Blake Griffin and LeBron are basically the same size...who is greater physically??

[Living Being]

LeBron is faster and can jump higher, right? Griffin is known to be pretty quick for a big guy, but he's probably only an inch taller and the same weight.
Is LeBron as strong as Griffin? I wouldn't think so, but has LeBron's strength been tested? He doesn't look to be stoppable by physical players.
I would think LeBron is noticeably faster, jumps a little higher, and has close to the strength of Blake.

http://photos.upi.com/view/4e778d7de884d665dcd5623584b1f103/Blake-Griffin-and-LeBron-James-tip-the-ball.jpg

http://www.nba.com/clippers/photos/MIALAC-12011-3.jpg

http://blog.eastbay.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/blake-griffin-lebron-james.jpg

http://streetballblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Lebron_vs_Blake_Griffin.jpg

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxof0fCgWh1qzb7vjo1_1280.jpg

[dunksby]

Lebron obviously.

[LoneyROY7]

LeBron cannot jump higher then Griffin. I mean really?

Griffin gets his head at or above the rim on just about every dunk he does.

[kurt_rambis]

weight room strength, i bet blake has him. 'basketball' strength, it's probably closer. lebron by a nose

up until this year, lebron had the better leap. lately he doesn't seem to be getting as high as blake, though

lebron is obviously quicker, faster

[pauk]

LeBron cannot jump higher then Griffin. I mean really?

Griffin gets his head at or above the rim on just about every dunk he does.

Lebron gets higher up of one leg (sprinting takeoff of left leg)... he is a one legged leaper a la Julius Erving... James White...

Griffin gets higher up of two legs.... he is a two legged leaper a la Vince Carter, Dwight Howard etc...

[kenny817]

Bron is one of the most physically gifted specimens of all time

Right up there with young Iron Mike

[ralph_i_el]

lebron is quicker and faster. Blake is stronger and jumps higher.

Lebron probably is a quicker leaper though

[Riley Martin]

Griffin
PF/C
6 ft 10 in

LeBron
SF/SG
6 ft 8 in

I wouldn't say same

[LA_Showtime]

Bro are you serious? Seriously? Get outta here. LeBron is a physical specimen crafted from Zeus himself. Hell, he is Zeus, or at least he's a long-lost relative of Zeus. Griffin's quite an athlete, but he's an unathletic white fat boy compared to LeBron mother ****ing James.

[Cangri]

Griffin got nothing on a prime athletic Lebron.

And I think he's like 1 or 2 inches taller than Lebron.

[LA_Showtime]

Griffin got nothing on a prime athletic Lebron.

And I think he's like 1 or 2 inches taller than Lebron.

His height has literally nothing to do with anything. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. None.

[magnax1]

Lebron is much more athletic. Much quicker, faster, can jump much higher. Might not be quite as strong, but they're pretty close.

[magnax1]

Griffin
PF/C
6 ft 10 in

LeBron
SF/SG
6 ft 8 in

I wouldn't say same
Real measurements
Lebron
6'7.25"
Griffin
6'8.5"

[Living Being]

Griffin got nothing on a prime athletic Lebron.

And I think he's like 1 or 2 inches taller than Lebron.
I said he is probably an inch taller in the OP.

To the other poster who mentioned the 6'10" vs 6'8" size--it is arguable. But even so, I said "basically" the same size. They are very close in height and weight.

[Kobe 4 The Win]

We need to settle this. They need to have a contest after the season. Race, jump, lift weights, etc. I'm rooting for Blake but I'm betting on Lebridesmaid.

[shallehalle]

when both are running and get fouled, lebron looks like a train, griffin like my sisters pink bike

[FindingTim]

they are a similar size, which makes Lebron's quickness/agility/ball-handling that much more jaw-dropping.

[PickernRoller]

LBJ...no question. He's still a pu$$y inside thou....:oldlol:

[qrich]

LeBron is Hercules reincarnated. :D

[ShaqAttack3234]

they are a similar size, which makes Lebron's quickness/agility/ball-handling that much more jaw-dropping.

Yeah, and Lebron is also heavier. Lebron was 245 at the '03 pre-draft camp, while Griffin was 248 at the '09 pre-draft camp, don't know how much Griffin has gained, but it doesn't look to be anywhere near the amount of weight Lebron gained between '03 and the '08-'09 season. Lebron has most likely been in the 265-270 range the last 4 seasons and 260+ the past 5 seasons, while Griffin may not be 260 despite being an inch taller.

