#17 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kevin Garnett was voted the #16 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops.

19.3 PPG | 10.6 RPG | 4.0

NBA Champion
2003-04 NBA Most Valuable Player
2007-08 NBA Defensive Player of the Year
14

[magnax1]

Elgin Baylor

[DTreats]

Isaiah Thomas

[fpliii]

Zeke

[Sarcastic]

Isiah Thomas.

[Ne 1]

Pippen.

[Young X]

Barkley

[pauk]

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/karl-malone-mailman.jpg

[ImmortalD24]

Karl Malone and Dirk Nowitzki both have good cases for this spot.. I'm going with Karl Malone.

[hangintheair]

SIr Charles Barkley!!

[tmacattack33]

I only vote when it seems appropriate for someone from 1995 and up to be on the list.

So I'm voting for Malone right here.

[LosBulls]

Charles Barkley

[chazzy]

Dirk

[IGotACoolStory]

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0903/classic.ncaa.tourney.photos/images/001306336.jpg

[SilkkTheShocker]

Dirk won a title with ROLE PLAYERS. He should be the only answer here.

Dirk.

[ImmortalD24]

Dirk won a title with ROLE PLAYERS. He should be the only answer here.

Dirk.
Dirk didn't have to go through Jordan's bulls throughout his career doe..

No but seriously, it's really close between Dirk and Malone.. virtually a toss-up imo.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Dirk didn't have to go through Jordan's bulls throughout his career doe..

No but seriously, it's really close between Dirk and Malone.. virtually a toss-up imo.

The Jordan excuse gets weak for guys like Barkley and Malone. Jordan didn't beat them in the Finals every season. Both guys had playoff series where they choked. Barkley's Suns choked in 94 and 95 and Malone's struggles in the clutch are well documented.

[kurple]

Malone

[chips93]

elgin baylor

[joeyjoejoe]

Karl malone

[arifgokcen]

Baylor

[KG215]

Elgin Baylor

[RoundMoundOfReb]

david robinson

[SilkkTheShocker]

Baylor?

C'mon, lets take this poll seriously.

[Kblaze8855]

Rick Barry won a title with role players(14ppg rookie Wilkes as #2) and nobody gives a damn.

[lilgodfather1]

I'm having a hard time deciding between Zeke, Dirk, and Malone.

We have a chocker vs. a two time champ vs. a one time champ.

Dirk - 24,134 points
Malone - 36,928 points (#2 AT)
Thomas - 9,061 assists

It's not fair to compare two scorers career points to a passers career points. Since I think it is close at this point in time I think i'll give it to Dirk because he can only add to his legacy, where as the other two are done.

Dirk Nowitzki gets my vote.

[StateOfMind12]

Karl "The Mailman" Malone.

[JMT]

Malone

[BlackVVaves]

Isiah Thomas? :facepalm

Karl Malone.

He should be at 16.

[JMT]

Rick Barry won a title with role players(14ppg rookie Wilkes as #2) and nobody gives a damn.

Good call. But he'd be next on my list.

[Mr Know It All]

Dirk Nowitzki (though he is one of the most criminally hated and underrated players on this board so he'll prob drop further, even KG being so unanimously above him is laughable).

[SilkkTheShocker]

Dirk Nowitzki (though he is one of the most criminally hated and underrated players on this board so he'll prob drop further, even KG being so unanimously above him is laughable).

This. Dirk''s 2011 playoffs absolutely s,hits on anything KG did. The Mavs 2nd best player came off the bench, Butler was out, Haywood hurt, and two of their starting players (Kidd,Marion) were past their prime. Still contributed, but past their prime. Amazing how KG gets so overrated. They guy is the Pippen of power forwards. Great 2nd banana, but he will never be the guy holding the Finals MVP.

[StateOfMind12]

1. Duncan
2. Garnett
3. Malone
4. Dirk
5. Barkley

is how I would rank the top 5 PF. I already voted for Malone so don't count this as a vote for those making an attempt to tally.

