How is Lebron getting his 60% field goal? [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

Mr Feeny

01-13-2014, 07:12 AM

scott0326

01-13-2014, 07:12 AM

So because Lebron is fantastic at getting to the hoop and finishing in the paint, this is a bad thing and he should be taking and making shots from further away just to please some of you morons? K

russwest0

01-13-2014, 07:13 AM

:lol :lol :lol

Yeah, safe to say he's not gonna age well at all.

2swift4u

01-13-2014, 07:13 AM

interesting that he shoots that much better from the left side of the court.

MellowYellow

01-13-2014, 07:17 AM

I don't understand why it matters where a player gets his points from. This is an argument I used to have a decade ago when it comes to Shaq. It doesn't matter that Shaq can't make a basket outside of 10 feet. Point is you cant stop him from scoring inside of 10 feet, so why would he go outside?

Ultimately, the goal is to put in the ball in the hoop using the least amount of shots as possible. Why would I take a long two when I can get a better shot, that has a higher chance of going in?

It doesn't really matter, what matters is that he gets praised so much for his fg% because he is a wing player shooting 60% but really he isn't that much of a wing player and the main reason for his insane fg% is at the rim.

maybeshewill13

01-13-2014, 07:17 AM

I don't understand why it matters where a player gets his points from. This is an argument I used to have a decade ago when it comes to Shaq. It doesn't matter that Shaq can't make a basket outside of 10 feet. Point is you cant stop him from scoring inside of 10 feet, so why would he go outside?

Ultimately, the goal is to put in the ball in the hoop using the least amount of shots as possible. Why would I take a long two when I can get a better shot, that has a higher chance of going in?

But it matters that Durant gets some points from the three-throw line apparently? Even though Leflop averaged 12 FTA in the 2012 playoff series where the Heat were gifted a championship.

1pixelarmy

01-13-2014, 07:18 AM

Could be interesting to know if right-handed players use to have better percentages shooting from left side of the court.

aj1987

01-13-2014, 07:18 AM

I don't understand why it matters where a player gets his points from. This is an argument I used to have a decade ago when it comes to Shaq. It doesn't matter that Shaq can't make a basket outside of 10 feet. Point is you cant stop him from scoring inside of 10 feet, so why would he go outside?

Ultimately, the goal is to put in the ball in the hoop using the least amount of shots as possible. Why would I take a long two when I can get a better shot, that has a higher chance of going in?
But but Kobe takes shots over 3-4 defenders and makes them 40% of the time and it looks super cool.

/sarcasm

russwest0

01-13-2014, 07:19 AM

Most FTA ever in a playoff run.

1. Shaq (when teams were doing Hack-A-Shaq)
2. LeBron in 2012 (first championship rigging)
3. Wade in 2006 (first championship rigging)

Scal

01-13-2014, 07:20 AM

Could be interesting to know if right-handed players use to have better percentages shooting from left side of the court.

Speaking from personal experience, I know I prefer shooting from the left side of the court as a right-handed shooter. Don't know percentage-wise but just going off my gut feeling I'd say I'm more successful.

maybeshewill13

01-13-2014, 07:20 AM

Most FTA ever in a playoff run.

1. Shaq (when teams were doing Hack-A-Shaq)
2. LeBron in 2012 (first championship rigging)
3. Wade in 2006 (first championship rigging)

Heat the all-team free-throw champions :bowdown:

aj1987

01-13-2014, 07:21 AM

But it matters that Durant gets some points from the three-throw line apparently? Even though Leflop averaged 12 FTA in the 2012 playoff series where the Heat were gifted a championship.
The same way the Thunder were carried by the refs to the Finals?

BTW, Lebron averaged 10 in the playoffs and 9 in the Finals.

russwest0

01-13-2014, 07:21 AM

But but Kobe takes shots over 3-4 defenders and makes them 40% of the time and it looks super cool.

K dude, just don't complain when 34 year old LeBron isn't able to average 27/6/5 like Kobe did last year. Shit, LeBron can't even average that at age 29 :lol

Mr Feeny

01-13-2014, 07:22 AM

It doesn't really matter, what matters is that he gets praised so much for his fg% because he is a wing player shooting 60% but really he isn't that much of a wing player and the main reason for his insane fg% is at the rim.

Now THAT's a good point. First sensible bit of input in this thread. Interested to hear responses adressing this.

aj1987

01-13-2014, 07:23 AM

K dude, just don't complain when 34 year old LeBron isn't able to average 27/6/5 like Kobe did last year. Shit, LeBron can't even average that at age 29 :lol
I don't give a shit as long as the Heat keep winning. You seem to care more about Lebron's stats than me, btw.

rip2

01-13-2014, 07:24 AM

Exact thing I've been saying all along, glad there is a pic proof of it now. Lebron has high FG and efficiency only because he gets his points off layups and fast breaks. When he falls off, which is very soon, it's going to get ugly. fast.

russwest0

01-13-2014, 07:25 AM

I don't give a shit as long as the Heat keep winning. You seem to care more about Lebron's stats than me, btw.

With LBJ aging more like Pippen than MJ/Kobe and the Heat looking like no Wade = no win....

I've got some bad news for ya :oldlol:

JebronLames

01-13-2014, 07:26 AM

It doesn't really matter, what matters is that he gets praised so much for his fg% because he is a wing player shooting 60% but really he isn't that much of a wing player and the main reason for his insane fg% is at the rim.
You make it seem like it's luck that's getting him to the rim.

MellowYellow

01-13-2014, 07:29 AM

You make it seem like it's luck that's getting him to the rim.

It's not luck, Lebron is amazing at the rim and amazing at getting to the rim. He's just not an amazing scorer from anywhere else.

annbafan

01-13-2014, 07:30 AM

I don't know what is wrong with shooting near the rim rather than taking jumpers far away from the basket. I've heard basketball coaches say that lay-ups are the best field goals in basketball and i cannot not agree with that.
Lay-ups may not look as spectacular as fade away shots or other shots from distance, but they are lots of times as effecient. There are a large number of players in the league that can shoot well from distance (and most of them aren't really good on the whole), but very very few if any (from non-bigs) that are able to score close to the rim as Lebron does...

JebronLames

01-13-2014, 07:32 AM

With LBJ aging more like Pippen than MJ/Kobe and the Heat looking like no Wade = no win....

I've got some bad news for ya :oldlol:

Hope westbrook is healthy in the playoffs. Rooting for thunder to make the finals again.

TheMilkyBarKid

01-13-2014, 07:33 AM

K dude, just don't complain when 34 year old LeBron isn't able to average 27/6/5 like Kobe did last year. Shit, LeBron can't even average that at age 29 :lol
Does lebron haunt your dreams? You walk in on ya Misses strumming herself to a picture of lebron? Did he shit in your cereal?
Let it go man.
Anyway if lebron is nothing special then ill be quick to remind you how much better he was in his earlier years than kobe was.

Mr Feeny

01-13-2014, 07:34 AM

I don't give a shit as long as the Heat keep winning. You seem to care more about Lebron's stats than me, btw.

Do you see the Heat winning 3-4 years down the road with this same core (James, Wade, and Bosh) + minimum contracts? What should Miami do about the big man situation this offseason?

aj1987

01-13-2014, 07:36 AM

With LBJ aging more like Pippen than MJ/Kobe and the Heat looking like no Wade = no win....