[alenleomessi]

Only thing Lebron has on Blake is - he is faster... other than that strength, jumping ability and conditioning are pretty close.

[inclinerator]

Only thing Lebron has on Blake is - he is faster... other than that strength, jumping ability and conditioning are pretty close.
coordination?

[zay_24]

when both are running and get fouled, lebron looks like a train, griffin like my sisters pink bike
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foaPMZxtzx4

[The Macho Man]

coordination?

This is the big difference.

[NumberSix]

Blake probably has the edge on leaping right now. They're probably similar in strength, but LeBron weighs a little more, so that gives him the edge.

Blake is not sniffin' LeBron's speed though.

[TheNaturalWR]

Blake probably has the edge on leaping right now. They're probably similar in strength, but LeBron weighs a little more, so that gives him the edge.

Blake is not sniffin' LeBron's speed though.

Blake does NOT get up higher than LeBron. Griffin has a 35 inch vert whereas LeBron has a 40+ inch vertical.

[Riley Martin]

Blake does NOT get up higher than LeBron. Griffin has a 35 inch vert whereas LeBron has a 40+ inch vertical.

Are you sure? It seems like Griffin's head gets much higher than LeBron's (a la the Mozgov/Perkins throw-in dunks) and if they're roughly the same height it would mean Griffin's vertical is roughly the same or higher than LeBron's

[Lebron23]

LBJ

[lilgodfather1]

Bro are you serious? Seriously? Get outta here. LeBron is a physical specimen crafted from Zeus himself. Hell, he is Zeus, or at least he's a long-lost relative of Zeus. Griffin's quite an athlete, but he's an unathletic white fat boy compared to LeBron mother ****ing James.
No god would have sex with a black person. Come on now.

[lilgodfather1]

Are you sure? It seems like Griffin's head gets much higher than LeBron's (a la the Mozgov/Perkins throw-in dunks) and if they're roughly the same height it would mean Griffin's vertical is roughly the same or higher than LeBron's
You obviously didn't see Blake pushing himself up on Perk eh.

[Riley Martin]

You obviously didn't see Blake pushing himself up on Perk eh.

Did he push himself up on the Mozgov dunk too? Sounds like a cop-out to me. Griffin's head routinely reaches pretty amazing heights on many of his dunks. Not just one or two of them.

[L.Kizzle]

Gus Johnson.

He was possibly the first guy in the NBA with that type of build. Maurice Stokes and Elgin Baylor also to some degree, but they weren't as rock solid as Gus was.

Than you had players coming along like George McGinnis, Larry Johnson, ect.

[LA_Showtime]

No god would have sex with a black person. Come on now.

Gloria raped him.

[Ikill]

Cleveland LeBron is the most athletic player and easily better than Blake but right now its close and I would go with blake

[NumberSix]

Cleveland LeBron is the most athletic player and easily better than Blake but right now its close and I would go with blake
Blake can jump and all, but he's not particularly fast.

[Ikill]

Blake can jump and all, but he's not particularly fast.
bakes pretty fast for his size but yeah lebrons easily faster. I think blake might be quicker but he gets defended by slower players so who knows. I would give Blake body control and their strength seems pretty even. Both have insane stamina and durability.

[arifgokcen]

bakes pretty fast for his size but yeah lebrons easily faster but I think might be quicker but than again he gets defended by slower players. I would give Blake body control and their strength seems pretty even. Both have insane stamina and durability.

In terms of durability you cant say that because this is blake's only second year.He has to play more than a year and a half to be considered durable especially considering he missed entire season.
Lebron durability is #2 best in nba.In terms of stamina i dont think anyone can rival lebron certainly not blake.Griffin doesnt defend at all however lebron defense is as well as his offense.

BTW their verticals are at this point same.Griffin is 1.5" taller than bron.So he looks like he jumps higher than lebron.Lebron is a little bir stronger and 10 pounds heavier.In terms of basketball strength,they are still pretty close though.Lebron is still much faster and quicker.

Blake as great of an athlete as he is,lebron is still the most athletic player in the league.

[stephanieg]

Cleveland LeBron was much more athletic. Miami LeBron has regressed a lot though. Blake outjumps him easily and can actually beat guys off the dribble.

[ConanRulesNBC]

Stronger? Blake Griffin.

