're lucky to win 30 games.
And the 06/07 Lakers, 09 Heat, and 03 magic w/o mac, wade and kobe would literally be sub 15 win teams.

A lineup of smush parker/devean george/luke walton/Chris Mihm being led by Lamar Odom might win the draft lotto.. likewise for a Miami team being led by michael Beasley and an ancient Jermaine Oneal.

The thunder dont have as many glaring holes and sub par players at each position. They have a consistent frontline that goes out and wins rebounding battles and defends the rim. Theyre an average team being compared to below average ones.

[ssginc]

Smh. Kids now-a-days. He has a hot stretch spanning a couple of games and he's suddenly having the best season for a perimeter player since '98 :facepalm


Clearly you didn't read the OP in its entirety. Perhaps next time you should do so BEFORE posting.

[knicksman]

hes only played 18 games without westbrook and his supporting cast sans russ is still easily better than what 06-07 kobe cleveland lebron 09-10 wade had. c'mon son.

1 all>>>0 all star

[houston]

nah

[ssginc]

Bruh, you're ****ing crazy if you don't think Durant's supporting cast isn't tons better than Wade/Kobe/LBJ peak years. Ibaka and Reggie Jackson >>>>> anyone one on those teams.



Take Durant off the team and Reggie Jackson gets shredded.

Ibaka? Nice role player.

What else you got?

[knicksman]

Bruh, you're ****ing crazy if you don't think Durant's supporting cast isn't tons better than Wade/Kobe/LBJ peak years. Ibaka and Reggie Jackson >>>>> anyone one on those teams.



:oldlol:

They are comparable. the difference is that durant can go another level than those guys.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Clearly you didn't read the OP in its entirety. Perhaps next time you should do so BEFORE posting.

Answer's still no :confusedshrug:

Lebron, Wade '09
Kobe '06
TMac '03

Just off the top of my head, all these guys did at least just as well. And the season's not even over yet. Plus, Durant's played like what, 15 games without Westbrook? Compared to the other guys, who did it for the entire season.

[ssginc]

And the 06/07 Lakers, 09 Heat, and 03 magic w/o mac, wade and kobe would literally be sub 15 win teams.

A lineup of smush parker/devean george/luke walton/Chris Mihm being led by Lamar Odom might win the draft lotto.. likewise for a Miami team being led by michael Beasley and an ancient Jermaine Oneal.

The thunder dont have as many glaring holes and sub par players at each position. They have a consistent frontline that goes out and wins rebounding battles and defends the rim. Theyre an average team being compared to below average ones.


You can argue which supporting cast is worse, I'll give you that. But those teams sucked even with Kobe / Wade / TMac. Durant has a poor-to-mediocre team (AT BEST) sitting on top of a stacked WC.

Also, 07 Kobe, 09 Wade, and 03 T Mac weren't as good individually as Durant has been so far this year, and again, I'm looking at both sides of the fence here (individual and team).

[ssginc]

:oldlol:

They are comparable. the difference is that durant can go another level than those guys.


This ^

[Solefade]

jan 14 worst class ever

op = anthony bennett

:roll:

[ssginc]

Answer's still no :confusedshrug:

Lebron, Wade '09
Kobe '06
TMac '03

Just off the top of my head, all these guys did at least just as well. And the season's not even over yet. Plus, Durant's played like what, 15 games without Westbrook? Compared to the other guys, who did it for the entire season.

Did what? The 09 Heat won 43 games in a weak EC. The 06 Lakers won 45 games, and the 03 Magic won 42 games. What exactly did Wade / Kobe / TMac "do" those years insofar as team success?

Durant, on the other hand, has led what would be a lottery team without him to the best record in the WC (and 2nd best record overall).

No contest.

As for the 09 Cavs, that team had a Top 3 Defense, Top 4 Offense, they finished #2 in 3-point shooting percentage and Top 7 in Rebounding.

[tpols]

You can argue which supporting cast is worse, I'll give you that. But those teams sucked even with Kobe / Wade / TMac. Durant has a poor-to-mediocre team (AT BEST) sitting on top of a stacked WC.

Also, 07 Kobe, 09 Wade, and 03 T Mac weren't as good individually as Durant has been so far this year, and again, I'm looking at both sides of the fence here (individual and team).
Well if you're looking at it from team perspective.. Westbrook played in 25 games this year.. thats more than half the total so far. Combine that with having a better supporting cast than Kobe/Mac/Wade and arguably Bron and it gets murky.

It'd be one thing if WB didnt even lace them up.. hes been on the court more than hes been off it so far.



And from an individual standpoint KD is putting up 37/6/6 on great percentages.. But Kobe put up a 43/6/4 in January 06. Wade put up a 37/10/6 in a ten plus game stretch in 09.

37/6/6 is great, but better has been done. Durant's efficiency is also partly padded by all the FTs he get that would be missed shots or TOs if called correctly. As far as offensive brilliance from offensive players eye test Kobe, Mac, Bron, and Wade have all done more memorable and theres no way you can definitively say Durants current stretch is better than any of theirs.

[Cold soul]

Well if you're looking at it from team perspective.. Westbrook played in 25 games this year.. thats more than half the total so far. Combine that with having a better supporting cast than Kobe/Mac/Wade and arguably Bron and it gets murky.

It'd be one thing if WB didnt even lace them up.. hes been on the court more than hes been off it so far.



And from an individual standpoint KD is putting up 37/6/6 on great percentages.. But Kobe put up a 43/6/4 in January 06. Wade put up a 37/10/6 in a ten plus game stretch in 09.

37/6/6 is great, but better has been done. Durant's efficiency is also partly padded by all the FTs he get that would be missed shots or TOs if called correctly. As far as offensive brilliance from offensive players eye test Kobe, Mac, Bron, and Wade have all done more memorable and theres no way you can definitively say Durants current stretch is better than any of theirs.

Tremendous post. Most of these kids picking Durant are prisoners of the moment.

[Dave3]

I said yesterday that this is probably the best scoring streak I've seen since starting to watch basketball in 2001 (yes I think it's as good as Kobe's, if not slightly better). But overall game and overall season? It's still not as good overall as a couple by Kobe, LeBron, and Wade's '09 (hell, even Tmac's '03 is on the table). If he keeps this up for the rest of the year however (including playoffs), he does rival Kobe/Wade's best years in my opinion, and probably even LeBron's (I don't know what exact stats he'd have if he kept playing like this, but I'm sure Joyner knows everything to the 10th decimal place, though probably overestimated as usual).

[aaronrodgers777]

Two All Stars (and future HOFERS) in Wade and Bosh, another future HOF (and one of the most clutch players in NBA history - who last season literally saved Lebron's legacy from going down the toilet) in Ray Allen, a plethora of lights out 3-point shooters, and one of the best defensive units in the league IS most certainly AND without question a stacked roster.

In fact, relative to the respective competition in the league the 2012 / 2013 / 2014 Heat may be the most stacked roster since the 60's Celtics.
May I remind you that Lebron has most points in elimination games, game 7s than any nba player, and that caviliers won only 19 games when lebron james left, they went from 66,61 games to 19 games. biggest dropoff when a certain player leaves a team. Witthout lebrons 18 points in the fourth quarter that three would not matter. Plus there was still overtime and sgane seven and sperms just choked, and ray allen played like crap.37 points and 15 rebounds in game seven, when has durant have a line liike that. Also cavs have the worst loosing streak when lebron left
Would you think as highly of Magic Johnson if he got stuck on the Clippers instead of the Lakers and never won a title there surrounding by medicore-to-above average at best supporting casts?


I also swear artest, horry, fisher saved kobricjs butt numerous times, who remembers kobricks 6-24 in an important game seven in 2010 finals,

Great players need to be surrounded by at least one other great player. It's not Lebron's fault that he didn't luck into a situation as good as Magic or Kobe or Bird. plus your superstar bosh only scored 0 in game seven, yep superstar all right.


wade averaged 16 and bosh 12 points in playoffs last seson, not superstar numbers. Leberon ha ssecond most triple doubles in finals history, if thats so easy how come noone did it besides magic. He scored 28 outta 29 points vs detroit game 5 or 6 in 2007, thats how bad his supporting cast is and detroit was a brutal defensive team with rasheed wallace and tayshun prince guarding him. Even if you say detroit is a bad teram, how come noone did it ever. Durant choked against th0e grizzles who played without gay, while lebron with nobodies lead cavs to 2012, 2013. Westbrok is better than anyone Lebron had on cavs


You cant blame refs as sperms shot mord freethrows and heat had the record for least free throw attempts in finals.

Sperms were getting every call posible with bogus freetghrows during 4 quarters or who remembers duncan fouling out and inbounded or Kawai Leonard kicked mike miller in jaw and was no call.

