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L8krH8tr
02-17-2013, 12:24 AM
No one has topped Vince carter yet, I don't see it happening soon

kennethgriffin
02-17-2013, 12:26 AM
ya he had the biggest pop ever from a crowd

dont really understand the jordan stans


jordan was the original james white... did the same dunk like 5 times

3 dunk contests with the same main dunk from the ft line?

sh*ts weak

never even did a 360 in a game or contest? wow

brandonislegend
02-17-2013, 12:26 AM
No one has topped Vince carter yet, I don't see it happening soon

No one will, he is the best dunker ever his body control in the air = :bowdown:

rknine15
02-17-2013, 12:28 AM
Best in game dunker ever

KOBE143
02-17-2013, 12:29 AM
Yeah, Vince was the best in dunk contest

Vince, Kobe, MJ, Nique, Kemp were the best in game..

tikay0
02-17-2013, 12:30 AM
Nothing tops Vinsanity. Those were some of the greatest All Star weekend memories for me.

Even that rookie game that year was amazing. Jason Williams elbow pass had the whole house jumping.

MichaelCheazley
02-17-2013, 12:35 AM
Personally like Jrich more.

JoshCoward
02-17-2013, 12:35 AM
2000 All star was the best. The dunk contest, rookie game, the all-star game were all buzzing. Shaq, Kobe, Vince, AI, KG, Duncan, Kidd, Webber, Malone, Payton, Stockton etc. with T-Mac, Steve Franchise in the dunk contest... damn miss those days

DropStep
02-17-2013, 12:35 AM
That entire contest was amazing. Steve Francis, Tmac and even Jerry Stackhouse killed it.

But I think J-Rich was the best dunk contest dunker ever. He may not of had the hype but his dunks were much more difficult than VC.

Noyze
02-17-2013, 12:35 AM
Just to put it in perspective, JRich did a great job. He had some amazing dunks and if he did that recently then people would get excited and declare the dunk contest "back." But he did it a year or 2 after Vince and all i remember hearing is how bad the contest was now.

In essence Vince killed the contest. I was watching it live with a few of my friends from high school and the main thing I remember was it took 15 mins for them to do get to the next guy after Vince's first dunk. Cause the crowd and celebs were going crazy, people were running on the court.

Beatlezz
02-17-2013, 12:36 AM
This guy topped him in my book. :applause:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PRksuAaoT4&feature=player_detailpage#t=676s

Noob Saibot
02-17-2013, 12:41 AM
looks like it will be another 5 or 10 years before the next great dunker owns the NBA airways, both on and off the court, because that's what Vince Carter was back in the 2000s.

jerky10
02-17-2013, 12:50 AM
jrich did but only him

Ramiah
02-17-2013, 12:59 AM
Da GOAT

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/1064203_o.gif

http://i.imgur.com/H5e17By.gif


http://i.imgur.com/Uh8ARsC.gif

#number6ix#
02-17-2013, 01:00 AM
I swear Vince carter dunk contest is overrated I watched it again the other day...

He was half through the 360 reverse windmill before he left the floor
His second dunk was the same as the first but from a different angle
His between the leg dunk (his best dunk) had been done before
The dunk where put his arm in the rim is his most creative dunk
Then he did a regular two hand dunk at the end

Javale McGee had some dunks that were better than Vince Carter's

tikay0
02-17-2013, 01:20 AM
I swear Vince carter dunk contest is overrated I watched it again the other day...

He was half through the 360 reverse windmill before he left the floor
His second dunk was the same as the first but from a different angle
His between the leg dunk (his best dunk) had been done before
The dunk where put his arm in the rim is his most creative dunk
Then he did a regular two hand dunk at the end

Javale McGee had some dunks that were better than Vince Carter's

:facepalm

Rake2204
02-17-2013, 01:23 AM
I swear Vince carter dunk contest is overrated I watched it again the other day...

He was half through the 360 reverse windmill before he left the floor
His second dunk was the same as the first but from a different angle
His between the leg dunk (his best dunk) had been done before
The dunk where put his arm in the rim is his most creative dunk
Then he did a regular two hand dunk at the end

Javale McGee had some dunks that were better than Vince Carter'sNot to be that guy but one must set their feet away from the basket on any 360 attempt. That's how the twist actually occurs. I say give it a shot in your living room. See where your feet are when you prepare your spin jump.

