Why is Nene being a little bit*h?

[Clippersfan86]

This is the one guy who still hasn't done his physical and is holding up all the players from playing this weekend. Nick Young, McGee and Cook have already done their physicals. Is Nene still crying about the trade somewhere in protest? We need to see Nick Young drop 35 on the Pistons tomorrow...

Whenever Young finally steps on the court he says he will be a different player than the one he was in Washington as he hopes to stay in Los Angeles past this season.

"I can’t mess this up," Young said. "I’m focused now."

[UtahJazzFan88]

Never been a fan of Nene anyways, whenever I watch Denver games, it seems like he could be so good, but yet he just always spaces out of games for the longest periods of time.

[L.Kizzle]

I read he just bought a 8 million dollar house about a week before being traded. Id be pissed too.

[Flagrant 2]

Never been a fan of Nene anyways, whenever I watch Denver games, it seems like he could be so good, but yet he just always spaces out of games for the longest periods of time.
This. Whenever I watch Nene I get that same feeling too. Dude can be a straight up All-Star if he just gave a **** for 48 minutes.

[RaininTwos]

I read he just bought a 8 million dollar house about a week before being traded. Id be pissed too.
:biggums:

That's a huge crack party

[Clippersfan86]

I read he just bought a 5 million dollar house about a week before being traded. Id be pissed too.

Not saying he has no reason to be upset. He's the only player in the trade to end up in a worse situation. That being said... he gets fu**ing 15 mill a year! He needs to be a professional about it.

[L.Kizzle]

Not saying he has no reason to be upset. He's the only player in the trade to end up in a worse situation. That being said... he gets fu**ing 15 mill a year! He needs to be a professional about it.
What happens to his new house? He has to buy another 8 million dollar house now.

[WillyJakk]

Nene doesn't have the balls to take a physical.

[gyu]

Nene doesn't have the balls to take a physical.
I lol'd... here comes the guilt.

[Clippersfan86]

Nene doesn't have the balls to take a physical.

LMFAO!!! :roll: . What if this dude purposely fails the physical so he doesn't have to go to Washington and cancels the 3 way trade? Would be some shi*.

[Clippersfan86]

What happens to his new house? He has to buy another 8 million dollar house now.

I know! It's a tough life mannnnnnnnnnn :biggums:

[BallsOut]

LMFAO!!! :roll: . What if this dude purposely fails the physical so he doesn't have to go to Washington and cancels the 3 way trade? Would be some shi*.

Yeah what if the Clippers didn't get Nick Young for a bag of chips + 2nd round pick. :rolleyes:

[Clippersfan86]

Yeah what if the Clippers didn't get Nick Young for a bag of chips + 2nd round pick. :rolleyes:

:pimp: . U MAD that an ex Soap Opera actor is trolling the NBA and about to win GM of the year in a month?

[BallsOut]

:pimp: . U MAD that an ex Soap Opera actor is trolling the NBA and about to win GM of the year in a month?

no im mad cuz u talk smack about the lakers ripping off other teams all the time in trades like the other day in the sessions thread and then the clippers get nick young for basically nothing :facepalm

[Nanners]

What happens to his new house? He has to buy another 8 million dollar house now.

damn... thats rough

[Clippersfan86]

no im mad cuz u talk smack about the lakers ripping off other teams all the time in trades like the other day in the sessions thread and then the clippers get nick young for basically nothing :facepalm

I didn't expect the Clippers to get that Lakers swag man. I was shocked as hell and would be the first to admit we ripped Washington off. Both the Lakers and Clippers victimized the Cavs/Wizards.

[bluechox2]

lol, 5 years stuck in Washington will do that

[Clippersfan86]

lol, 5 years stuck in Washington will do that

LMAO! Has that ever happened where a player is traded against his will immediately following a fresh 5 year deal? Nene must hate life right now. He doesn't realize though.... he is a perfect big man to play with Wall. Wall+Nene can easily become a top 5 duo in the NBA in a year or two if they max each other out.

[Sarcastic]

Loyalty in the NBA is funny. When players want to move along they get called names. When a team trades a player that just signed an extension, it's just business.

[qrich]

Yeah what if the Clippers didn't get Nick Young for a bag of chips + 2nd round pick. :rolleyes:

What happened to people saying Nick Young is just a knucklehead chucker that won't make a major difference?

Plus, Young wanted to to come to LA, which is why the Clips were included as well instead of a Den-Was deal only. He wouldn't waive his bird rights to go to Denver, nor New York, as it was rumored he would.

If the Lakers wanted Young, they probably could have dealt Barnes + 2nd to acquire him instead of the Clippers did with Cook + 2015 2nd. But the Lakers were busy snabbing Sessions and dumping Fish/Walton, which was good enough for them.

[Clippersfan86]

Loyalty in the NBA is funny. When players want to move along they get called names. When a team trades a player that just signed an extension, it's just business.

Naw I think it's fair to call it both ways. That being said... I don't like the fact that McGee, Young are both ready to suit up and Nene is pouting and holding it up. I understand he's in no hurry to play for Washington.... but he needs to man up.

[Clippersfan86]

What happened to people saying Nick Young is just a knucklehead chucker that won't make a major difference?

Plus, Young wanted to to come to LA, which is why the Clips were included as well instead of a Den-Was deal only. He wouldn't waive his bird rights to go to Denver, nor New York, as it was rumored he would.

If the Lakers wanted Young, they probably could have dealt Barnes + 2nd to acquire him instead of the Clippers did with Cook + 2015 2nd. But the Lakers were busy snabbing Sessions and dumping Fish/Walton, which was good enough for them.

