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PJR
06-30-2012, 10:31 AM
Celtics to re-sign forward Kevin Garnett to a three-year, $34 million deal, sources tell Yahoo! Sports.
10:22am - 30 Jun 12

- Marc Spears

chocolatethunder
06-30-2012, 10:34 AM
They will for sure regret this. It's not that he hasn't earned it but it's because he won't be worth it by the end of the deal. This is the problem with being loyal. It's nice that they did this but I don't think that it'll work out in the end.

Djarum
06-30-2012, 10:34 AM
Great. This means Ray is likely to follow.

AK47DR91
06-30-2012, 10:36 AM
Damn! he's gonna be 39 to play the whole contract out.

Djarum
06-30-2012, 10:36 AM
They will for sure regret this.

Yeah. I would regret bringing the anchor to my defense and the soul of my team back as well. Great point.

R.I.P.
06-30-2012, 10:37 AM
Holy****, you gotta be kidding. 11.3 p.a. for three more years. The Cletics just said **** the new cap rules and now every veteran will ask for ridiculous money. :eek:

Rekindled
06-30-2012, 10:40 AM
Holy****, you gotta be kidding. 11.3 p.a. for three more years. The Cletics just said **** the new cap rules and now every veteran will ask for ridiculous money. :eek:

did every veteran avearge like 20 and 10 in the playoffs?

Orlando Magic
06-30-2012, 10:41 AM
$34 million? You ****ing kidding? LMAO. Celtics are so ****ed. Oh well... one less team to worry about.

AK47DR91
06-30-2012, 10:41 AM
Holy****, you gotta be kidding. 11.3 p.a. for three more years. The Cletics just said **** the new cap rules and now every veteran will ask for ridiculous money. :eek:
what would 11.3 per year equal in the old CBA? i'm guessing $15 mill?

Eric Cartman
06-30-2012, 10:41 AM
Tim Duncan will be getting a similar deal. Not worth it but more of a career achievement contract.

BigTicket
06-30-2012, 10:41 AM
I love KG, hell I named my account after him, but I wouldn't do this deal if I was him, nor would I do it if I was Boston.

For KG he's going to suffer a lot physically over these three years, and he doesn't need the money anyway.

For Boston they're not really title contenders anymore, with or without KG, and this makes it harder to rebuild.

It's a lose-lose in my opinion.

Nash
06-30-2012, 10:45 AM
Wow, thats a lot. Garnett has made almost 300 million during his career, why not give some money up so the team could get better?

LBJDW305
06-30-2012, 10:46 AM
Wow 11.3 million a year for A guy who will be months away from 40 at the end of his contract. Way to go Boston. He played good in the playoffs but he said it himself how much it physically hurts to play...

kurt_rambis
06-30-2012, 10:49 AM
I love KG, hell I named my account after him, but I wouldn't do this deal if I was him, nor would I do it if I was Boston.

For KG he's going to suffer a lot physically over these three years, and he doesn't need the money anyway.

For Boston they're not really title contenders anymore, with or without KG, and this makes it harder to rebuild.

It's a lose-lose in my opinion.
celtics were a game away from the finals.....they're contenders. if allen stays you can't just dismiss them as done. they're all a year older but they also just got 2 young big guys to help shoulder the load

KG still looks really good....strong, surprising lean for an old man. there have been guys that have played at a high level into their late 30's, garnett could definitely be one of them

AlonzoGOAT
06-30-2012, 10:49 AM
what would 11.3 per year equal in the old CBA? i'm guessing $15 mill?


I see him declining even more every season

Locked_Up_Tonight
06-30-2012, 10:50 AM
What a terrible deal for Boston. Next year, Garnett **may** be okay. But the wheels are going to come off at some point. And I bet it will happen a lot closer to the start of the contract than to the end of the contract.

NoGunzJustSkillz
06-30-2012, 10:50 AM
Wow, thats a lot. Garnett has made almost 300 million during his career, why not give some money up so the team could get better?
I'm thinking maybe he'd prefer to retire. You don't know his situation, maybe it's a money grab. I wonder if they could use KG as trade bait a year or 2 into the deal?

bagelred
06-30-2012, 10:52 AM
And people thought KG would retire. :oldlol: Cha-Ching!

Why did Ainge do that? Guess figures the KG/Pierce/Allen trifecta is best option. Nothing better out there.

Locked_Up_Tonight
06-30-2012, 10:52 AM
celtics were a game away from the finals.....they're contenders. if allen stays you can't just dismiss them as done. they're all a year older but they also just got 2 young big guys to help shoulder the load

Ugh.. They played the Hawks and the 76ers to make it to the ECFs. And in the ECFs they got too play against a Heat squad that was missing one of their Big 3 for most of the series.

They aren't contenders.

dbugz
06-30-2012, 10:55 AM
I love KG but damn didn't like this deal. :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

AlonzoGOAT
06-30-2012, 10:55 AM
Ugh.. They played the Hawks and the 76ers to make it to the ECFs. And in the ECFs they got too play against a Heat squad that was missing one of their Big 3 for most of the series.

They aren't contenders.


This lol

pegasus
06-30-2012, 10:56 AM
Ugh.. They played the Hawks and the 76ers to make it to the ECFs. And in the ECFs they got too play against a Heat squad that was missing one of their Big 3 for most of the series.

They aren't contenders.
Ant the Celtics were perfectly healthy and not missing any key players.

b1imtf
06-30-2012, 10:58 AM
Ant the Celtics were perfectly healthy and not missing any key players.
:applause:

kurt_rambis
06-30-2012, 10:58 AM
Ugh.. They played the Hawks and the 76ers to make it to the ECFs. And in the ECFs they got too play against a Heat squad that was missing one of their Big 3 for most of the series.

They aren't contenders.

they still came close to beating a team with the greatest player in the world on it. and who else is there in the east? the bulls are a huge question mark, new york isn't close to being contenders....pacers, hawks, sixers? the celtics are better than them. all that leaves is the heat. if you're favored to go to the conference finals you're a legit contender

Locked_Up_Tonight
06-30-2012, 11:02 AM
they still came close to beating a team with the greatest player in the world on it. and who else is there in the east? the bulls are a huge question mark, new york aren't close to being contenders....pacers, hawks, sixers? the celtics are better than them. all that leaves is the heat. if you're favored to go to the conference finals you're a legit contender.

Celtics may be better than the other crap in the East but it doesn't make them a contender. Uh, look... dog sh*t smell is not as bad as cat sh*t. So? It's still sh*t. And the East besides Miami is crap.

Every playoff tesm in the West could have been in the ECFs as well last year with the draw that Boston got.

On top of that, their 3 out of their 4 best players are declining rapidly. And have no "young" talent to really replace them.

nbarumorz
06-30-2012, 11:06 AM
Ant the Celtics were perfectly healthy and not missing any key players.

+1. Healthy Bradley would've put them in the Finals no doubt in my mind.

As for KG, this deal is just too long...the money is accurate for next -- he deserves around 10M for next year but for the next THREE years? Ugh...

Devil's Advocate time though, seeing most people are looking at this as a lose-lose deal:

1.) KG plays b-ball. He doesn't do anything else. Not interested in fame or acting in movies, or announcing. Nope. Just loves to ball and that's all he does.