Better overall athlete? LeBron

[Ikill]

In terms of durability you cant say that because this is blake's only second year.He has to play more than a year and a half to be considered durable especially considering he missed entire season.
Lebron durability is #2 best in nba.In terms of stamina i dont think anyone can rival lebron certainly not blake.Griffin doesnt defend at all however lebron defense is as well as his offense.

BTW their verticals are at this point same.Griffin is 1.5" taller than bron.So he looks like he jumps higher than lebron.Lebron is a little bir stronger and 10 pounds heavier.In terms of basketball strength,they are still pretty close though.Lebron is still much faster and quicker.

Blake as great of an athlete as he is,lebron is still the most athletic player in the league.
you have a point in terms of durability and stamina
vertical and strength is close LeBron is faster too but Blake is quicker and more agile LeBron has regressed a lot in that area. There is no way LeBron is the best athlete in the NBA not even close his quickness in the Harcourt is horrible these days

[pauk]

There is absolutely nothing Griffin is any noticeably better at athletically except having a better two foot takeof...

They have actually about the same strength/power... Lebron is then millions times faster (4.4 sec 40 yard dash, which is what the fastest WR's in NFL history record and they were around 6 foot tall), quicker, more agile, much better one leg takeof (he can get up even higher than Griffin this way), better cardio/endurance and is ZERO injury proned, even when he gets injured he recovers as fast as nobody ive seen before, how many times have we seen Lebron literally snap his ankles like a toothpick, take a minute of and then get back in the game like nothing happened....

[Clippersfan86]

There is absolutely nothing Griffin is any noticeably better at athletically except having a better two foot takeof...

They have actually about the same strength/power... Lebron is then millions times faster (4.4 sec 40 yard dash, which is what the fastest WR's in NFL history record and they were around 6 foot tall), quicker, more agile, much better one leg takeof (he can get up even higher than Griffin this way), better cardio/endurance and is ZERO injury proned, even when he gets injured he recovers as fast as nobody ive seen before, how many times have we seen Lebron literally snap his ankles like a toothpick, take a minute of and then get back in the game like nothing happened....

We've also seen him get carried off the court by 3 teammates for a cramp while Griffin has played with torn Meniscus for 30+ minutes and a broken knee cap for a while too. Lebron is the overall better athlete but Griffin is his match in a few categories. Griffin is a little stronger, Lebron is faster and has more stamina. Griffin is far from a slug though... he has guard like agility+sprint times from the combine.

[9erempiree]

I'm going to go with the Silverback Gorilla.

[RRR3]

No god would have sex with a black person. Come on now.
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
http://www.20min.ch/diashow/24360/03idaljungqvist0-7b735b2b6a442c3acd2dff87f76c9409.jpg
http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk470/satinbox/angel_melaku.jpg?t=1270829653




:coleman: :hammerhead:

[cavsfanatic]

Lebron has the rarest athletic ability I've ever seen. He 6'8 275 and runs like a 6'2 pg. Bron is a locomotive on the court....

Blake has some of the greatest leaping skills I've ever seen but a young Vince Carter was the best.

Blake is a leaper and that's all. He doesn't have speed and he doesn't muscle people in the post

[cavsfanatic]

We've also seen him get carried off the court by 3 teammates for a cramp while Griffin has played with torn Meniscus for 30+ minutes and a broken knee cap for a while too. Lebron is the overall better athlete but Griffin is his match in a few categories. Griffin is a little stronger, Lebron is faster and has more stamina. Griffin is far from a slug though... he has guard like agility+sprint times from the combine.
lol Lebron been carried off once in 9 years. foh

[Clippersfan86]

Lebron has the rarest athletic ability I've ever seen. He 6'8 275 and runs like a 6'2 pg. Bron is a locomotive on the court....

Blake has some of the greatest leaping skills I've ever seen but a young Vince Carter was the best.

Blake is a leaper and that's all. He doesn't have speed and he doesn't muscle people in the post


:roll: :roll: . That's ALL he does dude. He bullies everybody in the league pretty much in the paint. Only players I've seen that he couldn't push around easily are Dwight, Bynum and Chuck Hayes. Outside of those 3 he's had his way with every single player physically.

