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Grinder
11-22-2011, 03:50 PM
Unbelievable performance...watched the whole game. Some of the shots D-Will hit were of an insane degree of difficulty. It was against the German team Gottingen in the EuroChallenge. They were throwing hard doubles at him the entire second half and he still managed to get free. He had some huge shots in the clutch to get Besiktas the win.

17/23 from the field and 7/10 from 3. Highlights should be up soon, you've gotta check out some of the contested 3s he hit.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmGeei32HG0

Credit to gutshot for the upload.

Nick Young
11-22-2011, 03:52 PM
lol finally he is in shape, this is just the first of many. Deron about to make all of Europe his bitch

Clutch
11-22-2011, 03:53 PM
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 03:53 PM
LMAO at how pathetic Grinder is.

Guarantees Williams will average "40/20 in Euroleague" and then brags when he has one 50 point game in EuroChallenge.

You are truly pathetic Grinder.

pegasus
11-22-2011, 03:53 PM
Somewhere in Arkansas a cat has been strangled to death.

Nick Young
11-22-2011, 03:55 PM
LMAO at how pathetic Grinder is.

Guarantees Williams will average "40/20 in Euroleague" and then brags when he has one 50 point game in EuroChallenge.

You are truly pathetic Grinder.
Why hasn't JCN had any 50 point games yet? Spanoulis? Have they even cracked 35 this year?:roll: :roll: :roll:

Miserio
11-22-2011, 03:55 PM
Somewhere in Arkansas a cat has been strangled to death.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:



:applause:

StroShow4
11-22-2011, 03:55 PM
Damn... can't wait for those highlights!

SAKOTXA
11-22-2011, 03:55 PM
LMAO at how pathetic Grinder is.

Guarantees Williams will average "40/20 in Euroleague" and then brags when he has one 50 point game in EuroChallenge.

You are truly pathetic Grinder.
Lol at you taking that seriously, and nice edit you ******.

"Rose would get cut by a Euroleague team"

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 03:57 PM
You guys are such insane trolls.

I have been saying over and over here that 18 points a game in EuroChallenge level was pathetic and nothing. You ALL argued and said such play was "GOAT in history of Europe".

Now you IDIOTS are exposed, proven WRONG, and I am PROVEN RIGHT.

Like I said over and over 18 points a game in EuroChallenge is terrible.

This is the freaking EuroChallenge. He should be getting 35 a game average.

Do you fools have any grasp of how terrible this league is?

It's one of the worst leagues in all of Europe.

This game only PROVES what I have been saying all along. He has been paying like total SHIT all season so far, based on the level of the competition.

And if ANYONE here argues that they are a PROVEN TROLL.

This PROVES the level is as low as I said it was all along.

And you fools are too stupid to even grasp that this VERIFIES all the claims I been making so far.

VINDICATION

SunsCaptain
11-22-2011, 03:57 PM
Remember when Euroleague said, "Deron Williams wont score more than 7 points in a game over the course of his career overseas".

Well he scored 50.

You look foolish Euroleague.

Fiasco
11-22-2011, 03:58 PM
Can't wait until he gets traded to the Clippers. :D

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 03:59 PM
Why hasn't JCN had any 50 point games yet? Spanoulis? Have they even cracked 35 this year?:roll: :roll: :roll:

Maybe because they don't play in like the 12th best league in Europe.

Rooster
11-22-2011, 03:59 PM
So DWill put up a fifty:oldlol:

On a tough defensive minded Euros
:wtf:

:banana: :banana: :banana:

Miller for 3
11-22-2011, 04:00 PM
50 with handchecking, no defensive 3 seconds, getting triple teamed, only 40 minutes and a smaller court?!?!?!!?? GOAT performance :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Kblaze8855
11-22-2011, 04:01 PM
17-23 for 50 is pretty nice. Anyone on the other team I should care about?

Rnbizzle
11-22-2011, 04:04 PM
Will rep whoever posts highlight video.

coin24
11-22-2011, 04:04 PM
Can't wait to see the highlights!!


Why do you take it so seriously euroleague? You're making it easy for these guys to troll you constantly:facepalm All this, I'm right nah nah 12yo bullshit has to stop..

