Kobe is a very underrated passer [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

9erempiree

09-12-2012, 02:59 AM

chains5000

09-12-2012, 03:00 AM

plowking

09-12-2012, 03:03 AM

I'm going to say that I can literally name 100 better passers in NBA history than Kobe off the top of my head. I'm not sure if I can, but I really think I could without having to look up stats.

Smoke117

09-12-2012, 03:13 AM

Probably one of the most underrated aspect of his game and probably a top 10 passer of all time.

I think his passing is probably second to none other than Magic Johnson. Last of a dying breed in regards to the flash and precision of these passes.

Enjoy the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kZd1K5_RgM

:biggums: :facepalm :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

9erempiree

09-12-2012, 03:15 AM

:biggums: :facepalm :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Top 10 all time.

2nd for the Lakers.

chazzy

09-12-2012, 03:16 AM

posting in a troll thread

I hate hearing songs from 2k in mix videos

fpliii

09-12-2012, 03:16 AM

damn, I miss 8be :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Smoke117

09-12-2012, 03:25 AM

Top 10 all time.

2nd for the Lakers.

Again: :biggums: :facepalm :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Top 10 all time? Are you ****ing retarded?

2nd all time for the Lakers? Ever heard of Norm Nixon? Jerry West? Nick Van Exel was a better passer too though his stay was short. Top 10 all time? He's not even top 10 over the last 5 years and he would not even make a top 10 list of passing g/f's all time.

Maga_1

09-12-2012, 03:28 AM

You must be mentally ill to think that, seriously.

bdreason

09-12-2012, 03:30 AM

"Kobe is an amazing passer, when he wants to be"

"Kobe is a lock-down defender, when he wants to be"

greymatter

09-12-2012, 03:32 AM

Apparently someone wasn't content to let the title of dumbest Kobe-tard on ISH go exclusively to the likes of griffmoney or KOBE143.

Kobe 4 The Win

09-12-2012, 03:52 AM

The passes in that video speak for themselves. Kobe is an amazing passer. Flashy and efficient. I just wish that he had a little more of that passers mentality because if he did he would be unstoppable like Jordan in the 1991 Finals. As a Lakers fan it pains me to say it but in the 1991 Finals when Jordan was moving the ball the defense didn't know whether to shit or go blind.

creepingdeath

09-12-2012, 04:08 AM

Kobe is a very underrated passer
http://i.imgur.com/DAIFy.gif

Rubio2Gasol

09-12-2012, 04:12 AM

When he wants to be he's a great playmaker.

He was a great playmaker with Shaq for a while.

Bandito

09-12-2012, 04:20 AM

I'll bet you a 100$ that all the haters in this topic are Lebrontards:lol

Reality is he is an underrated passer, I wouldn't say top ten because that's retarded but he is pretty good.

livingby3's

09-12-2012, 04:27 AM

I'll bet you a 100$ that all the haters in this topic are Lebrontards:lol

Reality is he is an underrated passer, I wouldn't say top ten because that's retarded but he is pretty good.

this. Kobe is underrated in his passing ability. had he been more willing to pass, he would have been a much more well rounded and effective player on the offensive end imo.

KG215

09-12-2012, 04:28 AM

KG215

09-12-2012, 04:31 AM

this. Kobe is underrated in his passing ability. had he been more willing to pass, he would have been a much more well rounded and effective player on the offensive end imo.

I'm pretty sure most of the posters in this thread are mainly upset with the ridiculousness of 9erempire saying he's a top 10 passer all-time.

Maybe the OP left off a 0 in the original post?:confusedshrug:

Rubio2Gasol

09-12-2012, 04:36 AM

this. Kobe is underrated in his passing ability. had he been more willing to pass, he would have been a much more well rounded and effective player on the offensive end imo.

More efficient maybe but not sure about more effective.

Passing is an embedded part of the triangle anyway, I don't think that was ever his job. His job is to make plays, and for someone of his qualities I think scoring first and passing as a last resort isthe best option.

Smoke117

09-12-2012, 04:37 AM

I'll bet you a 100$ that all the haters in this topic are Lebrontards:lol

Reality is he is an underrated passer, I wouldn't say top ten because that's retarded but he is pretty good.

