Lebron's Defense on Carmelo Anthony

[6JamesIsKing]

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Shane Battier Defense on Carmelo Anthony 20FGM-38FGA 56Points = 52FG%

Lebron James Defense on Carmelo Anthony 12FGM-41FGA 31Points = 29FG%

Lebron James is the true defensive player of the Year this year.

Tell me that isn't Elite Defense?

Hopefully the Voters don't screw up with the MVP votes.

[Sarcastic]

DPOY is not based on the post season, and you should see the numbers the top centers put up against Tyson Chandler.

[6JamesIsKing]

DPOY is not based on the post season, and you should see the numbers the top centers put up against Tyson Chandler.


But Lebron is defending the so called "BEST SCORER and the Best Player in the NBA Since April" in the league.

Holding the "Best Scorer in the NBA" to a FG% of 29 deserves a DPOY. I don't care if its postseason or not.

[Miserio]

DPOY is not based on the post season, and you should see the numbers the top centers put up against Tyson Chandler.
Yeah, let's act like in this era of great centers we can compare any of them to Carmelo Anthony as scorers.

[StateOfMind12]

But Lebron is defending the so called "BEST SCORER and the Best Player in the NBA Since April" in the league.
:oldlol:

The best scorer and the best player in the NBA (other than LeBron) is Kevin Durant and we saw what Durant did to him in their first head to head matchup which was a regular season and the DPOY is a regular season award.

Like Sarcastic said, the DPOY is based on regular season play, not post-season play. The DPOY has already been handed out and Chandler won it and deservingly so. LeBron might win a DPOY at some point in his career but not this season.

[6JamesIsKing]

Yeah, let's act like in this era of great centers we can compare any of them to Carmelo Anthony as scorers.


exactly.

How many 20 Point scorers center in the league?

[Jotaro Durant]

props to lbj:applause:
if u think he deserve dpoy over chandler or garnett then u being fanboy:no:

[6JamesIsKing]

:oldlol:

The best scorer and the best player in the NBA (other than LeBron) is Kevin Durant and we saw what Durant did to him in their first head to head matchup which was a regular season and the DPOY is a regular season award.

Like Sarcastic said, the DPOY is based on regular season play, not post-season play. The DPOY has already been handed out and Chandler won it and deservingly so. LeBron might win a DPOY at some point in his career but not this season.

You joking right?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=260054

Everyone on this forum was praising him since his breakout Month of April. Not me though, because I knew Lebron James was going to expose him when the playoffs come around.

This year's DPOY was the worse since 2007 when Marcus Camby won it, while Tim Duncan was the true DPOY

[6JamesIsKing]

I guess all the Knick/and Chuckmelo fan boys already went to sleep.

Haha 29FG%

[Tenchi Ryu]

So what you're basically saying is that the Battier pick-up was pointless
:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

[upside24]

Yeah, let's act like in this era of great centers we can compare any of them to Carmelo Anthony as scorers.
:applause:

[Sarcastic]

But Lebron is defending the so called "BEST SCORER and the Best Player in the NBA Since April" in the league.

Holding the "Best Scorer in the NBA" to a FG% of 29 deserves a DPOY. I don't care if its postseason or not.

The regular season ended in April, no? This is not April anymore, is it?

What part of "regular season award" don't you understand?

[Mr. Incredible]

Mvp>dpoy

[I.R.Beast]

wtach the game.... tonight when it was actually 1 on 1 with LeBron on him he was toching LeBron. Miami been bring help on Melo when lebron has defended him.

[Scoooter]

He's a good defender. Melo did better on him in Game 5, but in the first four he just looked totally outmatched.

Hopefully they'll see each other in the playoffs again so we can get a better read for what's going on.

[6JamesIsKing]

So what you're basically saying is that the Battier pick-up was pointless
:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

he does a nice job with his defensive efforts, but Melo still ate his food. While Lebron made Melo look like a scrub when he defended him.

[PyrrhusX]

But Lebron is defending the so called "BEST SCORER and the Best Player in the NBA Since April" in the league.

Holding the "Best Scorer in the NBA" to a FG% of 29 deserves a DPOY. I don't care if its postseason or not.

Melo? :roll: :roll:

Comeon please.

[SDtotheBay]

Other is better

[keepinitreal]

He matches up better against Carmelo than Durant imo

[bluechox2]

we all know espn is biased...melo torched lebron and when that happens they give that fg to the helper so lebrons stats look good for espn

[6JamesIsKing]

we all know espn is biased...melo torched lebron and when that happens they give that fg to the helper so lebrons stats look good for espn

29%

[6JamesIsKing]

Melo? :roll: :roll:

Comeon please.

That was what I was hearing on this forum.

[selrahc]

lebron plays with starters who play better help defense while battier plays with reserves who dont play as good help defense... this is why it seems like lebron is good defender but he is actually not

[L8kersfan222]

lebron plays with starters who play better help defense while battier plays with reserves who dont play as good help defense... this is why it seems like lebron is good defender but he is actually not
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[blacknapalm]

lebron plays with starters who play better help defense while battier plays with reserves who dont play as good help defense... this is why it seems like lebron is good defender but he is actually not

where's the evidence for this? miami hardly ever doubled melo and melo clearly had an easier time scoring on battier. he also usually scored in iso situations, meaning 1 on 1. it sounds more like an excuse or something you want to believe more than anything else. hell, it's borderline conspiracy theory status in here. suddenly, joel anthony is the worst help defender in the world.

also, miami isn't particularly deep so the argument makes even less sense. spo has been playing eight main players and miller/battier have generally been playing 20 mins or less after game 1. he's been heavily relying on his starters and a real short rotation.

so this bench you speak of? cole, turiaf and jones didn't even play in game 5.

melo did hit some tough shots on lebron today. that shows how good he is. many of those same shots he clanked vs lebron. melo and anybody who is sane would say lebron's D made melo struggle much more than battier's this series

[Miserio]

lebron plays with starters who play better help defense while battier plays with reserves who dont play as good help defense... this is why it seems like lebron is good defender but he is actually not
Disagree. Carmelo raised over Battier countless times in one of one situation.

[NumberSix]

we all know espn is biased...melo torched lebron and when that happens they give that fg to the helper so lebrons stats look good for espn
Oh he sure did. He dropped a HUGE 35 points, and it only took him 31 shots and 4 free throws to do it.

[airchibundo507]

Oh he sure did. He dropped a HUGE 35 points, and it only took him 31 shots and 4 free throws to do it.

15-31 FG. And he jacked up a desperation 3 at the end of one quarter.

[blacknapalm]

15-31 FG. And he jacked up a desperation 3 at the end of one quarter.

and 52-124 for a 42% FG and more TO's than assists in the series

he even disappointed at the FT line. 30-41 for 73.2% when he usually shoots around 80%

[airchibundo507]

and 52-124 for a 42% FG and more TO's than assists in the series

Game 1 the Knicks were unprepared for the excessive Melo fronting and Woodson was slow to make adjustments. Melo was rattled from the start of the game (a trend to begin postseasons).

Game 3 Amar'e was out. Melo was literally the only scoring option and the defense converged on him.

Besides those 2 games, Melo shot 12-26 FG in game 2, 15-29 FG in game 4 and 15-31 FG in game 5. Melo improved as the series progressed. Sure it is somewhat tasteless to pick and choose games from the series, but he had more good games than bad games and you can't deny that he was the only legitimate scoring option on the team.

[arifgokcen]

Game 1 the Knicks were unprepared for the excessive Melo fronting and Woodson was slow to make adjustments. Melo was rattled from the start of the game (a trend to begin postseasons).

Game 3 Amar'e was out. Melo was literally the only scoring option and the defense converged on him.

Besides those 2 games, Melo shot 12-26 FG in game 2, 15-29 FG in game 4 and 15-31 FG in game 5. Melo improved as the series progressed. Sure it is somewhat tasteless to pick and choose games from the series, but he had more good games than bad games and you can't deny that he was the only legitimate scoring option on the team.
So whats the point of this post.You actually think battier is better defender than lebron than ok probably all the coaches and every gm and every player thinks lebron is one of the best defenders and best overall defender in the league.So it actually doesnt matter what you or any other knicks fans or lebron haters think.Move along buddy

Worst part is if you really look for the plays when lebron defended him,miami almost never doubled when lebron defends melo.They didnt double against rose durant et. when lebron is the primary defender.SO .......................

[airchibundo507]

I wasn't taking a stance in the argument.

Obviously LeBron is more aggressive and physically imposing than Battier. He is much better at denying the ball when fronting Melo and thus more effective at forcing Melo out of his comfort zone. LeBron is larger and does a better job of contesting shots. Melo was forced to take fadeaways and off balanced shots late in the series to get off clean looks over LeBron and he managed to drill them.

LeBron is the better defender than Battier, obviously. My point is that Melo is Melo and he can get his more often than not. Let's not pretend Melo didn't light LeBron's ass up for 42 points in the regular season. He struggled early in the series against LeBron because there were psychological factors at work. His airballs early in the series (which were hardly contested by LeBron) were completely uncharacteristic of him and showed that he was rattled by the match-up and not necessarily the defense.

[pauk]

It was excellent indeed..

[arifgokcen]

I wasn't taking a stance in the argument.

Obviously LeBron is more aggressive and physically imposing than Battier. He is much better at denying the ball when fronting Melo and thus more effective at forcing Melo out of his comfort zone. LeBron is larger and does a better job of contesting shots. Melo was forced to take fadeaways and off balanced shots late in the series to get off clean looks over LeBron and he managed to drill them.

LeBron is the better defender than Battier, obviously. My point is that Melo is Melo and he can get his more often than not. Let's not pretend Melo didn't light LeBron's ass up for 42 points in the regular season. He struggled early in the series against LeBron because there were psychological factors at work. His airballs early in the series (which were hardly contested by LeBron) were completely uncharacteristic of him and showed that he was rattled by the match-up and not necessarily the defense.

Hmm ok.My only problem with this post is regular season is not playoffs.Lebron raised his game defensively.Carmelo is still hot however against a defender like lebron especially in playoffs you are not gonna be able to put up the points you do like in regular season.Anyway thats my point

[6JamesIsKing]

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[6JamesIsKing]

I wasn't taking a stance in the argument.

Obviously LeBron is more aggressive and physically imposing than Battier. He is much better at denying the ball when fronting Melo and thus more effective at forcing Melo out of his comfort zone. LeBron is larger and does a better job of contesting shots. Melo was forced to take fadeaways and off balanced shots late in the series to get off clean looks over LeBron and he managed to drill them.

LeBron is the better defender than Battier, obviously. My point is that Melo is Melo and he can get his more often than not. Let's not pretend Melo didn't light LeBron's ass up for 42 points in the regular season. He struggled early in the series against LeBron because there were psychological factors at work. His airballs early in the series (which were hardly contested by LeBron) were completely uncharacteristic of him and showed that he was rattled by the match-up and not necessarily the defense.


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