Better near quadruple-double performance in NBA Finals?

[Odinn]

Bill Walton, 1977 Finals Game 6
20 points 23 rebounds 7 assists 8 blocks - 8/15fg 4/5ft

Shaquille O'Neal, 2001 Finals Game 2
28 points 20 rebounds 9 assists 8 blocks - 12/19fg 4/10ft

Tim Duncan, 2003 Finals Game 6
21 points 20 rebounds 10 assists 8 blocks - 9/19fg 3/5ft

[KyrieTheFuture]

Tim Duncan since he was closest

[Freedom Kid7]

Tim>Shaq>Walton

[rmt]

Duncan's performance is closest with a triple-double. Shaq and Walton have double-doubles.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Duncan's performance is closest with a triple-double. Shaq and Walton have double-doubles.
So just because Duncan had 1 more assist, while Shaq had the same of everything else +7 more points than Duncan, Duncan's was better?

7 points > 1 assist

[rmt]

So just because Duncan had 1 more assist, while Shaq had the same of everything else +7 more points than Duncan, Duncan's was better?

7 points > 1 assist

You are certainly entitled to your OPINION, but it is a FACT that Duncan's is a triple-double while Shaq's and Walton's are double-doubles.

[pauk]

Shaq > Duncan > Walton

[oolalaa]

It's clearly Shaq's. After this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKICLZfKMG0 happened in game 1, the Sixers were practically forced to double team, and he proceeded to pick them apart. It was beautiful to watch. He was incredibly underrated as an all round player at his peak.

[Odinn]

It's clearly Shaq's. After this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKICLZfKMG0 happened in game 1, the Sixers were practically forced to double team, and he proceeded to pick them apart. It was beautiful to watch. He was incredibly underrated as an all round player at his peak.
As for drawing the attention and double teams, Duncan's game 6 and Shaq's game 2 pretty similar.

[Deuce Bigalow]

You are certainly entitled to your OPINION, but it is a FACT that Duncan's is a triple-double while Shaq's and Walton's are double-doubles.
It's a FACT that Shaq had 7 more points, same rebounds, 1 less assist, same blocks, more FG made on same attempts.

[TheGreatBlaze]

Bill Walton, 1977 Finals Game 6
20 points 23 rebounds 7 assists 8 blocks - 8/15fg 4/5ft

Shaquille O'Neal, 2001 Finals Game 2
28 points 20 rebounds 9 assists 8 blocks - 12/19fg 4/10ft

Tim Duncan, 2003 Finals Game 6
21 points 20 rebounds 10 assists 8 blocks - 9/19fg 3/5ft
Walton, he did it in a closeout game and shot better than Duncan.

[Gabuyaux]

I had to double take when I saw they each had +20 rebounds.

[rmt]

Walton, he did it in a closeout game and shot better than Duncan.

Duncan's was also a closeout game or do you mean closeout game vs Shaq's game 2?

[shadow]

Shaq's easily. Duncan had the worst FG% and accounted for less points (assists+points) Just because he had an official triple double doesn't make it a better performance imo.

[NumberSix]

Shaq > rest

He sails through the sky with fire of the dragons and walks through the trees as they kneel beneath his knees.

[DatAsh]

Why are people so fascinated with a triple double?

No one in their right mind would say that 1 ast > 7 points on better efficiency if it weren't for that ast happening to be number ten. I've never seen someone claim that 20/9/9 is better than 30/8/8, but I'm almost certain there'd be people on here saying that 20/10/10 is better than 30/9/9 just because it's a triple double.

Just looking at those stat lines, Shaq's is considerably better than the other two, but all three are impressive in their own right.

[bmd]

Why are people so fascinated with a triple double?

No one in their right mind would say that 1 ast > 7 points on better efficiency if it weren't for that ast happening to be number ten. I've never seen someone claim that 20/9/9 is better than 30/8/8, but I'm almost certain there'd be people on here that saying 20/10/10 is better than 30/9/9 just because it's a triple double.

Just looking at those stat lines, Shaq's is considerably better than the other two, but all three are impressive in their own right.Exactly.

Triple double is just something "cool" that humans made up. It's "cool" because 3 stats are in double digits. It's cool like when the date December 12, 2012 reads 12/12/12.

There is nothing inherently special about 3 stats being double digits.

In fact... double digits themselves are just something humans made up.

[julizaver]

Unofficialy Wilt Chamberlain had recorded quadruple-double during 1967 NBA Finals against Warriors in Game 2:

- Game 2 - 10 points (4/10 FG, 2/17 FT), 38 rebounds, 10 assists, 10 blocks

and 2 near misses in the same finals:
- Game 1 - 16 points (6/8 FG, 4/9 FT), 33 rebounds, 10 assists, 9 blocks
- Game 4 - 10 points (3/6 FG, 4/9 FT), 27 rebounds, 8 assists, 15 blocks*

*according to his coach A. Hannum Wilt had blocked at least 15 shots

[Pushxx]

I've seen that Walton performance and he was absolutely masterful. It was a systematic work of art.