Only two teams Nick Young would have allowed a trade to was the Clippers and another undisclosed team (probably Lakers?). Reality here is.. he forced his way to one of those teams because they did try to send him to Denver and NY apparently and he declined both.

[Sarcastic]

Naw I think it's fair to call it both ways. That being said... I don't like the fact that McGee, Young are both ready to suit up and Nene is pouting and holding it up. I understand he's in no hurry to play for Washington.... but he needs to man up.

He just resigned this offseason with Denver to a multi year contract. He expected to be there a few years, not get traded in year 0.

[Clippersfan86]

He just resigned this offseason with Denver to a multi year contract. He expected to be there a few years, not get traded in year 0.

I agree. As I said... every right to be upset. No right at all to delay physical till last second and affect other teams. Denver, Clippers and his new Wizards teammates need every game they can get to get adjusted to these new players. These aren't role players man. These are very solid to good players that need to gel with new teams.

I know for damn sure the Clippers need the help IMMEDIATELY at SG. Denver is playing without a good center. Washington is shorthanded as fu** without Nene.

[Sarcastic]

I agree. As I said... every right to be upset. No right at all to delay physical till last second and affect other teams. Denver, Clippers and his new Wizards teammates need every game they can get to get adjusted to these new players. These aren't role players man. These are very solid to good players that need to gel with new teams.

I know for damn sure the Clippers need the help IMMEDIATELY at SG. Denver is playing without a good center. Washington is shorthanded as fu** without Nene.

You're saying this from your Clipper fan point of view. He can care less about your team's position in the standings.

[Sarcastic]

BTW, what free agent will ever sign with Denver again? Not a good business move to trade players that you just signed to a long contract.

[Clippersfan86]

You're saying this from your Clipper fan point of view. He can care less about your team's position in the standings.

Of course I'm seeing this for the gain of my team as well. I'm basically saying it's lame that one player can delay and affect multiple teams. The NBA needs to change this. I also am thinking about Washington though and his teammates. It's a limpdi*k move.

[The Macho Man]

Nene just chillin'

Hope he doesn't fail the physical though, don't want Mcgee and Young back on this shitty team.

[Clippersfan86]

BTW, what free agent will ever sign with Denver again? Not a good business move to trade players that you just signed to a long contract.

Denver isn't a desirable free agent destination to begin with.

[bluechox2]

Naw I think it's fair to call it both ways. That being said... I don't like the fact that McGee, Young are both ready to suit up and Nene is pouting and holding it up. I understand he's in no hurry to play for Washington.... but he needs to man up.

whats the rush anyhow when your traded to a lottery that is probably looking to tank for a high draft pick.

mcgee and young go from lottery to playoffs...i would be ecstatic to play

[qrich]

Nene just chillin'

Hope he doesn't fail the physical though, don't want Mcgee and Young back on this shitty team.

If Nene does fail the physical, would the Wiz still do Cook + 2nd for Young and would the NBA allow that part of the deal to go through in itself?

[Clippersfan86]

whats the rush anyhow when your traded to a lottery that is probably looking to tank for a high draft pick.

mcgee and young go from lottery to playoffs...i would be ecstatic to play

McGee and Young literally arrived that night and took the physical! Both got results this morning from what I heard :oldlol: . Basically means they rushed their asses out of Washington to join new teams immediately. Which is why I know this is Nene intentionally lagging. It's no accident that he's taking his sweet ass time. I won't be surprised if he purposely tries to fail the physical. If that happens Washington can probably just wave it and tell him to suck it the fu** up. I honestly doubt they would want McGee or Young back!

[bluechox2]

nene's trying to find a way to break his leg atm

[The Macho Man]

If Nene does fail the physical, would the Wiz still do Cook + 2nd for Young and would the NBA allow that part of the deal to go through in itself?

I'd prefer just the 2nd, they can keep Cook.

[Sarcastic]

You're acting like players are not human and should just do as their told, no matter the situation. In fact they breathe air just like you and me, and have emotions just like you and me.

[Clippersfan86]

You're acting like players are not human and should just do as their told, no matter the situation. In fact they breathe air just like you and me, and have emotions just like you and me.

It's a contracted job man. You are expected to do certain things that wouldn't apply to a normal working person. Obviously as long as he gets physical by tomorrow and doesn't throw the physical on purpose... he's within rules.. but you'd think he wouldn't want to send this kind of message to his new teammates.

[WeGetRing2012]

I'd be pissed too he just signed a 5yr contract to be with Denver after he had so many other options with teams. And then they just trade him a few months later :facepalm Why even make such a big deal of signing him if you were just gonna complain about his contract. The new CBA should have had something against this...like you can't trade players who have just signed new deals with you....

[kentatm]

BTW, what free agent will ever sign with Denver again? Not a good business move to trade players that you just signed to a long contract.

for real

Denver f-ed him hard.

Dude did them a solid re-signing there when he could have gone several other places and they pissed in his face.



Asked Tuesday night by phone how important it was to re-sign Nene, Nuggets executive Masai Ujiri said:

"Extremely. I think with all the momentum from last year, it's tough to lose players because we're trying to build this way a certain way. We need key players and Nene is a key player. He will be huge part of the Nuggets going forward."


link (http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_19541781)

[Go Getter]

You're acting like players are not human and should just do as their told, no matter the situation. In fact they breathe air just like you and me, and have emotions just like you and me.
This. Man, the OP sounds like a shiny little bitch on x mas eve...slow your roll young buck.....in due time.

[Go Getter]

It's a contracted job man. You are expected to do certain things that wouldn't apply to a normal working person. Obviously as long as he gets physical by tomorrow and doesn't throw the physical on purpose... he's within rules.. but you'd think he wouldn't want to send this kind of message to his new teammates.
His teammates, unlike you, understand the business aspect of NBA basketball.

[Xiao Yao You]

I read he just bought a 8 million dollar house about a week before being traded. Id be pissed too.

Summer home in the Rockies. Poor guy. :violin:


What happened to people saying Nick Young is just a knucklehead chucker that won't make a major difference?

He is a knucklehead chucker but he should still make a difference just because of his size.


what free agent will ever sign with Denver again?

Wilson Chandler immediately after Nene gets his fat ass to Washington actually.

[RazorBaLade]

same with fisher!!

[shallehalle]

What happens to his new house? He has to buy another 8 million dollar house now.
hmmm....

1) he has money to buy a new one
2) he can sell the old one

[ZenMaster]

You're acting like players are not human and should just do as their told, no matter the situation. In fact they breathe air just like you and me, and have emotions just like you and me.

This.

[kentatm]

Wilson Chandler immediately after Nene gets his fat ass to Washington actually.


not if he has the same agent as Nene.

they can kiss every single one of those players goodbye.

[Xiao Yao You]

not if he has the same agent as Nene.

they can kiss every single one of those players goodbye.

Must have a different agent because they've just been waiting around patiently for the trade to ahppen so he could get paid. Part of the reason the trade happened was to sign him.

[NuggetsFan]

BTW, what free agent will ever sign with Denver again? Not a good business move to trade players that you just signed to a long contract.

Same as before. Unless Denver shells out the dough nobody will care. If they do, than they'll be fine. Won't land the Dwight Howards of the world but if their willing to pay the other guy's they'll play.

Anyways don't even know why Nene cares. He played the field the entire FA. It's not like Denver got him at a discount. They payed, more than what most said they should. He's known for being a bitch and playing up his injuries and taking his sweet time. Sucks because dude is EXTREMELY talented. People look at his numbers and think that's Nene. Dude could be a 20\10 player no doubt in my mind. Was hoping him getting traded and John Wall would maybe turn the switch to go.

[Fiasco]

You're acting like players are not human and should just do as their told, no matter the situation. In fact they breathe air just like you and me, and have emotions just like you and me.

He's contractually and legally obligated to report to his new team. The fact that Nene was bent over by the Nuggets is irrelevant to this fact.

[Xiao Yao You]

They payed, more than what most said they should. He's known for being a bitch and playing up his injuries and taking his sweet time.


The other reason he got traded.

[NuggetsFan]

You're acting like players are not human and should just do as their told, no matter the situation. In fact they breathe air just like you and me, and have emotions just like you and me.

I would agree. After seeing Melo tear apart an entire team with his shit, throwing Billups to the fire. Even Nene holding on driving up his paycheck.

Players can f*ck off, getting paid millions. half of ya act like females for the majority of your contract so go where ya go. It'd be different if players didn't bitch, force owners hands, get coaches fired, get in off court trouble, feud with teammates, but they do. I know it's just some of them, but still. Ruin it for the good guy's.

Nene missed half the year with a f*cking calf strain soooo you collected your paycheck when you sat out half the year, collect it in Washington.

[RazorBaLade]

He's contractually and legally obligated to report to his new team. The fact that Nene was bent over by the Nuggets is irrelevant to this fact.

BOOM

[UtahJazzFan88]

Same as before. Unless Denver shells out the dough nobody will care. If they do, than they'll be fine. Won't land the Dwight Howards of the world but if their willing to pay the other guy's they'll play.

Anyways don't even know why Nene cares. He played the field the entire FA. It's not like Denver got him at a discount. They payed, more than what most said they should. He's known for being a bitch and playing up his injuries and taking his sweet time. Sucks because dude is EXTREMELY talented. People look at his numbers and think that's Nene. Dude could be a 20\10 player no doubt in my mind. Was hoping him getting traded and John Wall would maybe turn the switch to go.

This 100%. Nene has a lot of potential to be so good but yet whenever he played the Jazz back in January back in Denver, he had a spectacular 1st quarter and the rest of the game he mozed around and basically shut it down for the night. I didn't get it.

Nuggets made a damn smart move of getting rid of him after they overpaid like shit and realized he's not worth that contract.

[Sarcastic]

I would agree. After seeing Melo tear apart an entire team with his shit, throwing Billups to the fire. Even Nene holding on driving up his paycheck.

Players can f*ck off, getting paid millions. half of ya act like females for the majority of your contract so go where ya go. It'd be different if players didn't bitch, force owners hands, get coaches fired, get in off court trouble, feud with teammates, but they do. I know it's just some of them, but still. Ruin it for the good guy's.

Nene missed half the year with a f*cking calf strain soooo you collected your paycheck when you sat out half the year, collect it in Washington.

How'd he throw Billups to the fire? Denver made sure he was part of the deal cuz they didn't want to pay him. Just another player they threw away that wanted to be in Denver.

Nuggets are the least loyal team in the NBA. Hands down.

[NuggetsFan]

How'd he throw Billups to the fire? Denver made sure he was part of the deal cuz they didn't want to pay him. Just another player they threw away that wanted to be in Denver.

Nuggets are the least loyal team in the NBA. Hands down.

lmao for whatever reason Denver thought that team was ring worthy. Only reason Chauncey get traded was because Melo wanted out. Melo was even on record saying he felt bad for his teammates getting thrown into the fire because of him. Lawson, AA, etc. all came out after saying how nice it was the drama was over. That teams was a LEGIT playoff team ... a team that a few people thought could do damage, Melo turned it upside down. Nene? Awesome player, under played his talent, took his time with injuries, got paid MULTIPLE times. Laugh because you and other Knick fans? Use to use Nene getting paid and injured as an excuse why Melo never had talent around him.

Whatever. Doesn't even matter if Denver is loyal. After seeing Melo tear apart a competitive team because he wanted NY and his b*itch wanted NY really makes you see that 99% of the players just want money. Melo made your favorite team dish out all of their assests because of what? An extension? couldn't wait till FA and get paid 10 mill ... no enough for him.

That's the NBA. This isn't the NHL. Guy's don't wear their colors proud. They get paid, perform, call it a day. That's what Denver did. Smart move. So as a fan, thank you very much.

[Xiao Yao You]

Nene? Awesome player, under played his talent, took his time with injuries, got paid MULTIPLE times.

Yeah if I remember correctly he got his last contract at at least 10 mill a year while he was recovering from blowing out his knee which I thought was crazy at the time.

[Clippersfan86]

Just read that Nene took physical like 3 hours ago so around time I made this thread. Still lame because McGee, Young already passed theirs and ready to play. I really hope physical report is back by morning so Young can play.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

I agree. As I said... every right to be upset. No right at all to delay physical till last second and affect other teams. Denver, Clippers and his new Wizards teammates need every game they can get to get adjusted to these new players. These aren't role players man. These are very solid to good players that need to gel with new teams.

I know for damn sure the Clippers need the help IMMEDIATELY at SG. Denver is playing without a good center. Washington is shorthanded as fu** without Nene.

They tried to trade Nick Young to NY for who?

[Clippersfan86]

They tried to trade Nick Young to NY for who?

Not sure but according to "sources" there was an attempt to trade Young to Denver as part of McGee package as well as NY trade. He declined to waive Bird rights for either.

[Xiao Yao You]

They tried to trade Nick Young to NY for who?

Probably Mike Bibby! :roll:

[chazzy]

You can do whatever the fukk you want if you have one name

[Xiao Yao You]

Not sure but according to "sources" there was an attempt to trade Young to Denver as part of McGee package as well as NY trade. He declined to waive Bird rights for either.

He didn't decline to waive Bird Rights for Denver. He was never asked because he'd already said he would only do it for two places and Denver wasn't one of them so he was never part of any deal though Denver wanted him.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

Not sure but according to "sources" there was an attempt to trade Young to Denver as part of McGee package as well as NY trade. He declined to waive Bird rights for either.

Whatever, hes a talented scorer but hes one of the dumbest guys in the league. He wont even reach prime Jamal Crawford status with that lack of a bball iq. But, hell explode for you guys from time to time. Too bad Chauncey went down because your team needs a veteran leader badly to keep all those kids and personalities in check

[Clippersfan86]

He didn't decline to waive Bird Rights for Denver. He was never asked because he'd already said he would only do it for two places and Denver wasn't one of them so he was never part of any deal though Denver wanted him.

Splitting hairs here eh? According to sources the team DID try to get him out to Denver and he wouldn't wave option. As to whether or not he stopped it before or after it was put together doesn't matter. Reality is he would be in Denver right now if Washington had it's way. The ONLY reason Washington got Clippers involved was because of his request. Obviously Washington wasn't desperate to get a conditional 2015 2nd round pick and Brian Cook :oldlol: .

[Clippersfan86]

Whatever, hes a talented scorer but hes one of the dumbest guys in the league. He wont even reach prime Jamal Crawford status with that lack of a bball iq. But, hell explode for you guys from time to time. Too bad Chauncey went down because your team needs a veteran leader badly to keep all those kids and personalities in check

I think 15 ppg as a third option and our main stopper on the perimeter defensively is what he will be. Which is exactly what this team needs. Billups is back on the bench coaching the guys and once they get the defense down and get a new coach this team is really going to take off. Knicks fans saw how much D'Antoni was holding them back. Vinny is doing the same.

[wagexslave]

What happens to his new house? He has to buy another 8 million dollar house now.

First world problems.

[qrich]

He didn't decline to waive Bird Rights for Denver. He was never asked because he'd already said he would only do it for two places and Denver wasn't one of them so he was never part of any deal though Denver wanted him.

And what's the difference between what you said and Young declining to waive his bird rights?



Whatever, hes a talented scorer but hes one of the dumbest guys in the league. He wont even reach prime Jamal Crawford status with that lack of a bball iq. But, hell explode for you guys from time to time. Too bad Chauncey went down because your team needs a veteran leader badly to keep all those kids and personalities in check

He's a good shooter from range and a decent man defender, all the Clippers needed. He might not be Crawford, but having Bledsoe AND Young is superior to just having Crawford. With Young, also, being from Los Angeles, if Olshey can convince him to an extension at about 6 annually, it would be amazing. I also think Young would be better suited coming off the bench but playing the majority of the minutes. A 2nd unit of Mo Gotti - Bleds - Young - Evans - Martin sounds great to me.

I still expect the Clippers to flip Bledsoe for a mid-teens pick this summer on draft night and do what they can to extend Billups and Young. Also won't be shocked to see Olshey convince Mo to opt out and lock him into a 3 year extension at about 7 a year instead as well.

[Xiao Yao You]

do what they can to extend Billups and Young. Also won't be shocked to see Olshey convince Mo to opt out and lock him into a 3 year extension at about 7 a year instead as well.

Billups and Mo both want to start and both make more sense on the bench for the Clipps so I wouldn't count on it.

[Clippersfan86]

Billups and Mo both want to start and both make more sense on the bench for the Clipps so I wouldn't count on it.