2.) He will be a fantastic 2nd coach for Sullinger and Melo. Both of them could benefit from extra motivation and KG will certainly provide that.

3.) If his minutes are kept down he can be productive all three years. That means he can't average 31MPG next year. 22-26 MPG seems like a good, reachable number. Also lets Sullinger play a lot without the Celtics needing him to perform right away.

nbarumorz
06-30-2012, 11:09 AM
On top of that, their 3 out of their 4 best players are declining rapidly. And have no "young" talent to really replace them.

Rondo, Bradley, Sullinger, Melo, and Jeff Green are all young talent.

Statistically, KG and Pierce actually have improved from year-to-year the last 3 years in an upward trend so to say they are rapidly declining is beyond brash.

EDIT: Also if you think Allen is a better player than Bradley you clearly haven't watched a lot of Celtics basketball. So I wouldn't call Allen one of their "4 best players"

Kevin_Garnett_5
06-30-2012, 11:10 AM
Ugh.. They played the Hawks and the 76ers to make it to the ECFs. And in the ECFs they got too play against a Heat squad that was missing one of their Big 3 for most of the series.

They aren't contenders.
The Celtics had 4 rotation players out for the season and two of their top 4 players playing hurt (actually three, since KG is always playing hurt).

Kevin_Garnett_5
06-30-2012, 11:11 AM
Celtics may be better than the other crap in the East but it doesn't make them a contender. Uh, look... dog sh*t smell is not as bad as cat sh*t. So? It's still sh*t. And the East besides Miami is crap.

Every playoff tesm in the West could have been in the ECFs as well last year with the draw that Boston got.

On top of that, their 3 out of their 4 best players are declining rapidly. And have no "young" talent to really replace them.
Yet the Celtics without a huge part of their rotation fared much better against the Heat than the team that came out of the "mighty West". :oldlol:

El Kabong
06-30-2012, 11:12 AM
You'd hope they put a team option or a cheap buyout or something on the last year so he'll expire at the same time as Pierce.

nbarumorz
06-30-2012, 11:15 AM
Allen is almost definite to return as well b/c KG is coming back.

Meticode
06-30-2012, 11:17 AM
Good deal for Garnett, bad deal for Celtics I think. I can understand why they do it though. Although if I was the Celtics I'd perfer a year-by-year contact.

I'm glad he's still around though. I didn't want him to retire yet.

Maybe Garnett should get that blood spinny thingy done for his knees?

IBLEEDGREEN20
06-30-2012, 11:18 AM
Celts have money now to get an oj mayo type player as well.. I think this is a great move... celts are going to be nasty in the paint next season with sullinger and kg. Brutal.

dbugz
06-30-2012, 11:23 AM
I just hope Sully will contribute right away. His rebounding prowess will be surely needed on this team.

Celtics also made a qualifying offer to Stiemer already.

So Cs roster looks like this now


KG/Stiemer/Melo
Sully/JJJ
PP/Green (still questionable)
Bradley/Moore/Allen (still questionable)
Rondo

I'm hoping that Bass will still re-sign with the Cs.

Dagouch
06-30-2012, 11:24 AM
This is a lot.

Are the Celtics thinking maybe he's good for at least 2 years and maybe use the 3rd year as an expiring contract to possibly trade to another team? That's the only way I can seem them doing this? Thoughts?

nbarumorz
06-30-2012, 11:24 AM
Celts have money now to get an oj mayo type player as well.. I think this is a great move... celts are going to be nasty in the paint next season with sullinger and kg. Brutal.

I don't know how much $$$ they will have left after they re-sign Allen and Jeff Green, but I think they have other needs to address.

Like getting a legit 7-footer that can play right now would be a priority. Chris Kaman comes to mind as a reasonably-priced rental they could go after. So that gives them this as their roster:

PG Rondo
SG Bradley, Allen, Moore
SF Pierce, Green, Joseph
PF Garnett, Sullinger, JaJuan
C Kaman, Fab Melo, Stiemsma

Still think they could use a backup PG before they go after Mayo as well.

D-Rose
06-30-2012, 11:24 AM
If they continue to limit his minutes as the deal goes on, they can get the most out of him...but this is like squeezing the very last bit of the toothpaste out, there's not a whole lot left!

Kevin_Gamble
06-30-2012, 11:25 AM
We are not talking about some ordinary player. KG's a freak athlete with a great basketball mind, and barring inury he'll be an above-average NBA player for the life of the contract.

Figlo
06-30-2012, 11:26 AM
This sucks, why would they even pay him this much!

I wanted to see KG/TD the two greatest power forwards of this era ending their career on the same team

Kevin_Garnett_5
06-30-2012, 11:29 AM
Hopefully they can resign Jeff Green next.

dazzer87
06-30-2012, 11:31 AM
Allen is almost definite to return as well b/c KG is coming back.


It will be funny if Allen still go and sign with Heats.......

dbugz
06-30-2012, 11:34 AM
Hopefully they can resign Jeff Green next.


Didn't like this kid but his versatility to play 2-4 positions will be a great help for the Cs plus wing players for this year free agency is kinda weak.

Lakers_Kobe_Fan
06-30-2012, 11:34 AM
I bet the 3rd is team option...buy just like kobe's ...this is a thank u deal

They will give same deal to ray allen

PJR
06-30-2012, 11:35 AM
I don't believe Ainge wants Ray Allen back. He tried to trade him at the deadline, and Boston has shown interest in Mayo, and Jamal Crawford. They want to go younger in the backcourt.

SilkkTheShocker
06-30-2012, 11:36 AM
Allen is almost definite to return as well b/c KG is coming back.


Ray isn't coming back. He wants to win a few more championships before he retires.

Meticode
06-30-2012, 11:38 AM
Overall this is a great move if Allen comes back or if they get someone adequate to replace Allen. I feel the Celtics can make one more good push if they're all healthy. Hopefully Jared Sullinger will be a sleeper pick and have an impact similar to maybe DeJuan Blair or maybe better?

We will see.

bagelred
06-30-2012, 11:39 AM
I don't believe Ainge wants Ray Allen back. He tried to trade him at the deadline, and Boston has shown interest in Mayo, and Jamal Crawford. They want to go younger in the backcourt.

Wait....KG/Pierce/Allen are allowed to be on separate teams? :wtf:

macpierce
06-30-2012, 11:46 AM
damn....................KG making that dough. Not so sure about this for the celtics

LakersReign
06-30-2012, 12:04 PM
If the rumors about his knee(s) are true, then I don't see how this helps Boston in the long run. IMO, they would be better served looking for a backup to KG at this point.

nbarumorz
06-30-2012, 12:08 PM
I bet the 3rd is team option...buy just like kobe's ...this is a thank u deal

They will give same deal to ray allen

Ray made 10M last year, I doubt they give him 10M again. My guess is 2 yr/12-18M deal

TMT
06-30-2012, 12:12 PM
3 years? I was thinking his body would give up during the 82 game season next year... Unless Doc uses a Tim Duncan resting approach with him. Very surprising.

Faberg
06-30-2012, 12:14 PM
Unless Garnett plans on playing the Center position the entire length of that deal, that contract is going to be regrettable.

ProfessorMurder
06-30-2012, 12:37 PM
Super conflicted.

