Adidas is partly to blame for Derrick Rose's injuries.

[nathanjizzle]

the shoes they make are borderline dangerous for professional athletes to wear. There whole light weight shoe campaign there going for is ridiculous. a player of roses athleticism shouldnt be wearing 10oz of cusion as support.

he was actually injured last post season wearing the "crazy lights" against the pacers when he twisted his ankle, and twisted it again a few games later.
Now this has happened. If rose were wearing shoes with alittle bit more cusion, his ACL wouldnt have snapped due to sudden impact to the ground.

sad that both superstars endorsed by adidas are out with injuries that are due to shoe design.

[AMISTILLILL]

Thanks doctor.

[percolator]

dude needs to wear dem reeboks

[BallsOut]

But the shoes made d rose even faster, so fast he became unguardable :confusedshrug:

[Kblaze8855]

Nikes dont seem to have done much for Greg Oden.

[nathanjizzle]

an airsole in his shoe would have prevented the injury:facepalm

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Thanks doctor.
Anybody else notice this clown sits on here 247 making sarcastic comments? Get a fcking life dude.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Nikes dont seem to have done much for Greg Oden.
Great comparison :coleman:

[theaussieguy]

when u look at the injury i just don't know how it occurred, or even how it was avoidable. Looks like any other plant but this time his knee just gave out unfortunately.

[Hittin_Shots]

Anybody else notice this clown sits on here 247 making sarcastic comments? Get a fcking life dude.

Thanks counsellor.

[TeamLAC]

Anybody else notice this clown sits on here 247 making sarcastic comments? Get a fcking life dude.
:biggums:

[EvanW]

OP is being ridiculous. The reason DRose is in this situation is because he played injured all season. And when you play through injuries, this is what happens.

Steph Curry wears Nike's and his ankles haven't been what I'd call durable.

[MMM]

What i've read is that not having enough padding in the heal area allows pressure to be transferred to the tibia instead of the knee which could cause injury.

[AMISTILLILL]

Anybody else notice this clown sits on here 247 making sarcastic comments? Get a fcking life dude.

I guess you choose to ignore the comments of actual substance I post, which comprises probably 85% of my posts. If I've offended your delicate sensibilities, feel free to continue your butt hurt campaign.

[L8k3r5]

Please learn how to use the word THEIR properly.

[Hittin_Shots]

Please learn how to use the word THEIR properly.

Which word where?

[nathanjizzle]

OP is being ridiculous. The reason DRose is in this situation is because he played injured all season. And when you play through injuries, this is what happens.

Steph Curry wears Nike's and his ankles haven't been what I'd call durable.

how do you think he got those injuries in the first place? if you look at the kind of injuries hes had, they were all due to running.

[nathanjizzle]

What i've read is that not having enough padding in the heal area allows pressure to be transferred to the tibia instead of the knee which could cause injury.

exactly....a simple airsole in his shoe would have prevented it. or heavier material that disperses impact better than light weight material.

[Hittin_Shots]

how do you think he got those injuries in the first place? if you look at the kind of injuries hes had, they were all due to running.

There's the problem, we needs get rid of his legs, no more injuries to them then.

[L8k3r5]

Anybody else notice this clown sits on here 247 making sarcastic comments? Get a fcking life dude.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Its obviously making some people mad. He's successfully trolling and probably getting a kick out of it too.

[AMISTILLILL]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Its obviously making some people mad. He's successfully trolling and probably getting a kick out of it too.

I'm just smarter than some of you. Don't sweat it.