[SilkkTheShocker]

1. Duncan
2. Garnett
3. Malone
4. Dirk
5. Barkley

is how I would rank the top 5 PF. I already voted for Malone so don't count this as a vote for those making an attempt to tally.


The best was when RoundMound tried arguing Barkley was a top 10 player ever :oldlol:

[pegasus]

Dirk!:rant

[iDunk]

Moses Malone before Karl Malone? WTF.

[Kews1]

Charles Barkley

[Ancient Legend]

Barkley

[Harison]

Le Mailman

[Round Mound]

Sir Charles Barkley: The Most Underrated Great of All Time

[Round Mound]

The best was when RoundMound tried arguing Barkley was a top 10 player ever :oldlol:

Broken Down Stats Suggest Im Right.

[BlackVVaves]

1. Duncan
2. Garnett
3. Malone
4. Dirk
5. Barkley

is how I would rank the top 5 PF. I already voted for Malone so don't count this as a vote for those making an attempt to tally.

Ranking the top PFs you've seen isn't the same as ranking the top PFs in league history.

Bob Pettit
26 PPG | 16 RPG | 3 APG - Career Averages
28 PPG | 20 RPG | 3 APG - Best Season
2-Time MVP
Championship - Beat the 1958 dynasty Boston Celtics, featuring Bill Russell and Bob Cousy. Averaged 24, 17, and 2 in that postseason.
FMVP did not exist back then. Had it, Pettit would have undoubtedly won.


Dirk Nowitzki
23 PPG | 8 RPG | 3 APG - Career Averages
27 PPG | 9 RPG | 3 APG - Best Season
MVP
Championship - Beat the 2011 Miami "Big Three" Heat, featuring Lebron James, Dwayne Wade, and Chris Bosh. Averaged 28, 8 and 3 in that postseason.
FMVP

Recent memory says Dirk deserves to be ranked higher than Pettit. History says otherwise.

[INDI]

Karl malone

[ThunderStruk022]

Broken Down Stats Suggest Im Right.

And The Whole Zero Rings Thing Suggests You're Wrong.

[Round Mound]

And The Whole Zero Rings Thing Suggests You're Wrong.

Ring Crap Again...:rolleyes: :facepalm

Then Russell > Jordan Right? :confusedshrug: :no:

Watch the Games and See Who is More Dominant. Barkley is the Most Dominant PF Ever

[ThunderStruk022]

Ring Crap Again...:rolleyes: :facepalm

Then Russell > Jordan Right? :confusedshrug: :no:

Watch the Games and See Who is More Dominant. Barkley is the Most Dominant PF Ever

No, Jordan >>> Than Russell. I Just Can't Put A Player In My Top 10 Who Has Zero Rings.

[ThunderStruk022]

Moses Malone before Karl Malone? WTF.
Not sure if serious..

If you are, :facepalm but if you're not, :oldlol: good one.

[nycelt84]

Elgin Baylor

[FreezingTsmoove]

Zeke

[SonOfMattGeiger]

Sir Charles

[Rojogaqu11]

Barkley>Malone and Dirk

A single championship difference between Dirk and Barkley is not enough to forget all the failures Dirk had with stacked teams. If a championship was enough to put him above Barkley and Malone, then what the heck are Bird and Wilt doing above Kobe, Shaq, and Duncan? Why isn't Bill Russell at least top 2 and Lebron almost top 10?? Then championships should help Robert Horry jump to at least top 50, right?

Championships are a great accomplishment that should be considered, but so are longevity, consistency, level of competition, rules and pace, skill-set and productivity, athleticism, health, and I would say that three other things should be considered in these type of evaluations: team-chemistry, character, and development or growth.

Because team-chemistry defines how a player was a factor not only during games statistically, but also how he exemplified leadership and promoted a winning mentality to others. Character defines the type of professional that a player strives to be, the type of effort a player gives on and off the court, almost like a visual measurement of a player's competitiveness. If a player fulfilled his potential, exceeded the expectations, and made the most out any situation in his career, then he grew into the best player he could possibly become, and that not only shows character, but straight up "love" for the game.

