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MooseJuiceBowen
12-18-2011, 02:11 AM
steve nash with a little bit of magic johnson mixed in. i love his court vision. id like to see him play defense like he did overseas tho

Meticode
12-18-2011, 02:35 AM
If you don't count the fact Rubio can't shoot for crap then yes.

Scoooter
12-18-2011, 02:43 AM
Yeah, Steve's one of the greatest shooters to ever play the game.

DJmicah
12-18-2011, 02:46 AM
Stash Nash? :applause:

stallionaire
12-18-2011, 02:46 AM
Rubio can still be a deadly shooter. His jumper looks better and there's no doubt about that. He's still young, things will come. Adelman says his first priority with Rubio is making sure he emphasizes his court vision and that he has a solid jumper. It'll happen.

Cali Syndicate
12-18-2011, 02:46 AM
Stephen Curry is Nash 2.0 not Rubio.

Collie
12-18-2011, 03:00 AM
Stephen Curry is Nash 2.0 not Rubio.

Without the passing.

OmniStrife
12-18-2011, 03:25 AM
Rubio's passing + Curry's shooting, that's as close as you'd get to Steve...

Oh and Jimmer's D... :lol

Tha Catalyst
12-18-2011, 03:50 AM
Rubio's passing + Curry's shooting, that's as close as you'd get to Steve...

Oh and Jimmer's D... :lol
Spot on

cavEman2
12-18-2011, 04:02 AM
Rubio's passing + Curry's shooting, that's as close as you'd get to Steve...

Oh and Jimmer's D... :lol

:roll: :roll:

Joshumitsu
12-18-2011, 05:14 AM
I feel like he could be the next Kidd.

6/6/7 in 23 minutes is Kidd-esque.

knightfall88
12-18-2011, 05:19 AM
Rubio reminds me of Steve Nash without the basketball ability

GoldMedallist
12-18-2011, 05:19 AM
Rubio can be a good defender and a great passer, but his shoot is horrible. I have been watiching him play and he has not improved it in 5 years.

The hope for him has a name: Calderon. Jose came to NBA with a horribe 16% 3PG in Euroleague: With 2 years of specific training, he improved to 48%.

Rubio can still be a shooter, he is young. But Adelman need to hire a good specialist and make him work with his shoot al teas one hour a day. If he can do as Calderon and become a good shooter, he could become a very good nba player. If not, he would stay as a ppor version of jason williams.

R.I.P.
12-18-2011, 05:29 AM
He

alenleomessi
12-18-2011, 05:49 AM
Defensive Nash, without the shooting

chains5000
12-18-2011, 06:02 AM
I feel like he could be the next Kidd.

6/6/7 in 23 minutes is Kidd-esque.
This should be his goal, he needs to develop a Kidd like 3 point shot and will be a good NBA starter for years.

alenleomessi
12-18-2011, 06:16 AM
This should be his goal, he needs to develop a Kidd like 3 point shot and will be a good NBA starter for years.
well its not like kidd was a good shooter in his early years

chains5000
12-18-2011, 06:18 AM
well its not like kidd was a good shooter in his early years
Yeah, but he was a better overall player. I was making the comparison to an older, less athletic Kidd.

Cali Syndicate
12-18-2011, 06:49 AM
Without the passing.

Curry is a very capable passer. He might not have the floor vision Nash has but being only two years into the league, his vision and IQ is excellent.

He could easily be averaging 8 or 9 assist per night if he doesn't play alongside Ellis.

calvin671996
12-18-2011, 07:58 AM
Without the passing.
Curry's passing skill are great actually, however his guard partner is Monta

9512
12-18-2011, 08:13 AM
"Stash Nash" LOL :roll:

Someone photoshop an Adam Morrison mustache on Steve's face. :lol

Fiba basketball
12-18-2011, 12:45 PM
I think Rubios passing is overrated . His passing is good but not good enough to be one of top passers . I can think of 10 players only from Europe that are better passers than him , and you have more in NBA .

JMT
12-18-2011, 12:47 PM
Rubio shows a strong similarity to Nash.

Both will be out of the league in a couple years.

MooseJuiceBowen
12-18-2011, 03:14 PM
Rubio shows a strong similarity to Nash.

Both will be out of the league in a couple years.

there are some serious EURO haters on ISH. no wonder the spurs are hated here

Fiasco
12-18-2011, 03:17 PM
Jason Kidd without the defense, more like.

JMT
12-18-2011, 03:55 PM
there are some serious EURO haters on ISH. no wonder the spurs are hated here

No, simply don't think Rubio has a promising NBA career in front of him.

See, some people can actually have an opinion about a particular player that doesn't extend to an entire continent! :wtf:

Euroleague
12-19-2011, 01:33 AM
Rubio can be a good defender and a great passer, but his shoot is horrible. I have been watiching him play and he has not improved it in 5 years.