Yeah that is what it is, it's because were all "lebrontards". I could give two shits about Lebron. I'm not even a fan of Lebron. What he said is just stupid as hell.

zass

09-12-2012, 05:43 AM

this pass is underrated
it's not an assist though, becasude Radmanovic screwed it up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDEi-cN_NMg

SyRyanYang

09-12-2012, 05:56 AM

OP is obviously a Lebron fan boy pretending to be Kobe stan. Can't believe anyone's falling for that fraud.

KOBE143

09-12-2012, 06:14 AM

Probably one of the most underrated aspect of his game and probably a top 10 passer of all time.

I think his passing is probably second to none other than Magic Johnson. Last of a dying breed in regards to the flash and precision of these passes.

Enjoy the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kZd1K5_RgM
nothing but the truth.. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

FPJ

09-12-2012, 06:34 AM

OP is obviously a Lebron fan boy pretending to be Kobe stan. Can't believe anyone's falling for that fraud.

Both Lebron or Kobe fans could pull up something like this :oldlol:

TheBigVeto

09-12-2012, 06:54 AM

OP's IQ is clearly below 15.

9erempiree

09-12-2012, 02:37 PM

I will be posting more videos soon.

scm5

09-12-2012, 02:56 PM

OP is what gives Kobe fans a bad name.

I do think Kobe could be a better passer if he actually made it a point to pass more and be more of a facilitator, but even then, he wouldn't be anywhere near the Top 10 passer all time.

pauk

09-12-2012, 02:57 PM

http://i56.tinypic.com/2m0dfo.gif

j/k :D

TheMarkMadsen

09-12-2012, 02:59 PM

pauk

09-12-2012, 03:03 PM

probably a top 10 passer of all time.

I think his passing is probably second to none other than Magic Johnson.

http://winningandmisery.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/kobe-hilariously-confused-reaction-gif.gif

KG215

09-12-2012, 04:21 PM

He's led his team in assist for the past 15 seasons or something like that.

Very underatted indeed. IDK about top 10 all time though. That's mostly reserved for point guards who made a career out of getting assist.

Because his PGs were Derek Fisher, Smush Parker, and Ramon Sessions. None of which were your traditional pass-first playmaking/distributing PGs. Not to mention, most of his career, Kobe has done the most ball handling for the Lakers in the halfcourt.

This isn't directed at you, but that is another "fact" Kobetards like to use when speaking of his great passing ability without putting the "fact" into context.

ZaaaaaH

09-12-2012, 04:37 PM

Kobe is Good Passer with Elite lvl of Play making

LeBron is a Elite Passer with Good lvl of play making.

Feel me !

kurple

09-12-2012, 04:45 PM

GREATEST PASSER EVER!!!!!

just watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kniGff8IaE

kennethgriffin

09-12-2012, 05:05 PM

kobe was the main playmaker/point guard for 5 nba championships

yea i think he knows how to pass

fisher was the shooting guard. he just didnt take allot of shots.

whos the point guard

( the guy who brings the ball up, sets up the offense, draws doubles, makes plays )

or

( the guy standing in the corner for a kick out three whos a black hole whenever he touched a ball in his life )

caliman

09-12-2012, 05:35 PM

Kobe's passing is underrated. Top 10 passer all time? Hell no!!! It's a shame because he is a gifted passer and play maker, but for games at a time he absolutely refuses to give up the rock.

SuperPippen

09-12-2012, 05:42 PM

How the hell is TheLogo not banned yet?

He has proven time and time again that he simply does not possess the capacity, nor the desire to function on the same plane of existence as everyone else.

Also, he's a ******.

NumberSix

09-12-2012, 05:48 PM

OP seriously need to be banned like a muhfukka

Owl

09-12-2012, 05:49 PM

Kobe is gifted as a passer. Technically and in terms of being able to see passing options he's good. However I recall Phil Jackson saying something, earlier in his career, vaguely along the lines of Kobe always seeing the right play but not always choosing it. The assertion that he is a top ten passer all time, or 2nd to only Magic, even if talking about only about technical skill, is simply not credible.

9erempiree

09-12-2012, 05:52 PM

OP seriously need to be banned like a muhfukka

So I should be banned for stating opinion and I also have video evidence that he's one of the greatest passers in history?