[Freedom Kid7]

Gotta give it to Zeke, the greatest little man. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7BmIVHdl3o)

[keepinitreal]

Rick Barry won a title with role players(14ppg rookie Wilkes as #2) and nobody gives a damn.

Rick Barry

[kennethgriffin]

this list is losing cred with every guy thats voted ahead of Elgin Baylor and Bob Cousy from now on


baylor = 27/13/4 career average

Honors
1956-57 NCAA AP All-America (2nd)
1957-58 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
1958-59 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1959-60 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1960-61 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1961-62 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1962-63 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1963-64 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1964-65 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1966-67 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1967-68 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1968-69 NBA All-NBA (1st)

All-Star Games
1959 NBA
1960 NBA
1961 NBA
1962 NBA
1963 NBA
1964 NBA
1965 NBA
1967 NBA
1968 NBA
1969 NBA
1970 NBA

7 NBA finals






Bob Cousy

18/5/8 career average

Honors
1947-48 NCAA AP All-America (3rd)
1948-49 NCAA AP All-America (2nd)
1949-50 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
1951-52 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1952-53 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1953-54 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1954-55 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1955-56 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1956-57 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1957-58 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1958-59 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1959-60 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1960-61 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1961-62 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
1962-63 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

All-Star Games
1951 NBA
1952 NBA
1953 NBA
1954 NBA
1955 NBA
1956 NBA
1957 NBA
1958 NBA
1959 NBA
1960 NBA
1961 NBA
1962 NBA
1963 NBA

Awards
1953-54 NBA All-Star Game MVP
1956-57 NBA All-Star Game MVP
1956-57 NBA MVP

Championships
(Minimum 1 playoff game)
1957 Boston Celtics (NBA)
1959 Boston Celtics (NBA)
1960 Boston Celtics (NBA)
1961 Boston Celtics (NBA)
1962 Boston Celtics (NBA)
1963 Boston Celtics (NBA)

[fpliii]

this list is losing cred with every guy thats voted ahead of Elgin Baylor and Bob Cousy from now on


baylor = 27/13/4 career average

Honors
1956-57 NCAA AP All-America (2nd)
1957-58 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
1958-59 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1959-60 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1960-61 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1961-62 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1962-63 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1963-64 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1964-65 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1966-67 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1967-68 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1968-69 NBA All-NBA (1st)

All-Star Games
1959 NBA
1960 NBA
1961 NBA
1962 NBA
1963 NBA
1964 NBA
1965 NBA
1967 NBA
1968 NBA
1969 NBA
1970 NBA

7 NBA finals






Bob Cousy

18/5/8 career average

Honors
1947-48 NCAA AP All-America (3rd)
1948-49 NCAA AP All-America (2nd)
1949-50 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
1951-52 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1952-53 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1953-54 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1954-55 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1955-56 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1956-57 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1957-58 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1958-59 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1959-60 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1960-61 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1961-62 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
1962-63 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

All-Star Games
1951 NBA
1952 NBA
1953 NBA
1954 NBA
1955 NBA
1956 NBA
1957 NBA
1958 NBA
1959 NBA
1960 NBA
1961 NBA
1962 NBA
1963 NBA

Awards
1953-54 NBA All-Star Game MVP
1956-57 NBA All-Star Game MVP
1956-57 NBA MVP

Championships
(Minimum 1 playoff game)
1957 Boston Celtics (NBA)
1959 Boston Celtics (NBA)
1960 Boston Celtics (NBA)
1961 Boston Celtics (NBA)
1962 Boston Celtics (NBA)
1963 Boston Celtics (NBA)

griff - where do you rank the 11 guys on the 35th anniversary team?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_35th_Anniversary_Team

[kennethgriffin]

griff - where do you rank the 11 guys on the 35th anniversary team?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_35th_Anniversary_Team


C Kareem Abdul-Jabbar ( arguable goat )
F Elgin Baylor ( top 13-15 )
C Wilt Chamberlain ( realistically top 5-6 )
G Bob Cousy ( top 15-20 )
F Julius Erving ( top 14-15 )
G/F John Havlicek ( top 20 )
C George Mikan ( top 25 )
F Bob Pettit ( top 20 )
G Oscar Robertson ( top 11-13 )
C Bill Russell ( arguable goat )
G Jerry West ( top 11-12 )