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 04:05 PM
Bragging about a 50 point game in EuroChallenge by Deron Williams...

Calling this the greatest game ever in Europe, saying this officially proves he is the greatest player in Europe's history...

You have reached an all time low for trolling.

Grinder continues to TROLL the hell out of this forum.

This is maybe, something like the 12th best basketball league in Europe.

Fatal9
11-22-2011, 04:05 PM
LMAO at how pathetic Grinder is.

Guarantees Williams will average "40/20 in Euroleague" and then brags when he has one 50 point game in EuroChallenge.

You are truly pathetic Grinder.
LOL, so mad :roll:

Rooster
11-22-2011, 04:05 PM
Move over White Mamba

Ammo can't top this

DWill is taking over

Despite being out of shape

He was shooting like the basket is an ocean

25 foot layups

GOAT
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

He got a new Turkish name

Last name: Ever

First Name: Greatest
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

PowerGlove
11-22-2011, 04:06 PM
wait....wait.....wait....


Deron dropped 50??:eek: :eek: :eek:


:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: to the greatest player in eurochallenge history

Sarcastic
11-22-2011, 04:06 PM
OMG Deron scored 50 in EUROTRASH?

GOAT performance!!!!

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Nick Young
11-22-2011, 04:06 PM
You guys are such insane trolls.

I have been saying over and over here that 18 points a game in EuroChallenge level was pathetic and nothing. You ALL argued and said such play was "GOAT in history of Europe".

Now you IDIOTS are exposed, proven WRONG, and I am PROVEN RIGHT.

Like I said over and over 18 points a game in EuroChallenge is terrible.

This is the freaking EuroChallenge. He should be getting 35 a game average.

Do you fools have any grasp of how terrible this league is?

It's one of the worst leagues in all of Europe.

This game only PROVES what I have been saying all along. He has been paying like total SHIT all season so far, based on the level of the competition.

And if ANYONE here argues that they are a PROVEN TROLL.

This PROVES the level is as low as I said it was all along.

And you fools are too stupid to even grasp that this VERIFIES all the claims I been making so far.

VINDICATION
Isn't Deron leading his shit horrible Besiktas teammates to first place in Turkish league as well?

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 04:06 PM
17-23 for 50 is pretty nice. Anyone on the other team I should care about?

No. This is by far one of the worst leagues in Europe.

Kblaze8855
11-22-2011, 04:07 PM
Frankly im shocked he managed to show the restraint needed to only score 50.

coin24
11-22-2011, 04:07 PM
If he deserves to be banned then so do you. Posting a thread everytime an nba player has a bad game..:facepalm

Why does it burn you so bad when people shit on the euroleague? You're not even from Europe!!!:roll:

BlackJoker23
11-22-2011, 04:08 PM
deron stylin all on them clown ass euros:bowdown:

SunsCaptain
11-22-2011, 04:08 PM
Remember when euroleague said 17-23 for 50 was bad?

:roll:

Nick Young
11-22-2011, 04:08 PM
http://www.usabasketball.com/photos/08_moly_williams_bio_300.jpg

coin24
11-22-2011, 04:08 PM
Also Parker 2xMVP!!!!

Deron should score 100 next:lol

KGMN
11-22-2011, 04:09 PM
This is the freaking EuroChallenge. He should be getting 35 a game average.


Does anyone average that much in EuroChallenge?

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 04:09 PM
Can't wait to see the highlights!!


Why do you take it so seriously euroleague? You're making it easy for these guys to troll you constantly:facepalm All this, I'm right nah nah 12yo bullshit has to stop..


Because it proves I was right all along. I have said over and over his performance so far was terrible for the level of competition. For this I am a "troll".

While trolls like Grinder make false claims about how he was "dominating".

This game is 100% PROOF I was telling the truth and Grinder was a liar.

This verifies my claims about how he is playing in one of the worst leagues on the European continent.

It's quite amusing that Grinder is too stupid to even grasp that it confirms my comments and proves him to be a troll.

Thorn
11-22-2011, 04:10 PM
Deron could've gone for 60 easily but he was humble enough to only stop at 50 and save them some face. GOAT European player:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Fiasco
11-22-2011, 04:10 PM
Maybe because they don't play in like the 12th best league in Europe.