I've got some bad news for ya :oldlol:
What bad news? The dude's averaging 26/7/7 on 67% TS and you're acting like he's some scrub. He averaged 27/8/7 64% last year, btw. Pretty similar numbers and his PPG has been going up the past of games.

russwest0

01-13-2014, 07:38 AM

the OP just proves all you have to do to beat Bron is defend him like Mavs/Spurs. He's still afraid to do anything other than score right under the rim

SexSymbol

01-13-2014, 07:39 AM

There's nothing bad in playing the post.
But don't use the FG% as a quality to compare players if they have completely different games, teams need shooters and teams need post players, LeBron's a past player, Durant, for that matter, is a shooter, anybody comparing their FG% is crazy.

pauk

01-13-2014, 07:39 AM

Yea its as simple as that... i mean everyone is able to create those efficient shots at that volume... they just choose not to...

and according to TS% shooting 90% FT erases your inability to make actual shots anyways.... so who cares about field goals...

bingo123

01-13-2014, 07:40 AM

You do realize, that Lebron shots at higher % than Durant outside of 8 feet (according to nba.com). Outside of 8 feet Lebron is 111/265 or 41,8% and Durant is 189/463 or 40,8% for the season.

russwest0

01-13-2014, 07:44 AM

You do realize, that Lebron shots at higher % than Durant outside of 8 feet (according to nba.com). Outside of 8 feet Lebron is 111/265 or 41,8% and Durant is 189/463 or 40,8% for the season.

Wait a minute? So LeBron only takes an average of 5 shots outside of 8 feet per game?

LMFAO!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:

He is gonna age so badly

russwest0

01-13-2014, 07:44 AM

JebronLames

01-13-2014, 07:46 AM

Wait a minute? So LeBron only takes an average of 5 shots outside of 8 feet per game?

LMFAO!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:

He is gonna age so badly

265/36 lol

russwest0

01-13-2014, 07:48 AM

My bad guise, SEVEN shots... :lol :lol :lol

A whopping seven shots. Man I bet that is complete shit compared to 29 year old Jordan or Kobe

annbafan

01-13-2014, 07:50 AM

I don't know what is wrong with shooting near the rim rather than taking jumpers far away from the basket. I've heard basketball coaches say that lay-ups are the best field goals in basketball and i cannot not agree with that.
Lay-ups may not look as spectacular as fade away shots and other shots from distance, but they are lots of times as effecient. There are a large number of players in the league that can shoot well from distance (and most of them aren't really good on the whole), but very very few if any (from non-bigs) that are able to score close to the rim as Lebron does...

I.R.Beast

01-13-2014, 07:51 AM

Could be interesting to know if right-handed players use to have better percentages shooting from left side of the court.
i was about to make this point...i also shoot much better from the left side of the court than i do from the right. on step backs and fade aways especially.

pauk

01-13-2014, 07:59 AM

My bad guise, SEVEN shots... :lol :lol :lol

A whopping seven shots. Man I bet that is complete shit compared to 29 year old Jordan or Kobe

Thats because he averages only 16 FGA.......... 287 shots outside the painted, midrange, 3pt line & 283 inside...

...only Lebron has ever shot ~60% FG with 26 ppg in NBA history.... the only guys who were close were Centers doing nothing but shooting inside shots....

Trying to discredit Lebron for shooting this efficiently at that volume as a perimeter player is just downright absurd....

Rose'sACL

01-13-2014, 08:00 AM

who else thinks that maybeshewill and ruswest0 are same person?

russwest0

01-13-2014, 08:04 AM

who else thinks that maybeshewill and ruswest0 are same person?

but I thought I was ripthekik, 9rem, or fresh kid

Lebron23

01-13-2014, 08:06 AM

He's playing smart efficient basketball. current heat also have a better record at this stage of this season.

Last year they were 25-12. This year they are 27-10.

Rose'sACL

01-13-2014, 08:07 AM

but I thought I was ripthekik, 9rem, or fresh kid
may be you are those too. be proud of your lebron hating alts. don't hide them . that makes it seem like you are embarrassed of them.

Combat Wombat

01-13-2014, 08:10 AM

may be you are those too. be proud of your lebron hating alts. don't hide them . that makes it seem like you are embarrassed of them.

Yeah because you don't have any alts at all :rolleyes:

Lebron23

01-13-2014, 08:11 AM

but I thought I was ripthekik, 9rem, or fresh kid

You guys needs to stop hating on the GOAT Small forward.

Rose'sACL

01-13-2014, 08:11 AM

Yeah because you don't have any alts at all :rolleyes:
wow, another alt of russwest0

russwest0

01-13-2014, 08:12 AM

wow, another alt of russwest0

:lol :lol :lol

Blue&Orange

01-13-2014, 08:14 AM

http://i.imgur.com/AsZfQiZ.jpg

Dude has shot more from below the rim than anywhere else on the floor combined.. yet is barely ahead of Durant in TS :roll:
said it so many time last year. Only perimeter player that shot less from the perimeter than Lebron last year... Landry Fields.

This "historical fg% for a wing player" is a joke.

Combat Wombat

01-13-2014, 08:15 AM

:lol :lol :lol

Lebron stans insecurity is being exposed big time. :roll:

Knicks014Champs

01-13-2014, 08:15 AM

Yeah ok, we already knew that Bron is a good dunker, but man Melo is better, he just doesn't dunk as much, Melo don't need those fake fg% boosts yo.

yeaaaman

01-13-2014, 08:15 AM

He's playing smart efficient basketball. current heat also have a better record at this stage of this season.

Last year they were 25-12. This year they are 27-10.

I don't know if I think they'll finish with a better record yet. I can't see them going on another 29 game winning streak or whatever it was.

bingo123

01-13-2014, 08:17 AM

My bad guise, SEVEN shots... :lol :lol :lol

A whopping seven shots. Man I bet that is complete shit compared to 29 year old Jordan or Kobe

I can only guess what you are trying to prove but you are probably trying to say that Lebron only takes shots at the rim. If that is the point let me tell you that Lebron is taking 2,3 more shots at the rim per game than Durant.

Lebron23

01-13-2014, 08:18 AM

I don't know if I think they'll finish with a better record yet. I can't see them going on another 29 game winning streak or whatever it was.

They need to have a better record than the pacers at the end of this season. that 29 games winning streak hurt Wade cause he was playing major minutes against scrubs teams.

russwest0

01-13-2014, 08:19 AM

said it so many time last year. Only perimeter player that shot less from the perimeter than Lebron last year... Landry Fields.

This "historical fg% for a wing player" is a joke.

Wait a minute, is this true? :oldlol:

Lebron23

01-13-2014, 08:19 AM

said it so many time last year. Only perimeter player that shot less from the perimeter than Lebron last year... Landry Fields.

This "historical fg% for a wing player" is a joke.

Did you just compared Carl Landry to LBJ? when was the last time landry averaged 26 ppg on 59.1 FG%.

Rose'sACL

01-13-2014, 08:21 AM

said it so many time last year. Only perimeter player that shot less from the perimeter than Lebron last year... Landry Fields.

This "historical fg% for a wing player" is a joke.
wow. such great stats and such great link for source.
prove it.

russwest0

01-13-2014, 08:24 AM

:eek: :eek: :eek: Blue&Orange is right

http://www.82games.com/1314/13MIA8.HTM

http://www.82games.com/1314/13TOR9.HTM

Rose'sACL

01-13-2014, 08:27 AM

:eek: :eek: :eek: Blue&Orange is right

http://www.82games.com/1314/13MIA8.HTM

http://www.82games.com/1314/13TOR9.HTM
how does that prove him right? are you mentally handicapped? he used the world "only" and didn't say that he is just one of the players who takes lesser shots than lebron from perimeter.

russwest0

01-13-2014, 08:28 AM

how does that prove him right? are you mentally handicapped?

stop, you're embarrassing yourself

Rose'sACL

01-13-2014, 08:30 AM

stop, you're embarrassing yourself
read what he wrote and then read the links you just posted and try to tell me that your links prove him write.
you didn't prove that he is the only player who shot less than lbj from perimeter.

russwest0

01-13-2014, 08:32 AM

read what he wrote and then read the links you just posted and try to tell me that your links prove him write.
you didn't prove that he is the only player who shot less than lbj from perimeter.

