Rondo to Pacers, Granger to Rocket, Asik+ Hill to Boston

[VIntageNOvel]

and some picks to boston from either rocket and pacers

win win:rockon:

Rocket get rid of Asik contract, move parson to PF (stretch 4), add a solid veteran in granger

Boston get the center they want without sacrificing green, get some pick to rebuild

Pacers last piece will be finally there

(maybe pacers can absorb lin or wallace contract to make it happen)

[MMM]

The Celtics are in a good position to rebuild without trading their best player. No need to trade Rondo when the C's have a lot of assets to rebuild quickly.

[Pursuer]

The Celtics are in a good position to rebuild without trading their best player. No need to trade Rondo when the C's have a lot of assets to rebuild quickly.

Rebuild for what? Winning the Atlantic division?

[MMM]

Rebuild for what? Winning the Atlantic division?

The C's aren't that far from being a top level contender, they have assets to acquire a star if one becomes available via trade. A star plus healthy Rondo would be a contender if a team like the current Pacers are a contender.

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

Rebuild for what? Winning the Atlantic division?
The Celtics have 9 first round Draft picks in the next five years. A few extra picks from contending teams (late first rounders) isn't good enough for the Celtics to give away their best player. And Asik would mean nothing to the Celtics if they gave up Rondo.

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

Boston get the center they want without sacrificing green, get some pick to rebuild

You say this as if it's better for the Celtics to give up Rondo for Asik instead of Green.

[jdm_dc_fan]

it's funny how people think Danny is naive. He built a team to contend and did it in the first season. No one has yet to do this since 07' and it has been the trend ever since.

[crunk-juice]

the

pacers

do

not

want

Rondo


the chances of him harming the team are far greater than helping.

[I<3NBA]

the

pacers

do

not

want

Rondo


the chances of him harming the team are far greater than helping.
:coleman:

[crunk-juice]

:coleman:



they are 23-5


feel free to explain how I'm wrong :confusedshrug:

[Derka]

We don't need more picks. Nine or ten 1st round picks in the next five years, I think at this point...if anything, most of these picks we have NEED to be going somewhere else.

Meanwhile, a rebuilding centerpiece in exchange for a center with no hands? Not interested. We're getting to the point where the guys we have now are playing more and more like trade-worthy assets we can use to land a game-changing player because Christ knows we're not landing any free agents worth a hoot. Danny is moving this process along much quicker than any of us anticipated up here. He can do this without giving up Rondo *or* Green.

Home games are still packed with great fans, still a lot of fun even when we lose and the players seem to embrace that no one's giving them a shot. Can't ask for more from them.

[PacerRaptor]

The writer has no clue what he's talking about. He's speaks about trading our 2014 1st round pick....we don't own that pick anymore, Phx has it (in the Scola trade)

[K Xerxes]

the

pacers

do

not

want

Rondo


the chances of him harming the team are far greater than helping.

The Pacers are a competent Point Guard away from winning it all.

[steve]

The Pacers are a competent Point Guard away from winning it all.

And Rondo really isn't the point guard they're looking for. I don't entirely understand why people think the Pacers want to move Hill or don't think he's right for their system. The Hill/Stephenson/George/West/Hibbert line-up was one of the strongest high volume line-ups in the league last season and they've only gotten better this season. In fact, there isn't a five man unit that has logged over 100 minutes so far playing better than them.

Hill isn't a traditional playmaking point guard, but then the Pacers don't really need one considering they find ways to get their playmaking from other places and take advantage specifically of things both George and Stephenson do well. If they traded for a ball dominant point guard like Rondo, it would end up making George a less dynamic player and completely cut Stephenson off at the knees from being effective on offense. Not to mention, you wouldn't have the added bonus of having a player who can knock down shots like Hill when one of those two (or West for that matter) have the ball.

[hitmanyr2k]

And Rondo really isn't the point guard they're looking for. I don't entirely understand why people think the Pacers want to move Hill or don't think he's right for their system. The Hill/Stephenson/George/West/Hibbert line-up was one of the strongest high volume line-ups in the league last season and they've only gotten better this season. In fact, there isn't a five man unit that has logged over 100 minutes so far playing better than them.

Hill isn't a traditional playmaking point guard, but then the Pacers don't really need one considering they find ways to get their playmaking from other places and take advantage specifically of things both George and Stephenson do well. If they traded for a ball dominant point guard like Rondo, it would end up making George a less dynamic player and completely cut Stephenson off at the knees from being effective on offense. Not to mention, you wouldn't have the added bonus of having a player who can knock down shots like Hill when one of those two (or West for that matter) have the ball.