[KOBE143]

I like KG and his one of my favorite player but putting him over Karl Malone, Barkley and David Robinson.. :facepalm

I vote for The Mailman

[fpliii]

C Kareem Abdul-Jabbar ( arguable goat )
F Elgin Baylor ( top 13-15 )
C Wilt Chamberlain ( realistically top 5-6 )
G Bob Cousy ( top 15-20 )
F Julius Erving ( top 14-15 )
G/F John Havlicek ( top 20 )
C George Mikan ( top 25 )
F Bob Pettit ( top 20 )
G Oscar Robertson ( top 11-13 )
C Bill Russell ( arguable goat )
G Jerry West ( top 11-12 )

griff - someone on ESPN called you out

I don't post there anymore, but it looks like he/she is challenging your manhood

here's the link:

http://espn.go.com/nba/forum#!/topic/1346381902-360-450

[dyna]

Charles Barkley

[G-train]

Baylor

[DaHeezy]

Barkley

[pauk]

So far it looks like this:

Charles Barkley - 10
Karl Malone - 10
Elgin Baylor - 7
Isiah Thomas - 6
Dirk Nowitzki - 5
Scottie Pippen - 1
David Robinson - 1
Rick Barry - 1

[therammingman]

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0903/classic.ncaa.tourney.photos/images/001306336.jpg

mutombo?

[pauk]

mutombo?

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/1981/0406_large.jpg

[therammingman]

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/1981/0406_large.jpg

i know....

but his face looks the same as mutombo in that picture of him on the floor clutching the ball after nuggets upset sonics in playoffs

[1987_Lakers]

Charles Barkley

[Deuce Bigalow]

So far it looks like this:

Charles Barkley - 10
Karl Malone - 10
Elgin Baylor - 7
Isiah Thomas - 6
Dirk Nowitzki - 5
Scottie Pippen - 1
David Robinson - 1
Rick Barry - 1
Barkley has 8, Baylor has 6. Remember the rule.

Edit: Barkley has 9 now.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Ring Crap Again...:rolleyes: :facepalm

Then Russell > Jordan Right? :confusedshrug: :no:

Watch the Games and See Who is More Dominant. Barkley is the Most Dominant PF Ever
Ring "crap" ?

So winning a championship is crap?

[iamgine]

Barkley>Malone and Dirk

A single championship difference between Dirk and Barkley is not enough to forget all the failures Dirk had with stacked teams. If a championship was enough to put him above Barkley and Malone, then what the heck are Bird and Wilt doing above Kobe, Shaq, and Duncan? Why isn't Bill Russell at least top 2 and Lebron almost top 10?? Then championships should help Robert Horry jump to at least top 50, right?

Championships are a great accomplishment that should be considered, but so are longevity, consistency, level of competition, rules and pace, skill-set and productivity, athleticism, health, and I would say that three other things should be considered in these type of evaluations: team-chemistry, character, and development or growth.

Because team-chemistry defines how a player was a factor not only during games statistically, but also how he exemplified leadership and promoted a winning mentality to others. Character defines the type of professional that a player strives to be, the type of effort a player gives on and off the court, almost like a visual measurement of a player's competitiveness. If a player fulfilled his potential, exceeded the expectations, and made the most out any situation in his career, then he grew into the best player he could possibly become, and that not only shows character, but straight up "love" for the game.
Dirk had stacked teams? :wtf:

[JellyBean]

This dude

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/news/2001/03/08/sayitaintso_bulls/scottie_all.jpg

[Round Mound]

Charles Barkley

:applause: Sadly We are Few that Saw Barkley Play When Healthy and Prime

Charles Barkley was the Master of the Inside the 3-Point Line Game.