The hope for him has a name: Calderon. Jose came to NBA with a horribe 16% 3PG in Euroleague: With 2 years of specific training, he improved to 48%.

Rubio can still be a shooter, he is young. But Adelman need to hire a good specialist and make him work with his shoot al teas one hour a day. If he can do as Calderon and become a good shooter, he could become a very good nba player. If not, he would stay as a ppor version of jason williams.

Rubio was taking 1000 jumpers a day the last 2 years in Barca.

Euroleague
12-19-2011, 01:37 AM
I think Rubios passing is overrated . His passing is good but not good enough to be one of top passers . I can think of 10 players only from Europe that are better passers than him , and you have more in NBA .

Above average Euroleague passing point guard = probably top 5 best passer in the NBA, maybe even the second best passer in the NBA.

NBA is extremely limited league in number of good passers.

FireMcFailPlease
12-19-2011, 01:52 AM
more shit pulled out of your ass which you try to pass as facts? who are the top 5 passers in euroleague?

what is their pass efficiency, completion percentage, td-interception ratio etc

ConanRulesNBC
12-19-2011, 02:38 AM
Stash Nash? :applause:

Ribio Rubio does remind me of Stash Nash.

Euroleague
12-19-2011, 03:58 AM
more shit pulled out of your ass which you try to pass as facts? who are the top 5 passers in euroleague?

what is their pass efficiency, completion percentage, td-interception ratio etc

Rubio in Euroleague isn't even close to the best passer there. In the NBA people are literally drolling over his "out of this world passes", which are the same passes you see all the time in the Euroleague, from numerous guards.

Rubio's passing in Euroleague is nothing special at all, because the Euroleague has way better point guards on average than the NBA does.

That's why Brandon Jennings and Ty Lawson were total scrubs in Euroleague but are considered "good" in the NBA. That's why Rubio sucked in Euroleague, but is considered to be a "future star" in the NBA.

Rubio is now playing against mush worse opposing point guards, now that he is in the no defense NBA.

Fiba basketball
12-19-2011, 04:27 AM
more shit pulled out of your ass which you try to pass as facts? who are the top 5 passers in euroleague?

what is their pass efficiency, completion percentage, td-interception ratio etc
Players that pass better than Rubio : Teodosic , Huertas , Papaloukas , Diamantidis , Cook , Tunceri , Rodrigez etc.

Euroleague
12-19-2011, 06:51 PM
Players that pass better than Rubio : Teodosic , Huertas , Papaloukas , Diamantidis , Cook , Tunceri , Rodrigez etc.

I would put Diamantidis and Prigioni about the same as Rubio in passing. I would rate Rubio better than Tunceri, Rodriguez, and Cook in passing. Bit better than Zisis in passing.

I would also add Spanoulis and Jasikevicius in the list of better passers than Rubio, along with Huertas, Papaloukas, and Teodosic.

IGOTGAME
12-19-2011, 06:53 PM
I would put Diamantidis about the same in Rubio in passing. I would rate Rubio better than Tunceri, Rodriguez, and Cook in passing.

I would rate Spanoulis and Jasikevicius in the list of better passers than Rubio.

I have watched enough of Jasikevicius both in Euroleague and in the NBA to say that Rubio sees passes that he can't. Ricky has a talent that is hard to find. You don't find many players anywhere with that type of vision, touch and feel.

Euroleague
12-19-2011, 06:57 PM
I have watched enough of Jasikevicius both in Euroleague and in the NBA to say that Rubio sees passes that he can't. Ricky has a talent that is hard to find. You don't find many players anywhere with that type of vision, touch and feel.

I would say that Rubio has better court vision than Jasikevicius, however they are equal in terms of being able to make passes, and in terms of passing from the pick and roll, Jasikevicius is literally like 10 times better than Rubio could ever dream of being.

Rubio is better at passing on the break, court vision on the break is about the same. However, in a half court set offense, Jasikevicius is way better at passing than Rubio is.

Just for the sole HUGE advantage Jasikevicius had in pick and roll passing alone, I have to rate him as a better passer than Rubio.

I will just assume that you did not see Jasikevicius playing in his prime.

Fiba basketball
12-19-2011, 07:32 PM
I would put Diamantidis and Prigioni about the same as Rubio in passing. I would rate Rubio better than Tunceri, Rodriguez, and Cook in passing. Bit better than Zisis in passing.

I would also add Spanoulis and Jasikevicius in the list of better passers than Rubio, along with Huertas, Papaloukas, and Teodosic.
I do not think Spanoulis is good passer as Teodosic , Huertas , Papaloukas , Jasikevicus . He is better scorer than them but when it comes to passing he is more like Diamantidis , Prigioni etc.

Euroleague
12-20-2011, 10:08 PM
I do not think Spanoulis is good passer as Teodosic , Huertas , Papaloukas , Jasikevicus . He is better scorer than them but when it comes to passing he is more like Diamantidis , Prigioni etc.

Spanoulis is one of the best passers. He just passes it less. But he can certainly make every single pass Rubio can.

Fiba basketball
12-21-2011, 04:18 AM
Spanoulis is one of the best passers. He just passes it less. But he can certainly make every single pass Rubio can.
He is one of the best and he can pass like Rubio , but do you really think that he is the same or better passer than Teodosic , Huertas , Papaloukas and Jasikevicus ? I think that Spanuolis is oround top 10 passers in El but these guys are the top passers in El .

MooseJuiceBowen
12-21-2011, 04:21 AM
I feel like fiba basketball and euroleague are the same person look at how they talk to each other :roll:

he cant find anyone else to talk to :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Fiba basketball
12-21-2011, 04:37 AM
I feel like fiba basketball and euroleague are the same person look at how they talk to each other :roll:

he cant find anyone else to talk to :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
We arent the same person . I just also love to watch Euroleague .

stallionaire
12-21-2011, 05:07 AM
Rubio will take the Timberwolves to the Finals!

Knicks101
12-21-2011, 10:16 AM
We arent the same person . I just also love to watch Euroleague .

Yeah, you opened an account right when the NBA season is about to start to talk Euroleague. I believe you.

mattvNJ
12-21-2011, 12:30 PM
Euroleague has like 15 accounts and he just argues with himself to make it look like aside from him there is a decent amount of Euro fans when there isn't on this NBA board

Rnbizzle
12-21-2011, 12:35 PM
I honestly don't understand why those kids don't get banned, they add nothing to this board besides a chuckle here and there because people constantly troll them. If I would be posting about Dutch soccer, or something else nobody cares about here, I'm sure I'd get a warning or a ban. Why don't they?

Fiba basketball
12-21-2011, 01:25 PM
Yeah, you opened an account right when the NBA season is about to start to talk Euroleague. I believe you.
Who said I do not like Nba . I like Euroleague more but I watch Nba ( playoffs , I do not watch regular part of season much ). Why cant I talk about european players in Nba ? I know that my recent posts were not about this topic but I just anwsered the question about European players that are better passers than Rubio . I tried to open an account two months ago but I do not know why it wasn t sucesfull . And when I wrote I love to watch Euroleague I meant that that is the reason I can talk to him and not get in a fight about what league is better . You can think what you like I cant stop you but I m telling you we arent the same person .

I.R.Beast
12-21-2011, 01:26 PM
steve nash with a little bit of magic johnson mixed in. i love his court vision. id like to see him play defense like he did overseas tho
LMAO..... how so?...nash is a deadly shooter rubio is not.

ILLsmak
12-21-2011, 01:30 PM
Spanoulis is one of the best passers. He just passes it less. But he can certainly make every single pass Rubio can.


"He's the best passer... he just doesn't do it often." PASSING is a sign of weakness.

-Smak

Euroleague
12-21-2011, 06:41 PM
He is one of the best and he can pass like Rubio , but do you really think that he is the same or better passer than Teodosic , Huertas , Papaloukas and Jasikevicus ? I think that Spanuolis is oround top 10 passers in El but these guys are the top passers in El .


Spanoulis isn't as good as Papaloukas in passing, and I would say probably Huertas is also better. But he's as good as the other ones. And it's close between him and Huertas, but I will give Huertas the edge due to the fact that he just passes it a lot more and turns it over less.

In pick and roll, Jasikevicius is better than anyone at passing though.

Fiba basketball
12-22-2011, 04:53 AM
Spanoulis isn't as good as Papaloukas in passing, and I would say probably Huertas is also better. But he's as good as the other ones. And it's close between him and Huertas, but I will give Huertas the edge due to the fact that he just passes it a lot more and turns it over less.

In pick and roll, Jasikevicius is better than anyone at passing though.
You are overrating Spanoulis now . He is not THAT good in passing . You say that Spanoulis is good passers as persons who have most apg this season and still have less TO than Spanoulis .

Euroleague
12-22-2011, 05:03 AM
You are overrating Spanoulis now . He is not THAT good in passing . You say that Spanoulis is good passers as persons who have most apg this season and still have less TO than Spanoulis .

Spanoulis has led Greek League in assists 2 or 3 times - same league that had players like Teodosic, Jasikevicius, Diamantidis, Papaloukas, Calathes all playing in it during the time while he did that.

Spanoulis played on the same team with Diamantidis, Calathes, Jasikevicius and he led the team in assists in both Euroleague and Greek League.

Spanoulis played on the same team with Papaloukas and Teodosic and he led the team in assists in both Greek League and Euroleague.

He's also been in the top 5 in assists in the Euroleague several times.

So no, I'm not "overrating" his passing ability at all.

Fiba basketball
12-22-2011, 12:42 PM
Spanoulis has led Greek League in assists 2 or 3 times - same league that had players like Teodosic, Jasikevicius, Diamantidis, Papaloukas, Calathes all playing in it during the time while he did that.

Spanoulis played on the same team with Diamantidis, Calathes, Jasikevicius and he led the team in assists in both Euroleague and Greek League.

Spanoulis played on the same team with Papaloukas and Teodosic and he led the team in assists in both Greek League and Euroleague.

He's also been in the top 5 in assists in the Euroleague several times.

So no, I'm not "overrating" his passing ability at all.
I just looked on Internet and he never led Euroleague in assists , but yes he was among the best . I do not know about Greek league but I know he is not first in apg in this season . Last season Teodosic had a back problem and played bad most part of it , Papaloukas is old and isnt good as he was so it is not hard for player like Spanoulis to lead his team in assists . But Spanoulis avrages 3 TO per game in his carrer in Euroleague . And only Nba fans ( I m sorry but this is true ) look at stats to see how good player is . Players like Teodosic , Huertas , Papaloukas run the game with their passes and make players oround them better but dont have great statistic ( they are best in apg but a lot better than statistic says ). Spanoulis doesnt have that impact in game . He scores and passes but he doesnt run the game as great passer , he runs it like a scorer ( first looks to score , than to pass ) so he will be among the best but he will never be one of the best passers . So yes I think you are overrating his passing abilitis .

Euroleague
12-22-2011, 03:03 PM
I just looked on Internet and he never led Euroleague in assists , but yes he was among the best . I do not know about Greek league but I know he is not first in apg in this season . Last season Teodosic had a back problem and played bad most part of it , Papaloukas is old and isnt good as he was so it is not hard for player like Spanoulis to lead his team in assists . But Spanoulis avrages 3 TO per game in his carrer in Euroleague . And only Nba fans ( I m sorry but this is true ) look at stats to see how good player is . Players like Teodosic , Huertas , Papaloukas run the game with their passes and make players oround them better but dont have great statistic ( they are best in apg but a lot better than statistic says ). Spanoulis doesnt have that impact in game . He scores and passes but he doesnt run the game as great passer , he runs it like a scorer ( first looks to score , than to pass ) so he will be among the best but he will never be one of the best passers . So yes I think you are overrating his passing abilitis .

You have not watched Spanoulis play very much. He was locked into a strict pass first point guard role in Panathinaikos in 2008-09 season and he led them to the Triple Crown in that role.

He is a much better passer and play maker than you think he is.

MooseJuiceBowen
12-22-2011, 03:51 PM
You have not watched Spanoulis play very much. He was locked into a strict pass first point guard role in Panathinaikos in 2008-09 season and he led them to the Triple Crown in that role.

He is a much better passer and play maker than you think he is.

you having fun argueing with your own account?? :roll: :roll: :roll:

Fiba basketball
12-22-2011, 06:01 PM
You have not watched Spanoulis play very much. He was locked into a strict pass first point guard role in Panathinaikos in 2008-09 season and he led them to the Triple Crown in that role.

He is a much better passer and play maker than you think he is.
True . I watched him last season and never before . I watched oround 10 games and when I watched him he didnt run the game like Teodosic ( he didn t play that good those games but I m talking about his games in Serbian NT ) . He could be better than I think but he needs to run the game a lot better when I watch to make me have a same opinion as you about him .

Euroleague
12-22-2011, 06:37 PM
True . I watched him last season and never before . I watched oround 10 games and when I watched him he didnt run the game like Teodosic ( he didn t play that good those games but I m talking about his games in Serbian NT ) . He could be better than I think but he needs to run the game a lot better when I watch to make me have a same opinion as you about him .

Do you not realize that he's the only good scorer on the entire Olympiacos roster? He has to look to score on that current team he is on.

Fiba basketball
12-22-2011, 07:01 PM
Do you not realize that he's the only good scorer on the entire Olympiacos roster? He has to look to score on that current team he is on.
When he plays for NT Keselj cant miss a 3 pt shoot so I dont understand why he shots bad in Olympiacos , so he can be good scorer . I know that Spanoulis needs to score and not pass and I dont blame him , team depends on his scoring .

Smoke117
12-22-2011, 07:12 PM
Um...you guys do realize you can't be called similar to Nash if YOU CAN'T SHOOT RIGHT? Steve Nash is one of the greatest shooters of all time...it's one of the things you THINK OF WHEN YOU THINK OF STEVE NASH, so if this kid Rubio can't even shoot than you shouldn't be saying Rubio is similar to Steve Nash...