[L8k3r5]

Which word where?

the shoes they make are borderline dangerous for professional athletes to wear. There whole light weight shoe campaign there going for is ridiculous. a player of roses athleticism shouldnt be wearing 10oz of cusion as support.

he was actually injured last post season wearing the "crazy lights" against the pacers when he twisted his ankle, and twisted it again a few games later.
Now this has happened. If rose were wearing shoes with alittle bit more cusion, his ACL wouldnt have snapped due to sudden impact to the ground.

sad that both superstars endorsed by adidas are out with injuries that are due to shoe design.
He also spelled cushion wrong too. I just can't take posters seriously who can't f*cking spell :facepalm

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

I guess you choose to ignore the comments of actual substance I post, which comprises probably 85% of my posts. If I've offended your delicate sensibilities, feel free to continue your butt hurt campaign.
lol at you reentering this thread. sick life bro.

[L8k3r5]

I'm just smarter than some of you. Don't sweat it.
I wasn't talking to you smart one. (Notice the arrows pointing up to the quote). I was talking to the clown you were pissing off. :hammerhead:

[nathanjizzle]

He also spelled cushion wrong too. I just can't take posers seriously who can't f*cking spell :facepalm

u mean posters?:roll:

[AMISTILLILL]

lol at you reentering this thread. sick life bro.

I'm watching the Playoffs and posting about it. You have twice as many posts as I do in only 2 more years and have more posts per day. Stay butt hurt.

[L8k3r5]

u mean posters?:roll:
Oh my bad, I just didn't press the t key hard enough. Let me fix that for you.

[nathanjizzle]

L8k3r5 "He also spelled cushion wrong too. I just can't take posers seriously who can't f*cking spell :facepalm


:applause:

[nathanjizzle]

Oh my bad, I just didn't press the t key hard enough. Let me fix that for you.

you even forgot a period.

[thelucifer69]

Jeremy Lin wear Nike.
Iman Shumpert wear Adidas.

The lockout to blame for all injury.

[L8k3r5]

:applause:
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
You caught me in the act. The world is gonna end. Someone get this man an award...

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

I wasn't talking to you smart one. (Notice the arrows pointing up to the quote). I was talking to the clown you were pissing off. :hammerhead:
lol at this geek calling somebody a troll and it was somehow meant as a compliment.

[L8k3r5]

lol at this geek calling somebody a troll and it was somehow meant as a compliment.
:roll: :roll: :roll: At you calling me geek. You're dumbass just doesn't get don't you?

[zizozain]

OP dropped on head as baby

****ing stupid

[nathanjizzle]

:roll: :roll: :roll: At you calling me geek. You're dumbass just doesn't get it* don't you?

your grammar is terrible. and you actually try.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

:roll: :roll: :roll: At you calling me geek. You're dumbass just doesn't get don't you?
Slow down buddy, it's not that important.



He also spelled cushion wrong too. I just can't take posers seriously who can't f*cking spell


lol

[L8k3r5]

Slow down buddy, it's not that important.
I got a bitch pointing out my mistakes now. You want a treat too? :lol

[L8k3r5]

your grammar is terrible. and you actually try.
:no:

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

your grammar is terrible. and you actually try.
dude is seriously owning himself in this thread.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

I got a bitch pointing out my mistakes now. You want a treat too? :lol
Go away little guy, you just sound foolish now.

[L8k3r5]

dude is seriously owning himself in this thread.
:kobe:

[NumberSix]

Honestly, Adidas technology is lightyears behind Nike's. A simple Zoom Air setup and Lunarlon midsole would work wonders for a guy like D.Rose.

[nathanjizzle]

:no:

:kobe:
lol officer grammar scared to type words now.

[tmacattack33]

Wow, I didn't notice that both Dwight and Rose are with Adidas.

I think the OP may actually be correct. Though I've never played with any Adidas shoes, if they are going for a light weight campaign like the OP said, that is just stupid because with bball shoes you need cushion and support over weight.

[L8k3r5]

Go away little guy, you just sound foolish now.
http://dev.officialpsds.com/images/thumbs/Troll-Face-psd62868.png

[L8k3r5]

lol officer grammar scared to type words now.
Never am.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

lol officer grammar scared to type words now.
lmao, i was thinking the same thing.

[L8k3r5]

lmao, i was thinking the same thing.
Look up dumbass.

