The Official Dion Waiters Thread

[PleezeBelieve]

Through 4 games: 16 ppg 2 apg 2 rpg 2 spg 48% 55% 28.5 mpg

[Fudge]

No.

[CeltsGarlic]

Future star.

[PleezeBelieve]

No.
will wait for you on the bandwagon

[RRR3]

Damian Lillard>>>>>>

[PleezeBelieve]

Damian Lillard>>>>>>
You're a media parrot. Go fetch my jacket, son

[RedBlackAttack]

I've really liked what I've seen out of Dion so far. He's shown a lot more patience than I expected and he has an absolutely explosive first step. His jumper has also looked pretty good so far, surprisingly after his poor Summer League and Preseason performances. He might just be one of those guys who shines brightest when the lights turn on.

He needs to work on finishing around the basket, though. With his explosiveness and ball-handling at his size, he can get there when he wants... But he misses a lot of bunnies at the rim.

Still, he's been a lot better than I expected this soon.

EDIT: Lillard doesn't belong in this conversation because the Cavs didn't need a point guard, obviously. He was never an option.

[PleezeBelieve]

He simply has a tremendous basketball IQ. Even higher than Kyrie

[RRR3]

You're a media parrot. Go fetch my jacket, son
Have you seen Lillard play? He's incredible.

[RedBlackAttack]

Here are his highlights from his first game...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bfcDqhwB14

[PleezeBelieve]

Lillard os 22.5 years old. Wait till Waiters is that age... in 2014

[RRR3]

Really wish Beal had done better. PB is going to be insufferable now :facepalm
Good game by Waiters, though.

[RedBlackAttack]

Have you seen Lillard play? He's incredible.
....and we have Kyrie Irivng. Again, Lillard was never an option.

[PleezeBelieve]

Bulls were doubling Waiters already in Game 2

[RRR3]

....and we have Kyrie Irivng. Again, Lillard was never an option.
Two guard lineup :D

[Graviton]

Damian Lillard>>>>>>
Thisx10

Why the hell did he not go Top 5?

[RedBlackAttack]

Thisx10

Why the hell did he not go Top 5?
:facepalm

Did people honestly expect the Cavs to draft Lillard? :oldlol: What the hell is wrong with you people?

[RRR3]

:facepalm

Did people honestly expect the Cavs to draft Lillard? :oldlol: What the hell is wrong with you people?
Clippers play CP3 and Billups at the guard spots :confusedshrug: I'm not saying they should have, but they could potentially have made it work. Lillard is truly amazing though, I'm in awe of how good he is already.

[Suckafree]

Why the Fvck would the cavs have picked lillard?


Anyways, hows Tristan Thompson been playing?

[RedBlackAttack]

Why the Fvck would the cavs have picked lillard?
No... It makes perfect sense... If you are playing NBA2K13. Actually, you would probably get smoked on there too with two 6'3" point guards as your starting backcourt.


Anyways, hows Tristan Thompson been playing?
Pretty good, actually. He looked great in the first game. Granted, it was against the awful Wizards, but he had a double-double with excellent defense. Last night, he was on pace to another double-double at halftime, but Scott pulled the plug with his starters relatively early in the second half and he didn't get many minutes.

He's made some huge strides this year. Looked like a deer in headlights much of the time with the ball in his hands last year. This year, he's been a good finisher and has even shown some nice passing skills. Defensively, he's been head-and-shoulders better, especially with his help.

[chips93]

i know hes only got 2 apg, but his passing has really impressed me. when he ges into the lane he makes great passes to the open big man. he has very good court vision for a sg.



thompsons defense yesterday was pretty bad imo. AC did a good job pointing out when he got lost on a robinson-gibson pick and roll

this team still has a long ways to go defensively



as for lilard, he went to a tiny school, and only played against scrub schools, so he was pretty unproven

[RedBlackAttack]

i know hes only got 2 apg, but his passing has really impressed me. when he ges into the lane he makes great passes to the open big man. he has very good court vision for a sg.



thompsons defense yesterday was pretty bad imo. AC did a good job pointing out when he got lost on a robinson-gibson pick and roll

this team still has a long ways to go defensively

Agreed. Waiters is a far better passer than I anticipated. That is going to be key as he develops, because his explosive first step will open things up.

