AI is a loser

[IamtheWalrus]

look at his progress in Denver. If he had a 10 year career in denver and his team performed the way it has been doing now, he would also demand a trade

from the looks of this,

philly losing was entirely his fault. glad we got rid of him.

[geeWiz15]

he doesn't exactly have a team right now. the Nuggets were mediocre when Melo and JR were active.

[gts]

look at his progress in Denver. If he had a 10 year career in denver and his team performed the way it has been doing now, he would also demand a trade

from the looks of this,

philly losing was entirely his fault. glad we got rid of him.

i think your larry brown underoos are to tight...

[Glove_20]

AI is a guy who just doesn't fit into teams because of how he plays and most likely won't win a title and is going to get a lot of teams losses...


AI just is not a winner...its his style of play

[bigkingsfan]

I didn't know a loser could carry his team to the NBA finals.

[Glove_20]

I didn't know a loser could carry his team to the NBA finals.
Once in a weak east

His style of play isn't meant to get wins...But that year he was just so good, his losing style of play wasn't strong as how well he played, coaching, and defensive structure of the team...

[IamtheWalrus]

when he went to the finals, it was a supporting cast that didn't do anyting but get boards and play d.

its nearly impossible to get a team together like that.

[GOBB]

I'd like to know who is in Denver that AI is playing with from you kids.

*waits*

[Glove_20]

I'd like to know who is in Denver that AI is playing with from you kids.

*waits*
Doesn't matter

The way he plays, he isn't going to get a lot of wins

[IamtheWalrus]

even playing with KG, AI would flop

he might as well play by himself.

[nugsfreak]

he doesn't exactly have a team right now. the Nuggets were mediocre when Melo and JR were active.
a team that was seven games above .500 is medicore? I thought that medicore meant that a team was right around .500 or a little below .500.

[Glove_20]

even playing with KG, AI would flop

he might as well play by himself.
Agreed

[IamtheWalrus]

everyone here agrees AI is better than melo.

so in actuality, they are substituting Melo for a better player in AI.

but even with this better player substitution, AI still manages to crash a team.

[nugsfreak]

Doesn't matter

The way he plays, he isn't going to get a lot of wins

well I like that y'all are not giving the nuggets anychance. all that means is that the nuggets have something to prove and little or no pressure on thim. I think that makes the nuggets a very dangerous team.

[nugsfreak]

everyone here agrees AI is better than melo.

so in actuality, they are substituting Melo for a better play in AI.

but even with this better player substitution, AI still manages to crash a team.
are uy really that clueless? i think it's quite funny.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[bigkingsfan]

Once in a weak east

His style of play isn't meant to get wins...But that year he was just so good, his losing style of play wasn't strong as how well he played, coaching, and defensive structure of the team...

Knock the guy all you want, at least he didn't lose to an 8th seed in the 1st round.

[Glove_20]

well I like that y'all are not giving the nuggets anychance. all that means is that the nuggets have something to prove and little or no pressure on thim. I think that makes the nuggets a very dangerous team.
They'll be decent with the talent they have on the floor...A 48 win team is what I'll say...Because both AI and Carmelo are great individually...but overall, their team isn't going to win as much as they are talented...

[GOBB]

Doesn't matter

The way he plays, he isn't going to get a lot of wins

It does matter you moron.

Boykins, Klezia, Diawara, D.Johnson, Najera, Camby, Evans. :rolleyes:


Seattle 13-24 with another loss tonight that you guranteed.


To the idiot Walrus Denver Nuggets had a different team than they do when AI arrived and started playing. Sorry you couldnt see that dipshyt.

[AI Nuggets3]

look at his progress in Denver. If he had a 10 year career in denver and his team performed the way it has been doing now, he would also demand a trade

from the looks of this,

philly losing was entirely his fault. glad we got rid of him.

if AI had spent 10 years in Denver he'd probably own a ring by now. i cant wait until Melo and JR come back. they're going to surprise people.