[RRR3]

We've also seen him get carried off the court by 3 teammates for a cramp while Griffin has played with torn Meniscus for 30+ minutes and a broken knee cap for a while too. Lebron is the overall better athlete but Griffin is his match in a few categories. Griffin is a little stronger, Lebron is faster and has more stamina. Griffin is far from a slug though... he has guard like agility+sprint times from the combine.
Blake got destroyed on the Boards in the playoffs. Meanwhile LBJ increased his rebounding significantly. :durantunimpressed:

[RRR3]

:roll: :roll: . That's ALL he does dude. He bullies everybody in the league pretty much in the paint. Only players I've seen that he couldn't push around easily are Dwight, Bynum and Chuck Hayes. Outside of those 3 he's had his way with every single player physically.
Really? he had a lot of trouble with Zach Randolph

[BGriffin's Dad]

Blake doesn't muscle people in the post

:roll:

[Clippersfan86]

Show me a play Lebron has made like this. The balance+strength+vertical leap all combined into one play. I've never seen a play like this. Barnes was a football player who's strong as fu** for his size too so this isn't a soft foul.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHLsBuzraTY

As I said.. Lebron gets the overall edge but DO NOT act like he's in a whole different class than Griffin because he's not. Griffin is the only player in NBA history probably to have an all around athletic chart similar to Lebron for that size.

[Clippersfan86]

Blake got destroyed on the Boards in the playoffs. Meanwhile LBJ increased his rebounding significantly. :durantunimpressed:

Griffin was playing with a knee injury which come to find out was a torn Meniscus+sprained knee. Has nothing to do with Randolph but rather his own limitations at that time. Lebron's rebounding is significantly lower to begin with so one playoff run doesn't change that.

Also he had no trouble with Zach. Please dude.. he backs Zach down like he does everybody else. Funny thing is his first playoff series ever vs a supposedly elite team and the best paint team in the league.. and the guy puts up 21, 7 and 3 and gets bashed like he's a shitty player.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_b6Hrz1Wuk

With the injury he drops 30 on Memphis.

[VeeCee15]

Lebron does not have ANYTHING close to a 40 inch leap.
If he had a 40 inch leap..his eyes would be at rim everytime he jumps.

[Clippersfan86]

Griffin punked Zbo so bad in that 30 point game that Zbo got a tech and 2 quick fouls out of frustration and the Clippers fans laughed at him all the way to the bench.

[Linspired]

apparently they are not basically same size

http://rivalscup.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Team-2012-Mens-Olympic-Basketball.jpg


and when was last time we saw bron doing anything like this?
http://thekevinburkeproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/blakeolympics.jpg


bron should man up and show me that man thigh of his like blake
http://newgirlstalkingsports.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/blake-griffin.jpg

[Clippersfan86]

LMAO at "show me that man thigh". :roll:

[Ikill]

Griffin was playing with a knee injury which come to find out was a torn Meniscus+sprained knee. Has nothing to do with Randolph but rather his own limitations at that time. Lebron's rebounding is significantly lower to begin with so one playoff run doesn't change that.

Also he had no trouble with Zach. Please dude.. he backs Zach down like he does everybody else. Funny thing is his first playoff series ever vs a supposedly elite team and the best paint team in the league.. and the guy puts up 21, 7 and 3 and gets bashed like he's a shitty player.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_b6Hrz1Wuk

With the injury he drops 30 on Memphis.
I dont why everyone ignores he was injured

[Clippersfan86]

I dont why everyone ignores he was injured

When it comes to the Clippers nobody talks about what could have caused the problems such as serious injuries. Much easier for them to talk about a curse, how much of a choke our players are, how shitty the franchise is etc. Just like CP3 who was obviously hobbled was DOMINATING the playoffs before the groin injury and after it... he started struggling bad. People insisted on making threads about how much of a choke, failure etc he is. Nevermind the fact that CP3 was being considered the best playoff player at the time putting up 23 ppg, 11 apg, 5 rpg, 3 spg on insane efficiency in the first 3 or 4 games vs Memphis.

[lilgodfather1]

When speaking of athletic ability durability has to be taken into account. Blake has been a pro for 3 years and has suffered two knee injuries, where as LeBron has been a pro for 9 and missed less games than Blake did in his rookie year. In fact most of LeBron's missed games as a Cavalier were him sitting out to rest for the playoffs.

LeBron is worlds faster, while being heavier. He is likely stronger, and if there is an edge in leaping ability it is marginal at best. More durable, stronger, faster, better coordination, ambidextrous, similar leaping ability, all of which makes LeBron a better athlete.

[NumberSix]

Show me a play Lebron has made like this. The balance+strength+vertical leap all combined into one play. I've never seen a play like this. Barnes was a football player who's strong as fu** for his size too so this isn't a soft foul.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHLsBuzraTYare you serious with this? Bron makes at least 1 or 2 completely absurd miracle layups per game.