[nathanjizzle]

Wow, I didn't notice that both Dwight and Rose are with Adidas.

I think the OP may actually be correct. Though I've never played with any Adidas shoes, if they are going for a light weight campaign like the OP said, that is just stupid because with bball shoes you need cushion and support over weight.

yup look at dwights injury and roses injuries..all due to impact from the ground. lower back, knees and ankles...all due to little cushion on impact.

[tmacattack33]

Nikes dont seem to have done much for Greg Oden.

LOL, so one player wearing Nike's (out of probably like 75% of the league) getting injured means they are bad shoes?

Adidas has like 5 starting NBA players wearing their shoes. Two of them are injured. I believe Chauncey Billups may have been wearing them as well ( I just did a quick search and found this page: http://www.lakersuniverse.com/store/nba_basketball_shoes_adidas.htm ). LOL.

[AMISTILLILL]

Now lets count how many players wearing Adidas aren't injured.

You guys are looking for something that isn't there.

[ballup]

Ya, it must be the shoes. People don't realize that humans should be indestructible with the right footwear. And shoe's are always 100% responsible for knee injuries that followed awkward landings.

[NumberSix]

Look at LeBron. He's been wearing sneakers with Air Max bags the past 3 seasons. Dude seems to be handling impact pretty well.

[nathanjizzle]

Ya, it must be the shoes. People don't realize that humans should be indestructible with the right footwear. And shoe's are always 100% responsible for knee injuries that followed awkward landings.

acls arnt torn by awkward landings. its impact to the ground that tears it. if it was because of an awkward landing an mcl or lcl would have torn or sprained with it.

ofcourse humans are not indestructible. but ACL's shouldnt just implode by landing. roses landing wasnt awkward, his knee only looked awkward because it was bent in due to a disconnected acl.

[gasolina]

Look at LeBron. He's been wearing sneakers with Air Max bags the past 3 seasons. Dude seems to be handling impact pretty well.
The same air max bags that caused rondo's ankle to twist horribly some seasons ago. You cant really blame the shoes for injuries like that. It doesnt seem like Rose's shoe gave way.

If people want to nitpick, how about brandon roy, greg oden, michael redd, steph curry? All of them getting hurt during non-lockout seasons? If you go before this year, rose and howard havent missed a lot of time. Its really the schedule thats screwing up the players.

Idk why people who dont wear adidas could even comment on their quality. The three stripes have very nice shoes thats all under $110.

Nike had the zoom air and air max for 10 yrs+ now and havent innovated apart from hyperfuse. Adidas has done leaps and bounds with puremotion, sprint frame, sprint skin, and sprint web.

Nike started the whole lightweight trend, and got beat in their own game. Now they put out that ridiculous kobe 7 with a dangerous separate midsole and say "you cant go TOO light". Guess what, previous kobe shoes were all lighter than the 7' so is Nike admitting those shoes are crap?

Yes i am mad :coleman:

[theaussieguy]

i very highly doubt it was because a lack of cushion. His knee just gave out. Its like the broscience that people eat up thinking that jogging shoes are good for you by providing all that cushioning. The truth is, running shoes are actually worse for you than if you were running barefoot in a natural environment (obviously shoes are needed on hard surfaces though)

When analyzing the motions of athletes running barefoot they discovered that the toes lead the way by sort of feeling their wya over the ground. The weight is more evenly distributed as the feet have more of an opportunity to plant themselves with delicacy unlike when you wear shoes and you just pulversie the ground beneath you. Barefooted you sort of stride along, planting your feet gingerly but properly. Shoes take all that away and puts tremendous forces on your knees.

That was all irrelevant to basketball but interesting none the less how brainwashed society has become. I mean its not even a debate its a fact, running shoes are bad for you and we should all be jogging on grass barefooted.

Do people honestly think all these innovations in the shoes like "sprint frame" are as effective at preventing injury as they are effective at marketing for sales? its all just fancy words given to arbitrary design choices in the shoe.