And you didn't prove that he wasn't. I proved part of his evidence

Rose'sACL

01-13-2014, 08:35 AM

And you didn't prove that he wasn't. I proved part of his evidence
actually it is on him to prove that as he made that statement. i can make any statement about lebron being better than all the players at something and it would be on me to provide a link to prove it.

russwest0

01-13-2014, 08:36 AM

actually it is on him to prove that as he made that statement. i can make any statement about lebron being better than all the players at something and it would be on me to provide a link to prove it.

:cheers:

Rose'sACL

01-13-2014, 08:36 AM

go ahead give me a chart of all the wing players and their shot attempts and shots made for last season. you have to prove it as you made that statement.

Dave3

01-13-2014, 08:38 AM

And you didn't prove that he wasn't. I proved part of his evidence
Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm curious how old you are.

russwest0

01-13-2014, 08:43 AM

Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm curious how old you are.

Jammerthafeer alt

AintNoSunshine

01-13-2014, 08:44 AM

LOL haters in here, you are not arguing against Lebron fans, you are arguing with yourself against facts, and reality:oldlol:

Contrary to what you believe, Lebron has been and still is the most dominant player in the league, he's at the peak of his reign as of now and you will be miserable betting against him

JebronLames

01-13-2014, 08:45 AM

said it so many time last year. Only perimeter player that shot less from the perimeter than Lebron last year... Landry Fields.

This "historical fg% for a wing player" is a joke.
Haha lebron shot 46% from 16-23 ft last year. 2nd best in the league behind Kyle korver.

plowking

01-13-2014, 09:11 AM

:roll: dudes shooting 30% from the midrange

PATHETIC

Da fuq?

Hes shooting 42% from midrange this year. Where are you getting a BS figure of 30% from?

STATUTORY

01-13-2014, 09:16 AM

Da fuq?

Hes shooting 42% from midrange this year. Where are you getting a BS figure of 30% from?
midrange from the right side of the basket, around 30%

:roll: :roll: dude is still a liability in the playoffs when refs hold their whistle and teams pack the paint

never seen a superstar being dared to shoot by opposing defenders before.

this infograph just shows that the eye test still rules supreme. Real basketball aficionados could tell by watching the game that Bron is still a shit shooter that cheeses the layup and dunks

plowking

01-13-2014, 09:21 AM

midrange from the right side of the basket, around 30%

:roll: :roll: dude is still a liability in the playoffs when refs hold their whistle and teams pack the paint

never seen a superstar being dared to shoot by opposing defenders before.

this infograph just shows that the eye test still rules supreme. Real basketball aficionados could tell by watching the game that Bron is still a shit shooter that cheeses the layup and dunks

Okay.

A shit shooter that shoots 40+% from the three point line.

aj1987

01-13-2014, 09:21 AM

My bad guise, SEVEN shots... :lol :lol :lol

A whopping seven shots. Man I bet that is complete shit compared to 29 year old Jordan or Kobe
You do know that that's around half the shots he takes, right?

Blue&Orange

01-13-2014, 09:24 AM

how does that prove him right? are you mentally handicapped? he used the world "only" and didn't say that he is just one of the players who takes lesser shots than lebron from perimeter.
pretty sure you have spent the last hours searching for a perimeter player that shot less less from the perimeter and found nothing :lol

I know i didn't :lol

ImKobe

01-13-2014, 09:25 AM

Okay.

A shit shooter that shoots 40+% from the three point line.

People mistake good shot selection for nit-picking spots and protecting FG%. Lebron's high fg% comes from taking good shots and making them. Some Lebron haters are ridiculous. :coleman:

If it works in the regular season, why not do it? Obviously the top defenses he faces in the Playoffs will make him shoot more contested jumpers and he won't get the looks he gets in the regular season as often, but he's come through with his jumper at the most crucial points of the playoffs for past 2 years (Game 6 vs Boston, Game 6 & 7 vs San Antonio).

I<3NBA

01-13-2014, 09:37 AM

STATUTORY

01-13-2014, 09:49 AM

OP says it like it's a bad thing. i mean obviously, players should shoot further away from the basket even if they're horrible at it. coolness > efficiency

retards.

i guess OP is a fan of Josh Smith.

and there is a difference between efficiency and ABILITY. Lebron doesn't have the ability to consitenlty knock down the midrange jumper

gonna hurt his longevity and has hurt his ability to win in the playoffs. Hence why he's ultimate frontrunner because he relies on others to be the catalyst for team victories by hitting the clutch jumper. He cant do it himself, he feeds off his teammates energy, they don't feed off him.

Rose'sACL

01-13-2014, 09:49 AM

pretty sure you have spent the last hours searching for a perimeter player that shot less less from the perimeter and found nothing :lol

I know i didn't :lol
so you agree that posted a stat without any link to prove it and then call other idiots for not wasting time trying to prove you wrong.your posting history for just today will not make anyone waste time searching the internet to prove you wrong.

Rose'sACL

01-13-2014, 10:26 AM

and there is a difference between efficiency and ABILITY. Lebron doesn't have the ability to consitenlty knock down the midrange jumper

gonna hurt his longevity and has hurt his ability to win in the playoffs. Hence why he's ultimate frontrunner because he relies on others to be the catalyst for team victories by hitting the clutch jumper. He cant do it himself, he feeds off his teammates energy, they don't feed off him.
must be a great player then to have better career ppg than kobe.

Bandito

01-13-2014, 10:29 AM

Okay.

A shit shooter that shoots 40+% from the three point line.
Where did that 40% three point shooting went in the 2013 Finals?:biggums:

Lebron23

01-13-2014, 10:29 AM

must be a great player then to have better career ppg than kobe.

This

Frozen1

01-13-2014, 10:31 AM

F.uck you OP with your TS% bullshit.

Lebron23

01-13-2014, 10:31 AM

Where did that 40% three point shooting went in the 2013 Finals?:biggums:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6szZ4hbumT0 One of the biggest games of his entire NBA career.

Bandito

01-13-2014, 10:32 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6szZ4hbumT0 One of the biggest games of his entire NBA career.
Still where did his 40% three point shot go? You haven't answered my question bro...

Marlo_Stanfield

01-13-2014, 10:32 AM

LeBron James is the best player ever and this shot selection proves it once more. he also had a few games this season where his midrange was on money especially in the clutch. mind that he gets fouled on EVERY drive and unlike Durant barely gets FT while playing way more physical than him.
GOAT gonna GOAT, haters gonna hate:coleman:

Marlo_Stanfield

01-13-2014, 10:34 AM

Still where did his 40% three point shot go? You haven't answered my question bro...
are u legit retarded??? every player has struggled from a certain spot for even more than just one series.
Lebron being able to burry the spurs with so many midrange shots and threes in game 7 was insane given the fact he struggled shooting most of that series... kobetards...

tmacattack33

01-13-2014, 10:40 AM

http://i.imgur.com/AsZfQiZ.jpg

Dude has shot more from below the rim than anywhere else on the floor combined.. yet is barely ahead of Durant in TS :roll:

I thought this thread was just an informational thread, and was actually impressed that Lebron is able to get so many close shots.