I agree his second dunk was a bit of a repeat. But to be honest, we were all still so buzzed over the first dunk that no one was bothered with seeing it again from a slightly different angle. It felt more like repeated greatness at the time than it did someone just doing the same dunk twice.

No one had ever thrown down a between-the-legs dunk off the bounce, nor off two feet. And it was spectacularly finished to boot.

I liked the elbow dunk too. Incredible at the time. I still love watching it.

Vince was upset with the final jam. It was supposed to be a two-hand dunk from the free throw line and he admitted he was upset with his steps on that one. Still, it was the cherry on top of a wonderful night. It was the furthest anyone had taken off of while finishing with two hands in a contest (until tonight).

The greatness of Carter's contest lies in the spectacular. Each of his dunks had never been executed before (even including the 14'8'' two hand dunk). Sounds silly now, but the between the legs dunk was so rare at that point that no one really thought it was something a player would be able to convert while having the rock passed to him in mid-flight. And the elbow dunk, as we acknowledged, blew everyone's mind.

The cherry on top? He didn't miss a single dunk. And, as we can all probably attest after tonight, that can make a huge difference.

LBJFTW
02-17-2013, 01:35 AM
This needs to be done in the dunk contest but as a true 720.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Cg7w_8kkU

Grey Dawn
02-17-2013, 01:36 AM
:facepalm

Even though they are decent dunks, no doubting that there is a degree to which the Vince dc is overrated/hyped. Part of the whole thing as severalosters mentioned is the crowd response that makes it seem so crazy. So that 'atmosphere' makes it seem better than it is.

eric89
02-17-2013, 01:37 AM
too bad he couldn't do it tonight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ilhwb_PFZts

Grey Dawn
02-17-2013, 01:38 AM
Not to be that guy but one must set their feet away from the basket on any 360 attempt. That's how the twist actually occurs. I say give it a shot in your living room. See where your feet are when you prepare your spin jump.

I agree his second dunk was a bit of a repeat. But to be honest, we were all still so buzzed over the first dunk that no one was bothered with seeing it again from a slightly different angle. It felt more like repeated greatness at the time than it did someone just doing the same dunk twice.

No one had ever thrown down a between-the-legs dunk off the bounce, nor off two feet. And it was spectacularly finished to boot.

I liked the elbow dunk too. Incredible at the time. I still love watching it.

Vince was upset with the final jam. It was supposed to be a two-hand dunk from the free throw line and he admitted he was upset with his steps on that one. Still, it was the cherry on top of a wonderful night. It was the furthest anyone had taken off of while finishing with two hands in a contest (until tonight).

The greatness of Carter's contest lies in the spectacular. Each of his dunks had never been executed before (even including the 14'8'' two hand dunk). Sounds silly now, but the between the legs dunk was so rare at that point that no one really thought it was something a player would be able to convert while having the rock passed to him in mid-flight. And the elbow dunk, as we acknowledged, blew everyone's mind.

The cherry on top? He didn't miss a single dunk. And, as we can all probably attest after tonight, that can make a huge difference.

So, but you're saying that lots of people can do dunks better than his now.

eliteballer
02-17-2013, 01:38 AM
Jason Richardson.

tmacattack33
02-17-2013, 01:42 AM
I swear Vince carter dunk contest is overrated I watched it again the other day...

He was half through the 360 reverse windmill before he left the floor
His second dunk was the same as the first but from a different angle
His between the leg dunk (his best dunk) had been done before
The dunk where put his arm in the rim is his most creative dunk
Then he did a regular two hand dunk at the end

Javale McGee had some dunks that were better than Vince Carter's

Yeah, but he also ended up looking in that same direction...ie he didn't land with his feet facing the rim that he was dunking on, by the time he hit the ground he had properly done a whole 360 turn (well, maybe 320).

kennethgriffin
02-17-2013, 01:47 AM
I swear Vince carter dunk contest is overrated I watched it again the other day...