[Clippersfan86]

are you serious with this? Bron makes at least 1 or 2 completely absurd miracle layups per game.

Post them.

[inclinerator]

lebron

[Linspired]

When speaking of athletic ability durability has to be taken into account. Blake has been a pro for 3 years and has suffered two knee injuries, where as LeBron has been a pro for 9 and missed less games than Blake did in his rookie year. In fact most of LeBron's missed games as a Cavalier were him sitting out to rest for the playoffs.

LeBron is worlds faster, while being heavier. He is likely stronger, and if there is an edge in leaping ability it is marginal at best. More durable, stronger, faster, better coordination, ambidextrous, similar leaping ability, all of which makes LeBron a better athlete.

are you sure bron is heavier? i really doubt bron is anything more than 255lb when season starts. i think both blake and bron is about 255lb. and bron looked heavier 2 years ago, but he looked like he slimmed down a little last year.

these dudes can walk around 265lb-270lb for sure, but i don't believe bron being heavier than dwight who is playing at 265lb-270lb.

remember, karl malone looking like this was 265lb.
http://hoopstopia.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Karl_Malone_Lifting_Weights.265192321_std.jpg

[Linspired]

Lebron has the rarest athletic ability I've ever seen. He 6'8 275 and runs like a 6'2 pg. Bron is a locomotive on the court....

Blake has some of the greatest leaping skills I've ever seen but a young Vince Carter was the best.

Blake is a leaper and that's all. He doesn't have speed and he doesn't muscle people in the post


another reason why media exaggeration needs to stop. Bron is nowhere near 275lb. :facepalm

[inclinerator]

are you sure bron is heavier? i really doubt bron is anything more than 255lb when season starts. i think both blake and bron is about 255lb. and bron looked heavier 2 years ago, but he looked like he slimmed down a little last year.

these dudes can walk around 265lb-270lb for sure, but i don't believe bron being heavier than dwight who is playing at 265lb-270lb.
remember, karl malone looking like this was 265lb.
http://hoopstopia.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Karl_Malone_Lifting_Weights.265192321_std.jpg
people have different bone structures

[tpols]

apparently they are not basically same size

http://rivalscup.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Team-2012-Mens-Olympic-Basketball.jpg

Look at Kevin Durant's shoulders.. there like 4 inches higher than Brons and almost at Tyson's level. I wonder what his standing reach is:eek:

[Indian guy]

Today? All LeBron really has on him is quickness, but that's only because Blake's not that quick. Aside from that, Blake either matches him or is better at everything else.

[tpols]

Today? All LeBron really has on him is quickness, but that's only because Blake's not that quick. Aside from that, Blake either matches him or is better at everything else.
Straight line speed?

[Clippersfan86]

People definitely keep exaggerating both players weight. Griffin isn't more than 255 and Lebron is 260 TOPS. People keep saying stupid shit like Lebron is 270 and Griffin is 265 with ZERO evidence. Lebron said he was 260 last year give or take a couple pounds and Griffin has always been in the 250-255 range. Griffin is the stronger player and we have more to support that claim by the simple fact that Griffin bangs with PF's and C's all year where as if Lebron does... it's with a running start from the top of the key.

We've seen them matched up for probably 10-12 possessions in Griffin's career so far and I took away these observations.

1. Lebron is too quick for Griffin on the first step/explosion. Griffin couldn't stay in front of him which is to be expected, although he gave a solid effort and didn't look like a slow player doing it.

2. Griffin is stronger than Lebron. He didn't have trouble backing Lebron down or easily boxing him out and getting a rebound.

3. Griffin is the better leaper. Not necessarily max vert (probably identical there) but in terms of situations these players can get that vert and how often they do it. Griffin is pretty much at the top of the box every single rebound or dunk. Not to mention he can leap off two feet and one foot equally (Lebron can't). Griffin is also a quicker leaper.


Speed: Lebron
Quickness: Lebron
Leaping Ability: Griffin
Agility: Tied
Balance: Tied
Strength: Griffin
Durability: Lebron
Stamina: Lebron

So Lebron wins out 4-2. The gap between them in any category though isn't big. They are both the most athletic players of all time at their position.