Do you post all of this from an internet cafe in Arkansas?

Rooster
11-22-2011, 04:11 PM
NBA is taking over:roll: :roll:

Farmar is leading his team in points, assist, rebounds:oldlol:

Kirilenko is the best player in Europe:bowdown:

Batum look like superman in Europe:bowdown:

Pekovic and Acie Law is batman and Robin in Partizan:bowdown:

VSpan is turnover machine in Greece:applause:

Sasha put up his career high 26 points at Efes LMAO

And DWill put up an halfheartedly 50 points on the Nazis

GOAT:bowdown: :bowdown:

Nick Young
11-22-2011, 04:11 PM
Because it proves I was right all along. I have said over and over his performance so far was terrible for the level of competition. For this I am a "troll".

While trolls like Grinder make false claims about how he was "dominating".

This game is 100% PROOF I was telling the truth and Grinder was a liar.

This verifies my claims about how he is playing in one of the worst leagues on the European continent.

It's quite amusing that Grinder is too stupid to even grasp that it confirms my comments and proves him to be a troll.
http://www.usabasketball.com/photos/08_moly_williams_bio_300.jpg
DERON: Tell mee how my ass tastes Europe

Rnbizzle
11-22-2011, 04:11 PM
17-23 for 50 is pretty nice. Anyone on the other team I should care about?
http://www.eurobasket.com/team.asp?Cntry=Germany&Team=214&Page=1

Link to their roster ^ bunch of nobodies in my eyes.
They are deadlast in the best league in Germany (1-8)

Rooster
11-22-2011, 04:14 PM
http://www.usabasketball.com/photos/08_moly_williams_bio_300.jpg
DERON: Tell mee how my ass tastes Europe
:bowdown: :bowdown:

Last name Ever

First name Greatest
:cheers: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Rnbizzle
11-22-2011, 04:15 PM
Bragging about a 50 point game in EuroChallenge by Deron Williams...

Calling this the greatest game ever in Europe, saying this officially proves he is the greatest player in Europe's history...

You have reached an all time low for trolling.

Grinder continues to TROLL the hell out of this forum.

This is maybe, something like the 12th best basketball league in Europe.
Unlike you, I'm not for Arkansas, I'm actually from Europe. The first league in Germany is NOT the 12th best league in Europe. You're the liar/troll here bro.

Kblaze8855
11-22-2011, 04:16 PM
Ray Sykes? Wow. I forgot he existed.

PowerGlove
11-22-2011, 04:16 PM
:bowdown: :bowdown:

Last name Ever

First name Greatest
:cheers: :bowdown: :bowdown:
:roll:

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 04:17 PM
Does anyone average that much in EuroChallenge?

For Williams, that would be an average season, based on the competition level.

This totally proves all my claims here about the level he is playing at.

Do you have any grasp how low this level is by European standards?

Seriously, do you realize how bad this league is? Look at the teams and the leagues that compete. The difference between NBA to D-League is not as much as between Euroleague to EuroChallenge.

Here let me prove it to you, check out this --->

http://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_KNce8jInH7Qj1EsyH5rjn2.pageID_fVqjG9OoGiMGXOe8 BGVOk0.compID_BYg5Rb55Jw-G5I3MZ6JB01.season_2011.html

Ben Woodside led the league in points and assists with a 19/6 average.

Ben Woodside....................let that sink in for a second, Ben Woodside led the league in points and assists, averaging 19/6.

Now, TROLLS like Grinder were claiming that Deron Williams, arguably the best point guard in the NBA, was "dominating" with an 18/7 average in the same league, and is trying to claim that this league is a legit European league.

BEN WOODSIDE - 19/6, leading the league in points and assists.

Are you going tell me that Deron Williams should not be getting 35 a game?

This is the MINOR LEAGUES of Europe.

Heavincent
11-22-2011, 04:18 PM
It's funny how you act like there's something wrong with being an NBA only fan. It's not my fault I don't want to waste my time watching extremely shitty International basketball. I'd honestly much rather watch high school JV basketball here in the states.

SunsCaptain
11-22-2011, 04:19 PM
Deron Willams!!!