I'm ecstatic, I f*cking love KG. He's one of my favorite players ever, and he's going to keep playing!

... But 3 years, 11 mill a year? I think two years would be enough and a team option on year 3 would be good.


I'm curious about who else they're going to pick up. I really hope they grab another big. Still hoping for Javale McGee.

DuMa
06-30-2012, 12:41 PM
Good for boston.

tomtucker
06-30-2012, 12:45 PM
One good thing is, we all know they have excellent wheelchairs in Boston.....

TMT
06-30-2012, 12:47 PM
Unless Garnett plans on playing the Center position the entire length of that deal, that contract is going to be regrettable.

At some point (maybe later rather than sooner) Fab Melo will be the starting center, IMO.

Troutfisch
06-30-2012, 12:47 PM
If that's the final number, you gotta believe KG wanted more which shows a little selfishness on his part. At this stage in his career he should realize that loyalty means sacrificing a bit on both sides.

This will only hurt Boston in the long run but Garnett could have another banner year next year so we'll see if they have another run in them without Ray Allen...yeah, I still think he's leaving.

Mr. Incredible
06-30-2012, 12:48 PM
Still can't beat the Champs.

Celtic_Pride
06-30-2012, 12:55 PM
First of all I am thrilled that KG isn't retiring. He is the soul of the team and Celtics have no chance to be a contender without him! Also his presence will have a tremendous impact on Sullinger and Fab Melo!

2 year deal would have been perfect as he can ride out his contract with Pierce but well...

Harison
06-30-2012, 12:56 PM
20/10 DPOY anchor deserves 10 mln. and more, but I'm also surprised about 3 years. 1-2 years deal would seem optimal, for both sides.

Shaq said Garnett was contemplating retiring for a couple of years now, due to intense pain, and he gets pain treatment before each game for a couple of hours (reminds me of Bird). Maybe he is feeling better lately? His improved game suggests it.

In any case, I'm glad KG isnt retiring yet, he still has some basketball left in him, hope Timmy follows the suit :D

TheStarting5ive
06-30-2012, 12:58 PM
3 years seems long, I wold have done 2. I wonder if the last year is a team option?

I have no problem with the money paid considering Marcus Camby who is 38 made 11 million last year.

Welcome back KG. I can breathe a little easier today.

TMT
06-30-2012, 01:02 PM
First of all I am thrilled that KG isn't retiring. He is the soul of the team and Celtics have no chance to be a contender without him! Also his presence will have a tremendous impact on Sullinger and Fab Melo!

2 year deal would have been perfect as he can ride out his contract with Pierce but well...

This. KG on next year's squad will be so much better for the young guys, rather than just throwing them straight into the fire. It wouldn't have been the same with him not coming back. I just hope the guy can stay healthy, maybe lose a few pounds to make it easier on his knees.

Now that he's coming back we'll see what side of Ray Allen comes out. If he still chooses Miami he's in major ring chasing mode.

MisterAmazing
06-30-2012, 01:07 PM
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:rockon: :rockon: :bowdown: :applause: :cheers: :banana: :banana:

hawkfan
06-30-2012, 01:17 PM
3 years seems long, I wold have done 2. I wonder if the last year is a team option?

I have no problem with the money paid considering Marcus Camby who is 38 made 11 million last year.

Welcome back KG. I can breathe a little easier today.

It's 2 years, with a 3rd year as an option. Don't know if it is a player option or team option though.

AMISTILLILL
06-30-2012, 01:26 PM
$34 million? You ****ing kidding? LMAO. Celtics are so ****ed. Oh well... one less team to worry about.

You're an idiot.

...and 'one less team to worry about'? Nobody is worried about your team to begin with. :oldlol:

code green
06-30-2012, 01:36 PM
Yeah, totally wasn't expecting three years. Not only that, I probably would have offered two years and 18 million. Yeah, he could get more elsewhere, but fact is, the guy loves playing for Boston and for Doc. We could have used that to our advantage, but oh well. I'm happy he's back...i think he's got some juice left in those batteries and hopefully we have another surprise season for the team.

And everyone's assuming this makes it clear that we're gonna push for Ray too... I kind of thought the opposite. If you overspend for KG, wouldn't Ray start to want the same treatment? And if we DO resign both of them, how are we going to resign Green and still get a decent Free Agent to sign with us? I think Danny's still got OJ Mayo on the brain and wants to see if Mayo changes his mind about wanting to come here.

AMISTILLILL
06-30-2012, 01:36 PM
LOL @ people griping about this contract. After this signing, Boston has roughly $17 million available to fill out the roster next year and beyond. With veteran guys looking to sign with contenders left and right and legitimate young pieces floating around, Boston will be fine. Why lose a bonafide 20/10 Playoffs performer when there's no basically no 'better' option available to you? Josh Smith isn't coming to Boston. The Celtics don't have the pieces.

Ray's contract coming off the books and not resigning with Boston is the key here. They went from having 3 contracts bursting at the seams to having one inflated contract (Pierce) and two manageable ones (KG, Rondo). KG and Rondo's contracts at $11 million a year are on par for what they do for this team. You won't find two players in the league who can impact a game more without scoring a point... and Boston has both of them.

There isn't a team in the league with cap space and a desire to win who wouldn't pay AT LEAST $11 million a year for KG's services, even at this advanced age. Guaranteed.

If it gets to a point where he can't perform, do you really think KG or Boston will sit around and deal with it until his contract runs out? :rolleyes:

inclinerator
06-30-2012, 01:38 PM
isnt he retiring??

EnoughSaid
06-30-2012, 01:42 PM
This is great for us basketball fans. A few more years to watch the great in action! :rockon: And as other people have brought up, having KG on the team will have a tremendous effect on Melo and Sullinger. Good stuff for the Celtics.

NoGunzJustSkillz
06-30-2012, 01:46 PM
LOL @ people griping about this contract. After this signing, Boston has roughly $17 million available to fill out the roster next year and beyond. With veteran guys looking to sign with contenders left and right and legitimate young pieces floating around, Boston will be fine. Why lose a bonafide 20/10 Playoffs performer when there's no basically no 'better' option available to you? Josh Smith isn't coming to Boston. The Celtics don't have the pieces.

Ray's contract coming off the books and not resigning with Boston is the key here. They went from having 3 contracts bursting at the seams to having one inflated contract (Pierce) and two manageable ones (KG, Rondo). KG and Rondo's contracts at $11 million a year are on par for what they do for this team. You won't find two players in the league who can impact a game more without scoring a point... and Boston has both of them.

There isn't a team in the league with cap space and a desire to win who wouldn't pay AT LEAST $11 million a year for KG's services, even at this advanced age. Guaranteed.

If it gets to a point where he can't perform, do you really think KG or Boston will sit around and deal with it until his contract runs out? :rolleyes:
what does this have to do with boston? you can't possibly think they are contenders at this point. and do you really think kg is gonna retire with $11 mill a year coming to him? not happening. btw, i like the signing, only if the 3rd year is a team option.

swi7ch
06-30-2012, 01:47 PM
31 mil :roll:

stallionaire
06-30-2012, 01:48 PM
Lol Boston so stupid.

