How much is Jeremy Lin gonna get paid?

[Pinkhearts]

I actually quit this forum, but this guy made me come back!

Well from a D-league with the min contract.

Now how much do you think he should be paid?

Has proven he can put up all star numbers (keeping it up is an ongoing question), Is wildly popular and marketable especially to the Asian countries, already brought MSG to record ticket sales.

Max contract?

Are the Knicks going to have the highest salary in the league?

[Chrono90]

I actually quit this forum, but this guy made me come back!

Well from a D-league with the min contract.

Now how much do you think he should be paid?

Has proven he can put up all star numbers (keeping it up is an ongoing question), Is wildly popular and marketable especially to the Asian countries, already brought MSG to record ticket sales.

Max contract?

Are the Knicks going to have the highest salary in the league?

at least $5mil a year to me at this point

[GOBB]

Anyone giving him 5mil a year is a fool. $3mil per at best for 2yrs

[brain drain]

JJ Barea got about 5 million per year after a few good games in the playoffs.

If Lin keeps this up, he'll get at least the same, and probably way more.

[Bob Cousy]

well lets see.

for reference a player like Marcus Thontorn can make 5 yrs/40 mil as a key role player on the Kings.

but he had 2 prior years of experience and good play before receiving that contract.

I dunno man.

I think Lin will get something like 4 yrs/35 mil maybe ? if he continues to play at a moderately high level. Plus he's a good draw for NYK, fans love him.

Im just speculating.

[Sarcastic]

I believe the most he can be offered is $5 million, and he will be restricted so the Knicks can match.

[irondarts]

well lets see.

for reference a player like Marcus Thontorn can make 5 yrs/40 mil as a key role player on the Kings.

but he had 2 prior years of experience and good play before receiving that contract.

I dunno man.

I think Lin will get something like 4 yrs/35 mil maybe ? if he continues to play at a moderately high level. Plus he's a good draw for NYK, fans love him.

Im just speculating.

Thornton is a 20ppg guy, and one of their key scorers.

[bagelred]

He's a restricted free agent. The most any team can offer him is the average player salary. So he'll be making about $5 million a year most likely. Just depends how many years Knicks want to commit to him.

[Bob Cousy]

Thornton is a 20ppg guy, and one of their key scorers.Yep.

how about finishing this season as a 13-15 ppg 5-6 apg player and a glue guy for your entire team ? (Lin)

almost the same value as Thornton no ?

but since he's a restricted FA, his contract will be looking more like probably 4 yrs/20 mil.

which would be a low ball unfortunately.

[Clutch]

I believe the most he can be offered is $5 million, and he will be restricted so the Knicks can match.
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[BigTicket]

It's obviously going to depend on how he does for the rest of the season, but just based on the promise he has shown so far, I would be very surprised if he doesn't get at least $5M per year, especially when you consider the long history the Knicks have of overpaying players.

[b4uc.23]

vaLINtines day!!

[InfiniteBaskets]

Lin's markatabliliy will be an inherent advantage for the Knicks. Even if Lin plays basketball worth 3M a year, a team like the Knicks can make say 10M in revenue based solely off their fanbase while a team like New Orleans may only be able to make 5 or 6 mil from their fanbase. As long as Lin plays starter-worthy basketball.

So the Knicks technically should be able to match any offer from another team while still maintaining a higher profit margin.

[GOBB]

You guys sound like a bunch of bad GMs in the NBA. The reason why players are overpaid.


It's obviously going to depend on how he does for the rest of the season,

Thats key.

[JtotheIzzo]

The closest thing to a legit PG he has gone up against is Rubio (other than D Will, who didn't really seem to be playing hard), he torched the Lakers the day after they played OT in Boston, need to see more...

But he will stick around the league for a long time now as he can sell tickets and merch.

[bagelred]

You guys sound like a bunch of bad GMs in the NBA. The reason why players are overpaid.



Thats key.

Well obviously. We're assuming he continues to play well the rest of the year. If he establishes himself as a legit starting PG, then $5 million a year isn't that much really. Most NBA starters get more.

[irondarts]

You guys sound like a bunch of bad GMs in the NBA. The reason why players are overpaid.



Thats key.
Well the question is, how much will he get paid? He'll get paid by NBA GM's who overpay, therefore we are acting like NBA GM's and saying he's going to get overpaid, which he will. Because let's face it, some GM is going to throw a high offer sheet at him, it's just bound to happen.

I'm going to guess 4 yrs/20 million.

[Sarcastic]

Considering how marketable he is to the Asian community, which is huge in NY, $5 million is actually quite cheap.

[Phenith]

I believe the most he can be offered is $5 million, and he will be restricted so the Knicks can match.

Yup, he is limited to the mid level (whatever that ends up being) and the Knicks can match without having to use their mid level.

If he continues at even 50% of what he has done over the past 5 games, he will be a lock to get the mid level for marketing purposes alone. So it comes down to whether he signs a 1 year deal to hit unrestricted free agency the following year or he takes the security of a long term deal while he can.

[Bob Cousy]

Yup, he is limited to the mid level (whatever that ends up being) and the Knicks can match without having to use their mid level.