The Best Mid Range and Post Game Among All PFs and Never a Ball Hogg Like Many Others:

21.6 PPG on 12.9 Two-Point FGAs PG and a Two-Point FG% of 58.13%

22.5 PPG on 14.5 Two-Point FGAs PG and a Two-Point FG% of 55.13%

[raprap]

Dirk

[DirtySanchez]

Karl Malone!!!

He only had the second most points in NBA history.
The Mailman had a long and great career.

[Legends66NBA7]

Ring Crap Again..

:oldlol:

I don't know why you keep saying this and pull out the emoticons over and over again. As if everyone would just stop wanting to use rings in context for their arguments.


Then Russell > Jordan Right?

I give you credit for not saying Robert Horry > Jordan, but hey, I'm cool with Russell > Jordan. Nothing absurd about it to me. :cheers:

[Kblaze8855]

Sadly We are Few that Saw Barkley Play When Healthy and Prime

Charles Barkley was the Master of the Inside the 3-Point Line Game.

The Best Mid Range and Post Game Among All PFs and Never a Ball Hogg Like Many Others:

21.6 PPG on 12.9 Two-Point FGAs PG and a Two-Point FG% of 58.13%

22.5 PPG on 14.5 Two-Point FGAs PG and a Two-Point FG% of 55.13%


Had he not missed like a thousand 3s that might matter.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Barkley>Malone and Dirk

A single championship difference between Dirk and Barkley is not enough to forget all the failures Dirk had with stacked teams. If a championship was enough to put him above Barkley and Malone, then what the heck are Bird and Wilt doing above Kobe, Shaq, and Duncan? Why isn't Bill Russell at least top 2 and Lebron almost top 10?? Then championships should help Robert Horry jump to at least top 50, right?

Championships are a great accomplishment that should be considered, but so are longevity, consistency, level of competition, rules and pace, skill-set and productivity, athleticism, health, and I would say that three other things should be considered in these type of evaluations: team-chemistry, character, and development or growth.

Because team-chemistry defines how a player was a factor not only during games statistically, but also how he exemplified leadership and promoted a winning mentality to others. Character defines the type of professional that a player strives to be, the type of effort a player gives on and off the court, almost like a visual measurement of a player's competitiveness. If a player fulfilled his potential, exceeded the expectations, and made the most out any situation in his career, then he grew into the best player he could possibly become, and that not only shows character, but straight up "love" for the game.


What stacked team has Dirk played on the last few seasons?

[howlin_wolf]

Dirk Nowitzki.

[East_Stone_Ya]

Karl Malone:banana:

[oolalaa]

It's way too late for this now, but you (Deuce) should have mandated that each voter give at least a couple of paragraphs of reasoning for their choice. That'll bring back the intelligent/thoughtful posters and cutail the ignorant and/or trolls. The mods should then sticky it so that we all can bask in the collective wisdom of ISH :D

Again, too late now. Maybe next year.

[Coffee Black]

Elgin Baylor

[Horatio33]

John Havlicek.

[eurobum]

Isaiah Thomas


this has gone on for too long now. isiah thomas is his name.

[Mirko Cro Cop]

Dirk Nowitzki

NBA champion (2x finals appearance)
Finals MVP
MVP

Led the Mavs to 11 straight 50+ win seasons and led some of the shittiest line-ups to the western conf and finals.

[goldcrow]

Dirk Nowitzki.

[Colbertnation64]

Barkley should not be getting ranked in front of Karl Malone, George Mikan, Baylor, or Cousy.


I'll vote Baylor.

[Colbertnation64]

It's way too late for this now, but you (Deuce) should have mandated that each voter give at least a couple of paragraphs of reasoning for their choice. That'll bring back the intelligent/thoughtful posters and cutail the ignorant and/or trolls. The mods should then sticky it so that we all can bask in the collective wisdom of ISH :D

Again, too late now. Maybe next year.
Honestly...we should just start over and do that haha.

[KG215]

:applause: Sadly We are Few that Saw Barkley Play When Healthy and Prime

Charles Barkley was the Master of the Inside the 3-Point Line Game.

