View Full Version : Incredibly Rare Footage of Jordan's Shot Against Cavs
AngelEyes
02-16-2013, 02:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbLEoLfiAPc
I've never seen this angle of Jordan's shot before. Amazing.
they dont make arenas like they used to with great acoustics. :(
great crowd noise. very nostalgic
plowking
02-16-2013, 03:00 AM
For all the harping old school fans do about hand checking... did anyone see any of the defenders using the hand check?
shadow
02-16-2013, 03:09 AM
Man Ehlo was pretty damn clutch.
andgar923
02-16-2013, 03:19 AM
He looks pissed.
keepinitreal
02-16-2013, 03:23 AM
Great video, thanks for posting
andgar923
02-16-2013, 03:28 AM
For all the harping old school fans do about hand checking... did anyone see any of the defenders using the hand check?
MJ catches the ball at 0:06 Ehlo tries to hand check but he's outta position, MJ blows by him.
0:32 Mj catches, Ehlo tries to check him is somewhat successful (MJ slaps his hand) redirects MJ to where his help is. Handcheck in that instance allowed Ehlo to remain in the play and actually forced MJ towards the help. Same possession MJ is doubled to the 3pt line, he drives at the 0:38 mark Ehlo hand checks once again, but he's outta position since he's running towards MJ, yet manages to slow him down with the hand check (MJ dishes for the assist).
That was just in that small clip. In both instances a slight hand check were enough to either slow down, re-direct, or stop MJ. This by a slower, weaker player. As we saw, the hand check while it didn't fully stop him all the time, it was enough to re-direct him towards the help, it was enough to keep the defender in front of him. But more importantly, he didn't get hit with a foul. Imagine if those were called? Now it's the 1st quarter and he does that in the beginning of the game, they call the fouls immediately. How are you gonna defend him now?
plowking
02-16-2013, 03:34 AM
MJ catches the ball at 0:06 Ehlo tries to hand check but he's outta position, MJ blows by him.
0:32 Mj catches, Ehlo tries to check him is somewhat successful (MJ slaps his hand) redirects MJ to where his help is. Handcheck in that instance allowed Ehlo to remain in the play and actually forced MJ towards the help. Same possession MJ is doubled to the 3pt line, he drives at the 0:38 mark Ehlo hand checks once again, but he's outta position since he's running towards MJ, yet manages to slow him down with the hand check (MJ dishes for the assist).
That was just in that small clip. In both instances a slight hand check were enough to either slow down, re-direct, or stop MJ. This by a slower, weaker player. As we saw, the hand check while it didn't fully stop him all the time, it was enough to re-direct him towards the help, it was enough to keep the defender in front of him. But more importantly, he didn't get hit with a foul. Imagine if those were called? Now it's the 1st quarter and he does that in the beginning of the game, they call the fouls immediately. How are you gonna defend him now?
I'm talking hand check in the sense that a lot of ignorant, unreasonable old heads talk about it. You'd think it was some wall of impenetrable material that prevented anyone from driving into the key. :oldlol:
It was something I've always brought up. Its simply used as a redirecting method of defense, and its still as active today. You can't use it to push other players or hold them as many suggest. The whole soft image the league gets now is because technical and unsportsmanlike fouls are called more often. And for good reason; we don't want players injured.
andgar923
02-16-2013, 03:43 AM
I'm talking hand check in the sense that a lot of ignorant, unreasonable old heads talk about it. You'd think it was some wall of impenetrable material that prevented anyone from driving into the key. :oldlol:
It was something I've always brought up. Its simply used as a redirecting method of defense, and its still as active today. You can't use it to push other players or hold them as many suggest. The whole soft image the league gets now is because technical and unsportsmanlike fouls are called more often. And for good reason; we don't want players injured.
I've always stated that a hand check won't stop you 100% of the time. But there is times in which it does stop you. If a player has an angle and can hand check you it throws you off if he knows how to use it. It does mess up your dribble, it does give them tremendous advantage. Which is a major reason why players back then dribbled with their back to the defender. Not that they couldn't dribble facing the defender, it was because it was hard for them to dribble when a player is hand checking and pushing them.
Today a player can put a hand on you, but they can't stop you from advancing. So if you have the ball and you're holding it, I can rest it on your hip. But as soon as you make a move towards the basket, I have to remove it or I'll get called with a foul.
Now remember, that was just a small clip that you saw. And Ehlo was out of position for most of those plays that you saw. Yet he managed to be effective defensively and stay in the play. Now imagine an entire game, there's gonna be instances in which MJ blows by him, there's gonna be times when Ehlo stops him. But for the most part, it allows Ehlo to be out of foul trouble and be in the play defensively, which alone is more than what today's players are allowed to do.