[tmacattack33]

The same air max bags that caused rondo's ankle to twist horribly some seasons ago. You cant really blame the shoes for injuries like that. It doesnt seem like Rose's shoe gave way.

If people want to nitpick, how about brandon roy, greg oden, michael redd, steph curry? All of them getting hurt during non-lockout seasons? If you go before this year, rose and howard havent missed a lot of time. Its really the schedule thats screwing up the players.

Idk why people who dont wear adidas could even comment on their quality. The three stripes have very nice shoes thats all under $110.

Nike had the zoom air and air max for 10 yrs+ now and havent innovated apart from hyperfuse. Adidas has done leaps and bounds with puremotion, sprint frame, sprint skin, and sprint web.

Nike started the whole lightweight trend, and got beat in their own game. Now they put out that ridiculous kobe 7 with a dangerous separate midsole and say "you cant go TOO light". Guess what, previous kobe shoes were all lighter than the 7' so is Nike admitting those shoes are crap?

Yes i am mad :coleman:

Again, who gives a F about a few Nike player injuries? Most of the league is wearing them.

Adidas has like 5 players wearing them, and two of them are injured. They have a 40% failure rate (2/5th).


Nike can have 50 starting players get injured and their failure rate would still be lower than Adidas's this year.


Unless I am wrong and more than 5 starters are wearing Adidas.

[theaussieguy]

Again, who gives a F about a few Nike player injuries? Most of the league is wearing them.

Adidas has like 5 players wearing them, and two of them are injured. They have a 40% failure rate (2/5th).


Nike can have 50 starting players get injured and their failure rate would still be lower than Adidas's this year.


Unless I am wrong and more than 5 starters are wearing Adidas.

yes because 5 players gives a sample population great enough to really measure the effectiveness at preventing injury..........

[imdaman99]

he is derrick rose, he should be able to design his own sneaker...altho it prob aint the best thing to have an athlete design his own sneakers. maybe next year, adidas can design sneakers that he won't get hurt in.

i know its true, i used to wear starburys (lol marburys crappy sneaker line) and i used to get nagging ankle issues, plus they wore out after 2-3 months of basketball outside. sure they were $10-15, but they were not like a pair of nikes (duh). i am still wearing the CP3s from almost a year back.

DRose is important enough to the adidas line for them to make perfect adjustments for him, just sayin'

[nathanjizzle]

The same air max bags that caused rondo's ankle to twist horribly some seasons ago. You cant really blame the shoes for injuries like that. It doesnt seem like Rose's shoe gave way.

If people want to nitpick, how about brandon roy, greg oden, michael redd, steph curry? All of them getting hurt during non-lockout seasons? If you go before this year, rose and howard havent missed a lot of time. Its really the schedule thats screwing up the players.

Idk why people who dont wear adidas could even comment on their quality. The three stripes have very nice shoes thats all under $110.

Nike had the zoom air and air max for 10 yrs+ now and havent innovated apart from hyperfuse. Adidas has done leaps and bounds with puremotion, sprint frame, sprint skin, and sprint web.

Nike started the whole lightweight trend, and got beat in their own game. Now they put out that ridiculous kobe 7 with a dangerous separate midsole and say "you cant go TOO light". Guess what, previous kobe shoes were all lighter than the 7' so is Nike admitting those shoes are crap?

Yes i am mad :coleman:

i twisted my ankle playing in the hyper dunks, that weigh 11 ounces i think. light shoes = disaster. adidas are all about light shoes.

yes the shoes are partly to blame in a condensed season. if your shoes arnt designed well enough to cushion your bones and muscles from the floor, then your breaking down your bones and muscles every game and not being able to recover in a season like this. untill eventually you break something completely or miss allign something.

lebrons shoes is a good example. lebrons shoes weigh around 16-18 oz, where roses shoes weigh 12 oz. lebron shoes include air soles to absorb impact where roses shoes dont. They both sprint and jump the same, lebron even weights 40 pounds more. lebron is healthy, derrick rose is broken down.
its the truth. some airsoles would have saved derricks ACL and his prior injuries.