[riseagainst]

rofl ISH kids are so clueless. "oh just because duncan is the only one with a triple double, he was closer to the quadruple double." kids don't get the point of this thread. Title says which one was more impactful not which was the closest to an arbitrary stat. :roll:

Like Deuce said, Shaq's statlines destroys everyone else's.

[imdaman99]

Most of us obviously haven't seen Waltons game. That was one of Shaqs lower point totals (he usually dominates to the tune of 30+ pts against the east in finals). So based on that I take Duncan's.

[millwad]

Bill Walton, 1977 Finals Game 6
20 points 23 rebounds 7 assists 8 blocks - 8/15fg 4/5ft

Shaquille O'Neal, 2001 Finals Game 2
28 points 20 rebounds 9 assists 8 blocks - 12/19fg 4/10ft

Tim Duncan, 2003 Finals Game 6
21 points 20 rebounds 10 assists 8 blocks - 9/19fg 3/5ft

Shaq, such a freaking beast.. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

28 points with great FG%, 20 rebounds, 9 assists and 8 blocks is beyond amazing.

Walton and Duncan's are crazy impressive as well but Shaq scored more with better FG%.

[OmniStrife]

Dayum! Shaq even made 4 of his 10 FTs!!

[Odinn]

At least you could try to access entire box-scores if you do not remember well. I mean, thread is like 7 points vs. 1 assist but noone hasn't talked about their matchups. Shaq held Mutombo on 16 points, 5/12 fg. Duncan held K-Mart on 6 points, 3/23 fg. It's not all about 7 points vs. 1 assist. I'd say Shaq had the better statline but their performances are equal.

[DuMa]

thats what i call impact. none of these guys taking more than 20 shots too.

[Rake2204]

At least you could try to access entire box-scores if you do not remember well. I mean, thread is like 7 points vs. 1 assist but noone hasn't talked about their matchups. Shaq held Mutombo on 16 points, 5/12 fg. Duncan held K-Mart on 6 points, 3/23 fg. It's not all about 7 points vs. 1 assist. I'd say Shaq had the better statline but their performances are equal.I don't know if I'd say Shaquille O'Neal held Dikembe Mutombo to 16 points. In fact, that's a few points above Mutombo's playoff average that year (and he had 13 rebounds that night).

However, I just finished watching game 6 of the 2003 NBA Finals again and as dominant as Tim Duncan was, I had no idea Kenyon Martin shot 3/23 from the field. That's incredible. I also completely forgot about the double digit fourth quarter deficit of which San Antonio had to remove itself. Duncan was absolutely stellar, but it was a heck of a team performance, as I'm not sure San Antonio emerges victorious without Stephen Jackson's three huuuge fourth quarter triples in the midst of a 19-0 run.

Also, having not seen game 6 since it occurred over ten years ago, I had virtually no memory of Tony Parker pretty much not even playing in the fourth quarter due to his ineffectiveness. Speedy Claxton stepped up and went hard. Again, I'm not sure San Antonio wins if not for Speedy's contributions. Duncan made the right passes, but those were clutch hits by a guy (Claxton) who wasn't always known for being a knockdown player.

[Fazotronic]

Duncan's performance is closest with a triple-double. Shaq and Walton have double-doubles.

pointless post is pointless

[Dizzle-2k7]

It's clearly Shaq's. After this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKICLZfKMG0 happened in game 1, the Sixers were practically forced to double team, and he proceeded to pick them apart. It was beautiful to watch. He was incredibly underrated as an all round player at his peak.


my god. shaq was roided out the gills during those years. his intensity, strength, and brute size is unheard of.

[T_L_P]

Whilst Shaq's statline was better, I'd say Duncan's performance was the best of the bunch. Closeout game, plus he held Kenyon Martin to shooting.

[BoutPractice]

Yeah, the fact that it's the title clinching game matters.

[hitmanyr2k]

It's clearly Shaq's. After this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKICLZfKMG0 happened in game 1, the Sixers were practically forced to double team, and he proceeded to pick them apart. It was beautiful to watch. He was incredibly underrated as an all round player at his peak.

How many 300+ pound centers could catch the ball at the foul line, take a couple of dribbles while giving a head/shoulder fake, reverse pivot like a guard/forward and get to the rim? :oldlol: The quickness and coordination of a man that size wasn't fair.

[KirbyPls]

Shaq > rest

He sails through the sky with fire of the dragons and walks through the trees as they kneel beneath his knees.

This.