I've actually seen hand checking get missed by refs in today's era. And it's been effective in almost every instance to some degree. Naturally, it isn't to the same degree as it once was.
There's other vids online that clearly show MJ being completely stopped with a hand check.
bdreason
02-16-2013, 03:43 AM
Ehlo was a really good player. That entire Cavs team is underrated and overlooked.
bdreason
02-16-2013, 03:44 AM
Also, if you want to be like the GOAT, listen to this before games.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWwUcytu5Tk
AngelEyes
02-16-2013, 04:09 AM
Loved the reporter running up to Michael trying to get the first interview after the shot only to be shutdown by CBS.
KG215
02-16-2013, 04:11 AM
That was really, really neat. Had floor level seats for the shot and got to an up-close first person view of running out on the court and up to Jordan for the celebration. Is there more footage like that out there of Jordan and/or other players after hitting a game winning buzzer beater?
That reporter that was spazzing out trying to Jordan was killing me. Kinda felt bad for him. When he finally was able to make his way to MJ, the CBS crew and reporter pushed him out of the way.
The Iron Fist
02-16-2013, 05:59 AM
Dope!:applause:
RoseCity07
02-16-2013, 06:20 AM
There's something really charming about young Michael Jordan. The guy is so young and genuine. Now he's an idiot bum that only cares about himself. Money and time haven't done him any favors.
KOBE143
02-16-2013, 06:41 AM
Great footage for a weak defense era.. :applause:
Holy Random
02-16-2013, 06:44 AM
Wow that really was awesome to watch, thanks for sharing.
webberz0044
02-16-2013, 07:43 AM
Ehlo was a really good player. That entire Cavs team is underrated and overlooked.
It's unfortunate that one of the best games of his career will always be overshadowed by Jordan hitting the game winner in his face.
diamenz
02-16-2013, 08:10 AM
Great footage for a weak defense era.. :applause:
only a child would troll a thread where everyone is just enjoying themselves. it's people like you that earn no credibility and your statement deserves no merit. you make defenders of today's game look bad. grow up.
awesome footage, and thanks to the owner for not being an egotistical jackass and degrading the quality. the source footage must be worth some serious loot.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
02-16-2013, 10:10 AM
The video is private ...
Knoe Itawl
02-16-2013, 10:19 AM
The video is private ...
This
ProfessorMurder
02-16-2013, 11:45 AM
The video is private ...
Knew I should've ripped it last night. :facepalm At least I got to see it.
sixer6ad
02-16-2013, 12:09 PM
I would love to see it, but I don't have a login.
I was at the game -- in college then. Tickets for the next series were going on sale Monday morning, and my buddies and I were literally drawing names to see who would be sleeping at the Coliseum to buy them. And then...the shot.
Any chance this video can be made public? Dying to see it.
sportsfan76
02-16-2013, 12:51 PM
I'm confident if he missed that shot, there would be no Bulls dynasty
Young X
02-16-2013, 12:52 PM
GOAT :bowdown:
TheAesirsFinest
02-16-2013, 01:33 PM
Is this it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbLEoLfiAPc
Stunstyle
02-16-2013, 01:39 PM
Yeah, that's the one, nice find.
sportsfan76
02-16-2013, 01:48 PM
MJ should have never gotten the ball, that falls back on the coach
dirkdiggler41
02-16-2013, 01:55 PM
OP, please change edit your post so people dont have to search for the video. Link is dead
Here is the footage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbLEoLfiAPc
Shade8780
02-16-2013, 02:03 PM
OP, please change edit your post so people dont have to search for the video. Link is dead
Here is the footage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbLEoLfiAPc
Damn... that was pretty cool! MJ :bowdown:
Shade8780
02-16-2013, 02:04 PM
LET'S GO CHUCK, LET'S GO!!! :lol
Knicksfever2010
02-16-2013, 02:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g2z1dLzTcM
I've never seen this angle of Jordan's shot before. Amazing.
it says this video is private :(
jstern
02-16-2013, 02:32 PM
Why is the video private now?
jstern
02-16-2013, 02:43 PM
What Jordan says here has been the biggest complaint about Kobe's game before he started sharing the ball. Jordan is very smart. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbLEoLfiAPc&feature=player_detailpage#t=249s Great thing also about the video is getting to see other people interviewing him, and how difficult it is to get to the locker room.
AngelEyes
02-16-2013, 04:28 PM
it says this video is private :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbLEoLfiAPc
Follow this link now. The first guy who put up the video made it private for some ****ing reason.
Rake2204
02-16-2013, 05:05 PM
That was awesome.
KG215
02-16-2013, 05:08 PM
I'm confident if he missed that shot, there would be no Bulls dynasty
:confusedshrug:
But he did, and there was. And besides, they still got through the Knicks and to the ECF that year and took the eventual champs to 6 games. And that was before Pippen or Grant had really emerged.
MJ should have never gotten the ball, that falls back on the coach
To be honest, you sorta just sound bitter and mad because of the Jordan/Bulls dynasty.
eurobum
02-16-2013, 05:18 PM
Great video. Thank you for posting.
DA GAWD.
KG215
02-16-2013, 05:25 PM
"Michael! Michael!...you stuck it baby!!"
"Yeah!"
"Yeah!"
I don't know why, but that little exchange kills me.
ILLsmak
02-16-2013, 05:26 PM
I'm talking hand check in the sense that a lot of ignorant, unreasonable old heads talk about it. You'd think it was some wall of impenetrable material that prevented anyone from driving into the key. :oldlol:
It was something I've always brought up. Its simply used as a redirecting method of defense, and its still as active today. You can't use it to push other players or hold them as many suggest. The whole soft image the league gets now is because technical and unsportsmanlike fouls are called more often. And for good reason; we don't want players injured.
I know you've been hand checked before lol. I've had people call a hand check on me in a street ball game it's like forreal? It depends on the person. Some people have vicious hand checks, but usually that would be illegal even in the old nba.
That being said, they do hand check now, but they'll call it. You can definitely hand check people now. Basically you hand check for just one second as a bump. I always thought people who held onto you with a hand and pushed you away from the hoop were fouling me, but I never called it. A lot of old people I used to play against would do that.
Never tried the old MJ slapping someone's hand off of you. haha... It's like SON, get off me. I always thought that move was hilarious.
-Smak
RedBlackAttack
02-16-2013, 05:36 PM
Never forget it. :(
Those Cavs teams will forever stay underrated.
bdreason
02-16-2013, 05:57 PM
I'm confident if he missed that shot, there would be no Bulls dynasty
Bulls were up 3-1 in that series. Even if they lost that game, it was going back to Chicago with the Bulls up 3-2.
sportsfan76
02-16-2013, 06:07 PM
Bulls were up 3-1 in that series. Even if they lost that game, it was going back to Chicago with the Bulls up 3-2.
You are no longer qualified to talk basketball on this site. They did not have 7 game series in the 1st round in 1989 you stupid mutherf*cker. That was game 5 which was the last game
Stop Posting
CLTHornets4eva
02-16-2013, 06:10 PM
Also, if you want to be like the GOAT, listen to this before games.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWwUcytu5Tk
I looked that up too. LOL
Not exactly pump up music. :oldlol:
sportsfan76
02-16-2013, 06:13 PM
bdreason
do everyone on this board a huge favor and STOP POSTING
KungFuJoe
02-16-2013, 06:28 PM
Bulls were up 3-1 in that series. Even if they lost that game, it was going back to Chicago with the Bulls up 3-2.
WTF??? :facepalm
sportsfan76
02-16-2013, 06:31 PM
WTF??? :facepalm
That mutherf*cker on medication:roll: :roll: :roll:
bagelred
02-16-2013, 07:12 PM
James Brown looks exactly the same.
tmacattack33
02-16-2013, 07:23 PM
Nice. I've only seen the actual game footage like every one else probably.
Seeing it from this view with no commentary makes it seem more real.
Money 23
02-16-2013, 07:47 PM
Never seen that angle before, either. Shame how that local reporter got thrown out of the way by the big bully larger networks. That was BEYOND rude.
RedBlackAttack
02-16-2013, 07:50 PM
Never seen that angle before, either. Shame how that local reporter got thrown out of the way by the big bully larger networks. That was BEYOND rude.
Welcome to the life of a regional reporter. :oldlol:
He knew it was coming, I'm sure, which is why he was trying to get a reaction before James Brown took over the scene.
Money 23
02-16-2013, 07:53 PM
Welcome to the life of a regional reporter. :oldlol:
He knew it was coming, I'm sure, which is why he was trying to get a reaction before James Brown took over the scene.
Jesus, I would've punched the dude while holding his camera. Honestly, even if I was the athlete I would've said something. That was actually kind of distrurbing to watch.
OldSchoolBBall
02-16-2013, 09:06 PM
That was really, really neat. Had floor level seats for the shot and got to an up-close first person view of running out on the court and up to Jordan for the celebration. Is there more footage like that out there of Jordan and/or other players after hitting a game winning buzzer beater?
The NBA probably has footage like this for many/most games, but we only get to see it as they dole it out in snippets for NBA video specials or on NBA TV specials etc. They've had multiple courtside cameras/photographers for at least 25 years now. Shame we rarely get to see this stuff - give you a really fresh perspective.