Also, he's #41 in career assists, that's a fact.

:facepalm

9erempiree

09-12-2012, 05:57 PM

Here's some more sick passing and nobody in the league history does this kind of stuff....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwbxtA2Pugs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnvOelIhYeQ

kennethgriffin

09-12-2012, 05:59 PM

So I should be banned for stating opinion and I also have video evidence that he's one of the greatest passers in history?

Also, he's #41 in career assists, that's a fact.

:facepalm

lol don't you know on ISH if you mention kobe's name in any positive sense you get negged and asked to be banned

look at all the letots on ISH with full green.

i myself have never repped anyone good or bad. i guess its an age thing.

10 year olds probably depend on ISH for all their contact with society outside of their moms basement

Vertical-24

09-12-2012, 06:01 PM

Kobe is a brilliant passer. The reason a lot of people tend to underrate it or overlook it is because he is deemed as much more of an individual scorer, meaning he tends to look more for his own shot. Still he pretty much averaged 5 assists his whole career, which is great for a SG by the way. And I agree, another reason why he is a more underrated passer is because it's believed he is reluctant to actually pass.

Great video by the way. Anyone who doubts Kobe's passing ability or claims he isn't a skilled passer is also way over their heads, same with those claiming he's top 10. Though he can be argued for maybe top 15-20.

funnystuff

09-12-2012, 06:09 PM

http://i56.tinypic.com/2m0dfo.gif

j/k :D
OH MY GERD, i just LOLed hard. :applause:

ihoopallday

09-12-2012, 06:17 PM

http://i56.tinypic.com/2m0dfo.gif

j/k :D

:roll: :roll: Nice one Pauk.

FKAri

09-12-2012, 06:29 PM

Posters cannot praise something they have never seen. :lol

kNicKz

09-12-2012, 06:32 PM

Underrated passer: yes

top 10 passer: no

CavaliersFTW

09-12-2012, 06:32 PM

Top 10 all time.

2nd for the Lakers.
Baylor, West, hell even Wilt sh*ts on Kobe as a passer

funnystuff

09-12-2012, 06:36 PM

Kobe is a talented passer, problem is, he never passes.

ZeN

09-12-2012, 06:44 PM

Kobe is a talented passer, problem is, he never passes.
THIS

Plus, for many years he was wasting passes on Kwame, Sasha, Bynum, Mimhs, Odom etc.. And they would never be ready for his unexpected passes.

On may nights he could have had 8+ assists if players weren't lounging around being KB spectators.. Although that's in part Bryant's fault since his teammates know that his primary focus is shooting.

Miserio

09-12-2012, 06:51 PM

He's not even the best SG passer of this era. Manu is.

G-Funk

09-12-2012, 07:16 PM

This aint shyt, Number 8 was a lot more flashy

G-Funk

09-12-2012, 07:16 PM

Underrated passer: yes

top 10 passer: no
this

RRR3

09-12-2012, 07:23 PM

I don't think anyone honestly thinks Kobe isn't a very good passer, anyone who's watched him play knows he's a talented passer. The thing is, there have been many times throughout his career when he hasn't passed as much as he probably should have. That said, OP is overrating the hell out of Kobe's passing.

G-Funk

09-12-2012, 07:40 PM

Kobe is a very willing passer, ppl act like he's not. 1 less than MJ is not horrible specially in the triangle(MJ with Phil avg 5 per game). What makes him look bad is the fact that he does not like to pass in crunch time.

StateOfMind12

09-12-2012, 07:47 PM

It's kind of hard to rate somebody as a passer when they never pass in the first place. :oldlol:

He is an underrated passer in terms of his passing capabilities but he doesn't utilize it as much as someone like Lebron does. I always thought in terms of just purely skill, Kobe and Lebron were even as passers. The edge goes to Lebron for having more size and being more willing though.

TheBigVeto

09-12-2012, 08:27 PM

Probably one of the most underrated aspect of his game and probably a top 10 passer of all time.

I think his passing is probably second to none other than Magic Johnson. Last of a dying breed in regards to the flash and precision of these passes.

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Boston C's

09-12-2012, 08:35 PM

Yeah that is what it is, it's because were all "lebrontards". I could give two shits about Lebron. I'm not even a fan of Lebron. What he said is just stupid as hell.