Iverson is playing like i expected him to play during this time period. he has no role whatsoever yet, because the current team is in shambles. when he does nothing but pass the 2nd unit misses jumpers nonstop. when he's tried to shoot more he's had so-so results. did anyone expect AI to carry Denver's 2nd unit to a 8-0 record? not even MJ could have carried the current Denver squad. Diawara and Boykins are logging 40 minute games! :oldlol: its tough when for a lot of the games you're missing Melo, JR, Kmart, Camby, and Nene. thats an entire starting 5 thats vanished.

like i keep saying, you cant judge anything yet. in 2 months if its a disaster, i'll be bashing right along with you. but the AI/Melo/Smith era hasnt even begun yet. the team AI is leading now is just as bad as the Sixers.

[IamtheWalrus]

It does matter you moron.

Boykins, Klezia, Diawara, D.Johnson, Najera, Camby, Evans. :rolleyes:


Seattle 13-24 with another loss tonight that you guranteed.


To the idiot Walrus Denver Nuggets had a different team than they do when AI arrived and started playing. Sorry you couldnt see that dipshyt.

ai got 5 games without just melo...

you got 5 games to prove me wrong...otherwise you need to shut the **** up.

[Glove_20]

It does matter you moron.

Boykins, Klezia, Diawara, D.Johnson, Najera, Camby, Evans. :rolleyes:


Seattle 13-24 with another loss tonight that you guranteed.


To the idiot Walrus Denver Nuggets had a different team than they do when AI arrived and started playing. Sorry you couldnt see that dipshyt.
Its the way he plays though...Its not a winning style...


You'll see

[nugsfreak]

Its the way he plays though...Its not a winning style...


You'll see

what style does he play that is not going to win games? I am waiting with curiousity

:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

[Younggrease]

Its the way he plays though...Its not a winning style...


You'll see

The way Phoenix plays has never won anything of real value, but no one calls Steve NAsh a loser. At least AI's style has gotten his team to the finals.

[IamtheWalrus]

AI isn't a good player for a team...

he is a marbury.

someone chucking 4-19 isn't going to win any games.

[nugsfreak]

The way Phoenix plays has never won anything of real value, but no one calls Steve NAsh a loser. At least AI's style has gotten his team to the finals.
agreed, and I truely believe that he'll take the nuggets to the promise land if not this year than next year.

I am also sure that teams will not want to face us once we have our full firing squad with our style offence.

[nugsfreak]

AI isn't a good player for a team...

he is a marbury.

someone chucking 4-19 isn't going to win any games.

he is light years better than Marburry, i think your ignorance is quite hilarious
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[IamtheWalrus]

what makes him better than marbury?

both are chuckers. both have "fake" assist numbers.

both don't make their teams better.

you need to shut the **** up and realize that AI isn't a winner like the rest of those chucking swingmen.

[nugsfreak]

what makes him better than marbury?

both are chuckers. both have "fake" assist numbers.

both don't make their teams better.

you need to shut the **** up and realize that AI isn't a winner like the rest of those chucking swingmen.
admit it your ignorant and have no baskitball IQ.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Younggrease]

what makes him better than marbury?

both are chuckers. both have "fake" assist numbers.

both don't make their teams better.

you need to shut the **** up and realize that AI isn't a winner like the rest of those chucking swingmen.

AI has been to the finals....AI has an MVP.....thats what makes him better than MArbury.

[HALLandOATES]

walrus just stfu man, you're typing garbage.

[joewait]

I was the first person to say this would happen. And everyone here called me a racist and an idiot. I could have told you this a while ago.
Just wait till Carmelo gets back, and all hell with break loose. At least one core player will get traded by summer

[Younggrease]

I was the first person to say this would happen. And everyone here called me a racist and an idiot. I could have told you this a while ago.
Just wait till Carmelo gets back, and all hell with break loose. At least one core player will get traded by summer


what exactly happened??? nothing... this isnt the team, AI is not trying to take over.... so what exactly happened????


You get rid of the two top scorers on the team... replace them with AI. AI doesnt know the offense or the players around him. If he scores forty his is a chucker and if he passes they lose.

[IamtheWalrus]

this denver team will not make the playoffs

i could see them plummet 5-7 games below .500.

[nugsfreak]

I was the first person to say this would happen. And everyone here called me a racist and an idiot. I could have told you this a while ago.
Just wait till Carmelo gets back, and all hell with break loose. At least one core player will get traded by summer

what the hell are u talking about? your bashing them before they have a chance to prove them selves. just let them play together before you cast judgment.