If he continues at even 50% of what he has done over the past 5 games, he will be a lock to get the mid level for marketing purposes alone. So it comes down to whether he signs a 1 year deal to hit unrestricted free agency the following year or he takes the security of a long term deal while he can.
there is absolutely no way a walk-on/journeyman passes up on a guaranteed 20 mil to explore FA the following off season.

[Clutch]

The closest thing to a legit PG he has gone up against is Rubio (other than D Will, who didn't really seem to be playing hard), he torched the Lakers the day after they played OT in Boston, need to see more...

But he will stick around the league for a long time now as he can sell tickets and merch.
Lin completely owned Deron Williams too.

D-Will didn't even score on Lin while Jeremy torched him.

[bagelred]

Knicks got some bad news.


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(2/2) Under "Arenas" rule, no team can offer Lin more than avg player salary, approx $5 mil. Knicks can match using midlevel exception,
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(1/2) Lots of confusion out there. To repeat: Lin will be restricted FA. No Bird rights. But Knicks can match any offer.


So what this means is.....Lin is restricted, HOWEVER, they have no Bird Rights (that seems like Bullshit to me, since they got him off waivers). If they had Bird rights, they could sign Lin and STILL have the MLE for someone.

So Knicks can match any offer, but they must use their MLE exception on Lin.

That really sucks......so essentially, the MLE is gone if we keep Lin.

Oh well, at least he's restricted.

[Crown&Coke]

a billion a year, get it done Dolan!!!

[GOBB]

Knicks got some bad news.



So what this means is.....Lin is restricted, HOWEVER, they have no Bird Rights (that seems like Bullshit to me, since they got him off waivers). If they had Bird rights, they could sign Lin and STILL have the MLE for someone.

So Knicks can match any offer, but they must use their MLE exception on Lin.

That really sucks......so essentially, the MLE is gone if we keep Lin.

Oh well, at least he's restricted.

So basically whatever rookies NYK drafts + Lin (say a team offers the most they are allowed and NYK matches) are the only additions NY can make? Outside of trading of course, just in terms of signings.

[midatlantic09]

Assuming he cools off a bit and finishes the season with averages around 13 ppg and 8 assists (he's averaging 12 ppg now), Id say he's worth a 2 year deal worth $12 million.

However, if he somehow keeps playing like he's played the past 5 games for the rest of the season, I wouldn't be surprised if some team took a gamble and offered him a 3 year/30 million deal.

[Clutch]

So basically whatever rookies NYK drafts + Lin (say a team offers the most they are allowed and NYK matches) are the only additions NY can make? Outside of trading of course, just in terms of signings.
We also have a $2.5 mil. exception this season (we can use it on J.R.Smith on someone else from China).
Other than that we could only offer league minimum if we sign Lin for MLE in the summer.

[TimmyDuncan]

Considering how marketable he is to the Asian community, which is huge in NY, $5 million is actually quite cheap.

This. The team that will sign him will get plenty of money on the asian market.

[bagelred]

So basically whatever rookies NYK drafts + Lin (say a team offers the most they are allowed and NYK matches) are the only additions NY can make? Outside of trading of course, just in terms of signings.

Right. Well first of all, Knicks have no draft pick in 2012 (Houston has it...Top 5 protected), so that's not helping.

But yes, Knicks can keep players they have now, resign any players that have Bird rights, or have to use exceptions to sign players. Without the MLE, it's basically the Bi-Annual exception, and veteran's minimum deals.

So the roster next year will be:

Melo
Amare
Chandler
Balkman :facepalm
Douglas
Shumpert
Harrellson
Jordan (not the GOAT)
Lin (using MLE)
Fields (using Early Bird rights/Restricted FA)
Walker (Bird rights if still want him)

Everyone else: Jeffries, Novak, Davis, Bibby, and any other free agent they want will basically have to use veteran's minimums.

[Sarcastic]

Assuming he cools off a bit and finishes the season with averages around 13 ppg and 8 assists (he's averaging 12 ppg now), Id say he's worth a 2 year deal worth $12 million.

However, if he somehow keeps playing like he's played the past 5 games for the rest of the season, I wouldn't be surprised if some team took a gamble and offered him a 3 year/30 million deal.

They can't. They can offer $5 million.

[imdaman99]

he is getting paid 100 million within our hearts

[InfiniteBaskets]

They can't. They can offer $5 million.

That kind of sucks for Lin. Even if he averages 30/15 and leads Knicks to championship with Melo and Amare on the bench, he'll only get 5 mil a year max?

Reality blended with optimism would lead me to believe he can produce Tony Parker like numbers like 17 and 8 or something, which would be unfortunate if he only got 5 mil a year. If that happens it would be ironic an undrafted in the 1st rounder into star Arenas screws over a pure undrafted star.

[GOBB]

That kind of sucks for Lin. Even if he averages 30/15 and leads Knicks to championship with Melo and Amare on the bench, he'll only get 5 mil a year max?

Reality blended with optimism would lead me to believe he can produce Tony Parker like numbers like 17 and 8 or something, which would be unfortunate if he only got 5 mil a year. If that happens it would be ironic an undrafted in the 1st rounder into star Arenas screws over a pure undrafted star.