:cheers:

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 04:19 PM
Isn't Deron leading his shit horrible Besiktas teammates to first place in Turkish league as well?


No. They are in a three-way tie for 2nd place so far actually.

Besides that, TBL is also a POS league by European standards. Although it is without question better than EuroChallenge.

Rake2204
11-22-2011, 04:19 PM
Deron Williams says:

http://www.slamonline.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/deron_williams_top_50.jpg

Rooster
11-22-2011, 04:20 PM
Ray Sykes? Wow. I forgot he existed.

I forgot about Paris Horne too.

He can hop like James White.

Scrubs sightings
:cheers: :roll: :roll:

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 04:21 PM
http://www.eurobasket.com/team.asp?Cntry=Germany&Team=214&Page=1

Link to their roster ^ bunch of nobodies in my eyes.
They are deadlast in the best league in Germany (1-8)

According to Grinder, they can probably win a Euroleague championship.

PowerGlove
11-22-2011, 04:21 PM
omfg, Darius Washington Jr. is playing overseas and averaging 23 points a game!

I always liked his game, even though he couldnt hit those free throws for memphis.

Fatal9
11-22-2011, 04:21 PM
No one had previously even scored 40 points in EuroChallenge before this.

Doctor Rivers
11-22-2011, 04:22 PM
Bragging about a 50 point game in EuroChallenge by Deron Williams...

Calling this the greatest game ever in Europe, saying this officially proves he is the greatest player in Europe's history...

You have reached an all time low for trolling.

Grinder continues to TROLL the hell out of this forum.

This is maybe, something like the 12th best basketball league in Europe.

negged like a troll

triangleoffense
11-22-2011, 04:23 PM
Euroleague, coming from a fellow previous resident of Arkansas (Little Rock) and as a Razorback fan, chill it with the euroleague posts... nothing worse than a 1 dimensional fan.

Rooster
11-22-2011, 04:23 PM
For Williams, that would be an average season, based on the competition level.

This totally proves all my claims here about the level he is playing at.

Do you have any grasp how low this level is by European standards?

Seriously, do you realize how bad this league is? Look at the teams and the leagues that compete. The difference between NBA to D-League is not as much as between Euroleague to EuroChallenge.

Here let me prove it to you, check out this --->

http://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_KNce8jInH7Qj1EsyH5rjn2.pageID_fVqjG9OoGiMGXOe8 BGVOk0.compID_BYg5Rb55Jw-
G5I3MZ6JB01.season_2011.html

Ben Woodside led the league in points and assists with a 19/6 average.


Ben Woodside....................let that sink in for a second, Ben Woodside led the league in points and assist, averaging 19/6.

Now, TROLLS like Grinder were claiming that Deron Williams, probably the best point guard in the NBA, was "dominating" with an 18/7 average in the same league, and is trying to claim that this league is a legit European league.

BEN WOODSIDE - 19/6 leading the league in points and assists.

Are you going tell me that Deron Williams should not getting 35 a game?

This is the MINOR LEAGUES of Europe.


Who gives a crap about Ben Woodside:no:

We are just giving DWill his props

GOAT:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Heavincent
11-22-2011, 04:24 PM
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 04:25 PM
Ray Sykes? Wow. I forgot he existed.

It's the minor leagues of Europe. How many times does this have to be explained?

This is why it it is such a joke to all the European basketball fans that Williams signed with a team like Besiktas. It's just laughable to any European basketball fans that he would choose to play at such an awful level of competition.

Even though trolls like Grinder have been trying to claim this is a legit level league.

Hopefully now you understand what I and other European fans here have been saying. Williams plays in a joke league that cannot be taken seriously. Hopefully, you can grasp that now. If not, you are just an idiot.

SunsCaptain
11-22-2011, 04:26 PM
Someone shoud put EuroLeague on suicide watch....

:violin:

Dave3
11-22-2011, 04:27 PM
Someone shoud put EuroLeague on suicide watch....

:violin:
He doesn't actually care because he believes none of what he says. He's doing it 100% for attention, and it's working.

Rooster
11-22-2011, 04:28 PM
omfg, Darius Washington Jr. is playing overseas and averaging 23 points a game!