This :lol

bizil

09-13-2012, 12:15 AM

I think Kobe is one of the better passers EVER for a SG. Kobe was always a guy who could play and defend PG, SG, and SF. The thing is Kobe's mindset is to dominate scoring. He's doesn't balance dominant scoring and dominant passing the way Bron does. But Kobe, similar to MJ, is player that can dominate a game passing as well. But I think MJ was even a more willing passer than Kobe. The only SG's I can name off the top of my head that are just as good or better passers than Kobe are MJ, West, Wade, TMac, Iverson, Pete, and Drexler. Other than those guys, I will take Kobe's passing ability over any other SG's. And when he's in playmaker mode, I think he can arguably be the best passing SG. It's just that his mindset isn't as willing as other SG's. But he has the talent, vision, handle, and creativity for it.

And let's not forget this, Kobe most of the time was the de facto PG for the Lakers anyway. Blake, Fisher, Harper, and Smush were the PG's he played with a lot. And even though with the triangle u don't always need a real PG, Kobe was still the main setup guy on the Lakers. Kobe as a rook for all intensive purposes played a lot of backup PG coming off the bench. He was actually being compared a lot to Penny Hardaway because he was running PG that often pre Phil and triangle. That's why having a guy like Nash alongside him will take a heavy burden off of Kobe.

Clutch

09-13-2012, 04:07 AM

I agree that he's a very underrated passer. Many people say he doesn't know how to pass but in reality no one has actually seen him pass the ball yet.

DJ Leon Smith

09-13-2012, 07:09 AM

Kobe fans trying to prop him up for being a good passer are saying exactly the same stuff they use to push the "KOBE IS AN ALL-TIME GREAT DEFENDER" agenda - that he CAN do it at an elite level, but just doesn't do it all the time. Which isn't a great argument.

G-Funk

09-13-2012, 12:25 PM

eliteballer

09-13-2012, 12:34 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-tXvMriU0Y&t=21s

Mr Exlax

09-13-2012, 01:10 PM

It's one thing to run a play and lead the man to his sweet spot or something like that. It's another thing to be able to get to the lane and then just kick it out to an open teammate. Both take skill, but let's be logical about this. Top 10? In what? For sure not the NBA.

lilgodfather1

09-13-2012, 01:24 PM

Kobe is an overrated passer and an underrated passer apparently.

Kobe is incredibly overrated when you try and say he is a top 10 passer of all time.

Kobe is an underrated passer when you don't realise that averaging 5 assists per game for multiple years is a pretty good average, and is not at all indicative of someone who doesn't pass.

Kobe is overrated when people say he is close to Magic...

Kobe is underrated when people say he isn't one of the best passers currently in the league not at PG. Hell he's definately top 5 in terms of non PG passers currently in the NBA.

It's threads like this one that makes people hate Kobe though, and that much I know for sure.

9erempiree

09-13-2012, 05:05 PM

Definitely underrated and I brought up actual video footage from real games where people just bring up some stupid argument.

Did I mention that out of thousands of people trying out for basketball in it's history....Kobe is #41 in Assists over those thousands of people.

He's going to pass Jordan this season too.

9erempiree

09-14-2012, 02:27 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-tXvMriU0Y&t=21s

very nice.

red1

09-14-2012, 03:10 PM

Correction: kobe is a slightly underrated passer.

DJ Leon Smith

09-14-2012, 04:45 PM

Ur from Australia, ur opinion doesn't matter.

This sums up the intellectual level of the insidehoops forums.

Congratulations mods, can't wait for the next Kobe vs LeBron/weak era topic.

taucesays

09-14-2012, 04:56 PM

Kobe is an amazing passer and if you deny this you're a moron. As a Laker fan, I can say that the problem is his willingness to pass will completely change from one quarter to another. You never know if you're gonna get shot jacker Kobe or crazy wrap around pass Kobe. It's hard to keep your teammates in the flow of the offense if they don't know what to expect. This leads to passes bouncing off his teammates hands because they're not looking. Then Kobe reverts back to turn-around off-balance jumper mode.

9erempiree

09-27-2012, 04:27 PM

For sure he's one of the better Point shooting guard in the league.

At least in the past decade.

9erempiree

09-27-2012, 05:08 PM