[Clippersfan86]

Griffin has the best balance and agility I have ever seen for a player his size. People are really selling him short in this comparison.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPOvkg05Jeg

Training session with HyperIce.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xomXxQVa14&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSbQz80rw4w


Training MMA

[RRR3]

Griffin has the best balance and agility I have ever seen for a player his size. People are really selling him short in this comparison.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPOvkg05Jeg

Training session with HyperIce.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xomXxQVa14&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSbQz80rw4w


Training MMA
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Jv_4t0Jkqi8/TW-L2Bih96I/AAAAAAAAAzE/zp5G8fp3Qmw/s1600/bb.jpg
DAT BALANCE! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[REACTION]

Show me a play Lebron has made like this. The balance+strength+vertical leap all combined into one play. I've never seen a play like this. Barnes was a football player who's strong as fu** for his size too so this isn't a soft foul.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHLsBuzraTY

Yeah, that was a crazy play. Sometimes it seems like Griffin forgets how strong he is and goes out of control in the air. Usually he recovers and turns it into a nice layup/dunk, but some of them have me thinking "oh shit, how is he going to land that safely?!"

[Linspired]

people have different bone structures

difference is minimal. I'm a big MMA fan, and usually bigger looking guys weigh more.

bron can easily play at 265lb. he will lose speed, but he will be strong as hell. he certainly has a frame to carry that weight. but i'm certain he isn't playing at 265lb.

[lbj23clutch]

Blakes clearly the better athlete right now. But you guys are forgetting about LeBron in his younger Cleveland days. That version of LeBron is a top 3 athlete EVER. Blake isn't on the same level athletically as a young Cleveland LeBron.


LeBron James speed without the ball
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNaLIhzSYDI

Rip Hamilton, one of the most conditioned athletes in the L calls LeBron the fastest player in the league.(Cleveland days)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyBT7xEdnAw&feature=relmfu

LeBron James vertical
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1-YcD5pQXQ

[LikeABosh]

Blake MIGHT have more brute strength than Lebron but that's about it.

[LikeABosh]

People definitely keep exaggerating both players weight. Griffin isn't more than 255 and Lebron is 260 TOPS. People keep saying stupid shit like Lebron is 270 and Griffin is 265 with ZERO evidence. Lebron said he was 260 last year give or take a couple pounds and Griffin has always been in the 250-255 range. Griffin is the stronger player and we have more to support that claim by the simple fact that Griffin bangs with PF's and C's all year where as if Lebron does... it's with a running start from the top of the key.

We've seen them matched up for probably 10-12 possessions in Griffin's career so far and I took away these observations.

1. Lebron is too quick for Griffin on the first step/explosion. Griffin couldn't stay in front of him which is to be expected, although he gave a solid effort and didn't look like a slow player doing it.

2. Griffin is stronger than Lebron. He didn't have trouble backing Lebron down or easily boxing him out and getting a rebound.

3. Griffin is the better leaper. Not necessarily max vert (probably identical there) but in terms of situations these players can get that vert and how often they do it. Griffin is pretty much at the top of the box every single rebound or dunk. Not to mention he can leap off two feet and one foot equally (Lebron can't). Griffin is also a quicker leaper.


Speed: Lebron
Quickness: Lebron
Leaping Ability: Griffin
Agility: Tied
Balance: Tied
Strength: Griffin
Durability: Lebron
Stamina: Lebron

So Lebron wins out 4-2. The gap between them in any category though isn't big. They are both the most athletic players of all time at their position.
Balance and agility tied?? :lol :lol

[Foster5k]

Lebron.

Lebron is a locomotive.

[lbj23clutch]

People definitely keep exaggerating both players weight. Griffin isn't more than 255 and Lebron is 260 TOPS. People keep saying stupid shit like Lebron is 270 and Griffin is 265 with ZERO evidence. Lebron said he was 260 last year give or take a couple pounds and Griffin has always been in the 250-255 range. Griffin is the stronger player and we have more to support that claim by the simple fact that Griffin bangs with PF's and C's all year where as if Lebron does... it's with a running start from the top of the key.

We've seen them matched up for probably 10-12 possessions in Griffin's career so far and I took away these observations.

1. Lebron is too quick for Griffin on the first step/explosion. Griffin couldn't stay in front of him which is to be expected, although he gave a solid effort and didn't look like a slow player doing it.

2. Griffin is stronger than Lebron. He didn't have trouble backing Lebron down or easily boxing him out and getting a rebound.

3. Griffin is the better leaper. Not necessarily max vert (probably identical there) but in terms of situations these players can get that vert and how often they do it. Griffin is pretty much at the top of the box every single rebound or dunk. Not to mention he can leap off two feet and one foot equally (Lebron can't). Griffin is also a quicker leaper.