[joewait]

what exactly happened??? nothing... this isnt the team, AI is not trying to take over.... so what exactly happened????


You get rid of the two top scorers on the team... replace them with AI. AI doesnt know the offense or the players around him. If he scores forty his is a chucker and if he passes they lose.

The thing is that they really haven't played any good teams with him back. They even lost to his old 76ers squad! they lost to a dallas team without dirk. He isn't making them any better.

And I can tell you for a fact that him and carmelo are not compatible. Honestly what the hell was Denver thinking?? putting 2 guys on the same squad who play off of isolations and cannot move without the ball and who both demand 25+ shots a night to be effective. Not to mention both are defensive liabilities. It just reeks of disaster.

[IamtheWalrus]

The thing is that they really haven't played any good teams with him back. They even lost to his old 76ers squad! they lost to a dallas team without dirk. He isn't making them any better.

And I can tell you for a fact that him and carmelo are not compatible. Honestly what the hell was Denver thinking?? putting 2 guys on the same squad who play off of isolations and cannot move without the ball and who both demand 25+ shots a night to be effective. Not to mention both are defensive liabilities. It just reeks of disaster.

amen

and both need to chuck.

[nugsfreak]

this denver team will not make the playoffs

i could see them plummet 5-7 games below .500.

man you must be the most clueless person on this planet. do us all a favor and shut your pile hole.

[joewait]

what the hell are u talking about? your bashing them before they have a chance to prove them selves. just let them play together before you cast judgment.

True. but look: they even managed to lose to the hornets, when the hornets were missing their 3 best players. I can't see iverson making them any better. just my opinion

[IamtheWalrus]

man you must be the most clueless person on this planet. do us all a favor and shut your pile hole.

this is my opinion...you can have your own.

i think ai is a bad team player

he needs to play with guys that dont' need the ball.

he would even have problems palying with KG....he needs guys like mutombo, snow, hill, and a iggy...everyone else playing with him will crash.

its not a coincidence that every 2nd option has crashed when playing with AI.

[nugsfreak]

The thing is that they really haven't played any good teams with him back. They even lost to his old 76ers squad! they lost to a dallas team without dirk. He isn't making them any better.

And I can tell you for a fact that him and carmelo are not compatible. Honestly what the hell was Denver thinking?? putting 2 guys on the same squad who play off of isolations and cannot move without the ball and who both demand 25+ shots a night to be effective. Not to mention both are defensive liabilities. It just reeks of disaster.
and another ignorant person that has no clue what he is talking about. lets see your team play with out their main scorer and numerous injuries and see how many games you can win.

the 76er game we had the following players out
Melo
Camby
Nene
Jr smith
Kenyon martin ( out for the season)

can your team win a game with those core type players out?
:no:

[IamtheWalrus]

so scrubs v. scrubs w/ a "superstar" and they still lose

AI can't win.

[nugsfreak]

this is my opinion...you can have your own.

i think ai is a bad team player

he needs to play with guys that dont' need the ball.

he would even have problems palying with KG....he needs guys like mutombo, snow, hill, and a iggy...everyone else playing with him will crash.

its not a coincidence that every 2nd option has crashed when playing with AI.
your opinion has no backbone what so ever, so please get some backbone before you go typing your opinion. I agree that people are titled to their own opinion but at least have an intellegent one

[IamtheWalrus]

where is your backbone of ur argument?

because he was playing with scrubs?

and he can't even beat other teams with scrubs?

good argument.

[nugsfreak]

so scrubs v. scrubs w/ a "superstar" and they still lose

AI can't win.
could your team win with second string player playing big minutes? lets see
:no:

[IamtheWalrus]

i just read ur screen name...no wonder you were about to cry when the nuggets made this trade.

hahhaah....good game....