I always liked his game, even though he couldnt hit those free throws for memphis.

LMAO:oldlol:

Maybe in Europe

He can finally put ice water in his veins.:rockon:

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 04:29 PM
No one had previously even scored 40 points in EuroChallenge before this.

What is your point? If it is true so what?

This is European MINOR LEAGUE BASKETBALL.

What can't you grasp about this?

Ben Woodside led the league in points and assists last year. Do you know who Ben Woodside is? Do you have any grasp of what that means?

Ben Woodside was the best player of the whole league last year. Why don't you go look up Ben Woodside, and then maybe it will sink in to you..........this is the EuroChallenge.

I'd put it somewhere around number 12 league in Europe.

Kobr
11-22-2011, 04:29 PM
http://i.imgur.com/KEOne.jpg

Rooster
11-22-2011, 04:31 PM
It's the minor leagues of Europe. How many times does this have to be explained?

This is why it it is such a joke to all the European basketball fans that Williams signed with a team like Besiktas. It's just laughable to any European basketball fans that he would choose to play at such an awful level of competition.

Even though trolls like Grinder have been trying to claim this is a legit level league.

Hopefully now you understand what I and other European fans here have been saying. Williams plays in a joke league that cannot be taken seriously. Hopefully, you can grasp that now. If not, you are just an idiot.
:facepalm

Every league in Europe is minor league

Bu DWill is the

GOAT
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Don't hate the player

Hate the game:rockon:
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Fatal9
11-22-2011, 04:32 PM
WTF is your point? If it is true so what?

This is European MINOR LEAGUE BASKETBALL.

What can't you grasp about this?

Ben Woodside led the leageu in points and assists last year. Do you know who Ben Woodside is? Do you have any grasp of what that means?

Ben Woodside was the best player of the whole league last year. Why don't you go look up Ben Woodside, and then maybe it will sink in to you..........this is the EuroChallenge.

I'd put it somewhere around number 12 league in Europe.

The record for points in a Euroleague game is 63 by some American guy who got cut by the Kings. Galis never scored even 50 :roll:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i54SDO9VCEA

KGMN
11-22-2011, 04:32 PM
WTF is your point? If it is true so what?

This is European MINOR LEAGUE BASKETBALL.

What can't you grasp about this?

Ben Woodside led the league in points and assists last year. Do you know who Ben Woodside is? Do you have any grasp of what that means?

Ben Woodside was the best player of the whole league last year. Why don't you go look up Ben Woodside, and then maybe it will sink in to you..........this is the EuroChallenge.

I'd put it somewhere around number 12 league in Europe.

Isn't Goettingen in Germany's 1st League?

Heavincent
11-22-2011, 04:33 PM
The record for points in a Euroleague game is 63 by some American guy who got cut by the Kings. Galis never scored even 50 :roll:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i54SDO9VCEA

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Repped.

Rooster
11-22-2011, 04:33 PM
WTF is your point? If it is true so what?

This is European MINOR LEAGUE BASKETBALL.

What can't you grasp about this?

Ben Woodside led the league in points and assists last year. Do you know who Ben Woodside is? Do you have any grasp of what that means?

Ben Woodside was the best player of the whole league last year. Why don't you go look up Ben Woodside, and then maybe it will sink in to you..........this is the EuroChallenge.

I'd put it somewhere around number 12 league in Europe.


You are a liar:no:

Ben Woodside is not the GOAT

Somebody put a fifty:bowdown:

Last name Ever

First name Greatest

DWill GOAT:cheers:
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Heavincent
11-22-2011, 04:34 PM
http://i.imgur.com/KEOne.jpg

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

RRR3
11-22-2011, 04:38 PM
http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/ff5da9975d9191f283a35ea6f0ca0ef4.jpg

Rooster
11-22-2011, 04:39 PM
http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/ff5da9975d9191f283a35ea6f0ca0ef4.jpg
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Euroleague :roll: :roll: :roll:

CeltsGarlic
11-22-2011, 04:40 PM
Derron put on a SHOW. I know this is 3rd level basketball tournament in Europe, but 50 points is 50 points. You MUST appreciate that kind of performance.
7 -10 3pt :bowdown: :bowdown:

Heavincent
11-22-2011, 04:45 PM
Deron Williams >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V-Span

International basketball represents the children in the shower, and Deron Williams represents Sandusky.