He was half through the 360 reverse windmill before he left the floor
His second dunk was the same as the first but from a different angle
His between the leg dunk (his best dunk) had been done before
The dunk where put his arm in the rim is his most creative dunk
Then he did a regular two hand dunk at the end

Javale McGee had some dunks that were better than Vince Carter's


you must not have seen it live

you're probably 15 years old and watched it for the first time on youtube a few years ago while comparing jrichs between the legs to vinces


truth is vinces dunks wouldnt be as exciting in todays nba now after we've seen everything and have nothing to blow our minds anymore after seeing 720s/360 between the legs and between the leg free throw dunks

but at the time.....


vinces dunks....


were the most ground breaking and jaw dropping for the moment...

just hear the crowd. nothing ever matched that reaction

Rake2204
02-17-2013, 02:03 AM
vinces dunks....


were the most ground breaking and jaw dropping for the moment...

just hear the crowd. nothing ever matched that reactionThat's the long and short of it. It was an experience and unfortunately for those who were not able to live through it firsthand, the effect may be lost as the years wear on. Flawless.

LBJFTW
02-17-2013, 02:03 AM
Last I checked, no one else has ever jumped over a 7'1 player in a game and dunked. That's IN GAME, so it's no shocker that VC is the best dunker to ever put one down in the dunk contest.

And 1
02-17-2013, 02:15 AM
Jason Richardson had the best dunk contest dunks.
Vince Carter is the better dunker.
IMO

tikay0
02-17-2013, 02:16 AM
you must not have seen it live

you're probably 15 years old and watched it for the first time on youtube a few years ago while comparing jrichs between the legs to vinces


truth is vinces dunks wouldnt be as exciting in todays nba now after we've seen everything and have nothing to blow our minds anymore after seeing 720s/360 between the legs and between the leg free throw dunks

but at the time.....


vinces dunks....


were the most ground breaking and jaw dropping for the moment...

just hear the crowd. nothing ever matched that reaction

Precisely. If you didn't witness it live, you just don't know......

The bounce pass, through the legs was AMAZING, still is today.

You guys are also forgetting the style factor. When he would wind up for a dunk, he had his arms stretched out like he was palming a nerf ball.

And as you mentioned, he actually executed the dunks on his first try. That's HUGE.

Sham
02-17-2013, 02:24 AM
Agree....the 2000 dunk contest is the GOAT and obviously Vince is the GOAT dunker the league has ever seen.

What people don't remember about the 2000 dunk contest was that it was a SHOW! Steve Francis and T-Mac also stepped it up.....both had dunks that would have won it any other year. Ya everyone remembers Vince but if you watch the whole thing again, it was a good show.

#number6ix#
02-17-2013, 04:08 AM
:wtf:
you must not have seen it live

you're probably 15 years old and watched it for the first time on youtube a few years ago while comparing jrichs between the legs to vinces


truth is vinces dunks wouldnt be as exciting in todays nba now after we've seen everything and have nothing to blow our minds anymore after seeing 720s/360 between the legs and between the leg free throw dunks

but at the time.....


vinces dunks....


were the most ground breaking and jaw dropping for the moment...

just hear the crowd. nothing ever matched that reaction

Actually I'm 25 and I did see it live. I'm speaking on the dunks he performed more so than how hype the crowd was.

tikay0
02-17-2013, 04:11 AM
:wtf:

Actually I'm 25 and I did see it live. I'm speaking on the dunks he performed more so than how hype the crowd was.

Name an NBA player that could make those dunks, look like THIS.

http://www.sameyeam.com/data/photos/186_1carter_sdc.jpg

ON THEIR FIRST TRY.

Clippersfan86
02-17-2013, 04:17 AM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sExhvrQ720o/UOYr1B-vANI/AAAAAAADabE/DSfb7jGN18A/s1600/cat_memes_05.jpg

#number6ix#
02-17-2013, 04:22 AM
Kenny sky Walker had some sick dunks that were comparable to Vince Carter's... I'm not trying to shit on Vince or anything like that but just cuz the crowd was hyped doesn't mean his dunks was the greatest ever

sick_brah07
02-17-2013, 04:23 AM
For me personally you can't top vinces, something about the attitude, cockiness, power, grace, body control and showmanship was amazing to watch .... The fact the whole nba was like "oh my ****ing god" was amazing and the fact I have never seen anybody do better looking windmills and throw the leg dunks

With Jason richardson it was a little different something about his flair wasn't quite there. I still think he had the highest degree of difficulty of dunks in all contests although it was something about his showmanship that wasnt quite there just something that didn't seem as great as Vince carter I dunno if it was the crowd or the expectations or his body control or lack of cockiness I just dunno it didn't feel the same.

A lot of people forget about josh smith in 05 that contest aside from Birdman was great.... The Wilkins jersey before everyone started with the bullshit props, not missing a thousand dunks, cockiness , power, originality josh smith was great and with out a doubt the worth winner, although Steve Nash almost stole the show with soccer skills

sick_brah07
02-17-2013, 04:27 AM
Name an NBA player that could make those dunks, look like THIS.

http://www.sameyeam.com/data/photos/186_1carter_sdc.jpg

ON THEIR FIRST TRY.

That's the thing Vince made it look like it was just a shoot around practice

#number6ix#
02-17-2013, 04:41 AM
Jason Richardson reverse between the leg dunk off the bounce was better than anything Vince did Jason Richardson off the backboard between the leg dunk was better than anything Vince did. Javale McGee dunk on the two baskets had never been done by anyone javale McGee dunking 3 balls had never been done

nashwade
02-17-2013, 10:44 AM
he missed the between-the-legs on the first try

power sums it up

VeeCee15
02-17-2013, 10:48 AM
VC = 1 dunk contest

JRich = 3 dunk contests.

So basically...VC > jrich. It took jrich 3 dunk contests and VC as a precedent to do what he did..also VC is just a better dunker than jrich better form and vertical.

Rake2204
02-17-2013, 10:53 AM
Jason Richardson reverse between the leg dunk off the bounce was better than anything Vince did Jason Richardson off the backboard between the leg dunk was better than anything Vince did. Javale McGee dunk on the two baskets had never been done by anyone javale McGee dunking 3 balls had never been doneI believe you're leaving many pieces out of the equation. Dunking (dunking in a dunk contest in particular) is not just about which dunk you technically make. For instance, I make one handed dunks all the time, but that doesn't mean they're as great as any of LeBron James' one hand jams. Basically, it's just as much about how a player dunks as it is what dunk he's technically performing.

In Vince Carter's case, he wasn't just introducing new ways of dunking to the general public, he was doing so with absolute peerless style and grace. Further, as mentioned, every piece of shock value was maximized because he made each of his slams on his first attempt. The entirety of a performance can play a very important role in a dunking legacy.

I think Carter had the best of both worlds: some incredible dunks we'd never seen before performed with that aforementioned peerless style grace and ability (cuff windmill clockwise 360, elbow, going between the legs while having the ball passed in midair by teammate) and a 99.9% intent and success rate (one small nick for stepping over the free throw line).

Regarding the dunks mentioned, in comparison to Carter's slams, I do not believe Richardson's bounce between-the-legs dunk is better than anything Carter's done. Watching that Richardson dunk live was great and I still enjoy it. I was very excited and I thought it was awesome to see and whatnot, but I thought the style was a little jacked up. I mean, it's still one of my favorites, but I found that dunk to be an example of a great technical dunk that was lacking a little in the aesthetic appeal. His limbs were kind of all over the place and the ball went down a little weird (with a funky rim grab to boot). To compare to Richardson's own body of work, the between the legs reverse may have been a technically more difficult dunk, but I think his bounce reverse winner the year before ('02) had much, much more style, power and grace.

I think the backboard between-the-legs can be in the discussion as the best dunk in dunk contest history. I wouldn't flat out say it's better than anything Carter did (I believe Carter's first jam is close to perfect) but I agree there's a chance Richardson's counter could be up there. The reason Carter's performance ends up being more memorable though, again, his contest was a perfect performance. He didn't, for example, attempt the elbow dunk and fail eight times, removing every single piece of suspense.

Regarding McGee, I liked his dunk contest dunks, but his performance struggled a little bit. Once again, anyone who spends half the contest failing their dunk attempts is going to really struggle to make their way into dunk contest folklore. On top of that, it's still not just about doing something that technically hasn't been done before, it's how you do it. Jeremy Evans dunked while wearing a head camera last year. No one's ever done that, but it didn't make the dunk any less lame (extreme example). McGee did a fine job, but doing something that hasn't been done doesn't automatically qualify a player for a legendary performance. It's just one piece of the pie.