[IamtheWalrus]

could your team win with second string player playing big minutes? lets see
:no:

the sixers beat ur team with a "superstar"

HAHHA

[joewait]

and another ignorant person that has no clue what he is talking about. lets see your team play with out their main scorer and numerous injuries and see how many games you can win.

the 76er game we had the following players out
Melo
Camby
Nene
Jr smith
Kenyon martin ( out for the season)

can your team win a game with those core type players out?
:no:

yes. dallas won 8 or 9 straight i believe with both stackhouse and josh howard out. I'm fairly confident that dirk or duncan on the nuggets squad as is, would win at least 50 games

[IamtheWalrus]

you are filled with blindness my friend....

i was filled with blindness when sixers got cwebb....now i'm glad we traded AI...now i can see the light...it was him all along.

[Younggrease]

yes. dallas won 8 or 9 straight i believe with both stackhouse and josh howard out. I'm fairly confident that dirk or duncan on the nuggets squad as is, would win at least 50 games

no matter who you put dirk with, when he gets on the big stage he will just choke or start blaming his teammates for not guarding the other teams power forward better.

AI has achieved more than Dirk in his career....

the funniest part is im defending AI and i have always disliked his game but i respect it

[nugsfreak]

where is your backbone of ur argument?

because he was playing with scrubs?

and he can't even beat other teams with scrubs?

good argument.
you need good players in this league to win games, and when your missing your starting center and a cog in the mittle it makes it hard to win games. and add to that the amount of minutes rookie Diawra and second year man Kleiza are playing also makes it hard to win games. it is not on AI at all. I am an assitant coach for a highschool baskitball team and one thing the coaches preach is their is not I in team. A team wins and loses together.

[nugsfreak]

you are filled with blindness my friend....

i was filled with blindness when sixers got cwebb....now i'm glad we traded AI...now i can see the light...it was him all along.

i Laugh at your ignorance my friend
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[IamtheWalrus]

i just wanna wait how long before you change ur mind.

its going to be hilarious.

[IamtheWalrus]

you need good players in this league to win games, and when your missing your starting center and a cog in the mittle it makes it hard to win games. and add to that the amount of minutes rookie Diawra and second year man Kleiza are playing also makes it hard to win games. it is not on AI at all. I am an assitant coach for a highschool baskitball team and one thing the coaches preach is their is not I in team. A team wins and loses together.

you want "not I in team"

so your team trades for AI....:rolleyes:

[joewait]

no matter who you put dirk with, when he gets on the big stage he will just choke or start blaming his teammates for not guarding the other teams power forward better.

AI has achieved more than Dirk in his career....

the funniest part is im defending AI and i have always disliked his game but i respect it

lol man. Dirk guarded Duncan pretty well last week. Dirk didn't even have that bad a series vs Miami (his game 4 stats screwed his overall stats), the Heat were allowed to hack him and yet he's a choker. Blame his teammates? Dallas has the best team chemistry in the NBA by far. Jerry stackhouse, a career cancer, has said he wants to retire a Mav. No one seems to dislike playing with Dirk, the same obviously cannot be said for most other star players

[nugsfreak]

you want "not I in team"

so your team trades for AI....:rolleyes:

you know what I mean moron

:no: :no: :no: :no: :no:

[EricForman]

can't you clowns wait until melo and JR come back and wait at least 15-25 games before making this thread?

But honestly though, I don't see how AI+Melo suddenly title contenders either (Nor do I think they will even get past the second round). And it is possible they wouldn't co exist. So this thread may be legit... but not now, wait and see, clowns. Maybe by March this will make sense.

[IamtheWalrus]

predictions are more fun

we get to see who's wrong and who's a ******ger

[nugsfreak]

predictions are more fun

we get to see who's wrong and who's a ******ger
I agree with you for once!

:cheers:

[nugsfreak]

I have to admit this has been fun though

:rockon:

[statman32]

Here you go iverson haters

76ers won because they had more quailty players than the nuggets...who cares about iverson being a superstar when he has noone on his team right now that can provide any consitant offense besides boykins(whose shot selction is poor)

the nuggets also started najera at pf...of course the 76ers are gonna dominate the nuggets frontcourt even with camby out there

when the nuggets get melo back their starting line up is one of the best in the league with a good 6th man

Pg iverson
sg smith
sf melo
pf nene
c camby
6th man boykins
7th man evans

but right now they will struggle with no offense besides iverson and occasionly boykins...only nuggets big time homers would have told you they wouldnt

so shut up about nuggets falling 7 games under .500....not gonna happen

be happy that you played the nuggets now and not later cause you guys would get raped

[eliteballer]

How much longer are Melo and JR out?