And, yes... Boozer feasted on Tristan last night for the most part. He was better in the third quarter, but the game was way out of hand by that point. He still has a lot to learn, obviously... But he's already come some distance since last year.

[PleezeBelieve]

Thread updated.

ROY so far

[KG215]

Thread updated.

ROY so far

No, that'd still be Lillard.

Not that it matters since no team has even played five games yet.

[FreezingTsmoove]

28 points. **** off Lillard

[PleezeBelieve]

Lillard: 37 MPG
Waiters: 28 MPG

Lillard: 19 PPG
Waiters: 16 PPG

Lillard: 16.5 FGA per game
Waiters: 12.5 FGA per game

Lillard: 40 FG%
Waiters: 48 FG%

Lillard: 29 3p%
Waiters: 55 3p%

[PleezeBelieve]

I deal in facts, you dudes continue to make stuff up.

Waiters ROY so far. Get off the bandwagon you're on and get on the one for Waiters. Or you could wait for the media to give you the okay and I'm sure you'll come around.

[FreezingTsmoove]

Lillard: 37 MPG
Waiters: 28 MPG

Lillard: 19 PPG
Waiters: 16 PPG

Lillard: 16.5 FGA per game
Waiters: 12.5 FGA per game

Lillard: 40 FG%
Waiters: 48 FG%

Lillard: 29 3p%
Waiters: 55 3p%


:facepalm where's this guys ESPN hype? :facepalm

Shoutout to 2K for correctly predicting that Waiters would average 16 ppg before the season started :bowdown:

[KB2009Champ]

Lillard: 37 MPG
Waiters: 28 MPG

Lillard: 19 PPG
Waiters: 16 PPG

Lillard: 16.5 FGA per game
Waiters: 12.5 FGA per game

Lillard: 40 FG%
Waiters: 48 FG%

Lillard: 29 3p%
Waiters: 55 3p%

Lillard finally had an awful game last night that brought his shooting percentages down. Interesting that you didnt post this before last night's set of games.

gtfo

[b1imtf]

Thisx10

Why the hell did he not go Top 5?
Lol @ you acting like he was so far away from that

[RRR3]

Lillard shits all over Waiters. LOL @ PB acting like he doesn't. Can't wait to watch Lillard style all over the Cavs and for PB to disappear.

[Toizumi]

Waiters has been great so far and I didn't expect the Cavs to be this good. The man deserves his own thread. If he keeps this up he will contend for ROY, with Davis and Lillard.
No need to compare with Lillard, they play different positions and have different roles. Lillard runs the entire Portland offense right now and Waiters isn't requested to do the same. Also, PB your stat comparison is stupid. Scoringwise, Waiters has been great, however if you add assists, RPG, FTA and made, TOV (especially considering their time on the court) it swings in the favor of Lillard.

[Burgz V2]

Waiters has been as good as advertised (or at least by the Cleveland front office) but Lillard has been better.

a pg with his skill set hasn't come into the league in quite some time. His three pt range is amazing for a rookie pg, the comparisons to young chauncey are really sticking with me, i dont see anyone really coming close to him in the ROY race tbh. while waiters is expected to focus purely on scoring, it his not a priority for him to create for others because of his partnership with Kyrie, Kyrie is the facilitator. However, Lillard is already the best perimeter scorer on the Blazers and he is also relied on a lot in the pick and roll and pick and pop game to find open guys. he's similar to Kyrie last year, in that regard, but i think his jumpshot is much better. He must become a better defender though i will admit

[PleezeBelieve]

Waiters has been as good as advertised (or at least by the Cleveland front office) but Lillard has been better.

a pg with his skill set hasn't come into the league in quite some time. His three pt range is amazing for a rookie pg, the comparisons to young chauncey are really sticking with me, i dont see anyone really coming close to him in the ROY race tbh.
Lillard is shooting 29% from 3. What are you talking about? Waiters is shooting 55% on 20 attempts in four games.

Facts matter.

[PleezeBelieve]

When you factor in assists then you have to take into account Usage%. Handle thr ball more then of course you will have morr opportunities to increase your stats.

Fact is Waiters had the best game of any rookie this year.