All Net
06-30-2012, 01:54 PM
Glad to see KG isn't retiring but that contract is abit stupid.

longtime lurker
06-30-2012, 01:56 PM
Nice to see all the closet Heat fans in this thread. I would have gone with a 3 year 8 million per year deal. Which leaves cap space to resign Green or pick up OJ Mayo plus another piece. Celtics need athleticism at the wings in the worst way possible. I don't see any other team offering Garnett big money so they kind of outbid themselves in this process.

AMISTILLILL
06-30-2012, 01:59 PM
what does this have to do with boston? you can't possibly think they are contenders at this point. and do you really think kg is gonna retire with $11 mill a year coming to him? not happening. btw, i like the signing, only if the 3rd year is a team option.

What about KG has EVER indicated that he'd be the type of player who leans a franchise over a barrel for money? You're reaching.

If the guy can't stay on the floor or succumbs to injuries, like this peanut gallery of people who would still take him on their team for this contract suggest, he isn't going to keep Boston on the hook for his whole contract. It's not a stretch to assume that. He's already made close to $300 million in his career, dude.

AMISTILLILL
06-30-2012, 02:01 PM
Lol Boston so stupid.

LOL @ this clown. Pick and prod at the choices of other franchises when you back a team that doesn't stockpile PG's and forwards like they're preparing for an atomic blast.

NoGunzJustSkillz
06-30-2012, 02:03 PM
Nice to see all the closet Heat fans in this thread. I would have gone with a 3 year 8 million per year deal. Which leaves cap space to resign Green or pick up OJ Mayo plus another piece. Celtics need athleticism at the wings in the worst way possible. I don't see any other team offering Garnett big money so they kind of outbid themselves in this process.
maybe if they guaranteed that 3rd year. im thinking kg was all set to retire until boston proposed said deal. health>loyalty, $22 mill/2 years (no way boston picks up that 3rd year)>health

stallionaire
06-30-2012, 02:04 PM
LOL @ this clown. Pick and prod at the choices of other franchises when you back a team that doesn't stockpile PG's and forwards like they're preparing for an atomic blast.
You're aware Wolves fans are the biggest Kahn criticizers right? I can make fun of him better than anyone. :roll:

NoGunzJustSkillz
06-30-2012, 02:13 PM
What about KG has EVER indicated that he'd be the type of player who leans a franchise over a barrel for money? You're reaching.

If the guy can't stay on the floor or succumbs to injuries, like this peanut gallery of people who would still take him on their team for this contract suggest, he isn't going to keep Boston on the hook for his whole contract. It's not a stretch to assume that. He's already made close to $300 million in his career, dude.
no health issues, i agree. but at this point, his knees seem shot. i'm not risking further damage unless i'm getting well compensated for it. especially since he already made a sht load. 22 mill is a nice addition to the 300 million you mention.

flipogb
06-30-2012, 02:13 PM
I wont criticize the money , but I call BS on him being able to
" make more somewhere else" . anyone who buys that is an idiot

kNIOKAS
06-30-2012, 02:14 PM
Loving my Celtics and my Garnett :cheers:

JohnnySic
06-30-2012, 02:16 PM
Good. Now get Mayo and sign Green. Then one more big.

Btw, Allen isn't coming back; he's signing with Miami tonight at 12:01 AM.

AK47DR91
06-30-2012, 02:17 PM
As old as Garnett is, I'd rather have him for $11.3 per year for the next 3 seasons than Amare Stoudemire at $18 a year.

AK47DR91
06-30-2012, 02:18 PM
Good. Now get Mayo and sign Green. Then one more big.

Btw, Allen isn't coming back; he's signing with Miami tonight at 12:01 AM.
Who can you get to replace Allen's shooting?

Your backcourt shooting is really weak without him.

AMISTILLILL
06-30-2012, 02:18 PM
As old as Garnett is, I'd rather have him for $11.3 per year for the next seasons than Amare Stoudemire at $18 a year.

Somebody gets it.

BoutPractice
06-30-2012, 02:21 PM
By the end of his contract, he will have played 20 seasons in the NBA, tying Kareem for longevity. That would be extremely impressive.

Mach_3
06-30-2012, 02:22 PM
no health issues, i agree. but at this point, his knees seem shot. i'm not risking further damage unless i'm getting well compensated for it. especially since he already made a sht load. 22 mill is a nice addition to the 300 million you mention.
His knee seems shot? Why would he sign a contract if he knew he wasnt going to last that long that doesnt make sense. And his knee looked fine in last years playoffs+RS


I wish he would have settled for less but the guy is worth every penny, 20/10 centers with that kind of defensive IQ arent just laying around, eapecially if fab and sullinger prove to be worth it we might even be able to slide kevin back to his original position at PF

Kiddlovesnets
06-30-2012, 02:27 PM
Congrats Boston and KG. Once a Celtic, always a Celtic.

AMISTILLILL
06-30-2012, 02:40 PM
Projected Boston Celtics lineup for the 2012-2013 season... a few glaring holes right now...

PG: Rajon Rondo/<free agent signing>/Avery Bradley
SG: Avery Bradley/<free agent signing... Mayo, Terry?>
SF: Paul Pierce/Jeff Green (Ainge probably signs him)/Mickael Pietrus (loves Boston and wants to come back, probably gets resigned)
PF: Kevin Garnett/Jared Sullinger/Jeff Green/JaJuan Johnson
C: <free agent signing>/Fab Melo/Greg Stiemsma (Player Option)

Honestly, I wouldn't mind waiving JJJ because I'm tired of these project players who don't get burn. Unless Doc plans to play him a lot this season, waive him. If they can get Mayo and a decent center, that's not a bad looking lineup. See if guys like DeShawn Stevenson and Grant Hill will sign on the cheap for a shot at another deep playoff run.

LakersForlife
06-30-2012, 02:41 PM
3 more years, i dont see ray sticking arround

roffie
06-30-2012, 02:42 PM
this is a terrible sign... rather let kg walk tbh

dbugz
06-30-2012, 02:43 PM
Projected Boston Celtics lineup for the 2012-2013 season... a few glaring holes right now...

PG: Rajon Rondo/<free agent signing>/Avery Bradley
SG: Avery Bradley/<free agent signing... Mayo, Terry?>
SF: Paul Pierce/Jeff Green (Ainge probably signs him)/Mickael Pietrus (loves Boston and wants to come back, probably gets resigned)
PF: Kevin Garnett/Jared Sullinger/Jeff Green/JaJuan Johnson
C: <free agent signing>/Fab Melo/Greg Stiemsma (Player Option)

Honestly, I wouldn't mind waiving JJJ because I'm tired of these project players who don't get burn. Unless Doc plans to play him a lot this season, waive him. If they can get Mayo and a decent center, that's not a bad looking lineup. See if guys like DeShawn Stevenson and Grant Hill will sign on the cheap for a shot at another deep playoff run.


Green is a RFA, question is will Green wants to play with us again? for sure other teams will also try to acquire him.

Lakers_Kobe_Fan
06-30-2012, 02:43 PM
Projected Boston Celtics lineup for the 2012-2013 season... a few glaring holes right now...