Richardson's my second favorite dunk contest performer over the last 15 years. It sounds like I was knocking on him earlier but I want to be clear that I loved everything he brought to the contest. I was just trying to illustrate why Carter's efforts tend to be remembered on a slightly different plane. He entered the contest one time, with a very large amount of hype, and he turned in a contest that was about as perfect as we'd ever seen. Every single dunk was new, they had impeccable style and he made them all on his first attempt. The only dunk that was kind of a copy? His second dunk, where he more or less copied himself on a dunk he revealed to the world just moments earlier, but added the twist of beginning behind the hoop with a very small run-up.

Cowboy Thunder
02-17-2013, 11:24 AM
http://www.thelostogle.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/desmond-mason.jpg

http://dunkcontest.free.fr/public/blowup-images/.Desmond-Mason-NBA-Dunk-Contest-2001_m.jpg


http://megaouaoua.canalblog.com/desmond_mason3.jpg


http://dunkcontest.free.fr/public/blowup-images/.Desmond-Mason-NBA-Dunk-Contest-2003_m.jpg

goat:applause: :applause:

Burgz V2
02-17-2013, 11:37 AM
people need to shut up about being VC' 2000 dunk contest performance being overrated.

guess what? he did all those dunks with no retry. DIDNT MISS ONCE. You only were allowed ONE replacement dunk in each round. Knowing that he tried a lot of difficult dunks and not only nailed them he damn near tore the rim off.

if VC had done those dunks in last nights dunk contest he still would have won. The only contest he might not have had some competition is 2004.

VC was an originator. Of course there are more creative dunks now, but he did these dunks 13 years ago. Dunks like his were never done before (save the last one, and the elbow dunk, but nobody knew that Kobe did it first at the time, there was no YouTube) I guess many of the posters here dont remember because they werent born or were like 3 years old :lol

VC is the GOAT dunker.

/thread

Rake2204
05-01-2013, 05:28 PM
I was watching it live with a few of my friends from high school and the main thing I remember was it took 15 mins for them to do get to the next guy after Vince's first dunk. Cause the crowd and celebs were going crazy, people were running on the court.Hah, yeah... Jerry Stackhouse was that next guy. Such a bad set of circumstances for him that night, having to follow up VC then performing some of the lamest dunks of the competition to top it off. He did a great job of silencing the crowd. I remember a low rising 360 and another where he got a huge run up and had everyone thinking he was going to take off from the free throw line, then ended up jumping from like, 12 feet away for a normal dunk.

iDunk
05-01-2013, 05:35 PM
Favorite player of all time.

I don't think there will ever be a player like Vince again unless Terrence Ross suddenly inherits all his skills. Just so smooth & graceful, from his jumpshot to his layups & dunks.

Finish your career in NY Vince! Next season we could be the Nets that never where: Kidd, Martin, Carter.

rknine15
05-01-2013, 06:00 PM
Favorite player of all time.

I don't think there will ever be a player like Vince again unless Terrence Ross suddenly inherits all his skills. Just so smooth & graceful, from his jumpshot to his layups & dunks.

Finish your career in NY Vince! Next season we could be the Nets that never where: Kidd, Martin, Carter.
I want him in Miami so he can get a ring..... if not miami that would be sick

Legends66NBA7
05-01-2013, 06:17 PM
Finish your career in NY Vince! Next season we could be the Nets that never where: Kidd, Martin, Carter.

They need to add Richard Jefferson too.

Orlando Magic
05-01-2013, 06:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iepcgEstIyg

^ best dunk contest dunk ever

jzek
05-01-2013, 06:37 PM
How can anyone pick a better dunker than Vince? I mean, what are the arguments? Vince has it all - style, finesse, grace, power, athleticism, agility, everything! :confusedshrug:

Orlando Magic
05-01-2013, 06:49 PM
How can anyone pick a better dunker than Vince? I mean, what are the arguments? Vince has it all - style, finesse, grace, power, athleticism, agility, everything! :confusedshrug:

In game, Vince Carter is absolutely #1 all time.

Dunk contest? Jason Richardson.

Burgz V2
05-01-2013, 10:15 PM
In game, Vince Carter is absolutely #1 all time.

Dunk contest? Jason Richardson.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

that's a good one.

Rake2204
05-01-2013, 10:39 PM
They need to add Richard Jefferson too.And Brian Scalabrine.

AintNoSunshine
05-01-2013, 10:44 PM
Especially not in the dunk contest. That combination of power and grace and creativity will never be topped.