[Burgz V2]

Lillard is shooting 29% from 3. What are you talking about? Waiters is shooting 55% on 20 attempts in four games.

Facts matter.

first of all, i watched both of them in college last season and if you are going to compare three games vs. their entire body of work up until this point then you sir are ignoring the facts. nice try though

second of all, you should quit trolling, you're not very good at it

[DStebb716]

Lillard shits all over Waiters. LOL @ PB acting like he doesn't. Can't wait to watch Lillard style all over the Cavs and for PB to disappear.

you do realize they play different positions, right?

[Meticode]

RRR3 is smoking crack. I skimmed through the thread and can't tell if it's troller-ism or crack. :roll:

[ukballer]

you do realize they play different positions, right?

This statement applies to both RRR3 and PB.

[KyrieTheFuture]

The lack of basic bball IQ in this thread is astounding.

[Da KO King]

Thisx10

Why the hell did he not go Top 5?
He went to Weber State. Point/Combo Guards from small or mid-major schools/conferences don't go in the top 5.

[PleezeBelieve]

first of all, i watched both of them in college last season and if you are going to compare three games vs. their entire body of work up until this point then you sir are ignoring the facts. nice try though

second of all, you should quit trolling, you're not very good at it
Dion shot better in his sophmore year than Lillard did in four years at Weber State... and Dion did it in the Big East.

Fact.

Try again, I am your GOD and I okay you to respond

[PleezeBelieve]

I see something going on here, so let me be clear -- Dion is a better prospect than Lillard. Look inside the numbers and you will understand

[Meticode]

PM if you're interested in obtaining funds for hacking PB.

[KyrieTheFuture]

PB Dion could become the GOAT and you'd still be an embarrassment just from the Kyrie thread man. **** off of Dion man I don't want you associated with the cavs.

[PleezeBelieve]

In 102 games at Weber State Lillard shot 44%... and that was against mid major competition.

Fact

[PleezeBelieve]

Bump

[RRR3]

RRR3 is smoking crack. I skimmed through the thread and can't tell if it's troller-ism or crack. :roll:
It's called trolling pleezebelieve, don't try and get cute.

[Nash]

I'm on the Dion train. Thank you Pleezebelieve, I believe!!

[PleezeBelieve]

I'm on the Dion train. Thank you Pleezebelieve, I believe!!
You're welcome.

N

[chips93]

he played great last night, scott even trusted him and let him handle the ball more than kyrie, in crunch time

[SourPatchKids]

http://www.kicksonfire.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/1129-630x948.jpg

[LoneyROY7]

:lol

[AlonzoGOAT]

Dion with the game winning fail, he leaves ray allen for the game winning 3 to TRIPLE lebron, Ray then smirked at dion and shook his head "rookies :facepalm "

[kumquat]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2012/basketball/nba/10/08/anthony-davis-nba-rookies-roundtable/lillard.jpg

[DukeDelonte13]

Dion with the game winning fail, he leaves ray allen for the game winning 3 to TRIPLE lebron, Ray then smirked at dion and shook his head "rookies :facepalm "


Dion wasn't the first guy nor will he be the last guy ray shoots clutch 3's over. Tough loss, but unbelievable that the cavs almost beat Miami on the second night of a back to back without Kyrie.

[chips93]

dion was really passive when the heat put lebron on him. that pretty much killed our offense in crunch time.

[Basketbolero]

dion was really passive when the heat put lebron on him. that pretty much killed our offense in crunch time.
How has his defense been so far?

[IGotACoolStory]

Will Waiters ever shoot above 50% ever again?

Last 7 games: 35 of 119 from the field. Dat 29.4 fg% on 17 fga. :bowdown:

[RedBlackAttack]

Will Waiters ever shoot above 50% ever again?

Last 7 games: 35 of 119 from the field. Dat 29.4 fg% on 17 fga. :bowdown:
Yes, because it is unusual for a shooting guard to struggle with efficiency early in their careers. Please review the other 2s drafted in this class and compare shooting percentages. Pretty sure Dion's is actually better than those of Beal, Rivers, etc.

Having actually watched every Cavs game this year, I can safely say that Dion has surpassed all of my expectations. I know it is fun to troll a troll and PB does everything in his power to make this board hate every player in Cleveland, but Waiters has been anything but disappointing thus far.