PG: Rajon Rondo/<free agent signing>/Avery Bradley
SG: Avery Bradley/<free agent signing... Mayo, Terry?>
SF: Paul Pierce/Jeff Green (Ainge probably signs him)/Mickael Pietrus (loves Boston and wants to come back, probably gets resigned)
PF: Kevin Garnett/Jared Sullinger/Jeff Green/JaJuan Johnson
C: <free agent signing>/Fab Melo/Greg Stiemsma (Player Option)

Honestly, I wouldn't mind waiving JJJ because I'm tired of these project players who don't get burn. Unless Doc plans to play him a lot this season, waive him. If they can get Mayo and a decent center, that's not a bad looking lineup. See if guys like DeShawn Stevenson and Grant Hill will sign on the cheap for a shot at another deep playoff run.

they can sign Kaman to a deal to get that center spot...fab melo is good at back up c

They can sign Ray Allen to a deal to be backup and be a bench scorer like terry/manu/harden

that team has a good chance to knock off Heat next year in my opinion...

KG should be only playing 30mins if they want to keep him fresh in playoffs...

AMISTILLILL
06-30-2012, 02:46 PM
they can sign Kaman to a deal to get that center spot...fab melo is good at back up c

They can sign Ray Allen to a deal to be backup and be a bench scorer like terry/manu/harden

that team has a good chance to knock off Heat next year in my opinion...

KG should be only playing 30mins if they want to keep him fresh in playoffs...

They can't sign Allen or Kamen and still plan to fill out a roster. They have $17 million to work with and only 5 players on the books as of today.

AMISTILLILL
06-30-2012, 02:48 PM
Green is a RFA, question is will Green wants to play with us again? for sure other teams will also try to acquire him.

It's almost a given that Green is a Celtic next season. I'm not even pumped on the kid but Ainge is, for whatever reason. He wants to be a Celtic and the Celtics want him. It just makes too much sense.

There could be teams out there willing to take a shot on a guy with that kind of health problem looming overhead, but I really don't think he'll get too many offers on the open market.

Blue&Orange
06-30-2012, 03:33 PM
Somehow i think this was Boston first offer and KG took it right away.

AMISTILLILL
06-30-2012, 03:37 PM
NBA.com still has this as their main article right now :oldlol:
http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/06/30/is-this-the-end-of-the-road-for-kg/?ls=iref:nbahpt1

HylianNightmare
06-30-2012, 03:39 PM
holy shit

Rolando
06-30-2012, 03:43 PM
I like it.:cheers: :applause:

You are talking about KG here. With a top 20 all time player who is still putting up about 20/10, you simply do not FCK around. Pay the man!

They don't call him "The Big Ticket" for nothing. He's worth every goddamn penny.

BallsOut
06-30-2012, 03:43 PM
I just hope Sully will contribute right away. His rebounding prowess will be surely needed on this team.

Celtics also made a qualifying offer to Stiemer already.

So Cs roster looks like this now


KG/Stiemer/Melo
Sully/JJJ
PP/Green (still questionable)
Bradley/Moore/Allen (still questionable)
Rondo

I'm hoping that Bass will still re-sign with the Cs.


I'm wondering if the Celtics can entice OJ Mayo, Brandon Bass, Earl Watson or Kirk Hinrich, Ray Allen and Grant Hill to sign with them using the remaining 17 mill. This would be a pretty solid team.

PG: Rondo/Watson
SG: Mayo/Bradley/Allen
SF: Pierce/Hill
PF: Bass/Sullinger
C: KG/Melo

AK47DR91
06-30-2012, 03:43 PM
Somehow i think this was Boston first offer and KG took it right away.
Why wouldn't he?

-$11.3 per year
-can still be the best or top 2 player on his team
-the team he won a ring with

Smart signing for Garnett. Is it smart for Boston? Yes, cuz I don't think they want to go on full rebuilding mode yet and there aren't that many PF/C who has as much of an impact as KG.

Like I said earlier, 36+ year old KG for $11.3 per year >>>>> Amare at $18 per year (and I'm a Knicks fan)

leopoldstotch
06-30-2012, 03:46 PM
If Boston plays their cards right, and does what the Spurs do with Duncan where they sit him in 1 of the back to back games, he could have a better shot at lasting the full 3 years. He's going to need it since most likely Boston is going to play 90+ games in each of the next 3 seasons.

Alter Ego
06-30-2012, 03:47 PM
this is a terrible sign... rather let kg walk tbh


Straight disrespect. KOBE is getting nearly 30 for the next 3.
KG for 11, is NOT bad.

What people don't get, is celtics aren't celtics without KG. he's their heart, soul and engine. Emotionally, he has he ability to take this squad to another level. He gets everyone playing on point.

Ive come to really appreciate KG these last playoffs. Guy is a competitor and gives it his all on the floor. I loved his "y'all don't know what you do to me. You guys act like basketball isn't my life. Like I don't put hours into my craft" speech.

I know one thing for sure, KG, I'll be rooting for ya BIG ticket.

Haymaker
06-30-2012, 04:07 PM
I'm wondering if the Celtics can entice OJ Mayo, Brandon Bass, Earl Watson or Kirk Hinrich, Ray Allen and Grant Hill to sign with them using the remaining 17 mill. This would be a pretty solid team.

PG: Rondo/Watson
SG: Mayo/Bradley/Allen
SF: Pierce/Hill
PF: Bass/Sullinger
C: KG/Melo

That would be genius. :applause:

Derka
06-30-2012, 04:43 PM
$11 million per season for one of the game's best ever, even on the tail end of his career, ESPECIALLY after the season he just had? We were one game away from a third trip to the NBA Finals with half the roster playing hurt. Crazier still, we'd have hoisted Banner #18 had we got there.

So long as Kevin Garnett wears that jersey, we're title contenders. That's all I need.

F*ck yes. Looking forward to the rest of this off-season!

AMISTILLILL
06-30-2012, 04:45 PM
That would be genius. :applause:

There's no way Ray Allen resigns with Boston to be a third string two-guard. Ray's days in Boston are most likely up to begin with. Plus Chicago probably exercises their team option on Watson. With Rose likely missing the majority of the season, they'll need to stock up in the back court.

Here is what I would realistically want the Celtics to look like next season:
* Free Agent Signings
* Resigned 2011-2012 Season Players
* Rookie Signings

PG: Rajon Rondo/Kirk Hinrich (2 years/$6 million)/Patty Mills (1 year/$1.2 million)
SG: Avery Bradley/Jason Terry (2 years/$14 million)/DeShawn Stevenson (1 year/$2 million)
SF: Paul Pierce/Jeff Green (2 years/$10 million)/Mickael Pietrus (2 years/$5 million)
PF: Kevin Garnett (3 years/$33 million)/Jeff Green/Jared Sullinger (3 year/$3.3 million)
C: Spencers Hawes (3 years/$18 million)/Fab Melo (2 years/$2 million)/Greg Stiemsma (Player Option, $1 million)
---------------------------------------
Players Waived: JaJuan Johnson

This puts Boston just over $10 million over the cap, paying just $10 million extra in taxes through the 2012-2013 season. With this lineup, they can make a huge push for another ring with a combination of youth and and championship caliber experience. Then, try and deal some of the expirers to get closer to the cap when the 2013-2014 season rolls around.