Speed: Lebron
Quickness: Lebron
Leaping Ability: Griffin
Agility: Tied
Balance: Tied
Strength: Griffin
Durability: Lebron
Stamina: Lebron

So Lebron wins out 4-2. The gap between them in any category though isn't big. They are both the most athletic players of all time at their position.
LOL balance easily goes to LeBron. LeBron rarely hits the deck when he drives in traffic and he has the best body control in the league along with Derrick Rose, meanwhile Blake hit's the deck more then a prime D-Wade. There's a reason why many people believe LeBron would be a very good tight end in the NFL. A scout even compared LeBron to Randy Moss back in high school. LeBron's coordination and balance is on the level of a wide reciever in the NFL.


In terms of agility I got LeBron by a little, but athletic prime LeBron is laughably more agile then Blake.


Randy Moss saying LeBron would be better then Antonio Gates in the NFL.
http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/1807/moss-says-lebron-would-be-better-than-gates

"That's a good comparison," Moss said. "I think LeBron could come in and do better than Antonio Gates."

Moss didn't even mention James' 6-foot-8, 250-pound frame, although it certainly wouldn't hurt. Moss explained his assessment was based on the pure physical dominance James demonstrates on a nightly basis.

"I see his power and his explosion," Moss said. "It really translates to the football field. Basketball was my first love. I just chose football because I was able to excel at that a little bit quicker than basketball.

"But looking at him and evaluating his skills and things like that, I don't think it'd be a problem for him to make the transition from basketball to football.

"I believe that he could be a star in this game."



Former Greenbay Packer, Hall of Famer safety, Mark Murphy on LeBron as a wide-receiver and athleticism. Also other Football player/coaches on LeBron as an NFL athlete
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4194437

Mark Murphy hasn't merely witnessed the finest receivers of his generation. He has experienced them.

Murphy's 11-year career at strong safety was good enough to get him into the Green Bay Packers' Hall of Fame. He has covered, tackled and occasionally been scorched by legends.

On the subject of greatness, he knows what he's talking about.

"I've been around a lot of great receivers," Murphy said. "I tell people that I rate my top receivers -- coaching, playing or watching -- as James Lofton, Jerry Rice, Steve Largent and LeBron James."

"People laugh at me, but it's true," Murphy said of placing James in the same class as three Pro Football Hall of Famers. "The kid had everything you could want.

"I felt like that was one kid that could have gone from high school to the NFL and played."



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[Clippersfan86]

Lol at Lebron easily having more balance and agility. Griffin has far more circus shots and crazy finishes and thats a 2 year sample compared to 8. Maybe.240 pound Lebron did but not this one. Leave it to homers though to make stupid claims. Griffin isn't the all around athlete Lebron is but to act like there is a big gap is stupid.

[Clippersfan86]

LBJ you said Griffin is easily better athlete now. Explain your criteria if you don't agree with mine.

[lbj23clutch]

LBJ you said Griffin is easily better athlete now. Explain your criteria if you don't agree with mine.
Are we comparing current LeBron or a young athletic prime LeBron?

[Ikill]

Just cause you fall down doesnt mean you have bad balance have you seen all the insane lay ups Blake has made the last two years.

[Clippersfan86]

Are we comparing current LeBron or a young athletic prime LeBron?

Current obviously. 240 pound Lebron was athletically superior in every way besides strength.

[Mach_3]

Honestly neither one of them are that strong (weight room strength) for their sizes but looking at Lebrons physique he's probably stronger in the big compound lifts. Only thing Griffin has on him might be leg strength/explosiveness

[che guevara]

Current Lebron clearly has agility/quickness, body control, and straight line speed over Blake.

Wtf is with these Clippers fans talking up Blake's body control? That's one of his weakest areas athletically, whereas Lebron (even with his diminished Miami athleticism) has some of the best body control in the league. Just look at the adjustments he made in the air against Ibaka/Perkins in the Finals.

Another thing Lebron has on Blake that may not be athleticism is coordination. Lebron is (still) insanely coordinated, whereas Blake... isn't.

[NumberSix]

Blake is clunky. No finesse.

[che guevara]

Blake is clunky. No finesse.
Clunky is a good word for him.

[Living Being]

What does everyone think now?