The Best Mid Range and Post Game Among All PFs and Never a Ball Hogg Like Many Others:

21.6 PPG on 12.9 Two-Point FGAs PG and a Two-Point FG% of 58.13%

22.5 PPG on 14.5 Two-Point FGAs PG and a Two-Point FG% of 55.13%



Career from 3P: 538/2020

You can't just ignore that. It's not like he only shot a few hundred threes and shot a low percentage. He shot more than 2000 of the damn things and missed almost 1,500 of them. From '86-'87 through '96-'97 he attempted 1,804 per game, which comes out to 164 per season, and 2.3 3PA per game. He was shooting them too frequently in his prime and at his peak to just completely ignore it.

[Round Mound]

Career from 3P: 538/2020

You can't just ignore that. It's not like he only shot a few hundred threes and shot a low percentage. He shot more than 2000 of the damn things and missed almost 1,500 of them. From '86-'87 through '96-'97 he attempted 1,804 per game, which comes out to 164 per season, and 2.3 3PA per game. He was shooting them too frequently in his prime and at his peak to just completely ignore it.

Still doesn`t Change the Fact that Barkley was the Best Pure Scoring PF at Over 20 PPG on LESS ATTEMPTS than Malone, Garnett or Duncan.

No Other PF Dominated Inside The 3-Point Line; Mid Range and Post Region More than Barkley.

Only PF that Ranks Close In Those Terms was Kevin McHale...Although Benefited from Bird`s Double Teaming and Passing Alot.

[Deuce Bigalow]

#17 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops Voting

12- Karl Malone
10- Charles Barkley
9- Elgin Baylor
7- Dirk Nowitzki
6- Isiah Thomas
2- Scottie Pippen
1- David Robinson
1- Rick Barry
1- John Havlicek

[Raz]

John Havlicek is being seriously underrated here.

All-Star Games
1966 NBA
1967 NBA
1968 NBA
1969 NBA
1970 NBA
1971 NBA
1972 NBA
1973 NBA
1974 NBA
1975 NBA
1976 NBA
1977 NBA
1978 NBA

Honors
1960-61 NCAA AP All-America (3rd)
1961-62 NCAA AP All-America (2nd)
1962-63 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
1963-64 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
1965-66 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
1967-68 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
1968-69 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
1968-69 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
1969-70 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
1969-70 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
1970-71 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
1970-71 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1971-72 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
1971-72 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1972-73 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
1972-73 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1973-74 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
1973-74 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1974-75 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
1974-75 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
1975-76 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
1975-76 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

Championships
1963 Boston Celtics
1964 Boston Celtics
1965 Boston Celtics
1966 Boston Celtics
1968 Boston Celtics
1969 Boston Celtics
1974 Boston Celtics
1976 Boston Celtics

Awards
1973-74 NBA Finals MVP

12th all-time in scoring
9th all-time in minutes
63rd all-time in rebounds
28th all-time in assists

[Round Mound]

Current Results

12- Karl Malone
9- Charles Barkley
8- Elgin Baylor
7- Dirk Nowitzki
6- Isiah Thomas
2- Scottie Pippen
1- David Robinson
1- Rick Barry
1- John Havlicek

This is Why ISH Is Laughable and Sad :facepalm :rolleyes: ...Too Many Kiddos Like Longevity Over Dominance, Efficiency and Impact. :wtf:

No Other PF Dominated the Mid Range and Post Region More Than Barkley While Being the Most Doubled Player Since Shaq. That, While Recieving More Defensive Rotations and Destroying Zone Defense than Any Other Player Ever

Malone as a "Better Scorer" Is LAUGHABLE (especially in the Play-Offs). He Shot More That is Why He Scored More. He Was Never as Efficient as Barkley was Inside the 3-Point Line...Even as He Got Older. Never, Ever.