[Y2Gezee]

JR plays in the game on ESPN tomorrow vs the Spurs. They may not win the game vs the Spurs because they're the Spurs. However, you will see a huge difference for the next 5 games, if you actually watch Nugz games (which most of you obviously don't). Having JR in will limit Earl's minutes taking that defensive liability out for someone that atleast tries. And his 3pt shooting will stop the zones that have made it hard for AI, same way they used to make it hard for Melo.

AI has been playing with no one. Camby has missed atleast 5 games in this stretch, and Nene probably the same. They have probably played in 2 games together. With the Nugz pace, there are usually going to be more possessions in the game, but they aren't making their shots like they did with Melo and JR playing, however the opposing teams are making more than with Melo and JR.

AI's playing with a team less talented than the Sixers right now, in about a week or so he'll be on possibly the most talented team in the league. A team that has 2 dominant scorers capable of taking over whenever they want, who are 2 of the best players on the break in the league and dominant in the halfcourt, and can both make plays. AI is also capable of being one of the better playmakers in the league as he's shown many times on this depleted Nugz team, and in Philly with some high double digit assist games. A great 3pt shooter in JR, and defensive stopper in Khouba. A top 6th man in Boykins. Great hustle play in Najera and Evans, who also may be the best pure rebounder in the league. Good interior D with Nene and Camby, and a post presence from Nene also (aswell as Melo). It'll be fun.

[NugzFan]

look at his progress in Denver. If he had a 10 year career in denver and his team performed the way it has been doing now, he would also demand a trade

from the looks of this,

philly losing was entirely his fault. glad we got rid of him.

worst thread of the year.

do you actually think its fair to judge him after 10 games in denver with this current team? have you not been paying attention to whats going on this year?

you sound bitter and looking for weak ways to rip on AI. hes on a better team now and im VERY GLAD philly got rid of him. :rockon:

losing in philly was all his fault?! :roll:

[NugzFan]

walrus just stfu man, you're typing garbage.

:cheers:

[NugzFan]

I was the first person to say this would happen. And everyone here called me a racist and an idiot. I could have told you this a while ago.
Just wait till Carmelo gets back, and all hell with break loose. At least one core player will get traded by summer

yeah - all hell will break loose...that makes sense. because both wanted AI in denver and both are happy the trade went through. OH NO! its going to be terrible!

[NugzFan]

The thing is that they really haven't played any good teams with him back. They even lost to his old 76ers squad! they lost to a dallas team without dirk. He isn't making them any better.

And I can tell you for a fact that him and carmelo are not compatible. Honestly what the hell was Denver thinking?? putting 2 guys on the same squad who play off of isolations and cannot move without the ball and who both demand 25+ shots a night to be effective. Not to mention both are defensive liabilities. It just reeks of disaster.

uh, dallas BARELY beat a nuggets team without melo and jr. who cares if they didnt have dirk - they still had a better team at the time and should have won.

what was denver thinking putting two dominant scorers together...one who needs the ball and can lead a team and the other who plays beautifully off the ball and can finish. yeah, that cant work. :rolleyes:

:oldlol: @ all the ignorant haters.

[NugzFan]

and another ignorant person that has no clue what he is talking about. lets see your team play with out their main scorer and numerous injuries and see how many games you can win.

the 76er game we had the following players out
Melo
Camby
Nene
Jr smith
Kenyon martin ( out for the season)

can your team win a game with those core type players out?
:no:

:applause: its almost TOO easy making these idiots look bad.

[JtotheIzzo]

yeah - all hell will break loose...that makes sense. because both wanted AI in denver and both are happy the trade went through. OH NO! its going to be terrible!

I would like to see the arrangement work, but you have to admit it isnt an open close case that everything will be peachy.

Both players have a history of pouting when they dont feel they are being treated right, and this situation is ripe for hurt feelings with them and an up and coming JR Smith all having to share the ball.

[NugzFan]

the sixers beat ur team with a "superstar"

HAHHA


its clear you are just trolling at this point.