[swi7ch]

Fila also destroyed Grant Hill's career.

[nathanjizzle]

are we forgetting tracy mcgrady wore adidas?

[inclinerator]

But the shoes made d rose even faster, so fast he became unguardable :confusedshrug:
unguardable cuz he's not playing

[rodman91]

I blame Gangsta Rap.

http://blogs.bet.com/news/playahater/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/47452067.jpg

[CelticBaller]

blame the shoes :applause:

[imdaman99]

also, rose gotta know better than to make a crazy chaotic move when the game is in hand. take it easy and let someone make a play, it might give them confidence for the next game. i understand hurting yourself when it's a very close game, but take the foot off the pedal when the game is in hand.

[CelticBaller]

are we forgetting tracy mcgrady wore adidas?
Dwight Howard wears adidas :confusedshrug:

[bence23]

Again, who gives a F about a few Nike player injuries? Most of the league is wearing them.

Adidas has like 5 players wearing them, and two of them are injured. They have a 40% failure rate (2/5th).


Nike can have 50 starting players get injured and their failure rate would still be lower than Adidas's this year.


Unless I am wrong and more than 5 starters are wearing Adidas.
its actually 3 of 5 :lol

[Living Being]

This shoe would have prevented the injury:
http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/step-by-step/files/2010/03/skechers-shapeups-trainer-pink.jpg

[NumberSix]

The same air max bags that caused rondo's ankle to twist horribly some seasons ago. You cant really blame the shoes for injuries like that. It doesnt seem like Rose's shoe gave way.
Actually, LeBron's current model is not the same air max bag. Not to mention, those Air Max BB 360's that Rondo was wearing are low cut sneakers. OBVIOUSLY more susceptible to ankle injuries.


Idk why people who dont wear adidas could even comment on their quality. The three stripes have very nice shoes thats all under $110.
I actually have PLENTY of Adidas. It is kinda odd though that the 2 guys who tore their ACL yesterday were botch wearing Adidas.

Rose was wearing the AdiZero Rose 2.5

Shumpert was wearing the Adidas Top Ten 2000, which Kobe wore in his rookie season.

http://images.sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/adidas-top-ten-2000-kobe-bryant-2.jpg



Nike had the zoom air and air max for 10 yrs+ now and havent innovated apart from hyperfuse. Adidas has done leaps and bounds with puremotion, sprint frame, sprint skin, and sprint web.
Nike's have changed a lot dude. They've pretty much abandoned leather for hyperfuse and flywire, but that's even the big thing they're doing. They're foam technology is leaps and bounds beyond what any other company is doing.


Nike started the whole lightweight trend, and got beat in their own game. Now they put out that ridiculous kobe 7 with a dangerous separate midsole and say "you cant go TOO light". Guess what, previous kobe shoes were all lighter than the 7' so is Nike admitting those shoes are crap?
You obviously don't have any Kobe 7's. I personally have multiple pairs. They're not at all "dangerous". The midsoles are no different than any other shoe. It's not like they're just bouncing around in there. IT's actually very difficult to even take them out. They're locked in there VERY securely.

the idea is for the shoe to be light as possible while maintaining strength and stability. They're not just trying to make them the lightest ever just for the sake of being the lightest ever.

[nathanjizzle]

remember when KG had knee injuries in 2008? that was when he was in the adidas "brotherhood" shoe campaign.

[Living Being]

remember when KG had knee injuries in 2008? that was when he was in the adidas "brotherhood" shoe campaign.
Adidas sabotage confirmed.
Thanks /thread

[NumberSix]

Adidas = German. Nuff said.

[imdaman99]

Adidas = German. Nuff said.
a german raped the heat in the finals :lol

[rodman91]

a german raped the heat last year :lol

2011 finals

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_KUxIFSC_FCs/SwNQuHoApOI/AAAAAAAAAqk/ZyOe9pbGW8w/s1600/logjammin.jpg

[rodman91]

http://live.drjays.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/RoseAdidas.jpg

/Thread :oldlol:

[ProfessorMurder]

I don't see why this light shoe craze is happening. A few extra ounces isn't going to change much in basketball. Swimming and track, yeah, but not basketball.

Wear some shoes with padding it won't hurt.

[Living Being]

I don't see why this light shoe craze is happening. A few extra ounces isn't going to change much in basketball. Swimming and track, yeah, but not basketball.

Wear some shoes with padding it won't hurt.
Seeing superstars wearing this ninja shoe crap may create a new underground "hardcore" movement of streetballers wearing super-heavy shoes/boots ala underwater and/or weighted-vest training.
Once they slap on these new cottony featherweight kitten bubblegum shoes, they will have 60" verts and the agility of a squirrel.

[BlueandGold]

As a physical therapy/kinesiology background I can say that what the OP said is true. The makeup and design of different shoe brands can most definitely affect not only an athletes performance but also how ordinary people are able to walk and be active.

there is no definitive shoe brand because the knee/ankle and plantar (feet) makeup of every individual is unique, but there are most definitely shoes that can much more appropriately fit certain people much better than others. And also on the inverse side of that there are shoes that can hinder the walking/athletic ability for certain people as compared to others as well.

But with that said.. with 20 or so different physical therapists who are employed by the Bulls organization you don't think one of them could have said this to Rose?

[Dictator]

Dwight, Drose, and Shumpert: The curse of the Adida

[I<3NBA]

Lol at ppl blaming the shoes. While there are injuries which can be caused by improper shoe design, this is not one of them. An acl tear isn't just something that happens spontaneously. This is a conditioning issue.

I hate to remind all of you, but I called it here first. D.rose in a wheelchair in 2 years.

[blablabla]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3123/2380632640_4577773d97.jpg

if they're good enough for wilt and bill they are good enough for anybody

[chairman]

As a physical therapy/kinesiology background I can say that what the OP said is true. The makeup and design of different shoe brands can most definitely affect not only an athletes performance but also how ordinary people are able to walk and be active.

there is no definitive shoe brand because the knee/ankle and plantar (feet) makeup of every individual is unique, but there are most definitely shoes that can much more appropriately fit certain people much better than others. And also on the inverse side of that there are shoes that can hinder the walking/athletic ability for certain people as compared to others as well.

But with that said.. with 20 or so different physical therapists who are employed by the Bulls organization you don't think one of them could have said this to Rose?

So then what's the most recent basketball shoe you would recommend. Also have shin splints which are a b***. Medium arch btw

[insidehoops]

As a physical therapy/kinesiology background I can say that what the OP said is true. The makeup and design of different shoe brands can most definitely affect not only an athletes performance but also how ordinary people are able to walk and be active.

there is no definitive shoe brand because the knee/ankle and plantar (feet) makeup of every individual is unique, but there are most definitely shoes that can much more appropriately fit certain people much better than others. And also on the inverse side of that there are shoes that can hinder the walking/athletic ability for certain people as compared to others as well.

But with that said.. with 20 or so different physical therapists who are employed by the Bulls organization you don't think one of them could have said this to Rose?

Good stuff here

[LBJ_MVP09]

acls arnt torn by awkward landings. its impact to the ground that tears it. if it was because of an awkward landing an mcl or lcl would have torn or sprained with it.

ofcourse humans are not indestructible. but ACL's shouldnt just implode by landing. roses landing wasnt awkward, his knee only looked awkward because it was bent in due to a disconnected acl.

While i commend your ability to use google to search for those terms, what you are saying is not true at all. ACL injuries happen all of the time due to awkward movements, it is not exclusively injured through impact. It's not an opinion, it's a fact.

[Pharcyde]

As a physical therapy/kinesiology background I can say that what the OP said is true. The makeup and design of different shoe brands can most definitely affect not only an athletes performance but also how ordinary people are able to walk and be active.

there is no definitive shoe brand because the knee/ankle and plantar (feet) makeup of every individual is unique, but there are most definitely shoes that can much more appropriately fit certain people much better than others. And also on the inverse side of that there are shoes that can hinder the walking/athletic ability for certain people as compared to others as well.

But with that said.. with 20 or so different physical therapists who are employed by the Bulls organization you don't think one of them could have said this to Rose?

The medical staff for the Bulls is definitely partly to blame. Magic Johnson commented on the issue and said Derrick was being rushed back too much form his injuries. They were all unrelated, but they all happened to do overcompensation from the other injuries. The shoes may have started his original ankle/foot injuries though, which led to this.

[Real Men Wear Green]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3123/2380632640_4577773d97.jpg

if they're good enough for wilt and bill they are good enough for anybody
I was going to post something just like this. IF it was just about having a thick, tough shoe how did players rock cloth tops for decades? Silly thread.

[theaussieguy]

I was going to post something just like this. IF it was just about having a thick, tough shoe how did players rock cloth tops for decades? Silly thread.

its cos these *******s actually buy into all the marketing of these shoe companies so when something goes wrong its "because of this tech"

or "lack of that tech"

[gasolina]

i twisted my ankle playing in the hyper dunks, that weigh 11 ounces i think. light shoes = disaster. adidas are all about light shoes.

lebrons shoes is a good example. lebrons shoes weigh around 16-18 oz, where roses shoes weigh 12 oz. lebron shoes include air soles to absorb impact where roses shoes dont. They both sprint and jump the same, lebron even weights 40 pounds more. lebron is healthy, derrick rose is broken down.
its the truth. some airsoles would have saved derricks ACL and his prior injuries.
I twisted my ankles in the Air Max 360 low and the Kobe Zoom, both heavy shoes, so what? :confusedshrug:

[gasolina]

I was going to post something just like this. IF it was just about having a thick, tough shoe how did players rock cloth tops for decades? Silly thread.
Chris Webber made a really good point about wearing the old cons. A lot of the older players wore those and that's why they walk funny now. I think it was during the TNT ASG special on shoes.

To the guy who said 5 starting players wear adidas - how about Tim Duncan, Andre Miller, Nene, Josh Smith, Jru Holiday, Turkoglu? 5 players? :oldlol:

[nathanjizzle]

I twisted my ankles in the Air Max 360 low and the Kobe Zoom, both heavy shoes, so what? :confusedshrug:

ofcourse you did, you wore low tops and kobe zooms are like a sock. no ankle support:facepalm

[MeLO MvP 15]

Shumpert is also adidas fwiw.

I don't think it has much to do with it... maybe more so with Rose though because he wears the crazy lights which are basically plastic and flimsy as hell. Shumpert has those bigger adidas.

[gilalizard]

i very highly doubt it was because a lack of cushion. His knee just gave out. Its like the broscience that people eat up thinking that jogging shoes are good for you by providing all that cushioning. The truth is, running shoes are actually worse for you than if you were running barefoot in a natural environment (obviously shoes are needed on hard surfaces though)

When analyzing the motions of athletes running barefoot they discovered that the toes lead the way by sort of feeling their wya over the ground. The weight is more evenly distributed as the feet have more of an opportunity to plant themselves with delicacy unlike when you wear shoes and you just pulversie the ground beneath you. Barefooted you sort of stride along, planting your feet gingerly but properly. Shoes take all that away and puts tremendous forces on your knees.

That was all irrelevant to basketball but interesting none the less how brainwashed society has become. I mean its not even a debate its a fact, running shoes are bad for you and we should all be jogging on grass barefooted.

Do people honestly think all these innovations in the shoes like "sprint frame" are as effective at preventing injury as they are effective at marketing for sales? its all just fancy words given to arbitrary design choices in the shoe.

This.

Shoe "technology" is overrated, and may actually lead to more injuries. Having all those cushions and pads ****s up the natural bioengineering of the foot.

Once you learn how to run on your toes, instead of heel-striking, you realize how much you don't need massive, cushioned shoes.

Obviously basketball is a different animal than just running. But I wouldn't be surprised to see that bball athletes that wear less cushioned shoes are no more likely, if not less likely, to be injured. Not that a study like that would ever see the light of day if taken by the shoe companies themselves.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Chris Webber made a really good point about wearing the old cons. A lot of the older players wore those and that's why they walk funny now. I think it was during the TNT ASG special on shoes.
Old players walk funny because they played hard for years. Old athletes in every sport have old injuries. Webber having been a Nike guy for at least the first part of his career isn't impartial.

[RoseCity07]

https://p.twimg.com/ArnjTkACIAAKBE4.jpg

[nathanjizzle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v228cZtXG5s&lc=kPfFM49G8MkE0iueYrw3IYu2VGa2NZEHlQZjWqLcKKY&feature=inbox

"GUYS! I have been playing in these shoes for about a week now and they are not as comfortable as I expected. I will give it more time to break it but so far I have sore ankles and knees (doing regular training) , so not a good start."

pls d rose, dont do this to your career over shoes...

[NumberSix]

The brotha shoulda wore Nike's.

[Raz]

An ACL injury is a freak occurrence.

[swi7ch]

This is how Grant Hill got hurt. He wore FILAs, LOL! Guess what happened when he started wearing shoes designed by a company that spends more money than any other shoe company in history?

I'm not saying Adidas is a bad brand but I'm just comparing FILA vs Nike. Grant Hill should sue FILA, IMO.

[01amberfirewv]

i twisted my ankle playing in the hyper dunks, that weigh 11 ounces i think. light shoes = disaster. adidas are all about light shoes.

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Hyperdunk low-tops are the only shoes I have ever had that I played in regularly and didn't roll my ankles in. Its all about having strong ankles. Rose needs to quite relying on those braces and work on his ankles.

http://blog.strongerteam.com/post/2011/09/13/Ankle-Braces.aspx

[PickernRoller]

I guess you choose to ignore the comments of actual substance I post, which comprises probably 85% of my posts. If I've offended your delicate sensibilities, feel free to continue your butt hurt campaign.
A biased outsider like me would probably trim it down to 50% to be fair to both sides.....I gotta admit thou, nice comeback :lol
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Anyway hope Rose turns to be one of a kind and comes back better than ever, he gonna need it to beat the Heat.........

[TSFP]

I was about to buy me a pair until I saw this thread lol

[FireDavidKahn]

the shoes they make are borderline dangerous for professional athletes to wear. There whole light weight shoe campaign there going for is ridiculous. a player of roses athleticism shouldnt be wearing 10oz of cusion as support.

he was actually injured last post season wearing the "crazy lights" against the pacers when he twisted his ankle, and twisted it again a few games later.
Now this has happened. If rose were wearing shoes with alittle bit more cusion, his ACL wouldnt have snapped due to sudden impact to the ground.

sad that both superstars endorsed by adidas are out with injuries that are due to shoe design.
No the NBA is to blame. They could of made heavier and thicker jerseys to help weigh down the athletes to compensate for the shoes.

[nathanjizzle]

https://p.twimg.com/ArnjTkACIAAKBE4.jpg

you can now add kevin ware to that list. :facepalm
http://receph.apextech.netdna-cdn.com/images/tnph3/615/304/1/1/615/304/2013/03/31/crop_kevinware20130331.jpg

[nathanjizzle]

http://receph.apextech.netdna-cdn.com/images/tnph3/615/304/1/1/615/304/2013/03/31/crop_kevinware20130331.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BGt9VawCYAIikP8.jpg

[nathanjizzle]

bump, time to bring a lawsuit to adidas.