A lot of people think Kirk Hinrich is a tough sell for the price I'm suggesting, but a lot of those people forget the reason he was making so much to begin with. The guy was signed to a five-year, $47 million dollar extension when he was still delivering the goods in Chicago. A perfect comparison to his situation is Mike Bibby, who was rewarded for his high level of play only a few short years ago but went downhill fast.

Hinrich's play has fallen off considerably and he'd get a great backup role playing for a contender.

Patty Mills is an under-the-radar talent that somebody will take a flyer on and luck out tremendously. Boston would have an incredible player rounding out their PG rotation.

Jason Terry may get a better contract elsewhere, but he probably wants to play for a contender/elite. Boston has the cap space and the opportunity for minutes, with Ray Allen gone and Avery Bradley pushed into the starting lineup. If Bradley's shoulder injuries linger, Terry could find himself in the starting lineup frequently.

Besides being a great defender with championship experience, DeShawn Stevenson still carries the unofficial title of "LeBron Stopper". While I think that's a bit of a stretch, you can't ignore his ability to frustrate LeBron with his hardnosed defense - hell, he's been doing it since LeBron came into the league. While he might be looking for some long term, the guy has to consider his age and realize he just wasted a year of his dwindling career on a bottom-feeder.

Jeff Green signs with Boston because he's been within the teams inner circle, even as RFA, and Ainge loves him. I'm not sold on him, but it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that he's a Celtic. :confusedshrug:

Mickael Pietrus is an excellent defender and can stroke the 3-ball with relative consistency... Boston will need all the perimeter shooting they can get if/when Ray Allen jumps ship.

The biggest stretch of all may be with Spencer Hawes and his desire to sign for a contract of this size. He may want more years and demand more cash per season in a barren landscape of serviceable centers.

EricGordon23
06-30-2012, 04:46 PM
I am glad to hear he resigned with the celtics. I really wasn't expecting 3 years not going to complain though dudes intensity when he plays is 1 of a kind. Congrats K.G

TAZORAC
06-30-2012, 04:47 PM
What are they going to do with Jeff Green? I'd get rid of BASS and BRADLEY.

Wavy Crockett
06-30-2012, 04:51 PM
Should have started rebuilding.

Haymaker
06-30-2012, 04:52 PM
What are they going to do with Jeff Green? I'd get rid of BASS and BRADLEY. Bradley? why in the fukc?! Bass can leave.

All Net
06-30-2012, 04:53 PM
What is the word on green? Expected back next season?

dbugz
06-30-2012, 04:54 PM
I'm wondering if the Celtics can entice OJ Mayo, Brandon Bass, Earl Watson or Kirk Hinrich, Ray Allen and Grant Hill to sign with them using the remaining 17 mill. This would be a pretty solid team.

PG: Rondo/Watson
SG: Mayo/Bradley/Allen
SF: Pierce/Hill
PF: Bass/Sullinger
C: KG/Melo


I'm still not solve with Melo as the back up C. Dude is still raw, no way you put him as KG's backup C.

One more big, another outside shooter and a legit wing defender and I'm good with it.



PG: Rondo/Hinrich
SG: Mayo/Bradley/Stevenson
SF: Pierce/G. Wallace(6th man)
PF: Bass/Sullinger
C: KG/McGee/Melo


Forget about Ray and Green :pimp: :pimp:

AMISTILLILL
06-30-2012, 04:54 PM
For some reason Green's salary proposal for next season won't post, no matter how I edit it. But, his salary would be 2 years/$10 million. Maybe 3 years/$15 million with a team option.

Also, I don't know why people are still proposing KG as a center. He won't play center next season for full games. He likely slides over for spurts with Green at the 4 like they did in 2010-2011.

bdreason
06-30-2012, 04:56 PM
I figured when they drafted Sullinger their plan was to make another run. Expect to see Ray back as well.

Derka
06-30-2012, 04:58 PM
AMISTILL...I didn't want to quote your whole post.

PG: Rajon Rondo/Kirk Hinrich (2 years/$6 million)/Patty Mills (1 year/$1.2 million)
SG: Avery Bradley/Jason Terry (2 years/$14 million)/DeShawn Stevenson (1 year/$2 million)
SF: Paul Pierce/Jeff Green (2 years/$10 million)/Mickael Pietrus (2 years/$5 million)
PF: Kevin Garnett (3 years/$33 million)/Jared Sullinger (3 year/$3.3 million)
C: Spencers Hawes (3 years/$18 million)/Fab Melo (2 years/$2 million)/Greg Stiemsma (Player Option, $1 million)

I have to wonder about Hinrich, Jet and Stevenson actually considering Boston. But who knows?

People have been harping on and on about Kamen and ignoring Spencer Hawes...I think a defensive front with he and KG is pretty potent, plus both can step out and hit the jumper to keep defenders honest.

I give Stiemsma the minutes over Melo to start with, however. We all know that Stiemer's gonna see foul trouble more than once and Melo will find his opportunities. Meanwhile, giving KG some rest to let Sullinger get some burn works for me.

I like this team a lot. Well done, sir.

dbugz
06-30-2012, 05:01 PM
Mickael Pietrus is an excellent defender and can stroke the 3-ball with relative consistency... Boston will need all the perimeter shooting they can get if/when Ray Allen jumps ship.



Excellent defender? More like a stupid defender. He love to commit undisciplined fouls.

Relative consistent shooter? Dude will give you 32% FGA and 22% 3 point shooting in a playoff games.

No more of this dude pls.

AMISTILLILL
06-30-2012, 05:18 PM
Excellent defender? More like a stupid defender. He love to commit undisciplined fouls.

Relative consistent shooter? Dude will give you 32% FGA and 22% 3 point shooting in a playoff games.

No more of this dude pls.

The guy was great in spurts this season. I think as a third string SF he'll do but, as far as expendable players in my suggestion are concerned, he's definitely the one I could live without. Pierce/Green should be enough at the 3, and Stevenson could even slide over if Boston was REALLY in a pinch.

AMISTILLILL
06-30-2012, 05:24 PM
AMISTILL...I didn't want to quote your whole post.

PG: Rajon Rondo/Kirk Hinrich (2 years/$6 million)/Patty Mills (1 year/$1.2 million)
SG: Avery Bradley/Jason Terry (2 years/$14 million)/DeShawn Stevenson (1 year/$2 million)
SF: Paul Pierce/Jeff Green (2 years/$10 million)/Mickael Pietrus (2 years/$5 million)
PF: Kevin Garnett (3 years/$33 million)/Jared Sullinger (3 year/$3.3 million)
C: Spencers Hawes (3 years/$18 million)/Fab Melo (2 years/$2 million)/Greg Stiemsma (Player Option, $1 million)

I have to wonder about Hinrich, Jet and Stevenson actually considering Boston. But who knows?

People have been harping on and on about Kamen and ignoring Spencer Hawes...I think a defensive front with he and KG is pretty potent, plus both can step out and hit the jumper to keep defenders honest.

I give Stiemsma the minutes over Melo to start with, however. We all know that Stiemer's gonna see foul trouble more than once and Melo will find his opportunities. Meanwhile, giving KG some rest to let Sullinger get some burn works for me.

I like this team a lot. Well done, sir.

Yeah, I gave the 2nd string nod to Melo based purely on Stiemsma's proneness for silly fouls. I probably should have penciled KG in at the 5 too, since he can slide over and have Green play the 4 (if Boston resigns Green, that is). Hawes is young anyways, so he could play long stretches without extended spells from the bench.

Guys like Stevenson and Hinrich need to come to terms with reality. They've made their money and their best basketball is behind them. If they were smart, they would sign in Boston and take one last mad dash towards a ring. I doubt too many teams are willing to overspend for Stevenson, and I have a feeling his stint with the Nets will be brief. Considering he only made $2.5 million with NJ/Brooklyn last season and, frankly, I wouldn't be shocked to see them resign Gerald Green and give him whatever minutes Stevenson was getting anyways.

ProfessorMurder
06-30-2012, 05:27 PM
Pietrus was hurt all year you guys. Couldn't really find his spot in the team. Shortened season, missed a bunch of time with his knee, no practice, bad concussion, needs another knee surgery.


If Ray leaves, I'd cream if they can grab Hinrich.

Rondo/Bradley/Kirk :bowdown:

BlackWhiteGreen
06-30-2012, 05:30 PM
Not sure about the length of the deal... but next year we're in a great position. Certainly can't complain if our top 10 is along the lines of

Rondo/Moore
Bradley/FA
Pierce/Green
KG/Sullinger
Wilcox/Melo

We're at $32m for next season, so adding KG at $11m (could be +/- $2m but we'll see) leaves us at $43m. The guaranteed rookies are at about $1m each, so $45m. That gives the Celtics $13m to play with, if estimations of the cap staying the same are true. I think we'll re-sign Green, but not Ray or Bass. Lets say Green gets $5m next year, leaves the Celtics $8m in cap room. Enough to get OJ Mayo, certainly (Wilcox will be available at the minimum due to his heart problem, so we can wait until after other deals) and Dooling with whatever scraps are left.

The roster then looks like this:

Rondo/Dooling/Moore
Bradley/Mayo
Pierce/Green/Joseph
KG/Sullinger/Johnson
Wilcox/Melo/Steimsma

Maybe not a contender on first looks, but think of the matchup problems with a lineup to end games like Rondo/Bradley/Mayo/Pierce/Garnett or Rondo/Bradley/Pierce/Green/Garnett.

AMISTILLILL
06-30-2012, 05:41 PM
Not sure about the length of the deal... but next year we're in a great position. Certainly can't complain if our top 10 is along the lines of

Rondo/Moore
Bradley/FA
Pierce/Green
KG/Sullinger
Wilcox/Melo

We're at $32m for next season, so adding KG at $11m (could be +/- $2m but we'll see) leaves us at $43m. The guaranteed rookies are at about $1m each, so $45m. That gives the Celtics $13m to play with, if estimations of the cap staying the same are true. I think we'll re-sign Green, but not Ray or Bass. Lets say Green gets $5m next year, leaves the Celtics $8m in cap room. Enough to get OJ Mayo, certainly (Wilcox will be available at the minimum due to his heart problem, so we can wait until after other deals) and Dooling with whatever scraps are left.

The roster then looks like this:

Rondo/Dooling/Moore
Bradley/Mayo
Pierce/Green/Joseph
KG/Sullinger/Johnson
Wilcox/Melo/Steimsma

Maybe not a contender on first looks, but think of the matchup problems with a lineup to end games like Rondo/Bradley/Mayo/Pierce/Garnett or Rondo/Bradley/Pierce/Green/Garnett.

I'm all about waiving Johnson, honestly. I would even be willing to let Stiemsma walk if another team put in a bid for him higher than Boston's qualifier if it helped our chances of getting ONE solid starting center and/or bolstering the defense from the starting lineup to the bench (IE: my suggestion :D).

nycelt84
06-30-2012, 06:15 PM
KG just ensured that #5 is going up in the rafters after he retires.

Deuce Bigalow
06-30-2012, 06:49 PM
KG just ensured that #5 is going up in the rafters after he retires.
I think they would've retired his jersey if he retired this season, He's already guaranteed. He brought them a first championship in 2 decades.

CelticBaller
06-30-2012, 07:56 PM
11 a year? fvck the celtics

raprap
06-30-2012, 07:59 PM
I thought KG was gonna retire? I like this deal for the celtics, a little bit overpaid but you will not find a better player for that team. KG cashing in :applause:

BlackWhiteGreen
06-30-2012, 07:59 PM
11 a year? fvck the celtics

If it's a case of KG for 11 a year or Bass for 8, no brainer.

Kews1
06-30-2012, 08:01 PM
i dont think hel decline to much, hel be a good player until he retires. Hel still be a top10 current PF in the league when he retires.

nbarumorz
06-30-2012, 10:13 PM
I think they would've retired his jersey if he retired this season, He's already guaranteed. He brought them a first championship in 2 decades.

I don't know about that. If he retired this year he would've played only 5 seasons with the Celtics. And in only 5 years with the Celtics he won one championship with the help of Allen and Pierce...That's not much to retire him on.

I love KG, don't get me wrong, but if that warrants hanging up his jersey then there soon there won't be any number a player CAN where.

Pushxx
06-30-2012, 10:50 PM
How can people knock this?

He's a center now, like Tim Duncan. TD and KG are too old to play PF consistently. They are perfect as centers.
Tim Duncan deserves and will get a similar contract. $9-12 million a year for 2-3 years.

Centers in this league are ridiculously expensive. Especially centers that create the culture of your team and produce 20/10 in the playoffs and play with 110% energy every minute they are on the floor.

He has made excellent players out of people like Perkins, Big Baby, Stiemsma...I mean...he made a player out of Semih Erden (60th pick in draft) before Erden got a ruined shoulder. Add the fact that the Celtics have four big-man prospects in Sullinger (6'9") and JuJuan Johnson (6'10"), Greg Stiemsma (6'11"), and Fab Melo (7'). KG is the perfect complement to these players.

KG is a mentor, DPOY runner-up, hits mid-range jumpers in his sleep, rebounds, and brings more energy than anybody in the league. He is a culture changer. He is an icon. He is a legend. Also, he's a freak of nature who works infinitely hard to keep his body in amazing shape.

RazorBaLade
06-30-2012, 10:51 PM
kg deserves eveyr penny

Pushxx
07-01-2012, 08:58 AM
With all these crazy contracts being offered today, it's looking like the Celtics got KG for a bargain...

Locked_Up_Tonight
07-01-2012, 09:08 AM
The reason people knock it is because in the 2nd and 3rd year of the deal he will be 38 and 39 respectively.

If it was a 1 year deal or even a 2 year deal it will be completely understandable.

Pushxx
07-01-2012, 09:30 AM
The reason people knock it is because in the 2nd and 3rd year of the deal he will be 38 and 39 respectively.

If it was a 1 year deal or even a 2 year deal it will be completely understandable.

Yeah but not only can he produce enough at that age, but it allows the Celtics to know when he's going to stop playing basketball for any significant amount of money.

This means no more waiting on KG's decision to make draft picks, trades, signings, etc.

Meticode
07-01-2012, 09:30 AM
Is Jeff Green expected to come back this season?

RaininTwos
07-01-2012, 09:31 AM
kg deserves eveyr penny
this

UConnCeltics
07-01-2012, 09:33 AM
Is Jeff Green expected to come back this season?
I would think so, Ainge loves him and he would look like a fool if he traded Perkins and Robinson for Fab Melo.

Pushxx
07-01-2012, 09:35 AM
Is Jeff Green expected to come back this season?

Celtics are prioritizing a scoring SG, but Jeff Green is high on the list.

Faptastrophe
07-01-2012, 09:39 AM
That doesn't surprise me at all. Huge paycut for KG, but still a hefty salary for a guy with his age and mileage. The Celtics desperately need him, and KG seems to really love it in Boston playing with Rondo and Pierce (and of course Doc). There's really nowhere I can say their money is better spent, nor is there really a better fit for KG. I always sort of assumed he'd be signing a 3 year/$30M extension at some point. A couple mil on top is nothing for a guy of KG's historical importance for the organization.

UConnCeltics
07-01-2012, 09:44 AM
Pierce has 2 years left on his contract, and KG can retire after 2 years and still get the money from the third year. Seems likely they will retire together 2 years from now. And I would like Ray to get a 2 year deal, I think it would be proper for them to retire together. Won't happen, though.

Pushxx
07-01-2012, 09:46 AM
Pierce has 2 years left on his contract, and KG can retire after 2 years and still get the money from the third year. Seems likely they will retire together 2 years from now. And I would like Ray to get a 2 year deal, I think it would be proper for them to retire together. Won't happen, though.

Pierce is 34. He will play after his contract is up, despite the retirement buzz. No way Paul Pierce retires at age 36.

Locked_Up_Tonight
07-01-2012, 09:49 AM
Yeah but not only can he produce enough at that age,

No one knows that. And 38-39 year olds are not the model of health in basketball especially when their knee is already shot.

Pushxx
07-01-2012, 09:55 AM
No one knows that. And 38-39 year olds are not the model of health in basketball especially when their knee is already shot.

Kareem, Karl Malone, Hakeem, Parish, Moses Malone, DRob, Ewing...all these guys were able to produce enough around the ages of 37-42.

KG has the best 18-foot jumpshot of any legendary big-man. Even if he averages 12/6 at age 39, he's still worth the money.

Not to mention, KG is basically worth max money next year. He's only getting paid $11 million. That averages out over the 3-years. Look at DeAndre Jordan, Kwame Brown, etc...$11 million is a BARGAIN.

veilside23
07-01-2012, 10:11 AM
people are acting as if kg is over paid.. when you have guys like deandre jordan who has almost the same salary.. but what the only advantage he has over kg is his age.. as well as mcgee...

why not pay the guy for being loyal... to the team.. sure he may only have 2 years left... then let it be..

when guys like rashard lewis is getting more money.. he doesnt have any impact. .. some people are just over reacting because they want kg to be in their team ... :rockon:

Harison
07-01-2012, 10:16 AM
Kareem, Karl Malone, Hakeem, Parish, Moses Malone, DRob, Ewing...all these guys were able to produce enough around the ages of 37-42.

KG has the best 18-foot jumpshot of any legendary big-man. Even if he averages 12/6 at age 39, he's still worth the money.

Not to mention, KG is basically worth max money next year. He's only getting paid $11 million. That averages out over the 3-years. Look at DeAndre Jordan, Kwame Brown, etc...$11 million is a BARGAIN.

Good points. He might be old, but you could count on one hand fingers the players in NBA of Garnett's impact. Therefore 11 mln. is not much indeed.

Locked_Up_Tonight
07-01-2012, 10:18 AM
Kareem, Karl Malone, Hakeem, Parish, Moses Malone, DRob, Ewing...all these guys were able to produce enough around the ages of 37-42.

Every single one of those guys you mentioned... were not playing 82 game seasons at age 19/20.

Pushxx
07-01-2012, 10:41 AM
:roll:
Every single one of those guys you mentioned... were not playing 82 game seasons at age 19/20.

"Mileage on the tires" is a bullshit concept. It's all about how your body ages and how injuries have left their mark on your body.

Not to mention, modern medicine, nutrition, and therapy is like black magic.

upside24
07-01-2012, 01:13 PM
Bad decision imo. KG is declining physically at a rapid rate. He will still be effective with his length and midrange jumper but he will surely miss more and more games each year.

Mach_3
07-01-2012, 01:19 PM
Kareem, Karl Malone, Hakeem, Parish, Moses Malone, DRob, Ewing...all these guys were able to produce enough around the ages of 37-42.

KG has the best 18-foot jumpshot of any legendary big-man. Even if he averages 12/6 at age 39, he's still worth the money.

Not to mention, KG is basically worth max money next year. He's only getting paid $11 million. That averages out over the 3-years. Look at DeAndre Jordan, Kwame Brown, etc...$11 million is a BARGAIN.

Sh1t considering how amazing he his on defense we basically got dude for a bag of chips considering how completely overpaid center are in today's league

Pra
07-01-2012, 01:37 PM
9M a year (27M contract) would of been better imo but with his current deal(11.3M) & if they sign ray ray for 6M a year. According to NBA TV they'll have 8M left in cap room, which will either be Jeff Green or Brandon Bass. Boston Fan's who do you take? Green is obviously younger, but I don't know much about his play!

BallsOut
07-01-2012, 02:16 PM
9M a year (27M contract) would of been better imo but with his current deal(11.3M) & if they sign ray ray for 6M a year. According to NBA TV they'll have 8M left in cap room, which will either be Jeff Green or Brandon Bass. Boston Fan's who do you take? Green is obviously younger, but I don't know much about his play!

8mill is enough for both guys.

AMISTILLILL
07-01-2012, 02:19 PM
Bad decision imo. KG is declining physically at a rapid rate. He will still be effective with his length and midrange jumper but he will surely miss more and more games each year.

Baseless speculation. :rolleyes:

Linspired
07-01-2012, 02:30 PM
3 more of this sh1!!t? good gawd. this is like having 7 more season of 24 which should've ended after 5th season.

JellyBean
07-01-2012, 02:30 PM
:applause: This speaks volumes for the quality of coach Doc is, the faith Danny Angie has, the leadership of the Celtics, and the loyalty that KG has to the Celtics. Man I gotta give props to the Celtics. You don't see that kind of faith from the front office to often. Good job, Celtics.

AMISTILLILL
07-01-2012, 02:31 PM
3 more of this sh1!!t? good gawd. this is like having 7 more season of 24 which should've ended after 5th season.

http://i52.tinypic.com/wt93ic.jpg

PP34Deuce
07-01-2012, 02:49 PM
9M a year (27M contract) would of been better imo but with his current deal(11.3M) & if they sign ray ray for 6M a year. According to NBA TV they'll have 8M left in cap room, which will either be Jeff Green or Brandon Bass. Boston Fan's who do you take? Green is obviously younger, but I don't know much about his play!

jeff green today is a 16ppg 7 rebound athletic sf pf. his veiling can be 21 8 3 and good percentages. i think getting replacement to spell pp is vital. green is legit 6 8 and athletic

Pra
07-01-2012, 03:02 PM
jeff green today is a 16ppg 7 rebound athletic sf pf. his veiling can be 21 8 3 and good percentages. i think getting replacement to spell pp is vital. green is legit 6 8 and athletic

Ah, I see. Thanks for the info, it'll definitely benefit then keeping green to replace Pierce once his time is up.