[NugzFan]

you are filled with blindness my friend....

i was filled with blindness when sixers got cwebb....now i'm glad we traded AI...now i can see the light...it was him all along.


its clear that you are a sixers fan, and now all your posts all make perfect sense. :oldlol:

[NugzFan]

I would like to see the arrangement work, but you have to admit it isnt an open close case that everything will be peachy.

absolutely not - of course it COULD go wrong but thats a far bigger assumption than the one where it does work out.

why? because both have publically said they want it to work and will make it work. in fact they LAUGH at the idea that it wont.


Both players have a history of pouting when they dont feel they are being treated right, and this situation is ripe for hurt feelings with them and an up and coming JR Smith all having to share the ball.

and both have changed. AI has grown up and wants to win now. melo is far more mature than 2 years ago.

jr just makes it even better.

[hateraid]

Let's look at this on the flip side. Not only did The Nuggets lose Melo and JR when Iverson came aboard, they also lost Andre Miller. So now the Nuggets have to play under a whole different philosophy. That's 3 starters gone(arguably Joe Smith, their starting power forward behind Kenyon) that were a key cog to their winning before AI. Granted AI was never a smash hit right away, but with the core playing a prolonged period of time to mesh, no telling what could happen. Don't count the chicken before it's hatched. There has never been the proven deadly second scorer for AI, so when Melo comes back, make your assessment then.

[Human Error]

if AI had spent 10 years in Denver he'd probably own a ring by now.
This is one of the most retarded things I've read in a very long time.

It wasn't long ago that Denver became just a borderline playoff team. The odds are, 0 career postseason appearance for AI if he spent 10 years in Denver.

[statman32]

This is one of the most retarded things I've read in a very long time.

It wasn't long ago that Denver became just a borderline playoff team. The odds are, 0 career postseason appearance for AI if he spent 10 years in Denver.
that statement is just as bad as his lol

[Human Error]

that statement is just as bad as his lol
In the last 10 years in West... Shaq was in his prime, Duncan and Nowitzki were also there, the Kings with healthy Webber were also a championship caliber team. If you honestly think that my statement is as bad as his(or hers), you deserve a smack in the mouth.

[statman32]

In the last 10 years in West... Shaq was in his prime, Duncan and Nowitzki were also there, the Kings with healthy Webber were also a championship caliber team. If you honestly think that my statement is as bad as his(or hers), you deserve a smack in the mouth.
I dont care how many good teams the west has had in the last ten years...if you dont think a iverson led denver team could have made it to the playoffs at least ONCE...you sir are just as bad as him

[Rasheed1]

its clear that you are a sixers fan, and now all your posts all make perfect sense.

that clown is not a sixer fan.... he's some troll looking for attention...

stupid reject is what he is

[TheBynumProject]

AI's preformance thus fan in Denver has been mediocre. He is capable of more than he's shown, becasue I've been a fan of his for a long time and know what he can do. My biggest beef is overdribbling. I think when its said and done he'll definatley make his mark here, hopefully in the playoffs.

[Glove_20]

You guys don't understand


Iverson IS one of the most talented individual players...But his style of play does NOT fit into team games...He might be talented, but his style of play isn't a winning style...

[20 Dimes A Game]

i feel a bit sorry for him....

he's so talented (and he knows it) that if he's on a bad team he tries to do it all himself and looks selfish, but i can also see sometimes he can be a bit greedy.

basically im saying he will NEVER win a title

[ak47smohawk]

melo is far more mature than 2 years ago.


Really? So being suspended this year makes him more mature than last year or the year before?

[TheBynumProject]

Melo is ten times more mature than 2 years ago, suspension or not. He works hard on his game now, he didn't until Karl came on.

[artificial]

Walrus, you were defending AI at all costs when he was a sixer all the time, and as soon as he gets traded you start taking shots at him.

I must admit Jeff did a good job on labeling you simple minded. "on my team -> blind homer; gets traded -> lets hate on him". pathetic

[Budadiiii]

:applause: :applause:

[TheMarkMadsen]

:applause: :applause:


AI>>>>>>> your favorite player

[OldSkoolball#52]

AI>>>>>>> your favorite player


AI ======= Kobe

[Bandito]

AI ======= Kobe
Kobe > Lebron

AI ====== Kobe


therefore:
AI > Lebron

stay :mad:


:pimp: