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SacJB Shady
11-19-2013, 04:24 PM
Maybe the most important factor in Iguodala's offensive success this season has been his three-point shooting. Long an inconsistent-at-best three-point shooter, Iguodala has made 52.4 percent of his attempts from beyond the arc this season. The main reason for this? He's always open.

Iguodala is often the fifth-biggest offensive threat on the court. Of his 407 minutes played so far this season, he's been on the court with the Curry-Thompson-Lee-Bogut foursome for 192 of them. In those minutes, Iguodala has made 61.9 percent of his three point shots, according to nbawowy. Of the 18 spot-up threes he has had made this year, per Synergy, I count 14 that were taken without so much as a hand in his face at the moment of release.

Because of the myriad offensive threats around him, Iguodala finds himself having to take only the most wide open shots from the perimeter. As such, he's attempting fewer shots per game and per 36 minutes than at any time since his second season in the league, and his efficiency has skyrocketed.

He's shooting 60.9 percent from the field and his 72.2 true shooting and 72.8 effective field-goal percentage both lead the league. These percentages are bound to come back to earth over the next few weeks, but the quality of looks he's getting from, and creating for his teammates, and denying the opposition is a real thing that should stay consistent over the course of the season.

Jared Dubin works for Bloomberg Sports, writes and edits for the ESPN TrueHoop Network sites Hardwood Paroxysm and HoopChalk, is a freelance contributor toGrantland, and is coauthor of We'll Always Have Linsanity.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1856797-breaking-down-andre-iguodalas-versatility-for-golden-state-warriors

KG215
11-19-2013, 04:29 PM
Right now he's shooting 19% better from 3 than his career 3P%, 15% better from the floor than his career FG%, 17% better than his career TS%, and 23% better than his career eFG%.

In other words, it's highly likely him maintaining this level of insanely efficient scoring won't continue, and when he does start to regress to the mean, it's going to be sudden and drastic.


Meant to add...I don't think he'll completely come back to his career averages, because I do agree that playing alongside players like Curry, Thompson, Lee, and even Barnes (who has looked pretty good lately) will give him more open looks than he's ever had in his career. But there will be some level of regression, and it will still probably be pretty drastic. He's not going to have a 60/50 FG/3P season along with 70%+ TS and eFG.

SacJB Shady
11-19-2013, 04:31 PM
Right now he's shooting 19% better from 3 than his career 3P%, 15% better from the floor than hsi career FG%, 17% better than his career TS%, and 23% better than his career eFG%.

In other words, it's highly likely him maintaining this level of insanely efficient scoring won't continue, and when he does start to regress to the mean, it's going to be sudden and drastic.


Hey, teams gotta focus on curry and klay, so iggy will continue to get his open looks if they're on the floor. Plus bogut and lee pass well to him.

Uncle Drew
11-19-2013, 04:32 PM
No.

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads7/528bcad9e979c/528bcad9e64cd-dddd.png

bdreason
11-19-2013, 04:33 PM
In other words, it's highly likely him maintaining this level of insanely efficient scoring won't continue, and when he does start to regress to the mean, it's going to be sudden and drastic.


I'm not so sure about that. Iggy is in the perfect situation for his style of play. Iggy likes to be a playmaker, not a scorer. On this Warriors team, they don't NEED him to score a single bucket, and the level of freedom that creates has him playing at a level he's never achieved in his career. I'm not saying he's going to maintain his current percentages, but I expect Iggy to have a career best year in efficiency, and by a wide margin.

Bobcats2013
11-19-2013, 04:33 PM
Right now he's shooting 19% better from 3 than his career 3P%, 15% better from the floor than his career FG%, 17% better than his career TS%, and 23% better than his career eFG%.

In other words, it's highly likely him maintaining this level of insanely efficient scoring won't continue, and when he does start to regress to the mean, it's going to be sudden and drastic.

You sure about that? Iggy hasn't been in this position yet in his career. He's the 4th offensive option on the team. Teams aren't paying attention to him and he's getting a ton of open looks.

KG215
11-19-2013, 04:36 PM
You sure about that? Iggy hasn't been in this position yet in his career. He's the 4th offensive option on the team. Teams aren't paying attention to him and he's getting a ton of open looks.
Yeah, and then I get the bad edit in way too late. I meant to say I think he'll probably be beter than his career averages, but he's not going to keep up this level of efficiency. And I'd be highly surprised if he's within 10% points of any of his current efficiency numbers. Meaning...

His career averages : 46% FG, 33% 3P, 55% TS, and 50% eFG

Current: 61% FG, 52% 3P, 72% TS, 73% eFG


So if I think he comes down by 10-12 percentage points in every category, he'd still be above his career averages. I should've clarified better in my first post.

SacJB Shady
11-19-2013, 04:37 PM
No.

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads7/528bcad9e979c/528bcad9e64cd-dddd.png



Yes. all you're proving is iguodala has taken far more shots than all the above. Iggy has taken less than Lebron, but much more than Quincy Adams.

SacJB Shady
11-19-2013, 04:38 PM
Yeah, and then I get the bad edit in way too late. I meant to say I think he'll probably be beter than his career averages, but he's not going to keep up this level of efficiency. And I'd be highly surprised if he's within 10% points of any of his current efficiency numbers. Meaning...

His career averages : 46% FG, 33% 3P, 55% TS, and 50% eFG

Current: 61% FG, 52% 3P, 72% TS, 73% eFG


So if I think he comes down by 10-12 percentage points in every category, he'd still be above his career averages. I should've clarified better in my first post.


Maybe, but I think he's going to go up 5 to 10 percent

DMAVS41
11-19-2013, 04:47 PM
It's impressive, but hard to get all worked up about a player averaging only 14 ppg in terms of efficiency.

Hoopz2332
11-19-2013, 04:48 PM
dude only takes 8 shots per game:coleman:

http://i.imgur.com/CCSbDGK.png

inclinerator
11-19-2013, 04:51 PM
lol that kobe pic is killing me

SacJB Shady
11-19-2013, 05:00 PM
dude only takes 8 shots per game:coleman:

http://i.imgur.com/CCSbDGK.png


He's a glue guy and not selfish. He could take 0 shots per game and still be effective.

Hoopz2332
11-19-2013, 05:07 PM
He's a glue guy and not selfish. He could take 0 shots per game and still be effective.


I agree but he's not as good as lebron, like you said in that other thread. He's not even as good as Paul George.

SacJB Shady
11-19-2013, 05:27 PM
I agree but he's not as good as lebron, like you said in that other thread. He's not even as good as Paul George.


I didn't say that in the other thread

russwest0
11-19-2013, 05:37 PM
Wow, Igoudala = LeBron

Both good efficient role players who need a Wade/Curry to contend

riseagainst
11-19-2013, 05:40 PM
he has the highest TS and eFG, therefore he must be the best scorer in the league.

Eric Cartman
11-19-2013, 05:41 PM
iggy is a homeless man lebron on offense and that ain't half bad my friends, especially when he is one of the top wing defenders in the league

SacJB Shady
11-19-2013, 05:48 PM
Wow, Igoudala = LeBron

Both good efficient role players who need a Wade/Curry to contend

This

SacJB Shady
11-19-2013, 05:49 PM
he has the highest TS and eFG, therefore he must be the best scorer in the league.


But he rather get his teammates involved. Klay said he's shooting so well because Iggy is finding him.

riseagainst
11-19-2013, 05:52 PM
Wow, Igoudala = LeBron

Both good efficient role players who need a Wade/Curry to contend

yeah, well said. Lebron is a poor man's Iguodala.

Mr. Jabbar
11-19-2013, 05:53 PM
dude only takes 8 shots per game:coleman:

http://i.imgur.com/CCSbDGK.png

whos that handsome guy at bottom right

russwest0
11-19-2013, 06:05 PM
yeah, well said. Lebron is a poor man's Iguodala.

He's better at scoring but way worse at D. I'd say Brons a bit better

SacJB Shady
11-19-2013, 06:06 PM
He's better at scoring but way worse at D. I'd say Brons a bit better


not much though. i prefer Iggy tbh

SacJB Shady
11-19-2013, 06:08 PM
yeah, well said. Lebron is a poor man's Iguodala.


That's true. But I don't think Lebron is a poor man version like you said, they are close

SacJB Shady
11-19-2013, 06:08 PM
whos that handsome guy at bottom right



:lol

kurple
11-19-2013, 06:41 PM
No.

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads7/528bcad9e979c/528bcad9e64cd-dddd.png
Q.Miller > Iggy

SacJB Shady
11-19-2013, 06:43 PM
Q.Miller > Iggy


No Kurple. Last year you rode Iguodala's dick.

no pun intended
11-21-2013, 02:01 AM
Ouch and just like that.

MP.Trey
11-21-2013, 02:03 AM
konex level shit :oldlol:

ZMonkey11
11-21-2013, 02:54 AM
dude only takes 8 shots per game:coleman:

http://i.imgur.com/CCSbDGK.png

Kobe approves and wants him on the Lakers.

Uncle Drew
11-21-2013, 02:57 AM
3/14 woooooo :rockon:

SacJB Shady
11-21-2013, 03:23 AM
3/14 woooooo :rockon:


But 21 points, 14 assists :applause:

Uncle Drew
11-21-2013, 03:37 AM
But 21 points, 14 assists :applause:
That's not the subject of this thread. His TS% and eFG% are now down to 66%, which ranks him 26th in the league. That's behind dudes like Jodie Meeks and Anthony Morrow. So you can just stop with this gimmick.

OmniStrife
11-21-2013, 04:03 AM
He's the best player in the league to have as your best 3rd / 4th player imo

OhNoTimNoSho
11-21-2013, 10:11 AM
No.

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads7/528bcad9e979c/528bcad9e64cd-dddd.png
But hes right up there with the likes of Quncy Miller and Julyan Stone and thats pretty impressive.

OhNoTimNoSho
11-21-2013, 10:11 AM
Igoudala is the best average player in the NBA

JimmyMcAdocious
11-21-2013, 10:13 AM
What's the minutes column in that chart? mpg, I presume?