Season

Barkley shot 58.13% Two-Point FG at 21.6 PPG on 12.9...Two Point FGAs Pg (Season)

Malone shot 51.9% Two-Point FG FG at 24.7 PPG on 17.5...Two-Point FGAs PG PG (Season)

Play-Offs: "Malone Shot Over 50% For Only 3 Play-Off Runs":

Barkley shot 55.13% FG at 22.5 PPG on 14.5 ...Two-Point FGAs PG (Play-Offs)

Malone shot 46.6% Two-Point FG at 24.6 PPG on 19.3...Two-Point FGAs PG (Play-Offs)

Barkley was a Way Superior Scorer

[kurple]

we're not comparing peaks.. but careers

[Round Mound]

we're not comparing peaks.. but careers

Those Stats Have Nothing to Do With Peaks but Actually Whole Careers In Terms of Mid Range and Post Range Scoring.

[kurple]

cool. but basketball isnt all about mid-range and post scoring stats

[Round Mound]

cool. but basketball isnt all about mid-range and post scoring stats

True..There is Alot More Things...In Which Barkley Was Better than Malone at Most and Impacting the Game:

-Scoring With High Efficiency
-Recieving More Double Teams and Defensive Rotations
-Being Called the Zone Buster
-Needing Rule Change (5 Second Back to the Basket Rule-Anti Barkley)
-Game Creating and Passing
-Rebounding
-Floor D and Help D: Barkley the Superior Stealer and Shot Blocker.
-Having Big Games in the Play-Offs.
-Being Clutcher

etc

Only Things Malone has Over Barkley was FT Shooting and Man to Man Defense (But he was No Garnett or Duncan)

Barkley Was Better at More Things Than Malone Was Better Than Barkley At.

[Snoop_Cat]

Karl Malone NEEDED John Stockton. I forget the number but the assisted basket percentage of Malone's shots was remarkably high. Not to mention his epic level of choking.....


for me it comes down to Barkley, Hondo and Baylor.

I'll vote for Baylor.

[SilkkTheShocker]

True..There is Alot More Things...In Which Barkley Was Better than Malone at Most and Impacting the Game:

-Scoring With High Efficiency
-Recieving More Double Teams and Defensive Rotations
-Being Called the Zone Buster
-Needing Rule Change (5 Second Back to the Basket Rule-Anti Barkley)
-Game Creating and Passing
-Rebounding
-Floor D and Help D: Barkley the Superior Stealer and Shot Blocker.
-Having Big Games in the Play-Offs.
-Being Clutcher

etc

Only Things Malone has Over Barkley was FT Shooting and Man to Man Defense (But he was No Garnett or Duncan)

Barkley Was Better at More Things Than Malone Was Better Than Barkley At.


I don't agree with Barkley being top 10, but respect your research/knowledge of this stuff. :cheers:

[Round Mound]

I don't agree with Barkley being top 10, but respect your research/knowledge of this stuff. :cheers:

Stat Wise Barkley is a Top 10 All Time. And I Don`t Mean Raw Stats but Broken Down Stats or Analysis Stats...Which Acredit For Not What He Wan`t or Like But What Really Happened. Remember, Not What We Like

See Barkley Was Top 10 All Time in

EFF
PER
+/-
WS Per 48 Minutes
Shot Made/Missed Diferential etc

Infact Only Michael Jordan and Barkley are All Top 10 In All Those Broken Down Stats. That Says Alot About Barkley`s Level When Healthy and Prime

:cheers:

[SilkkTheShocker]

Stat Wise Barkley is a Top 10 All Time. And I Don`t Mean Raw Stats but Broken Down Stats or Analysis Stats...Which Acredit For Not What He Wan`t or Like But What Really Happened. Remember, Not What We Like

See Barkley Was Top 10 All Time in

EFF
PER
+/-
WS Per 48 Minutes
Shot Made/Missed Diferential etc

Infact Only Michael Jordan and Barkley are All Top 10 In All Those Broken Down Stats. That Says Alot About Barkley`s Level When Healthy and Prime

:cheers:


That definitely helps his case more. For the record, I don't hold it against for not having a ring. I just thought his prime was short than a lot of the guys on the top 10.

[Round Mound]

That definitely helps his case more. For the record, I don't hold it against for not having a ring. I just thought his prime was short than a lot of the guys on the top 10.

[B]Well Stats Don

[alenleomessi]

Charles Barkley