How does it suck when he was looking for jobs on monster.com while waiting for email responses to teams overseas he was interested in? You go from making peanuts with no job security to making $5mil per? Thats a good deal.

If he does what you claim? Couldnt he just sign a 1yr deal? I dont know how this works but he doesnt have to sign a long term deal. Being restricted doesnt that mean he is automatically due a certain amount for 1 yr if he elected to not sign an offer sheet or whatever NYK offered him in terms of a contract (long term)?

He can go that route. Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm clueless when it comes to this part of bball.

[niko]

How does it suck when he was looking for jobs on monster.com while waiting for email responses to teams overseas he was interested in? You go from making peanuts with no job security to making $5mil per? Thats a good deal.

If he does what you claim? Couldnt he just sign a 1yr deal? I dont know how this works but he doesnt have to sign a long term deal. Being restricted doesnt that mean he is automatically due a certain amount for 1 yr if he elected to not sign an offer sheet or whatever NYK offered him in terms of a contract (long term)?

He can go that route. Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm clueless when it comes to this part of bball.
He'll sign 1 or 2 years with Knicks for MLE and then they can sign him to a big deal for bird rights. I know NYC gets overstated as a market for some guys (like a Lebron, etc.) but it's not overstated here. The huge asian population here is helping to push the phenomenon. He's going to do just fine. Whatever salary he won't get from a bigger contract, he'll get from ad dollars if he wants it. He is a god already. If the Knicks win (and i know we are far from that) he'll literally have a lifetime blank check in the city. And the NYC / Chinese market connection is ridiculous.

I'm having trouble feeling bad that the NBA is not set up where a star pops up and the team that got him automatically loses him. People want us to lose him to like Toronto where he'd get paid more and the phenomenon would die (no offense but Raptors are not tearing it up right now).

My wife is japanese and identified because he's asian. She wanted a shirt. I went to Modells where they know me (i live practically next door) and they went to the back where they saved some shirts. They went through hundreds of shirts from Saturday morning - by 3pm when i went (and also bought Twisted Metal at the local video game store which i haven't been able to play yet!). Hundreds. In a local store in Brooklyn.

[bagelred]

That kind of sucks for Lin. Even if he averages 30/15 and leads Knicks to championship with Melo and Amare on the bench, he'll only get 5 mil a year max?

Reality blended with optimism would lead me to believe he can produce Tony Parker like numbers like 17 and 8 or something, which would be unfortunate if he only got 5 mil a year. If that happens it would be ironic an undrafted in the 1st rounder into star Arenas screws over a pure undrafted star.

There are rules so players in first few years can't make too much money. Blake Griffin is only making $5.7 million in his 3rd year and he is one of the best players in the league.

So yes he can "only" get 5 million a year max. He'll still be doing better than most 1st round picks stuck on their rookie scale contract. Like Rubio.

[InfiniteBaskets]

There are rules so players in first few years can't make too much money. Blake Griffin is only making $5.7 million in his 3rd year and he is one of the best players in the league.

So yes he can "only" get 5 million a year max. He'll still be doing better than most 1st round picks stuck on their rookie scale contract. Like Rubio.

True but Blake is going to get paid once he's out of his rookie contract. If hypothetically Lin performs like crazy this season, it will be a rare case where a player proves his worth before his contract runs out, and then cannot cash in to his worth on the upcoming contract.

Both Rubio and Blake can sign contracts gauged at the level of their play after their initial one runs out.

[InfiniteBaskets]

How does it suck when he was looking for jobs on monster.com while waiting for email responses to teams overseas he was interested in? You go from making peanuts with no job security to making $5mil per? Thats a good deal.

If he does what you claim? Couldnt he just sign a 1yr deal? I dont know how this works but he doesnt have to sign a long term deal. Being restricted doesnt that mean he is automatically due a certain amount for 1 yr if he elected to not sign an offer sheet or whatever NYK offered him in terms of a contract (long term)?

He can go that route. Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm clueless when it comes to this part of bball.

That's what I'd imagine he'd do. Just thought his case was interesting.

[niko]

True but Blake is going to get paid once he's out of his rookie contract. If hypothetically Lin performs like crazy this season, it will be a rare case where a player proves his worth before his contract runs out, and then cannot cash in to his worth on the upcoming contract.

Both Rubio and Blake can sign contracts gauged at the level of their play after their initial one runs out.
Lin will have full bird rights at the same time as they would get their big deals. I'm not feeling this argument.

[CeltsGarlic]

The better question is he gonna get max? The answer is no, he wont.

[redhonda76]

Considering how marketable he is to the Asian community, which is huge in NY, $5 million is actually quite cheap.

This. Other teams are willing to pay more than his worth because he sell tickets, advertisements, etc. It's all about $$ in return.

[bagelred]

This. Other teams are willing to pay more than his worth because he sell tickets, advertisements, etc. It's all about $$ in return.

This is moot because Jeremy is restricted FA.

[GOBB]

Thanks

[Faptastrophe]

Bazillion dollars!