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Foster5k
06-15-2013, 08:33 AM
If you're a GM and had to pick between taking 06 Wade or 13 Lebron, which one would you take right now?

Rubio2Gasol
06-15-2013, 08:36 AM
Lebron easily.

06 Wade wasn't anything special.

aj1987
06-15-2013, 08:42 AM
Lebron easily.

06 Wade wasn't anything special.
Are you stupid? '06 Wade destroyed the Piston and Ben was the DPOY that year, Rip was an All-Star, Chauncey was an All-Star and made the All-Defensive team, Tayshaun was on the All-Defensive team, and even Sheed was an All-Star. They won 64 games that year. It's not like it was a scrub team or anything. Wade did something that even Kobe wasn't able to do, and Kobe had a prime Shaq! 27/5/5/2/2 on 62%!

'06 Wade: 27/6/7/2/1 on 50% in the RS and 28/6/6/2/1 on 50% in the Playoffs.

Bobcats2013
06-15-2013, 08:46 AM
06 Wade easily.

dbk123
06-15-2013, 08:47 AM
Are you stupid? '06 Wade destroyed the Piston and Ben was the DPOY that year, Rip was an All-Star, Chauncey was an All-Star and made the All-Defensive team, Tayshaun was on the All-Defensive team, and even Sheed was an All-Star. They won 64 games that year. It's not like it was a scrub team or anything. Wade did something that even Kobe wasn't able to do, and Kobe had a prime Shaq! 27/5/5/2/2 on 62%!

'06 Wade: 27/6/7/2/1 on 50% in the RS and 28/6/6/2/1 on 50% in the Playoffs.
i think he was trolling

Rubio2Gasol
06-15-2013, 08:49 AM
Are you stupid? '06 Wade destroyed the Piston and Ben was the DPOY that year, Rip was an All-Star, Chauncey was an All-Star and made the All-Defensive team, Tayshaun was on the All-Defensive team, and even Sheed was an All-Star. They won 64 games that year. It's not like it was a scrub team or anything. Wade did something that even Kobe wasn't able to do, and Kobe had a prime Shaq! 27/5/5/2/2 on 62%!

Your stats have defeated me.

PJR
06-15-2013, 08:55 AM
Lebron easily.

06 Wade wasn't anything special.

Regular season: 27-7-6 58% TS, Postseason: 28-6-6 on 59% TS "nothing special". Get the **** outta here. :oldlol:

nathanjizzle
06-15-2013, 09:04 AM
06 d wade would completely annihilate this spurs team.

Ne 1
06-15-2013, 09:10 AM
Give me '06 Wade. Sometimes jack of all trades master of none types don't always get the job done. Wade did everything well, has a great all around games. But he could still go flip a switch/shift into a higher gear and be the absolute best player on the floor any night at a certain aspect of the game IE scoring.

pauk
06-15-2013, 09:14 AM
Are you serious?

HoopsFanNumero1
06-15-2013, 09:33 AM
People always bring up Wade in '06 because he won the Finals, but Wade's best seasons were in '09 and '11.

Akhenaten
06-15-2013, 09:37 AM
I'd take 06 Wade, him and 13 Lebron give you similar production but Wade had much better take over ability, I'd take 05 playoff Wade over Lebron too.

Lebron has been underwhelming in these playoffs to say the least.

Kblaze8855
06-15-2013, 09:51 AM
I thought you meant in the finals...which would have been rather obvious.

Bron has not and unlikely to ever do anything more impressive than Wades game 3:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rmkuShjCQs

That was the title pretty much. You cant go down 0-3. down 13 late....he goes off. And people forget that he also blocked the lob to Howard that would have sent it to OT.

Lebron has played better than he was in that game. But not in a situation like that. In the ECF he has. But not in the finals.

Jameerthefear
06-15-2013, 09:54 AM
Wade. Better on offense and defense.

305Baller
06-15-2013, 10:05 AM
LeBron if you need a post presence and rebounding but Wade would probably dominate offensively a little more.

PickernRoller
06-15-2013, 10:05 AM
Trick question. OP's such a jokester.

I go with the right answer = Wade.

ripthekik
06-15-2013, 10:08 AM
Wade.
Lebron has disappeared so many times in this playoffs already. Wade could not take 1 day off. That will result in an automatic loss. He didn't have 2 other all-stars to hold the fort.

Akhenaten
06-15-2013, 10:18 AM
People always bring up Wade in '06 because he won the Finals, but Wade's best seasons were in '09 and '11.

'11 Wade is criminally underrated but 06 isn't lauded just because of the Finals
he had a tremendous regular season and a all-time playoff RUN (not just the Finals).

28/6/6 on 50% + a championship including a series where he put up a Shaqesque 27 ppg on 62% vs a top 3-5 defense :bowdown:.

Shoot 05 Wade is MASSIVELY underrated; 26/9/6 50% vs prime Vince Carter

then swept a prime Arenas/Butler/Jamison Wizards with Shaq avg 16/7 in gms 1 and 2 in Miami and missing gms 3 and 4 on the road avg 31/8/7 on 54% :bowdown:

this was a better version of the team the media fellated Lebron for beating the following year with far inferior stats.

If only Wade had any sort of durability and a jumpshot he would EASILY and I mean EASILY be a top ten all-time player.

Frozen1
06-15-2013, 10:19 AM
The only reason Wade didn`t won a ring in his second year was because he got hurt in the ECF finals against the Pistons, the team that made kobe shoot less than 40% in the year before.

The next season he was healthy all playoffs, and the best defensive team in nba couldn`t hold him.

Wade in 06 easily.

To4
06-15-2013, 11:52 AM
Wade easily.. his jump shot and bank shot in 06 is so money!!!

AirFederer
06-15-2013, 11:59 AM
We talking Finals?

06 Wade was MJesque..
13 Lebron has not been at regular season level even..so choice is obvious.

Lebron has the skills to take over and dominate a series like that, maybe not in scoring, but it`s about mentality...

Ikill
06-15-2013, 12:43 PM
For a playoff run 06 Wade to get the most wins in the regular season 13 Lebron

AintNoSunshine
06-15-2013, 12:51 PM
Lebron hasn't impressed me in this playoffs, to say the least.

Stuckey
06-15-2013, 12:53 PM
Wade

Straight_Ballin
06-15-2013, 12:55 PM
The guy who doesn't choke in the finals. 06 wade obviously and it's not even close.

Straight_Ballin
06-15-2013, 12:57 PM
06 Wade and 13 Lebron >>>>>> any version of Kobe.

Kobe isn't a part of this thread. Quit bringing him into it to prop up lebron, as if he's even close to 06 Wade.

inclinerator
06-15-2013, 01:09 PM
wade if it was '12 lebron it be more comparable

Xiao Yao You
06-15-2013, 01:27 PM
Be hard to take anyone over finals Wade.

TylerOO
06-15-2013, 02:18 PM
Ill take any LeBron over any Wade.

tomtucker
06-15-2013, 02:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8Ul3NP6tKQ

Dwyane Wade - 2006 NBA Finals...........:bowdown:

PJR
06-15-2013, 02:31 PM
Ill take any LeBron over any Wade.

You'll take 2011 Finals LeBron over Wade? You're a fool then.

WayOfWade
06-15-2013, 02:31 PM
I'd take 06 Wade, him and 13 Lebron give you similar production but Wade had much better take over ability, I'd take 05 playoff Wade over Lebron too.

Lebron has been underwhelming in these playoffs to say the least.
Underwhelming to the tune of 25 PPG, 7 APG, 8 RPG, on 50% FG's. While these stats are great, they're all below his regular season stas, and not quite as impressive as his 2012 playoff stats of 30 PPG, 6APG, 10 RPG, 50% FG's.

K Xerxes
06-15-2013, 02:34 PM
I'd take 09, 12 and 13 LeBron over any version of Wade. No disrespect to Wade, who is a special player in his own right, but he's not at that level.

tpols
06-15-2013, 02:34 PM
Depends how they call the games

Comparing the way lebron was reffed against Indiana to how wade was reffed against Dallas..completely opposite .all those straight up plays hibbert made probably would've been flagrants instead of no calls for Wade back then. Guy got 100+ free throws in six games.

ShaqAttack3234
06-15-2013, 02:39 PM
Lebron is the better player. Better passer, defender and rebounder. Wade was as good of a scorer, imo, arguably better, and there are some advantages to having Wade instead. For example, I don't see Lebron playing as well with a post presence like even a 34 year old Shaq as Wade did. I sometimes think he's too ball-dominant to pull that off and maintain his individual dominance. Even so, I'd still go with Lebron. I'd take Lebron over peak '09 Wade as well.

WayOfWade
06-15-2013, 02:41 PM
I'd take 09, 12 and 13 LeBron over any version of Wade. No disrespect to Wade, who is a special player in his own right, but he's not at that level.
I don't know, I'd say that 09 Wade stacks up pretty well with any of LeBron's best seasons. However, LeBron has multiple seasons that can stack up to Wade's 09 season (Wade's best), so I can see your point.

ripthekik
06-15-2013, 02:49 PM
Put 13 Lebron in a team without an all star and he will lose in the playoffs. He is inconsistent, and has more bad games than other stars. This translates to losses if he does not have all-star help.

KG215
06-15-2013, 02:57 PM
Underwhelming to the tune of 25 PPG, 7 APG, 8 RPG, on 50% FG's. While these stats are great, they're all below his regular season stas, and not quite as impressive as his 2012 playoff stats of 30 PPG, 6APG, 10 RPG, 50% FG's.
Right, but for a player that was being held at such a lofty height after the regular season he had, that's nothing special in terms of other all-time (top 10-15) greats playoff runs at their peak. Not saying none of them had some bad playoff runs at their peak, but we're talking about the best of the best here, and LeBron really has been underwhelming this postseason. Also doesn't help that he doesn't really have a really memorable game or moment, yet, because he hasn't been bad or anything. Just kind of underwhelming relative to expectations for a player of his caliber.

But to answer this question, 2013 LeBron is a better player than 2006 Wade, but Wade's playoff run/performance was quite a bit better than LeBron's 2013 run. And with only a possible 3 playoff games left, there's really not anything he's going to be able to do to have as good of a playoff performance as 2006 Wade.

LongLiveTheKing
06-15-2013, 02:59 PM
Put 13 Lebron in a team without an all star and he will lose in the playoffs. He is inconsistent, and has more bad games than other stars. This translates to losses if he does not have all-star help.
You're trying to hard.



This is a tough one, I'll take Wade in the finals and Lebron anything else.

Bandito
06-15-2013, 03:03 PM
You're trying to hard.



This is a tough one, I'll take Wade in the finals and Lebron anything else.
/thread

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
06-15-2013, 03:03 PM
Even though Lebron STILL has games like that bizzare gm 3 performance (hasn't happened much since 2011; he's also bounced back pretty impressively), I'd still take him over Wade.

You take away Lebron's scoring and he would still be able to beat you. Like totally disrupt your teams game-plan. Wade, while great, just doesn't have that kind of impact.

TonyMontana
06-15-2013, 03:12 PM
Put 13 Lebron in a team without an all star and he will lose in the playoffs. He is inconsistent, and has more bad games than other stars. This translates to losses if he does not have all-star help.

Is that why LeBron had deep playoff runs every year(without an allstar) while Wade(post Shaq) couldn't get past the first round? :oldlol:

Wades 2006 Finals was legendary, but for the other 90 games of that season Shaq was still the teams MVP. He was still the best center in the league(1st Team All NBA; Wade was2nd) and the Heat struggled BIG TIME when he was out.

Miami went 42-17 (.712) with him and 10-13 (.435) without Shaq in the lineup.

LeBron has always been way better than Wade individually.

Electric Slide
06-15-2013, 03:13 PM
It was arguable if 06 Wade was even better than 06 Lebron at the time.

Frozen1
06-15-2013, 03:18 PM
Wade in his third year was dominating in the finals.

The fourth year lebron was choking in the finals and getting a pass for being too young. Took another choke and 9 years into the league to finally dominate in the finals.

Miller for 3
06-15-2013, 03:18 PM
Is this a joke? I would take 13 Wade over 13 Lebron. The Heat won games at a better percentage when Lebron didn't even dress. Wade is the heart and soul. Lebron is the flopper who travels/palms/offensive fouls his way over the court and then cries for more help

Papaya Petee
06-15-2013, 07:24 PM
Is that why LeBron had deep playoff runs every year(without an allstar) while Wade(post Shaq) couldn't get past the first round? :oldlol:

Wades 2006 Finals was legendary, but for the other 90 games of that season Shaq was still the teams MVP. He was still the best center in the league(1st Team All NBA; Wade was2nd) and the Heat struggled BIG TIME when he was out.

Miami went 42-17 (.712) with him and 10-13 (.435) without Shaq in the lineup.

LeBron has always been way better than Wade individually.
:roll: :roll: :roll: Shut up.

Wade in the regular season 27\7\6 on 49%
Shaq in the regular season 20\9\2

Wade in the playoffs 28\6\6 on 52%
Don't remember Shaq's numbers, but worse than the regular season

Wade in the finals 35\8\4 on 46%
Shaq put up 13\10

jrong
06-15-2013, 07:29 PM
It's funny how people think Wade's career does not exist outside of 06, or that it was any where close to his peak.

Peteballa
06-15-2013, 07:40 PM
06 Finals Wade > 09 Wade = 13 LeBron > 06 Wade

KG215
06-15-2013, 07:42 PM
It's funny how people think Wade's career does not exist outside of 06, or that it was any where close to his peak.
This. He was extraordinary in the 2006 playoffs/Finals, but he was at his best from 2009-2011. And in two of those years he was saddle with terrible supporting casts. It was kind of similar to Kobe peaking from 2006-2008 but only having one competent supporting cast in that time, so his success was limited.

jzek
06-15-2013, 07:46 PM
'06 Wade only if we're talking about FMVP Wade. I'd still take '13 LeBron over regular season '06 Wade.

B4llin
06-15-2013, 07:48 PM
Your stats have defeated me.


LMAO


GOAT response

SamuraiSWISH
06-15-2013, 08:00 PM
This. He was extraordinary in the 2006 playoffs/Finals, but he was at his best from 2009-2011. And in two of those years he was saddle with terrible supporting casts. It was kind of similar to Kobe peaking from 2006-2008 but only having one competent supporting cast in that time, so his success was limited.
:pimp:

Ikill
06-15-2013, 08:14 PM
I would have it like this
10 Lebron
09 Lebron
09 Wade
13 Lebron
pre injury 07 Wade
12 Lebron
11 Wade/10 Wade
06 Wade
11 Lebron

Electric Slide
06-15-2013, 08:39 PM
I would have it like this
10 Lebron
09 Lebron
09 Wade
13 Lebron
pre injury 07 Wade
12 Lebron
11 Wade/10 Wade
06 Wade
11 Lebron
2013 Lebron is clearly the best version of Lebron and it's not even close.

Young X
06-15-2013, 08:42 PM
'07 Pre-injury Wade >>>

Mr. Jabbar
06-15-2013, 09:09 PM
dwade

gengiskhan
06-15-2013, 09:38 PM
2006 opposition: MAVS. :lol :lol First time FINALIST. :lol

2013 opposition: SAS. :bowdown: :bowdown: 4-0 finals record. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

hands down 2013 LBJ.

You put 2006 Wade vs 2013 SAS, Wade will be dismantled in 2 games & turned into mediocre kobe like WITHOUT 2006 SHAQ like interior presence in MIA.

2006 MAVS were a joke of a finalist. They were never blessed with coach of Popovich's calibre.

NEXT............

Fudge
06-15-2013, 09:39 PM
'06 Wade easily.

Ikill
06-15-2013, 10:05 PM
2013 Lebron is clearly the best version of Lebron and it's not even close.
Thats your opinion

Electric Slide
06-15-2013, 10:43 PM
Thats your opinion
how is 2010 and 2009 lebron or even 2009 wade better than 2013 lebron? I guess 2010/2009 lebron make sense, but wade? none

ripthekik
06-16-2013, 01:23 AM
2006 opposition: MAVS. :lol :lol First time FINALIST. :lol

2013 opposition: SAS. :bowdown: :bowdown: 4-0 finals record. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

hands down 2013 LBJ.
.
what the hell is this guy smoking?

gengiskhan
06-16-2013, 01:28 AM
what the hell is this guy smoking?

2006 Wade is given 2006 SHAQ in the MIA paint area. hence Wade looked great.

2013 LBJ is given 2013 Haslem in the MIA paint area. :lol :lol . LBJ is winning finals with COMPLETELY PERIMETER HEAVY 2013 MIA. :bowdown: :bowdown:

If you transport 2006 Wade to 2013 line up, he will lose to SAS in 4-5 games.

2013 LBJ >>> 2006 Wade (strongly supported by 2006 Shaq)

ripthekik
06-16-2013, 01:31 AM
2006 Wade is given 2006 SHAQ in the MIA paint area. hence Wade looked great.

2013 LBJ is given 2013 Haslem in the MIA paint area. :lol :lol . LBJ is winning finals with COMPLETELY PERIMETER HEAVY 2013 MIA. :bowdown: :bowdown:

If you transport 2006 Wade to 2013 line up, he will lose to SAS in 4-5 games.

2013 LBJ >>> 2006 Wade (strongly supported by 2006 Shaq)
While Lebron has Wade and Bosh?
And so far in the finals against the great Spurs team, Lebron's only showed up in half the games?
What's his game 3 stats?
Enlighten me, did Wade even have 1 such game in the playoffs?

:confusedshrug:
:oldlol:

ripthekik
06-16-2013, 01:32 AM
Wade 06 had one of the weakest teams that decade. While Lebron 13 has one of the most stacked teams ever.

Wade 06 had to step up game after game, put in clutch shot after clutch shot. I remember games where he ISO'd the whole 4th quarter and made shots after shots. Think Lebron would be capable of that?

Dude cannot carry a team. 06 Wade would've made lebron gone 2011

gengiskhan
06-16-2013, 01:33 AM
While Lebron has Wade and Bosh?
And so far in the finals against the great Spurs team, Lebron's only showed up in half the games?
What's his game 3 stats?
Enlighten me, did Wade even have 1 such game in the playoffs?

:confusedshrug:
:oldlol:

Wade who????
Bosh who???? only softy big MIA has shooting 3 pters. :lol

Wade has been carried till game 4 of the finals the whole Post Season. :lol
LBJ rebounding his own & Bosh's. :lol :oldlol:

gimme 2006 Shaq bulk rebounding 20 rpg any day in the paint over this WNBA sissy 3 pointers attempting fool called Bosh.

Its not even a contest.

MetsPackers
06-16-2013, 02:24 AM
I'd take 09, 12 and 13 LeBron over any version of Wade. No disrespect to Wade, who is a special player in his own right, but he's not at that level.

This

All you guys picking Wade are straight up fools. Lebron just had his 4th MVP season (Wade has 0) and was 1 vote short of unanimous MVP (only other was prime Shaq). Obviously his playoffs haven't been as impressive but the question was if you are a GM who do you take; and you'd be an idiot not to take Lebron. That Heat team was awesome and was the reason I started following the Heat but they wouldn't win the title in many other seasons, unlike last years Heat lead by Lebron. Possibly even this years 27win streak Heat if Heat win and Lebron gets FMVP. People really let their hate for Lebron cloud their minds smh

Svendiggity
06-16-2013, 03:37 AM
This

All you guys picking Wade are straight up fools. Lebron just had his 4th MVP season (Wade has 0) and was 1 vote short of unanimous MVP (only other was prime Shaq). Obviously his playoffs haven't been as impressive but the question was if you are a GM who do you take; and you'd be an idiot not to take Lebron. That Heat team was awesome and was the reason I started following the Heat but they wouldn't win the title in many other seasons, unlike last years Heat lead by Lebron. Possibly even this years 27win streak Heat if Heat win and Lebron gets FMVP. People really let their hate for Lebron cloud their minds smh

No, I think quite a few GM's believe that the key piece to winning a championship is having that exceptional creative scorer. Dirk, Wade, Kobe, Bird, Mj, Hakeem. While Lebron's stats show he is an elite scorer, and he has become much more of a scoring threat than just a rim attacker and three point shooter, he still isn't as creative as those guys at scoring. Lebron needs more time and dribbles to get his 30, whereas those guys need just a few seconds with the ball. And sometimes that type of player is the most important piece when facing a great team defense.

Of coarse, you can obviously build a chamionship team around any elite top player, but one like Lebron needed a sidekick scorer, whereas one like Wade or Kobe needed a sidekick post player. It all comes down to building around the player correctly, honestly.

MetsPackers
06-16-2013, 04:05 AM
No, I think quite a few GM's believe that the key piece to winning a championship is having that exceptional creative scorer. Dirk, Wade, Kobe, Bird, Mj, Hakeem. While Lebron's stats show he is an elite scorer, and he has become much more of a scoring threat than just a rim attacker and three point shooter, he still isn't as creative as those guys at scoring. Lebron needs more time and dribbles to get his 30, whereas those guys need just a few seconds with the ball. And sometimes that type of player is the most important piece when facing a great team defense.

Of coarse, you can obviously build a chamionship team around any elite top player, but one like Lebron needed a sidekick scorer, whereas one like Wade or Kobe needed a sidekick post player. It all comes down to building around the player correctly, honestly.

:biggums:

Only on ISH is a former scoring champion not a "creative scorer". You even hear announcers say all the time that Lebron hardly ever scores the same way twice; he's always doing it from different spots, distances, and directions. Just because he uses the same efficient movements to get there does not mean he isn't a "creative scorer" in any way. You're basically just saying that these guys are better scorers because they are flashy, which is absolutely false. Lebron has never had a post player on the level of prime Shaq/Pau so there's no way of knowing how far he could have gone with one, therefore that point is basically useless. You can't use it against him when he never even had that opportunity.

Lebron's MVP years' scoring, rebounding, passing, team defense, efficiency; basically everything was superior to any version of Wade, regardless of how nice Wade made it look

Svendiggity
06-16-2013, 04:26 AM
:biggums:

Only on ISH is a former scoring champion not a "creative scorer". You even hear announcers say all the time that Lebron hardly ever scores the same way twice; he's always doing it from different spots, distances, and directions. Just because he uses the same efficient movements to get there does not mean he isn't a "creative scorer" in any way. You're basically just saying that these guys are better scorers because they are flashy, which is absolutely false. Lebron has never had a post player on the level of prime Shaq/Pau so there's no way of knowing how far he could have gone with one, therefore that point is basically useless. You can't use it against him when he never even had that opportunity.

Lebron's MVP years' scoring, rebounding, passing, team defense, efficiency; basically everything was superior to any version of Wade, regardless of how nice Wade made it look

Nothing against Lebron, but he's not better at creating shots than Prime Wade. Better player, yes. I think you missed my point. I'm not a Lebron hater if that's what you think. I'm calling it like I see it.

Guy Ledouche
06-16-2013, 04:28 AM
Is this really a serious question? 13 Lebron.

aj1987
06-16-2013, 11:41 AM
Wade during the RS: 27.2/5.7/6.7/1.9/0.8 on 49.5%
Lebron during the RS: 26.8/8/7.3/1.7/0.9 on 56.5%

Wade in the Playoffs: 28.4/5.7/5.9/2.2/1.1 on 49.7%
Lebron in the Playoffs: 25.1/8.3/6.5/1.6/0.9 on 50%

Wade also did this thing against two top 5 defensive teams (Nets and Pistons). Not sure if the Bulls were a top 5 defensive team, but they were also pretty good defensively.

Peteballa
06-16-2013, 11:46 AM
This

All you guys picking Wade are straight up fools. Lebron just had his 4th MVP season (Wade has 0) and was 1 vote short of unanimous MVP (only other was prime Shaq). Obviously his playoffs haven't been as impressive but the question was if you are a GM who do you take; and you'd be an idiot not to take Lebron. That Heat team was awesome and was the reason I started following the Heat but they wouldn't win the title in many other seasons, unlike last years Heat lead by Lebron. Possibly even this years 27win streak Heat if Heat win and Lebron gets FMVP. People really let their hate for Lebron cloud their minds smh

In my opinion Wade should have been MVP the 08-09 season. He was on a completely different level that year, on par with LeBron during the 12-13 regular season. I will never forget him scoring 55 against the Knicks, or double overtime GW vs the Bulls... What a season.

gengiskhan
06-16-2013, 11:46 AM
Wade during the RS: 27.2/5.7/6.7/1.9/0.8 on 49.5%
Lebron during the RS: 26.8/8/7.3/1.7/0.9 on 56.5%

Wade in the Playoffs: 28.4/5.7/5.9/2.2/1.1 on 49.7%
Lebron in the Playoffs: 25.1/8.3/6.5/1.6/0.9 on 50%

Wade also did this thing against two top 5 defensive teams (Nets and Pistons). Not sure if the Bulls were a top 5 defensive team, but they were also pretty good defensively.

Wade had SHAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a force in the PAINT! & a 3 time champ himself.

LBJ has BOSH. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol who cannot rebound & sits on 3 point line for measured spot up 3 pointers for PF.

aj1987
06-16-2013, 11:58 AM
Wade had SHAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a force in the PAINT! & a 3 time champ himself.

LBJ has BOSH. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol who cannot rebound & sits on 3 point line for measured spot up 3 pointers for PF.
Wade had a post prime Shaq. Shaq averaged 13/10 in the Finals. Lebron has Wade and Bosh. 22/5/5 on 52% from Wade and 17/7 on 53% from Bosh. Who did Wade even have outside of Shaq? Antoine "chucking" Walker? A washed Gary Payton? A washed up Mourning? Watch the Finals. Shaq didn't do shit against the Mavs, who were a horrible defensive team.

tpols
06-16-2013, 12:00 PM
Wade had SHAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a force in the PAINT! & a 3 time champ himself.

LBJ has BOSH. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol who cannot rebound & sits on 3 point line for measured spot up 3 pointers for PF.
Spos game plan against Indy and over the past year really has been to put bosh away from the paint to clear driving lanes for lebron and wade:oldlol:

Put Shaq down low and the paint is clogged even more leaving you to rely on lebrons terrible in between game..dude has no floater and no touch..scared of the midrange..he would be way worse off.

gengiskhan
06-16-2013, 12:01 PM
Wade had a post prime Shaq. Shaq averaged 13/10 in the Finals. Lebron has Wade and Bosh. 22/5/5 on 52% from Wade and 17/7 on 53% from Bosh. Who did Wade even have outside of Shaq? Antoine "chucking" Walker? A washed Gary Payton? A washed up Mourning? Watch the Finals. Shaq didn't do shit against the Mavs, who were a horrible defensive team.

I'll take Post Prime Shaq & Mourning combo any day over trash called BOSH!!

Atleast they command DOUBLE TRIPLE teams leaving LBJ open to do anything.

Wade had both.