Money 23
02-16-2013, 09:07 PM
The NBA probably has footage like this for many/most games, but we only get to see it as they dole it out in snippets for NBA video specials or on NBA TV specials etc. They've had multiple courtside cameras/photographers for at least 25 years now. Shame we rarely get to see this stuff - give you a really fresh perspective.
Spike Lee has been fighting to get control of the tapes for a Jordan documentary for sometime now.
Kobe Doin Work was supposed to be his application to the league that he would handle their footage with care.
jstern
02-16-2013, 10:08 PM
Jesus, I would've punched the dude while holding his camera. Honestly, even if I was the athlete I would've said something. That was actually kind of distrurbing to watch.
At least Jordan was nice to him later if I'm not mistaken, acknowledging him, letting him know and making sure that he knew that he remembers him.
RedBlackAttack
02-16-2013, 10:16 PM
At least Jordan was nice to him later if I'm not mistaken, acknowledging him, letting him know and making sure that he knew that he remembers him.
Yeah, I thought that was a really good look on Jordan's part. A personal gesture when he could have easily headed to the lockerrom with his teammates.
Jordan has always been the standard when it comes to media relations.
necya
02-16-2013, 10:40 PM
Bulls were up 3-1 in that series. Even if they lost that game, it was going back to Chicago with the Bulls up 3-2.
dammit, do you realise ? i mean, you did it !?
Rake2204
03-04-2013, 11:49 PM
I must admit, I always knew the Cavaliers were good back then, but I never really understood how feared and respected they were that season until I began reading a book about the Pistons 1989 championship run.
The book frequently refers to the Cavs as The Assassins (coined by someone within the Pistons organization) and nearly every mention of them for the first 200 pages is about how deep and skilled they were, with an excellently stoic head coach (Lenny Wilkens) and a boss of a GM who never gets excited or upset, just keeps his arms folded and nods knowingly as his team continues to dominate (Wayne Embry).
The Pistons were eventually able to cut into (and eventually overcome) Cleveland's big division lead near the end of the regular season but the Cavs were not a team they were looking forward to facing in the post-season that year. And the thought was the sixth seeded Bulls didn't have much of a chance against Cleveland because the Cavs was so incredibly deep (and still had Ron Harper) while the Bulls were known only as a one man crew.
Anyway, long story short, learning about that Cleveland team in real detail (not just looking at basketballreference.com or drawing my own conclusions simply based off the big names they had) really added another layer to my understanding of the importance of Jordan's shot that year. The thought at the time was that Cleveland's run was just beginning, that they'd be challenging for years to come. What could have been, I suppose.
Bulls were up 3-1 in that series. Even if they lost that game, it was going back to Chicago with the Bulls up 3-2.
That series was a best of 5.
La Frescobaldi
03-05-2013, 06:30 AM
I'm talking hand check in the sense that a lot of ignorant, unreasonable old heads talk about it. You'd think it was some wall of impenetrable material that prevented anyone from driving into the key. :oldlol:
It was something I've always brought up. Its simply used as a redirecting method of defense, and its still as active today. You can't use it to push other players or hold them as many suggest. The whole soft image the league gets now is because technical and unsportsmanlike fouls are called more often. And for good reason; we don't want players injured.
Nobody with any knowledge calls it any wall of anything. It's hand checking. You throw a guy off his rhythm, change his pattern. It's incredibly effective by guys who study balance , leverage, geometry.
The great masters of handcheck could knock 4 or 5 or more points off an elite scorers average.
And the whole soft image is because it IS soft. Don't call it anything but soft when like 5 hours ago JJ Barea just got tossed out of a game for pushing Ray Allen. It has nothing to do with injuries it has to do with girlie mentality of fans that play 2k instead of hoops
La Frescobaldi
03-05-2013, 06:33 AM
Bulls were up 3-1 in that series. Even if they lost that game, it was going back to Chicago with the Bulls up 3-2.
don't sweat all the putrid posts on here. so it's wrong on that point - so what?
yer good. buncha guys drinking hatred that's all
Watch the 1:45 mark to the 1:47 mark. MJ is cool as a cucumber. :roll:
AirFederer
03-05-2013, 09:44 AM
Very cool vid, an amazing game :applause:
lilojmayo
06-09-2013, 12:03 AM
Amazing footage
StarJordan
06-09-2013, 12:48 AM
Let's go chuck
305Baller
06-09-2013, 02:28 AM
Vids don't work.
Poetry
06-09-2013, 03:30 AM
Vids don't work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIPQZTBr0r0
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