And then I read the bolded and realized that this thread was made by a 10 year old, as only a 10 year old would bash a player for being able to get to the rim with ease.

Bandito

01-13-2014, 10:40 AM

are u legit retarded??? every player has struggled from a certain spot for even more than just one series.
Lebron being able to burry the spurs with so many midrange shots and threes in game 7 was insane given the fact he struggled shooting most of that series... kobetards...
For 6 games though?:confusedshrug:

He struggled for 6 games or did the Spurs played great defense on him and he just couldn't score at will and got lucky in game 7?:confusedshrug:

Think about that...

Bandito

01-13-2014, 10:42 AM

I thought this thread was just an informational thread, and was actually impressed that Lebron is able to get so many close shots.

And then I read the bolded and realized that this thread was made by a 10 year old, as only a 10 year old would bash a player for being able to get to the rim with ease.
He was trying to make a point that Durant has a better TS% than Lebron even though he shoots better from the outside. Of course you have to deduce that from his post as he is obviously trying to diminish Lebron as a player.

Durant is just a beast:facepalm

ArbitraryWater

01-13-2014, 10:42 AM

Basically all he does is cherrypick dunks&layups. On any other team that wouldn't have the playmaking/passing skills of a chalmers or norris cole, he would barely clip 50%..

:rolleyes:

Marlo_Stanfield

01-13-2014, 10:45 AM

For 6 games though?:confusedshrug:

He struggled for 6 games or did the Spurs played great defense on him and he just couldn't score at will and got lucky in game 7?:confusedshrug:

Think about that...
nikka he didnt struggle every single game but he struggled with his shooting most of the series this is true. since hes a good shooter but doesnt live and die by his shooting like Kobe this can very well happen and 6 games isnt that long. he was also clearly tired at the end. he carried the heat to that 27 game win streak and then single handledly carried them to the title. legs getting a bit tired is only understandable. now he shot great vs Indy thats why it was a bit strange but he completely redeemed himself in that game 7 epic performance and lets not forget he hit a crucial CLUTCH three to partly save his own legacy before allen could hit the miracle three( where lebron btw demanded the ball)

Marlo_Stanfield

01-13-2014, 10:47 AM

Basically all he does is cherrypick dunks&layups. On any other team that wouldn't have the playmaking/passing skills of a chalmers or norris cole, he would barely clip 50%..

:rolleyes:
:lol :lol :lol
LeBron is only good with GOAT level PGs, cant create for himself. hes Amare 2.0

Bandito

01-13-2014, 10:50 AM

since hes a good shooter but doesnt live and die by his shooting like Kobe this can very well happen and 6 games isnt that long.That is his problem, if his team wasn't stacked he would've lost. He has a big weakness in outside shooting, and it was shown by the Spurs in 2013 Finals. Lebron is still a beast and did great finding his teammates for open jumpers, Ray, Chalmers, Bosh and Wade saved their collective a$$es in game 4. That 2013 Heat team is something special all right. But let's not pretend they won solely because Lebron.

Also he struggled in 5 games and three quarters, let's not pretend otherwise.:facepalm:

Marlo_Stanfield

01-13-2014, 10:58 AM

That is his problem, if his team wasn't stacked he would've lost. He has a big weakness in outside shooting, and it was shown by the Spurs in 2013 Finals. Lebron is still a beast and did great finding his teammates for open jumpers, Ray, Chalmers, Bosh and Wade saved their collective a$$es in game 4. That 2013 Heat team is something special all right. But let's not pretend they won solely because Lebron.

Also he struggled in 5 games and three quarters, let's not pretend otherwise.:facepalm:
are u retarded??? every Championship team has players capable of saving one game. those kobetards... Kobes game 7 was also saved by his teammates and the referees.
the fact remains that his teammates sucked ASS the ENTIRE playoffs. shooters where freakin incosistent and ray freakin Allen shot like ron artest from three till the finals. Wade was a joke the entire playoffs and then suddenly started to play okay in the finals. Bosh was getting owned on offense and defense the entire last two rounds outsideof one half against duncan.
the Heat have good players but major flaws because they dont have a real big man and Wade was injured and their roleplayers were inconsistent and old.
that 2013 team had NO business winning a NBa Championship if it wasnt for LeBron.:facepalm

Indian guy

01-13-2014, 10:58 AM

Where did that 40% three point shooting went in the 2013 Finals?:biggums:

He shot 36% in the Finals. Not exactly a big drop-off. He also did it on higher volume.

Marlo_Stanfield

01-13-2014, 10:59 AM

He shot 36% in the Finals. Not exactly a big drop-off. He also did it on higher volume.
hes going full kobetard right now:facepalm

Bandito

01-13-2014, 11:02 AM

are u retarded??? every Championship team has players capable of saving one game. those kobetards... Kobes game 7 was also saved by his teammates and the referees.
the fact remains that his teammates sucked ASS the ENTIRE playoffs. shooters where freakin incosistent and ray freakin Allen shot like ron artest from three till the finals. Wade was a joke the entire playoffs and then suddenly started to play okay in the finals. Bosh was getting owned on offense and defense the entire last two rounds outsideof one half against duncan.
the Heat have good players but major flaws because they dont have a real big man and Wade was injured and their roleplayers were inconsistent and old.
that 2013 team had NO business winning a NBa Championship if it wasnt for LeBron.:facepalm
Listen bro, calm down:yaohappy:

Why are you bringing Kobe in this thread when we are talking about Lebron:facepalm

The reason I am not answering/replying to this post is because you seem mentally unstable and I don't want to be stalked in the future. peace...

Bandito

01-13-2014, 11:03 AM

He shot 36% in the Finals. Not exactly a big drop-off. He also did it on higher volume.
Yeah I can see that. I was mostly answering plowking answer though...

Boarder Patrol

01-13-2014, 11:03 AM

Didn't know his midrange game was still so crappy.

I thought it was improving every year, right?

:biggums:

Lebron23

01-13-2014, 11:04 AM

He actually shot 36 % from the 3 points line in the 2013 NBA Finals. Here's Kobe 3 pt FG% against the 2009 Magic and 2010 Celtics.

31.9 3FG% vs. 2010 Boston Celtics
36.0 3FG% vs. 2009 Orlando Magic.

Bandito

01-13-2014, 11:05 AM

Didn't know his midrange game was still so crappy.

I thought it was improving every year, right?

:biggums:
His main strength is slashing and he does it well. He can't shoot better from midrange probably because he is too big and it is harder to do be a good shot with his muscle volume in his body.

Marlo_Stanfield

01-13-2014, 11:05 AM

Listen bro, calm down:yaohappy:

Why are you bringing Kobe in this thread when we are talking about Lebron:facepalm

The reason I am not answering/replying to this post is because you seem mentally unstable and I don't want to be stalked in the future. peace...
cuz u are a giant kobe stan and talk about Lebron being saved by teammates in game four( where he had 32 points :lol ). Kobe got saved in game 7 by refs and teammates while LeBron had the arguable best game 7 of all time:oldlol:

Indian guy

01-13-2014, 11:06 AM

That is his problem, if his team wasn't stacked he would've lost.

The ****? The absolute last thing Miami was in the 2013 playoffs is "stacked". 2013 LeBron could only dream about the sort of help Kobe had in the playoffs in his only 2 championship runs.

Ray, Chalmers, Bosh and Wade saved their collective a$$es in game 4.

He got his ass saved in a game where he led everybody in scoring?

I also :oldlol: @ the sheer hatred salty Kobe kids have long had for any time LeBron receives help. It instantly becomes a game where he got his ass saved. These poor souls had become so accustomed to his teammates doing absolutely nothing in Cleveland, that they just don't know what to do when LeBron actually plays with talent.

I really pity Kobe fans. I really do. Never has a fanbase tried as hard to diminish an athlete as Kobe fans did/do to LeBron. Their very online life revolved 24/7 around belittling LeBron as a threat to their GOD, but it's all gone for naught. LeBron today is universally recognized as better than Kobe ever was. Nobody even compares the 2 anymore. Where do Kobe fans go from here? I don't know. I really don't know. It has to be depressing as hell though. Nearly a decade long of trolling went down the toilet.

Bandito

01-13-2014, 11:06 AM

He actually shot 35.3 % from the 3 points line in the 2013 NBA Finals. Here's Kobe 3 pt FG% against the 2009 Magic and 2010 Celtics.

31.9 3FG% vs. 2010 Boston Celtics
36 3FG% s. 2009 Orlando Magic.
2010 Boston Celtics matchups are always low on %FG because of the defense played there. Unless you were incredibly athletic you're screwed pretty much, and Kobe at that time wasn't.

ArbitraryWater

01-13-2014, 11:07 AM

2010 Boston Celtics matchups are always low on %FG because of the defense played there. Unless you were incredibly athletic you're screwed pretty much, and Kobe at that time wasn't.

I don't expect this BS excuse making from you. Let that to russwest and the other clowns

Marlo_Stanfield

01-13-2014, 11:08 AM

2010 Boston Celtics matchups are always low on %FG because of the defense played there. Unless you were incredibly athletic you're screwed pretty much, and Kobe at that time wasn't.
but he suddenly was again in 2013. dem PEDs finally doing work eh:coleman:

Bandito

01-13-2014, 11:09 AM

The ****? The absolute last thing Miami was in the 2013 playoffs is "stacked". 2013 LeBron could only dream about the sort of help Kobe had in the playoffs in his only 2 championship runs.

[quote]Ray, Chalmers, Bosh and Wade saved their collective a$$es in game 4.[quote]

He got his ass saved in a game where he led everybody in scoring?

I also :oldlol: @ the sheer hatred salty Kobe kids have long had for any time LeBron receives help. It instantly becomes a game where he got his ass saved. These poor souls had become so accustomed to his teammates doing absolutely nothing in Cleveland, that they just don't know what to do when LeBron actually plays with talent.
Here we go again. Are trying to tell me 3 all stars in one team is not stacked:facepalm

Bosh and Wade were superstars before Lebron came into town.

Bosh is playing out of position while Wade has been hobbled with injuries these past 2 years. OMG the fallacy that Lebron had to do everything on this team is ridiculous.

Marlo_Stanfield

01-13-2014, 11:12 AM

[QUOTE=Indian guy]The ****? The absolute last thing Miami was in the 2013 playoffs is "stacked". 2013 LeBron could only dream about the sort of help Kobe had in the playoffs in his only 2 championship runs.

[quote]Ray, Chalmers, Bosh and Wade saved their collective a$$es in game 4.
Here we go again. Are trying to tell me 3 all stars in one team is not stacked:facepalm

Bosh and Wade were superstars before Lebron came into town.

Bosh is playing out of position while Wade has been hobbled with injuries these past 2 years. OMG the fallacy that Lebron had to do everything on this team is ridiculous.
Wade 2013 playoff stats: 15 PPG on 45 % shooting
Bosh 2013 playoff stats: 12 PPG on 47 % shooting
OMG dat epic help. they would have scored more if LeBron wouldnt have hogged the ball!!
:facepalm

Bandito

01-13-2014, 11:13 AM

I don't expect this BS excuse making from you. Let that to russwest and the other clowns
Dude the defense the Celtics played was great. I am not making excuses, I just said their defense let the stats of everybody that wasn't athletic down. Kobe in 2010 was when his decline was noticeable, and if you didn't see that your blind.

I tend to see a lot of things fans don't see because well that's how I am. The Celtics with Perkins had one of the better defense in the league at the time. Every player that played them had lower stats than normal. Plus Pierce is a beast defensively. They had Kobe's number all year. 2008 is an example. Kobe played the best he could under the circumstances...

Indian guy

01-13-2014, 11:20 AM

LeBron's shooting 42% from mid range this season, which is very good. He has really picked it up from there recently.

http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.html?PlayerID=2544

Bandito

01-13-2014, 11:22 AM

LeBron's shooting 42% from mid range(16-23 feet) this season, which is very good. He has really picked it up from there recently.

http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.html?PlayerID=2544
yes, but defenses tend to get better in the playoffs, why his %FG goes down lil bit. The SPurs strength has always been defense anyways... But to their luck the Heat also have Wade and Bosh, 2 players that can shoot well from Mid range.:applause:

rip2

01-13-2014, 11:22 AM

Isn't this exactly like 2012 where he shot like 30% or smth outside the paint? :lol

SexSymbol

01-13-2014, 11:24 AM

but he suddenly was again in 2013. dem PEDs finally doing work eh:coleman:
He really wasn't that athletic from jumping standpoint.
Even his conditioning hit the wall, he used to look tired as **** during end of those 48 minute games.
Those dunks came off from jis relentlesness attacking the basket, if you look closely, besides the J-smoove dunk, where he clearly was pushed up somewhat by smith's body, he didn't even get that high up of the ground

Marlo_Stanfield

01-13-2014, 11:41 AM

He really wasn't that athletic from jumping standpoint.
Even his conditioning hit the wall, he used to look tired as **** during end of those 48 minute games.
Those dunks came off from jis relentlesness attacking the basket, if you look closely, besides the J-smoove dunk, where he clearly was pushed up somewhat by smith's body, he didn't even get that high up of the ground
ur maybe right but he was still insanely athletic for a 17 season player. he was more athletic in every way than the previous 3 seasons

Crafty

01-13-2014, 11:47 AM

Durant gets to the line 15 times a game: He's takes advantage of the strengths of his own game.

Lebron gets most of his points in the paint: He sucks, 15ppg when his athleticism's gone in like 2 years.

Lebron haters logic.

Illuminati

01-13-2014, 12:04 PM

LeBron is shooting a higher percentage than Durant from beyond the arc. According to these okc scrubs, Durant is the worst shooter in NBA history.

tmacattack33

01-13-2014, 12:58 PM

He was trying to make a point that Durant has a better TS% than Lebron even though he shoots better from the outside. Of course you have to deduce that from his post as he is obviously trying to diminish Lebron as a player.

Durant is just a beast:facepalm

Not sure if serious, but this thread was clearly about Lebron. Durant was just an example cited by the OP to help his argument (however terrible it was) of bashing Lebron.

Marlo_Stanfield

01-13-2014, 01:01 PM

LeBron is shooting a higher percentage than Durant from beyond the arc. According to these okc scrubs, Durant is the worst shooter in NBA history.
hicks gonna hick

Bandito

01-13-2014, 01:09 PM

Not sure if serious, but this thread was clearly about Lebron. Durant was just an example cited by the OP to help his argument (however terrible it was) of bashing Lebron.
Never said it wasn't about Lebron. He's knocking on Lebron by stating Lebron has superior TS% while shooting mostly from afar and not layups.

pegasus

01-13-2014, 01:45 PM

Isn't this exactly like 2012 where he shot like 30% or smth outside the paint? :lol
It was a little under 20% to be exact (talking about the finals).

pegasus

01-13-2014, 01:57 PM

No one is saying that it's wrong of him to take it to the rim instead of shooting mid or long range jumpers, but the media needs to stop hyping his FG% saying it's unheard of for a "perimeter" player.

The truth is he's not playing like a perimeter player. If he's outside the arc, he is passing 90% of the time unless he is completely open. That's not a "perimeter" player. And he is not taking it to the rim like an elite slasher like Wade, Westbrook, Rose, etc. He's getting half of his points from fastbreak opportunities generated by their defense. And he gets easy lay-ups/dunks when Wade is playing, because he can slash and set him up.

Marlo_Stanfield

01-13-2014, 02:00 PM

PJR

01-13-2014, 02:03 PM

FrobeShaw

01-13-2014, 02:03 PM

saltiest hoe on this board by a huge margin
i bet u was one of them fools who said lebron will be a bust when he entered the league:roll: :roll: :roll:

They bumped a thread where he was saying how LeBron wasn't "skilled enough" to win any championships.

GOATbe

01-13-2014, 02:14 PM

exposed yet again :applause:

edrick

01-13-2014, 02:16 PM

K dude, just don't complain when 34 year old LeBron isn't able to average 27/6/5 like Kobe did last year. Shit, LeBron can't even average that at age 29 :lol

Why would anyone want a 34 year old taking the amount of shots required to get those numbers? What's the point of him (or anyone) jacking up a ton of contested shots when he can get great shooters mostly wide open looks? Also, how many teams have won a championship with their primary scorer being 34+ in age? :facepalm

russwest0

01-13-2014, 02:16 PM

LeBron is shooting a higher percentage than Durant from beyond the arc. According to these okc scrubs, Durant is the worst shooter in NBA history.

If Durant was as choosy as LeBron beyond the arc and shot that low of an amount, he'd be shooting 45+%. But since he's actually an elite shooter he does it a lot.

AnaheimLakers24

01-13-2014, 02:58 PM

most boring manufactured star ever

Illuminati

01-13-2014, 03:00 PM

http://www.82games.com/1112/11MIA8.HTM

All the numbers say you're full of shit, and don't know what you're talking about.

LeBron haters in a nutshell. Make up the dumbest shit ever.

Prometheus

01-13-2014, 03:05 PM

you people that discredit a player for being able to get to the rim really should just watch and1 and stop getting into arguments

Illuminati

01-13-2014, 03:05 PM

If Durant was as choosy as LeBron beyond the arc and shot that low of an amount, he'd be shooting 45+%. But since he's actually an elite shooter he does it a lot.

Implying that's a bad thing for LeBron. He only takes 3's if it comes within the offense, if a teammates passes to him with 1-2 seconds left on the shot clock, or if he's wide open. He doesn't need to force any 3's unless it's a heat check.

Illuminati

01-13-2014, 03:07 PM

most boring manufactured star ever

LOL. The most hyped up star coming out of highschool, crowned the king and chosen one before playing his first NBA game, being named the next MJ, etc.

I think it's safe to say he's lived up to the expectations, and on pace to the official GOAT in the NBA.

pegasus

01-13-2014, 03:07 PM

http://www.82games.com/1112/11MIA8.HTM

All the numbers say you're full of shit, and don't know what you're talking about.

It says "2011-2012 NBA Season". We are in 2013-14. Let us know when you catch up.

FrobeShaw

01-13-2014, 03:09 PM

It says "2011-2012 NBA Season". We are in 2013-14. Let us know when you catch up.

I thought LeBron could never win in this league? Why are you still posting? Have some shame.

pegasus

01-13-2014, 03:10 PM

I thought LeBron could never win in this league? Why are you still posting? Have some shame.

When did I say that? ("when" is the operative word)

KingBeasley08

01-13-2014, 03:11 PM

Because he is the greatest player since Jordan

PJR

01-13-2014, 03:13 PM

It says "2011-2012 NBA Season". We are in 2013-14. Let us know when you catch up.

My bad. Wrong link. Here you go: http://www.82games.com/1314/13MIA8.HTM

They still say you're full of shit.

kNicKz

01-13-2014, 03:15 PM

Because he is the greatest player since Jordan

Shaq >

lol

KingBeasley08

01-13-2014, 03:16 PM

Shaq >

lol
True.

Greatest Perimeter player

Trollsmasher

01-13-2014, 03:19 PM

He is the best fast break player, the best post player and one of the best spot up shooters in the league.

There is no reason for him to try losing games by bombing it from midrange and expanding energy by playing additional minutes.

kNicKz

01-13-2014, 03:21 PM

True.

Greatest Perimeter player

http://i.imgur.com/AsZfQiZ.jpg

lol

Heavincent

01-13-2014, 03:25 PM

His regular season FG% is inflated. He went from 57% in the regular season to 49% in the postseason :confusedshrug:

pegasus

01-13-2014, 03:26 PM

My bad. Wrong link. Here you go: http://www.82games.com/1314/13MIA8.HTM

They still say you're full of shit.

How?:roll: It only confirms what I said that he gets half of his points from fastbreaks/easy layups, dunks, etc.

Marlo_Stanfield

01-13-2014, 03:31 PM

LeBron James is the best NBA player ever. Kobe and MJ stans can get as mad as they want, it wont change a thang

Rose'sACL

01-13-2014, 03:34 PM

How?:roll: It only confirms what I said that he gets half of his points from fastbreaks/easy layups, dunks, etc.
i guess that means that other players don't try as hard? also, most of his layups are hard if you watch the games. you have to make great cuts and leave your defender behind to do that. that is a skill. i know that for guys like you if a player isn't hitting shots like curry does while averaging 25+ ppg then he is a scrub and has no skill.

PJR

01-13-2014, 03:35 PM

How?:roll: It only confirms what I said that he gets half of his points from fastbreaks/easy layups, dunks, etc.

:facepalm

Not sure if you graduated from grade school or not, but just incase you didn't, I'll let you know that 'half' is equal to 50%.

LeBron's shot selection broken up into percentages:

Jump shot
60%

Close
32%

Dunk
6%

Inside
40%

So....yeah.

Rose'sACL

01-13-2014, 03:39 PM

:facepalm

Not sure if you graduated from grade school or not, but just incase you didn't, I'll let you know that 'half' is equal to 50%.

LeBron's shot selection broken up into percentages:

Jump shot
60%

Close
32%

Dunk
6%

Inside
40%

So....yeah.
he is still in school .he will most probably drop out because of maths being too hard.

pegasus

01-13-2014, 03:40 PM

i guess that means that other players don't try as hard? also, most of his layups are hard if you watch the games. you have to make great cuts and leave your defender behind to do that. that is a skill. i know that for guys like you if a player isn't hitting shots like curry does while averaging 25+ ppg then he is a scrub and has no skill.
Get out of here with that BS! When he's challenged at the rim, he misses more than you would expect from someone with his size and athleticism. Whether you like it or not, thanks to their defense & passing & Wade, he does get a ton of easy layups/dunks. I'm not saying he would be shooting 40% if his team wasn't super stacked, but sure as hell he wouldn't be shooting anywhere near 60%.

pegasus

01-13-2014, 03:42 PM

:facepalm

Not sure if you graduated from grade school or not, but just incase you didn't, I'll let you know that 'half' is equal to 50%.

LeBron's shot selection broken up into percentages:

Jump shot
60%

Close
32%

Dunk
6%

Inside
40%

So....yeah.

I said he PASSES 90% of the time when he is behind the arc. I didn't say 90% of his shots come from inside the paint. I also said half of his points come from easy layups/dunks, and your little link confirms that whether your little brain gets it or not.

Rose'sACL

01-13-2014, 03:42 PM

Get out of here with that BS! When he's challenged at the rim, he misses more than you would expect from someone with his size and athleticism. Whether you like it or not, thanks to their defense & passing & Wade, he does get a ton of easy layups/dunks. I'm not saying he would be shooting 40% if his team wasn't super stacked, but sure as hell he wouldn't be shooting anywhere near 60%.
that is why i said that leaving your defender behind is a skill. get back to school and learn to read. also, he torches pretty much anyone of his size in post one-on-one these days. it is even more clear this season but i know you don't watch the games.

Rose'sACL

01-13-2014, 03:44 PM

I said he PASSES 90% of the time when he is behind the arc. I didn't say 90% of his shots come from inside the paint. I also said half of his points come from easy layups/dunks, and your little link confirms that whether your little brain gets it or not.
so you are saying that he should take 7-8 3 pointers a game along with 4-5 mid range jumpers and let ray allen and battier operate in the paint.
apply for a job as head coach of new york knicks.

Marlo_Stanfield

01-13-2014, 03:45 PM

PJR

01-13-2014, 03:46 PM

I said he PASSES 90% of the time when he is behind the arc. I didn't say 90% of his shots come from inside the paint. I also said half of his points come from easy layups/dunks, and your little link confirms that whether your little brain gets it or not.

He doesn't pass 90% of the time when he's behind the arc. And half of his points do not come from easy layups/dunks.

You're wrong all the way around. So please stop talking out of your ass.

PJR

01-13-2014, 03:48 PM

so you are saying that he should take 7-8 3 pointers a game along with 4-5 mid range jumpers and let ray allen and battier operate in the paint.
apply for a job as head coach of new york knicks.

:oldlol: This is exactly what he's implying, unfortunately. This is the level retard we have on this board.

Serious, how SHOULD LeBron play? Please enlighten us all Coach Pegasus.

Milbuck

01-13-2014, 03:49 PM

Lebron haters have no reason to worry, next time Bron plays my Bucks Giannis will lock him up. Knock those %s down big time

Trollsmasher

01-13-2014, 03:49 PM

Rose'sACL

01-13-2014, 03:50 PM

:oldlol: This is exactly what he's implying, unfortunately. This is the level retard we have on this board.

Serious, how SHOULD LeBron play? Please enlighten us all Coach Pegasus.
what is worse is that this board was laughing at him when he was bad in the post but now that he can take anyone of his size in the post 1-on-1 and score at a very high percentage, everyone wants him to shoot.

Trollsmasher

01-13-2014, 03:53 PM

what is worse is that this board was laughing at him when he was bad in the post but now that he can take anyone of his size in the post 1-on-1 and score at a very high percentage, everyone wants him to shoot.
"He shoots too much. Can't post up JJ Barea. What a loser!"

3 years later, after becoming the best post player in the league

"He only shoots layup or dunks:roll: Why doesn't he shoot more jump shots and mainly 30 footers?"

K Xerxes

01-13-2014, 03:54 PM

pegasus

01-13-2014, 03:56 PM

BlazerRed

01-13-2014, 03:58 PM

Da fuq?

Hes shooting 42% from midrange this year. Where are you getting a BS figure of 30% from?
Midrange king :bowdown:

Please no one ever talk about LBJ's field goal percentage and him being a perimeter player again :sleeping

PJR

01-13-2014, 04:07 PM

To all the idiots above, I'm not saying he should change how he's playing. I'm just explaining how he is shooting(!) 60% from the field. Other than a few dickriders like you guys, everyone sees what I'm/we're talking about anyway.

He's shooting 59% because he's really ****ing good, dummy (it's ok, you can admit it). In addition to the fact he also plays on a great team, and in a great system.

Marlo_Stanfield

01-13-2014, 04:12 PM

I don't think anyone who's not trolling really cares what LeBron does in the regular season anymore. He's proved himself on this stage for his entire career. Hell weren't people saying he'll go down as one of the GOAT regular season player even before he won a ring?

The goal is the chip, so unless this costs him in the playoffs, it shouldn't matter how he's taking his shots. Dude is still averaging 26-7-7 which is close enough to his career numbers.

However I do think this may ultimately come to bite him in the ass. He's gonna have to hit those midrange shots come playoff time when defenses clamp down on fast breaks and stop allowing him an open lane to the basket. IMO, he should sacrifice whatever efficiency goal he has in favor of keeping his jumpshot in rhythm so he can nail those shots when it matters most.
hes taking quite a few midrange jumpers this season. i swear they look the worst when he is settling against slower players for that shot. like he thinks in his head its a bad basketball play and then he bricks horribly. if he takes them in the flow of the game, naturally or in the clutch they look smoove as fck most of the time which i hope will also be the case in the playoffs

FrobeShaw

01-13-2014, 04:20 PM

Midrange king :bowdown:

Please no one ever talk about LBJ's field goal percentage and him being a perimeter player again :sleeping

He still starts from the perimeter, you tool. It's not like he's camped in the paint doing work like a big. He slashes to the paint. :rolleyes:

DonDadda59

01-13-2014, 04:23 PM

I know Michael Jordan is pissed he wasn't born later and didn't get a chance to play in this watered down, ultra weak defensive era. I wonder what his shooting percentages would be. He could finish at/get to the basket as well/better than Lebron and also had an infinitely better post up and mid range game.

And Bean stans were really rolling with that 'Advanced Defense' bullshit for a while there too. Bet they feel ridiculous now seeing a perimeter player with no post game and a shaky jumper shoot 60% from the field :lol

russwest0

01-13-2014, 04:23 PM

LeBron James is the best NBA player ever. Kobe and MJ stans can get as mad as they want, it wont change a thang

Jan 14 in a nutshell

Blue&Orange

01-13-2014, 04:24 PM

He's shooting 59% because he's really ****ing good, dummy (it's ok, you can admit it). In addition to the fact he also plays on a great team, and in a great system.
lol he is shooting 59% because he is the biggest cherry picker in the history of the NBA, Heat can be losing by 10 points and dude won't be taking no shot he doesn't feel good about.

Dude passes shots in the paint because he doesn't like the angle, shots that 99,9% of all the players that played in the NBA till today, would have taken... maybe Prigioni and Fredette can be added to that list.

russwest0

01-13-2014, 04:24 PM

His regular season FG% is inflated. He went from 57% in the regular season to 49% in the postseason :confusedshrug:

Holy shit that is an epic drop off :lol

BlazerRed

01-13-2014, 04:25 PM

He still starts from the perimeter, you tool. It's not like he's camped in the paint doing work like a big. He slashes to the paint. :rolleyes:
Whatever helps you sleep at night :cheers:

Swedish Chef

01-13-2014, 04:25 PM

I veell steeck my feest up yuoor unoos. Bork Bork Bork!

BlazerRed

01-13-2014, 04:26 PM

Holy shit that is an epic drop off :lol
That's because he plays in the worst conference the NBA has ever seen :sleeping

FrobeShaw

01-13-2014, 04:26 PM

Whatever helps you sleep at night :cheers:

????

No argument? Should've never replied.

K Xerxes

01-13-2014, 04:27 PM

hes taking quite a few midrange jumpers this season. i swear they look the worst when he is settling against slower players for that shot. like he thinks in his head its a bad basketball play and then he bricks horribly. if he takes them in the flow of the game, naturally or in the clutch they look smoove as fck most of the time which i hope will also be the case in the playoffs

Yeah I've noticed that too. Even on 3 point shots, he sometimes hesitates when he receives the ball wide open before letting it fly. I imagine it's because he's so determined to get the best shot possible each possession that it disrupts his rhythm without question.