The Pacers as-is will compile a great record beating shit teams every other night but the goal is a championship and when they get to the playoffs and face pressure defense it's going to be their typical bonehead turnover fest. NONE of those guys are dependable ball-handlers, decision makers, or passers against elite defenses and that's where they would need a legit point guard.

[steve]

The Pacers as-is will compile a great record beating shit teams every other night but the goal is a championship and when they get to the playoffs and face pressure defense it's going to be their typical bonehead turnover fest. NONE of those guys are dependable ball-handlers, decision makers, or passers against elite defenses and that's where they would need a legit point guard.

Yes, but they would end up sacrificing things they do particularly well. If they trade for Rondo, their spacing suffers and their defense also takes a hit. The trade off just wouldn't be worth it for the Pacers to make this kind of move.

And the way you describe it here, you act like this team didn't come within a game of making the NBA Finals last season and are playing significantly better basketball than they were a year ago.

[CelticBaller]

The pacers need a PG if they want to beat the Heat. I'd say Goran Dragic? Efficient scorer, underrated pg and can shoot the ball

[VIntageNOvel]

The pacers need a PG if they want to beat the Heat. I'd say Goran Dragic? Efficient scorer, underrated pg and can shoot the ball

would the trade idea work if you replace rondo with dragic?
asik + hill to suns bledsoe can become a starting PG with hill as a solid back up,
the addition of asik would make em even deeper

[Dro]

And Rondo really isn't the point guard they're looking for. I don't entirely understand why people think the Pacers want to move Hill or don't think he's right for their system. The Hill/Stephenson/George/West/Hibbert line-up was one of the strongest high volume line-ups in the league last season and they've only gotten better this season. In fact, there isn't a five man unit that has logged over 100 minutes so far playing better than them.

Hill isn't a traditional playmaking point guard, but then the Pacers don't really need one considering they find ways to get their playmaking from other places and take advantage specifically of things both George and Stephenson do well. If they traded for a ball dominant point guard like Rondo, it would end up making George a less dynamic player and completely cut Stephenson off at the knees from being effective on offense. Not to mention, you wouldn't have the added bonus of having a player who can knock down shots like Hill when one of those two (or West for that matter) have the ball.
Finally someone with some sense and who actually watches the Pacers play. The Pacers don't NEED anybody else. They can win the title as they are constructed. That doesn't mean that they will...

[VIntageNOvel]

Finally someone with some sense and who actually watches the Pacers play. The Pacers don't NEED anybody else. They can win the title as they are constructed. That doesn't mean that they will...

nah brah even if they can pass the heat, they will lose to thunder, very bad match up, durant is freaking long, westbrook would eat hill alive, and perkins defense is pretty good against big center like bynum howard etc, finally some use

[highwhey]

would the trade idea work if you replace rondo with dragic?
asik + hill to suns bledsoe can become a starting PG with hill as a solid back up,
the addition of asik would make em even deeper
Asik would make the suns too slow and not worth it for goran dragic, he and bledsoe orchestrate the offense together and do it well.

[highwhey]

Yes, but they would end up sacrificing things they do particularly well. If they trade for Rondo, their spacing suffers and their defense also takes a hit. The trade off just wouldn't be worth it for the Pacers to make this kind of move.

And the way you describe it here, you act like this team didn't come within a game of making the NBA Finals last season and are playing significantly better basketball than they were a year ago. how the hell does rondo make them worse defensively?

There's a big asterisk with your last comment as well:
*playing significantly better against inferior competition

they're most recent meeting, pacers made the same fatal mistakes by turning over the ball. Paul George is having a career year, but he was made irrelevant by Lebrons defense.

[ProfessorMurder]

Anyone who thinks Rondo would make the Pacers worse is a straight up moron.

He has a low usage percentage, he make Perkins look good, he beasts in the playoffs and he perfectly sets up teammates for jumpers... Oh and he's also a first team defender, and all he's done in the offseason is work on his jumper since he couldn't run.

He's miles better than George Hill, and won't panic against the Heat.

[Dro]

nah brah even if they can pass the heat, they will lose to thunder, very bad match up, durant is freaking long, westbrook would eat hill alive, and perkins defense is pretty good against big center like bynum howard etc, finally some use
I know its all about matchups but if they beat the Heat, I have no worries about any other team they would face. Miami is the best team in the NBA.