LBJ's MIA team is PURE PERIMETER team like MJ's CHI.

winning rings with WEAK rebounding is impossible.

MJ did it. LBJ is doing it now.

aj1987
06-16-2013, 12:07 PM
Atleast they command DOUBLE TRIPLE teams leaving LBJ open to do anything.

I don't know what the hell you were watching, but Shaq and Mourning did not command double, let alone triple teams. Why the hell would teams double/triple team a washed up, post surgery Mourning?

BTW, didn't Lebron have Shaq on his team as well? What happened that year?

nashwade
06-16-2013, 12:10 PM
I thought you meant in the finals...which would have been rather obvious.

Bron has not and unlikely to ever do anything more impressive than Wades game 3:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rmkuShjCQs

That was the title pretty much. You cant go down 0-3. down 13 late....he goes off. And people forget that he also blocked the lob to Howard that would have sent it to OT.

Lebron has played better than he was in that game. But not in a situation like that. In the ECF he has. But not in the finals.

I miss that Wade. The Skinny Wade

K Xerxes
06-16-2013, 12:13 PM
I don't know why Wade has become so stupidly overrated, but in the '06 finals, the Mavs focused on Shaq a lot and I recall them double teaming him too. I can't remember when exactly they realised 'oh shit, Wade is torching us', but the strategy wasn't to focus on Wade for a lot of the time.

06 Wade was good, but he isn't close to prime LeBron. 09 Wade is his peak, and he was a really really special player then.

Electric Slide
06-16-2013, 12:30 PM
I don't know why Wade has become so stupidly overrated, but in the '06 finals, the Mavs focused on Shaq a lot and I recall them double teaming him too. I can't remember when exactly they realised 'oh shit, Wade is torching us', but the strategy wasn't to focus on Wade for a lot of the time.

06 Wade was good, but he isn't close to prime LeBron. 09 Wade is his peak, and he was a really really special player then.
People are praising Wade because he is being compared to Lebron. Compare him to Kobe and all the people praising Wade will be hating him in no time.

HiphopRelated
06-16-2013, 12:38 PM
Wade is the best Finals performer of his generation

K Xerxes
06-16-2013, 12:42 PM
People are praising Wade because he is being compared to Lebron. Compare him to Kobe and all the people praising Wade will be hating him in no time.

I think it's more insidious than that... Kobe stans especially are praising Wade because he's LeBron's team mate, and propping up Wade diminishes LeBron's achievements somehow.

Of course, if you turn it right back around and compare him to Kobe, they'll be in arms about how Wade is incomparable.

LBJ 23
06-16-2013, 01:03 PM
People are praising Wade because he is being compared to Lebron. Compare him to Kobe and all the people praising Wade will be hating him in no time.


excatly

Bandito
06-16-2013, 01:05 PM
I'll take Post Prime Shaq & Mourning combo any day over trash called BOSH!!

Atleast they command DOUBLE TRIPLE teams leaving LBJ open to do anything.

Wade had both.

LBJ's MIA team is PURE PERIMETER team like MJ's CHI.

winning rings with WEAK rebounding is impossible.

MJ did it. LBJ is doing it now.
How are they going to command double triple teams when they don't get the ball due to Lebron's ball hogging. What you fail to understand is that both Shaq and ZO needed the ball to make post moves and dunk it, but Lebron cannot play off ball that good, or have a reliable shot that could make it if he's open. And the reason they play Bosh on the perimeter if you haven't noticed is so that Lebron and Wade can slash to the basket. With Shaq or Zo there Lebron wouldn't be able to do that and Lebron plays better slashing to the basket.

GrapeApe
06-16-2013, 01:19 PM
Wade is unfortunate in a way because he's played in the shadow of Kobe and LeBron his entire career. Those guys happen to be top 10 all time players (LeBron likely will be), but from '05-'11 (minus injured '08) Wade was right there in the conversation as the best perimeter player in the league. Wade is a top 20-25 player and all time great in his own right, but he's been overshadowed by two players who are just a little greater.