[flipogb]

Griffin is more agile and quicker than he has shown recently, Paul is holding him back from handling the ball more and showing all he can do

[Dictator]

Lebron weighs 275? Lol More like 245-260 range

[JohnMax]

They played tonight

[JohnFreeman]

LeBron uses his size in the post and defending. Griffin sort of just dunks and shows his athleticism. Griffin is good on the boards though

[Mure]

LeBron and it ain't close.

[Milbuck]

We need to settle this. They need to have a contest after the season. Race, jump, lift weights, etc. I'm rooting for Blake but I'm betting on Lebridesmaid.
:roll:

[Leftimage]

They played tonight
and bron looked noticeably stronger. i was surprised tbh. maybe bg was just gassed or is less technicaĺly skilled at defending in the post. .but lebron looked too strong for bg on more than 1 occasion. very impressive. fwit bg was amazing tonight though.

[JohnFreeman]

and bron looked noticeably stronger. i was surprised tbh. maybe bg was just gassed or is less technicaĺly skilled at defending in the post. .but lebron looked too strong for bg on more than 1 occasion. very impressive. fwit bg was amazing tonight though.
I would say Griffin just lifts weights. LeBron has a stronger core

[Aussie Dunker]

Both these men are listed at 250 pounds, with Lebron being the shorter of the two... Not sure why people suspect Blake would lift more weight than Lebron considering if they were the same height Lebron would probably be 10-15 pound heavier than him...

[sundizz]

Well:

Body control
Lebron 10
Griffin 8

Speed (relative to size)
Lebron 10++
Griffin 8

Quickness (relative to their size)
Lebron 10
Griffin 8

Hops 1 leg
Lebron 10
Griffin 8.5

Hops 2 leg
Lebron 9
Griffin 10++

Weight room strength (relative to size)
Griffin: 9.5
Lebron: 9

Core/usable strength (and or power strength, meaning quickness+strength)
Lebron: 10+
Griffin: 8.5

[talkingconch]

Lebron is faster, more agile, dont know about jumping or anything but it looks about the same.

[hahaitme]

Speed, LeBron is a given.

After today's game I'd say LeBron is stronger too, it looked like LeBron had a handle on Griffin in the post.

Vert? I'd say Griffin gets higher on a daily basis.. But then again, this jump from LeBron to catch a pass:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1-YcD5pQXQ

:bowdown:

[Vienceslav]

Speed, LeBron is a given.

After today's game I'd say LeBron is stronger too, it looked like LeBron had a handle on Griffin in the post.

Vert? I'd say Griffin gets higher on a daily basis.. But then again, this jump from LeBron to catch a pass:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1-YcD5pQXQ

:bowdown:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRIqnhhQ7nY
They should have a reach contest.

[plowking]

Bron is the stronger player IMO. He has some crazy ass core strength, and his legs are so incredibly thick, same with Blake's.
I'd wager Lebron absolutely kills Blake in the weight room as far as lower body stuff goes. Upper body, not so sure about, but Lebron would kill him in squats and deadlifts IMO.

[eliteballer]

They are not "basically the same size"

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6uu6wS7zR1r7fzaao1_500.jpg

[Solefade]

seems like Blake is stronger (at least upper body), lebron is quicker and jumps about just as high as BG

[Marlo_Stanfield]

LEBron jumps hiher... he had his eyes at rim level yesterday and he didnt even have a full running start:biggums:
hes also stronger because he has more natural strenght.
weight lifting strenght Blake probably got him :applause:

[ArbitraryWater]

Yeah, and Lebron is also heavier. Lebron was 245 at the '03 pre-draft camp, while Griffin was 248 at the '09 pre-draft camp, don't know how much Griffin has gained, but it doesn't look to be anywhere near the amount of weight Lebron gained between '03 and the '08-'09 season. Lebron has most likely been in the 265-270 range the last 4 seasons and 260+ the past 5 seasons, while Griffin may not be 260 despite being an inch taller.

pretty much

[Leftimage]

Not taking anything from Griffin, but he tends to get bullied pretty good by Lebron when they play one another. Doesn't gain much ground backing him down, doesn't have much luck guarding him in the paint either.

They've guarded one another quite frequently, and it often just looks like a duel of beastly PFs. Lebron is that strong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDZQ2CSzNvg

[AirFederer]

Blake probably has the edge on leaping right now. They're probably similar in strength, but LeBron weighs a little more, so that gives him the edge.

Blake is not sniffin' LeBron's speed though.
Agreed.

[Euroleague]

lol at "basically the same size"....

PUT DOWN THE CRACK PIPE

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