If I was Spo, I'd order him to immediately shoot any open shots he gets from the 3 point line inwards. Doesn't matter if he gets 5 shots in a row, it's the best shot to take every time. Screw your team mates sometimes - if the defense is giving you the shot, you need to take it as the best player in the game.

russwest0

01-13-2014, 04:28 PM

LMAO @ this play

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vmX2TKKgXw

The whole entire Heat defense is back but LeBron.... they are playing 4v5 and get a steal and heave it downcourt to LeBron who has like 5 seconds of time to dunk....

Biggest cherry picker the league has ever seen. And people wonder why his averages drop drastically in the playoffs? :oldlol:

LeBron 06

01-13-2014, 04:29 PM

lol he is shooting 59% because he is the biggest cherry picker in the history of the NBA, Heat can be losing by 10 points and dude won't be taking no shot he doesn't feel good about.

Dude passes shots in the paint because he doesn't like the angle, shots that 99,9% of all the players that played in the NBA till today, would have taken... maybe Prigioni and Fredette can be added to that list.

He shot 59% because LeBron is too good

If LeBron would have only 15 PPG,I could understand the criticism, but at 26 PPG, it's not a problem!

Rose'sACL

01-13-2014, 04:31 PM

That's because he plays in the worst conference the NBA has ever seen :sleeping
are you sure? east is bad this season but teams have made playoffs on records of something like 30 wins . i am pretty sure no one is getting into playoffs with wins in 20s this season given how nets and knicks are playing now. nice to know that you only pretend to be a knowledgeable poster.

BlazerRed

01-13-2014, 04:35 PM

are you sure? east is bad this season but teams have made playoffs on records of something like 30 wins . i am pretty sure no one is getting into playoffs with wins in 20s this season given how nets and knicks are playing now. nice to know that you only pretend to be a knowledgeable poster.
Oh so you're saying the East is a power house then? :bowdown:

Lets nor pretend this isn't one of the weakest Eastern Conferences in history just because it feeds your agenda.

Rose'sACL

01-13-2014, 04:37 PM

Oh so you're saying the East is a power house then? :bowdown:

Lets nor pretend this isn't one of the weakest Eastern Conferences in history just because it feeds your agenda.
i wrote that east is bad in my post. you wrote it is the worst ever. i am guessing you are new to this thing called reading.
are you trying to copy russwest0 right now?

FrobeShaw

01-13-2014, 04:38 PM

i wrote that east is bad in my post. you wrote it is the worst ever. i am guessing you are new to this thing called reading.
are you trying to copy russwest0 right now?

I love the irony of him talking about agenda. :roll:

Legends66NBA7

01-13-2014, 04:39 PM

i wrote that east is bad in my post. you wrote it is the worst ever.

And there's a good reason to believe it's the worst ever with the way some of these teams are playing right now.

imdaman99

01-13-2014, 04:39 PM

This is basically saying, if you're gonna force a jumper to make him go right.

I hope KD is studying this so he's ready to cover him this time around in the Finals.

Flash31

01-13-2014, 04:40 PM

If you're really saying Shooting 60% fg with 26 ppg
and only 7 fta is bad regardless of where someone shoots it

You should stop posting about basketball period.

LeBron stans and LeBron haters both BOTH STFU.

Ive seen Stans prop up LJ and trash His team(oh Wade had 15 ppg in playoffs,yet don't mention his Finals avg)
Ive seen haters trash LJ and oh stacked team(but would somehow lose to almost every single other great team and Ind will beat them in their opinion)

LJ shoots 60% and avg 27 ppg
Awesome,Legendary,but that doesnt take away from how his teammates are(stacked,trash,good,bad)
and it doesnt immediately prop him GOAT

but it also doesnt mean what some retards believe to justify their irrational hatred,jealousy,and envy of his play(cherry picked,only at rim,no long range,no iso)

LJ stats are awesome period from fg%
no ifs buts,hating about it but it doesnt deem him goat

LJ is a great player but he's not even in contention for Goat
conversation yet,YET so ease up Stans
conversely LJ is having a phenomenal career and season so
Haters gonna hate
but both of yall types STFU about it

BlazerRed

01-13-2014, 04:47 PM

i wrote that east is bad in my post. you wrote it is the worst ever. i am guessing you are new to this thing called reading.
are you trying to copy russwest0 right now?

If you think you're so clever, prove I'm wrong. When in history have such a large amount of bad teams had a shot at playoffs?

Rose'sACL

01-13-2014, 04:54 PM

If you think you're so clever, prove I'm wrong. When in history have such a large amount of bad teams had a shot at playoffs?
current playoff prediction is a team with 35 wins making the 8th seed based on past and future records of team. bulls made playoffs with 30 wins in jordan's second year when he was injured if i am not wrong.

Blue&Orange

01-13-2014, 05:08 PM

Holy shit that is an epic drop off :lol
while playing bucks 1st round, fast break dunk parade.

Joe Anderson

01-13-2014, 05:20 PM

That's because he plays in the worst conference the NBA has ever seen :sleeping
Actually the East was just as bad if not worse in MJ's early years. His Bulls would constantly make the playoffs with 30 to 34 wins a season. Pathetic if you ask me. I have lurked here since the summer and used to think you were a decent poster, but it appears I may have been mistaken.

Joe Anderson

01-13-2014, 05:21 PM

current playoff prediction is a team with 35 wins making the 8th seed based on past and future records of team. bulls made playoffs with 30 wins in jordan's second year when he was injured if i am not wrong.
Your post appears to have silenced him lol. Watch him not even post in this thread again, and if he does he will quickly change the subject. :lol

Blue&Orange

01-13-2014, 05:22 PM

current playoff prediction is a team with 35 wins making the 8th seed based on past and future records of team. bulls made playoffs with 30 wins in jordan's second year when he was injured if i am not wrong.
and only in your head and idiots like yourself the strength of a conference can be measured by the record of the 8th seed.

FrobeShaw

01-13-2014, 05:23 PM

Your post appears to have silenced him lol. Watch him not even post in this thread again, and if he does he will quickly change the subject. :lol

He does that a lot. He has zero argumentative skills. :roll:

TheMarkMadsen

01-13-2014, 05:24 PM

Actually the East was just as bad if not worse in MJ's early years. His Bulls would constantly make the playoffs with 30 to 34 wins a season. Pathetic if you ask me. I have lurked here since the summer and used to think you were a decent poster, but it appears I may have been mistaken.

Damn I'm sure the OP is just out right depressed knowing some guy who used to lurk on a message board might not hold him in high regards anymore

Joe Anderson

01-13-2014, 05:25 PM

Yeah I've noticed that too. Even on 3 point shots, he sometimes hesitates when he receives the ball wide open before letting it fly. I imagine it's because he's so determined to get the best shot possible each possession that it disrupts his rhythm without question.

If I was Spo, I'd order him to immediately shoot any open shots he gets from the 3 point line inwards. Doesn't matter if he gets 5 shots in a row, it's the best shot to take every time. Screw your team mates sometimes - if the defense is giving you the shot, you need to take it as the best player in the game.
I agree that he should take more open mid range jumpers, but regular season rhythm doesn't always carry over to the playoffs. Last season Lebron shot 46 percent from 16-23 feet, a better percentage than Durant, Kobe, and Steph Curry. For some reason he still went cold from that range in the playoffs, especially in the finals. Sometimes it's just about getting hot at the right time I guess.