Not true. Williams spoke out and said he loves his team/teammates dearly and would rather be a 6th man here than a starter on a bad or non playoff team. So unless a contender can offer him a starting job+ more money I highly doubt he refuses to take small pay cut. As for Billups... he's not going to be back till middle of next season at soonest and wants to remain here so I highly doubt he throws a fit over pay/role etc.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

I think 15 ppg as a third option and our main stopper on the perimeter defensively is what he will be. Which is exactly what this team needs. Billups is back on the bench coaching the guys and once they get the defense down and get a new coach this team is really going to take off. Knicks fans saw how much D'Antoni was holding them back. Vinny is doing the same.

Yeah youll get that out of him. You just have to hope Vinny is the type of coach to control him. Hes a guy who can win you some games, but left untamed and hell lose you some. By the way is Billups going to retire? His injury has a recovery time of nearly a year according to reports...

[(e)]

Still can't believe Nick Young got traded for a bag of fcking chips. I'd have loved him off the bench for Chicago. That way RIP can retire already

[Clippersfan86]

Yeah youll get that out of him. You just have to hope Vinny is the type of coach to control him. Hes a guy who can win you some games, but left untamed and hell lose you some. By the way is Billups going to retire? His injury has a recovery time of nearly a year according to reports...

I agree. Vinny is NOT the guy to manage this kind of talent/ego. Which is why lately the players look more disengaged and not like a super tight knit group anymore. They are looking like a first round exit until they get a good coach or something else lights a fire under their asses.

Naw Billups has said he feels he has at least 3-4 more good seasons left in him. Wants to remain with Clippers, wants to play. Definitely not retiring. He's already been out about 1.5 months now and apparently his therapy crew told him 7-9 more months or something like that. Which means middle of next season.

[qrich]

Billups and Mo both want to start and both make more sense on the bench for the Clipps so I wouldn't count on it.

I don't think Billups, at his age and coming off a season ending injury, is expecting to be a starter next year, especially since he might not be 100% to start. If Mo does want to start, and opts out to do so, it still isn't that horrible for the Clippers as it gives Olshey more flexibility and guys like Barbosa and Terry (I believe) are free agents this summer, both can replace MoGotti's instant offense off the bench. JR Smith could also be another viable replacement option as well. I'm not banking on Mo to opt out and hope Olshey/Roeser/Sterling keep their words, but as a player, would you prefer one year and 8.5 mil, with a possibility of a major injury, or a 3 year/21 deal? Might not be as much, but more long term security

[Xiao Yao You]

Not true. Williams spoke out and said he loves his team/teammates dearly and would rather be a 6th man here than a starter on a bad or non playoff team. So unless a contender can offer him a starting job+ more money I highly doubt he refuses to take small pay cut.

Believe it when I see it. People talk a lot. Nene was saying money didn't matter to him before he took the most money on the table. Why is he not in Miami if money didn't matter?


As for Billups... he's not going to be back till middle of next season at soonest and wants to remain here so I highly doubt he throws a fit over pay/role etc.

Even less likely he's back there unless they are a serious contender. If he's going to accept a bench role it would be in Miami or Chicago or Oklahoma as things stand now.


is Billups going to retire?

Says he's coming back.

[Clippersfan86]

Guys.... look at the Clippers cap next year. Just by keeping Evans for minimum, amnesty Gomes and let Foye walk. Combine that hopefully with a Billups pay cut and the Clippers have 8-10 mill in cap depending on what they do. If Mo walks we are talking literally 18 mill. That's enough to add very good 6th man+role players such as Ray Allen etc.

Use 6-7 mill a year on Nick Young. Have full mid level exception of 5 mill due to not being over cap. Good enough to add 2 good role players or bring Kenyon Martin back plus another solid free agent. That's with Mo staying. If he bails... TONS of cap to work with. No other contending team has the flexibility of the Clippers cap wise.

Obviously they gotta start saving for Griffin's big deal and CP3's slightly bigger salary..... but it's okay to be 10+ mill over the cap. All contending teams are way over the cap.

[Xiao Yao You]

Guys.... look at the Clippers cap next year. Just by keeping Evans for minimum, amnesty Gomes and let Foye walk. Combine that hopefully with a Billups pay cut and the Clippers have 8-10 mill in cap depending on what they do. If Mo walks we are talking literally 18 mill. That's enough to add very good 6th man+role players such as Ray Allen etc.

Use 6-7 mill a year on Nick Young. Have full mid level exception of 5 mill due to not being over cap. Good enough to add 2 good role players or bring Kenyon Martin back plus another solid free agent. That's with Mo staying. If he bails... TONS of cap to work with. No other contending team has the flexibility of the Clippers cap wise.

Obviously they gotta start saving for Griffin's big deal and CP3's slightly bigger salary..... but it's okay to be 10+ mill over the cap. All contending teams are way over the cap.

Probably say goodbye to Nick Young as well if Ray Allen comes. Don't forget the defending champions look to be getting Deron Williams with the flexibility to add another max guy for their own big 3 to challenge Oklahoma.

[Clippersfan86]

Probably say goodbye to Nick Young as well if Ray Allen comes. Don't forget the defending champions look to be getting Deron Williams with the flexibility to add another max guy for their own big 3 to challenge Oklahoma.

Yea was going to correct myself and add Mavs. They do indeed have same level of flexibility if not more. Difference is they have to let go of everyone good besides Dirk pretty much. They would be going for the "big 3" mold and losing a shitload of depth.

I would rather Young at this point to be honest. He's nearly as money as Ray on catch and shoot and corner 3 last I saw with percentages of like 46 percent. With CP3+Griffin drawing so much of the D he's going to be feasting on teams. Good chance to add a good back up center the level of Spencer Hawes etc so that every other game when DJ plays like sh** he can be benched.

[Xiao Yao You]

Yea was going to correct myself and add Mavs. They do indeed have same level of flexibility if not more. Difference is they have to let go of everyone good besides Dirk pretty much. They would be going for the "big 3" mold and losing a shitload of depth.

I would rather Young at this point to be honest. He's nearly as money as Ray on catch and shoot and corner 3 last I saw with percentages of like 46 percent. With CP3+Griffin drawing so much of the D he's going to be feasting on teams. Good chance to add a good back up center the level of Spencer Hawes etc so that every other game when DJ plays like sh** he can be benched.

They only have to give up everyone to get the 3rd max player and with Dwight off the table that probably won't happen. I'd take my chances with Deron/Dirk and another max guy with Carlisle as coach. Worked pretty good for Miami.

Allen still>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Young anyday. Young is ideally a 6th man

Hawes is going to get paid between 10-15 million dollars if you were paying attention this past off-season so shoot a little lower.

[Clippersfan86]

They only have to give up everyone to get the 3rd max player and with Dwight off the table that probably won't happen. I'd take my chances with Deron/Dirk and another max guy with Carlisle as coach. Worked pretty good for Miami.

Allen still>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Young anyday. Young is ideally a 6th man

Hawes is going to get paid between 10-15 million dollars if you were paying attention this past off-season so shoot a little lower.

I just meant a very solid center of that caliber and he was first example that came to mind. Allen is no question better than Young. Just saying Young is younger and can grow with this team for years where as Allen would be a couple year rental similar to Caron.

It worked well for Miami because you have 3 guys who are young and in their prime. Dirk is on the way down and it's very unlikely Dwight ends up in Dallas now with him opting in for one more season. In my mind CP3+Griffin is superior by a good margin to D Will+Dirk at this point in Dirk's career talent wise. This is a duo that if they learn to play together can be one of the all time greats.

[Xiao Yao You]

In my mind CP3+Griffin is superior by a good margin to D Will+Dirk at this point in Dirk's career talent wise. This is a duo that if they learn to play together can be one of the all time greats.

It's potentially better. Dirk is less than a year removed from leading his team to a championship. Add prime Deron to run the pick and pop with him they are instant championship contenders again. Carlisle is a great coach as well and you know Dallas will fill out the roster with plenty of talent as they always have regardless of whatever restrictions they will have because of the CBA.

[bagelred]

I read he just bought a 8 million dollar house about a week before being traded. Id be pissed too.

Makes sense. I'd be pissed too. Your whole life is thrown upside down on a moments notice. This isn't rotisserie basketball. This is people's lives, even if they make a lot of money. He probably had no clue Denver was even thinking of trading him. He figured he'd be in Denver the next four years at least.

[niko]

If i were him and i really didn't like Washington to that lavel, i wouldn't go. Call their bluff. They'd be forced to recant the trade at some point, he'd be back in Denver which would piss off no one except his GM who already gave him his money.

I don't blame the nuggets, but you have to be really thinking of players as nothing but chess pieces if you think that Nene wouldn't be pissed by this.

[SevereUpInHere]

LMAO! Has that ever happened where a player is traded against his will immediately following a fresh 5 year deal? Nene must hate life right now. He doesn't realize though.... he is a perfect big man to play with Wall. Wall+Nene can easily become a top 5 duo in the NBA in a year or two if they max each other out.


Holy Christ, are you f*cking serious?

[bagelred]

If i were him and i really didn't like Washington to that lavel, i wouldn't go. Call their bluff. They'd be forced to recant the trade at some point, he'd be back in Denver which would piss off no one except his GM who already gave him his money.


How can he realistically do that? He has to report or he won't get paid. The league can't let that happen or then every player is going to protest where they don't want to go.........

I mean, there's really nothing Nene can do, but I understand why he should pissed the f-ck off. He never thought he'd be traded this soon into a 5 year deal.

[niko]

How can he realistically do that? He has to report or he won't get paid. The league can't let that happen or then every player is going to protest where they don't want to go.........

I mean, there's really nothing Nene can do, but I understand why he should pissed the f-ck off. He never thought he'd be traded this soon into a 5 year deal.
If you don't report the trade is voided unless the team accepting you waives that right. There is a deadline, i don't remember what it is.

Players have sat out before, refused to report when drafted, etc. The league did not descend into anarchy.

Anyway, he'll report. NBA players have big ego's, and honestly if you have money Washington is a nice place to live. Get a nice big apt. across from the zoo, neighborhood is very nice.

[Tmuston Beltics]

Sorry for asking a stupid question, but what does taking a physical exactly mean? You do some tests to show you're healthy?

[Lebron23]

Wizards needs to draft Hardworking 6'10" Thomas Robinson. Nene-Robinson-Wall = a solid triumvirate.

[bagelred]

Sorry for asking a stupid question, but what does taking a physical exactly mean? You do some tests to show you're healthy?

Turn and Cough

[Derka]

Nene can stay gone til after the Celtics pound Washington on the 25th and I'm there to see it.

[kurple]

Never been a fan of Nene anyways, whenever I watch Denver games, it seems like he could be so good, but yet he just always spaces out of games for the longest periods of time.
this is what denver fans also thinks..

We hoped he could step up being the man this season, but that sure as hell didnt happen

[Rekindled]

Wizards needs to draft Hardworking 6'10" Thomas Robinson. Nene-Robinson-Wall = a solid triumvirate.

no they dont , they need to draft anthony davis to play defense along side nene

[Rake2204]

Sorry for asking a stupid question, but what does taking a physical exactly mean? You do some tests to show you're healthy?
Actually not a bad question. I'd bet it goes beyond the simple turn-and-cough routine. When reading Paul Shirley's book, he made physicals sound long and drawn out, going from medical station to medical station, getting just about everything tested. However, that was a pre-season physical he was speaking of I think, so I'm not sure if trades are any different. I'd assume they'd be quite in-depth to make sure the million dollar asset they were acquiring was completely healthy.

[Xiao Yao You]

Actually not a bad question. I'd bet it goes beyond the simple turn-and-cough routine. When reading Paul Shirley's book, he made physicals sound long and drawn out, going from medical station to medical station, getting just about everything tested. However, that was a pre-season physical he was speaking of I think, so I'm not sure if trades are any different. I'd assume they'd be quite in-depth to make sure the million dollar asset they were acquiring was completely healthy.

I imagine they'll want to take a look at his knee that had surgery on and make sure he's cancer free still.

[NugzFan]

BTW, what free agent will ever sign with Denver again? Not a good business move to trade players that you just signed to a long contract.


If we have the money, people will sign.

No worries

[NugzFan]

Denver isn't a desirable free agent destination to begin with.
:rolleyes:

[NugzFan]

not if he has the same agent as Nene.

they can kiss every single one of those players goodbye.

Which players?

[GOBB]

Sorry for asking a stupid question, but what does taking a physical exactly mean? You do some tests to show you're healthy?

Pretty much. I'm sure players have somewhat of a medical history. Thats reviewed as well. So if he had any surgeries, medical conditions its checked. I think Nene had knee surgery so they'd do strength tests. And with the Eddy Curry thing I'm sure they are big on checking out the heart as well.

[NugzFan]

How'd he throw Billups to the fire? Denver made sure he was part of the deal cuz they didn't want to pay him. Just another player they threw away that wanted to be in Denver.

Nuggets are the least loyal team in the NBA. Hands down.

Silly knick fans :oldlol:

[niko]

this is what denver fans also thinks..

We hoped he could step up being the man this season, but that sure as hell didnt happen
Very true. Unfortunately Nene has the concentration of a nuclear physicist compared to Mcghee. This is my favorite trade of the deadline just to see Karl on the sideline watching his new acquisition. Those tiny patches of hair he still has will be gone soon.

[macpierce]

I would sign in denver, theyve got some beautiful white women there

:kobe:

[The Macho Man]

I think 15 ppg as a third option and our main stopper on the perimeter defensively is what he will be. Which is exactly what this team needs. Billups is back on the bench coaching the guys and once they get the defense down and get a new coach this team is really going to take off. Knicks fans saw how much D'Antoni was holding them back. Vinny is doing the same.

He's not a bad defender but he's not any kind of stopper.

Is he playing today? I want to see how this goes.

[824]

I'm only 25 and have some minor heart issues and stuff and my physicals take a while so I imagine they are being examined for quite a while. Just because of the minor heart thing I have to go through a bit of extra testing.

[GOBB]

I'm only 25 and have some minor heart issues and stuff and my physicals take a while so I imagine they are being examined for quite a while. Just because of the minor heart thing I have to go through a bit of extra testing.

Heart issues at 25? Hereditery?

[Clippersfan86]

He's not a bad defender but he's not any kind of stopper.

Is he playing today? I want to see how this goes.

I know in general he's not a shutdown defender but you've seen 6'4 Foye and 6'1 Mo Williams play defense right? He will be a big improvement on D just because they are so crappy there. I'm not sure if he's playing..... Nene's physical had to have gotten results by now because game is in 3 hours. I won't hold my breath....

[The Macho Man]

Yes, I remember Foye unfortunately.

[Whoah10115]

Outside of the possible personal preference of the city of Denver, Nene has nothing to be upset about. Go live in DC, more Brazilians on the East Coastline, go and earn your shit you current underachiever. The Wizards WILL be in the playoffs next year and you can book it. John Wall has quietly put together a better sophomore year, after a rough start. He's going to have put together a very good season by the end of the year. Nene is great to play with, he just has to crash boards. And since Wall is already one of the best rebounding PG's in the league, maybe that will wake Nene up. No more crazy depth and being just one of the guys and not caring about making all-star games anymore. Now you're there and you're as good a player as they have right now. Go do your shit and get them in the playoffs next year. Inexcusable not to. Especially with their high pick this season.


Take your physical, ask Washington for time off and go back be as sad as you need to be about Denver. Washington won't mind. Let them suck a little bit more. Then, when you're over it, beast.

[Clippersfan86]

Yes, I remember Foye unfortunately.

Figured you've been a fan long enough lol. Foye's a nice guy... and a good player when he's on.... but he's so damn inconsistent!

[Clippersfan86]

Nick Young supposedly makes his debut today! Time to make a game thread.

[Whoah10115]

Denver fans, where do you think Nene is best? At center or at PF?

[kurple]

Very true. Unfortunately Nene has the concentration of a nuclear physicist compared to Mcghee. This is my favorite trade of the deadline just to see Karl on the sideline watching his new acquisition. Those tiny patches of hair he still has will be gone soon.
yeah, i agree that mcgee is a retard, but it was more of a amnesty without using it and gaining a player with potential (he's a retard, but everyone has to give him this) with the option to resign him in the summer or letting him go.. + a couple of nice pics (this years Wiz 2nd round I think).. I always like early 2nds more than late 1sts

[kurple]

Denver fans, where do you think Nene is best? At center or at PF?
I think he's equal at both, but he needs hustler by his side

[swi7ch]

should have signed with miami

[All Net]

I read he just bought a 8 million dollar house about a week before being traded. Id be pissed too.

damn :eek:

[Whoah10115]

I think he's equal at both, but he needs hustler by his side



He could have had Faried. That would have been so cool.



But if you're Washington and you get Anthony Davis, that would be pretty incredible. They also have Vesel

[Eric Cartman]

[QUOTE=Whoah10115]He could have had Faried. That would have been so cool.



But if you're Washington and you get Anthony Davis, that would be pretty incredible. They also have Vesel

[Salazaar]

Nene got totally raped by the Nuggets in the last couple of months. :oldlol: He was a free agent, could've gone anywhere, to a contender or at least another playoff team, but he decided to sign long-term with Denver. And what happens next? After just 3 months they ship him to such a woeful franchise not even dreaming about the playoffs, where he's gonna be stuck and waste his prime there... :facepalm

[Whoah10115]

You calling no homo on that?



Nah, we're both Brazilian.

[PHaYze]

Nene is a different kinda dude.

He's always been a passionate guy, he loved Denver, he loved the fans.

He's a large guy, trust me. He just always seems to defer, he never likes to take control, even when they beg. At times he just seems to lay there and just take it...

[Whoah10115]

Nene got totally raped by the Nuggets in the last couple of months. :oldlol: He was a free agent, could've gone anywhere, to a contender or at least another playoff team, but he decided to sign long-term with Denver. And what happens next? After just 3 months they ship him to such a woeful franchise not even dreaming about the playoffs, where he's gonna be stuck and waste his prime there... :facepalm



Washington will be in the playoffs next year :confusedshrug:

[rknine15]

I think he's equal at both, but he needs hustler by his side
Booker :rockon:

[Salazaar]

Washington will be in the playoffs next year :confusedshrug:

Wanna bet? :D

[Blue&Orange]

yeah, i agree that mcgee is a retard, but it was more of a amnesty without using it and gaining a player with potential (he's a retard, but everyone has to give him this) with the option to resign him in the summer or letting him go.. + a couple of nice pics (this years Wiz 2nd round I think).. I always like early 2nds more than late 1sts
I agree, i bet Nuggets were expecting to trade Nene for more when they resigned him, but it is what it is... now the Wizards :facepalm Why in hell do they want Nene contract, do they think they are in win mode right now? :lol

[MeLO MvP 15]

You're an idiot. These guys are people. Nene spent his entire career in Denver. He has been through a lot with that franchise and city (beating cancer, many injuries, finding his wife in Denver). And you want him to rush to go play for the Wizards who don't even want wins this year.

I get it, you want Young to play already... but you can't be this selfish and blind.

[Whoah10115]

I agree, i bet Nuggets were expecting to trade Nene for more when they resigned him, but it is what it is... now the Wizards :facepalm Why in hell do they want Nene contract, do they think they are in win mode right now? :lol


Their 4 best players are on rookie contracts for the next 2 and 3 years, for a combined $12Million a year. Whereas Nene is signed for 4 years, meaning they have cap. Meaning his big contract offsets their good players. Meaning they have a good player and gives John Wall something. Meaning that, with their high pick, they have no excuse not to make the playoffs (MAKE THE PLAYOFFS) next season.



This is an incredible move by Washington. :applause: for their GM.

[NumberSix]

I get it, you want Young to play already... but you can't be this selfish and blind.
This. Especially since the Slippers are gonna fcuking suck anyway

[maybeshewill13]

This. Especially since the Slippers are gonna fcuking suck anyway
Aww someone's unhappy there's another half decent team in LA now.

:kobe:

[Duderonomy]

Denver isn't a desirable free agent destination to begin with.
I don't know why, suburban colorado is one of the nicer cities capable of supporting an NBA team.

[BankShot]

I read he just bought a 8 million dollar house about a week before being traded. Id be pissed too.

He's only made like $10 million (pretax) in the NBA so far.... what the f*ck is he doing buying an eight million dollar house?

Thats how millionaire athletes end up with no money. :facepalm

[NumberSix]

He's only made like $10 million (pretax) in the NBA so far.... what the f*ck is he doing buying an eight million dollar house?

Thats how millionaire athletes end up with no money. :facepalm
Didn't he just sign this year for like $60m?

[BankShot]

Didn't he just sign this year for like $60m?

I misread... I thought he said that Nick Young bought a $8m house

[NugzFan]

I don't know why, suburban colorado is one of the nicer cities capable of supporting an NBA team.

Don't worry about him - besides the clippers he doesn't know shit.

[Clippersfan86]

Don't worry about him - besides the clippers he doesn't know shit.

You're so defensive towards me it's sad. Denver is BEAUTIFUL. I'd love to live there. Doesn't mean it's a free agent draw for NBA players. It never has been and I was just stating the facts, nothing personal.

[The Macho Man]

Who needs Nene when you got Kevin Seraphin.

[Clippersfan86]

Who needs Nene when you got Kevin Seraphin.

:applause: :applause: . Wizards balllllllin.

[niko]

Everyone is right. Denver is not a free agent draw (historically) but it is a nice city (i's gorgeous, it's a nice size, has a nice feel to it. i like it at least if my opinion matters...).

Close thread, apparently Nene is not a little bitch as he went to his physical.

[NugzFan]

You're so defensive towards me it's sad. Denver is BEAUTIFUL. I'd love to live there. Doesn't mean it's a free agent draw for NBA players. It never has been and I was just stating the facts, nothing personal.

You are a whiny homer - nothing defensive about it.

As for FAs - obviously we won't get a superstar. Apparently they will only sign with about 5 teams now...everyone else we have a shot.

I find it funny you talking about FA destinations. A year ago you never bring any of this up. Typical homer :lol