[Zyzz]

May I remind you that Lebron has most points in elimination games, game 7s than any nba player, and that caviliers won only 19 games when lebron james left, they went from 66,61 games to 19 games. biggest dropoff when a certain player leaves a team. Witthout lebrons 18 points in the fourth quarter that three would not matter. Plus there was still overtime and sgane seven and sperms just choked, and ray allen played like crap.37 points and 15 rebounds in game seven, when has durant have a line liike that. Also cavs have the worst loosing streak when lebron left
Would you think as highly of Magic Johnson if he got stuck on the Clippers instead of the Lakers and never won a title there surrounding by medicore-to-above average at best supporting casts?


I also swear artest, horry, fisher saved kobricjs butt numerous times, who remembers kobricks 6-24 in an important game seven in 2010 finals,

Great players need to be surrounded by at least one other great player. It's not Lebron's fault that he didn't luck into a situation as good as Magic or Kobe or Bird. plus your superstar bosh only scored 0 in game seven, yep superstar all right.


wade averaged 16 and bosh 12 points in playoffs last seson, not superstar numbers. Leberon ha ssecond most triple doubles in finals history, if thats so easy how come noone did it besides magic. He scored 28 outta 29 points vs detroit game 5 or 6 in 2007, thats how bad his supporting cast is. Durant choked against the grizzles who played without gay, while lebron with nobodies lead cavs to 2012, 2013. Westbrok is better than anyone Lebron had on cavs

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/21581110.jpg

[dabigbaws]

Yes, easily

[Frozen1]

People forget lebron did this for 7 consecutive years in cleveland.

Lebron at 19 years old, in his second year, put 27-7-7, numers as good as what durant is putting this season. And he was 19.

This is just overreaction because in 2010 two of the players that could have been putting numbers like these teamed up, and only kobe was left, but we know kobe is old.

And yet Kobe at 35 last year was dominating, having to score 40 in order for his team to win.

So people forget both lebron and wade used to put crazy numbers, and now act like what durant is doing is something extraterrestrial.

And for much of his 30-40 point games, durant is having 10-12 FG made, what indicates that this high scoring and 50% FG has a little help from the refs.

[pauk]

35 year old Jordan led the league in scoring in 98, and carried the Bulls to 62 wins despite Pippen (38), Kukoc (8) and Kerr (32) missing 78 games between them.

Durant is leading the league in scoring this year, and he's carried OKC to the best record in the stacked WC despite Westbrook missing 40% of the Thunders' games.

This begs the question: Is Durant having the best season of any perimeter player since 98 Jordan, in terms of doing so much with so little help around him?

I seriously doubt your basketball knowledge is that weak or that you have not started watching basketball until 2014....

Shaq
Duncan
KG
T-Mac
Kobe
Wade
Lebron

Since 98 all of them have done more in terms of stats or in terms of doing so much with so little help around....

Stop trolling...

[dabigbaws]

People forget lebron did this for 7 consecutive years in cleveland.

Lebron at 19 years old, in his second year, put 27-7-7, numers as good as what durant is putting this season. And he was 19.

This is just overreaction because in 2010 two of the players that could have been putting numbers like these teamed up, and only kobe was left, but we know kobe is old.

And yet Kobe at 35 last year was dominating, having to score 40 in order for his team to win.

So people forget both lebron and wade used to put crazy numbers, and now act like what durant is doing is something extraterrestrial.

And for much of his 30-40 point games, durant is having 10-12 FG made, what indicates that this high scoring and 50% FG has a little help from the refs.

why is lebron averaging worse numbers than his 2nd year in the league?

[Frozen1]

why is lebron averaging worse numbers than his 2nd year in the league?

Ask him on twitter why.

[tmacattack33]

It might be top 10. I'd have to think about it. Lebron has probably 4 seasons better, Wade and Kobe have a few. And Peak T-mac might have one or two better.

[Papaya Petee]

Wade played with a rookie Mario Chalmers, rookie Michael Beasley, Yakhuba Diawara, 50 year old Jermaine O'Neal, James Jones, and Udonis Haslem

Kobe played with Chris Mihm, Kwame Brown, Smush Parker and Lamar Odom


Are you really f****** trying to argue that Durants cast is ANYWHERE near as bad?

[HurricaneKid]

Out of curiosity, if LeBron had 11 turnovers and his teammate scored 11 straight 4th qtr points, how many of you would anoint him the best player in the last 15+ years immediately after the game? I love Durant. I have a keeper fantasy league and he is my cornerstone. But this is going overboard.

BTW, LeBron has NEVER had 11 turnovers in ANY game.

[DaSeba5]

The OP must be 12 years old.

[IncarceratedBob]

No. Guys average 30 ppg on 50/40/90 every year.

[Frozen1]

No. Guys average 30 ppg on 50/40/90 every year.

This 50/40/90 thing is a f.ucking bullshit.