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 04:45 PM
He doesn't actually care because he believes none of what he says. He's doing it 100% for attention, and it's working.

Everything I am saying is 100% true. It's not even an issue of belief. It's simple fact.

Any European fan here (except NBA only fan jon_konkac) will agree with me.

No one in Europe, NO ONE takes EuroChallenge seriously.

NO ONE.

I am honestly not impressed by how Williams has played at all in such a level. That's the honest truth of the matter.

He should have been wrecking the competition immediately, starting with Dexia-Mons.

EuroChallenge is such a POS league, that it brings in clubs from Cyprus, Czech Republic, Hungary, Belarus, Finland, Austria, Georgia, Latvia, Netherlands, Romania, Slovakia, Sweden............not even necessarily the best teams from such leagues.............Keep in mind you have leagues that are not even registered in ULEB as being considered professional.

Then you have teams from Ukraine, France, Germany (9-11 best leagues in Europe - lower for Ukraine) and they can take even a mediocre, or even awful team by the standards of those leagues.

The amount of teams in the whole league that would even be considered decent clubs, not necessarily good, but just decent, by Eurocup standards, not Euroleague, but the level below it Eurocup (which is like a mid-level European league in all honesty) is maybe something like 3-4 teams total, one of them being the team Williams plays on.

The level of what would be even decent level (not good) teams at Euroleague level is ZERO. Besiktas is probably the best team in the league, and they would just be a decent Euroleague team. Their level would be something like competing for Top 16 of Euroleague, without actually making it.

Then the next best team is probably Fuenlabrada.........they would be a solid Eurocup team, and an awful Euroleague team. Then the rest of the league is 2-3 solid Eurocup level teams (that could not compete in Euroleague), and then the remaining teams are terrible teams by European standards, with some of them coming from leagues that are not even really considered professional by European standards, but more like semi-pro.

These are European scrubs he is paying against, LITERALLY, not in the trolling sense of how NBA only fans claim, but literally. Williams is literally playing at a scrub level - by European standards.

This is why it is a joke to European fans that he chose to play at such a team.

Clutch
11-22-2011, 04:47 PM
Deron Williams set a new EuroChallenge record in points

Previous record was 39 by San Emeterio.

Nick Young
11-22-2011, 04:48 PM
For Williams, that would be an average season, based on the competition level.

This totally proves all my claims here about the level he is playing at.

Do you have any grasp how low this level is by European standards?

Seriously, do you realize how bad this league is? Look at the teams and the leagues that compete. The difference between NBA to D-League is not as much as between Euroleague to EuroChallenge.

Here let me prove it to you, check out this --->

http://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_KNce8jInH7Qj1EsyH5rjn2.pageID_fVqjG9OoGiMGXOe8 BGVOk0.compID_BYg5Rb55Jw-G5I3MZ6JB01.season_2011.html

Ben Woodside led the league in points and assists with a 19/6 average.

Ben Woodside....................let that sink in for a second, Ben Woodside led the league in points and assists, averaging 19/6.

Now, TROLLS like Grinder were claiming that Deron Williams, arguably the best point guard in the NBA, was "dominating" with an 18/7 average in the same league, and is trying to claim that this league is a legit European league.

BEN WOODSIDE - 19/6, leading the league in points and assists.

Are you going tell me that Deron Williams should not be getting 35 a game?

This is the MINOR LEAGUES of Europe.
Ben WOodside? Big deal, in Euroleague guys like Nate Huffman and Anthony Parker win MVPs and complete useless scrubs like Acie Law and Jordan Farmar play like CP3 and Sasha Vujacic is a deadly scorer.

Dave3
11-22-2011, 04:48 PM
Eberything I am saying is 100% true. It's not even an issue of belief. It's simple fact.

Any European fa here (except NBA only fan jon_konkac) will agree with me.

No one in Europe, NO ONE takes EuroChallenge seriously.

NO ONE.

I am honestly not impressed by how Williams has played at all in such a level. That's the honest truth of the matter.

He should have been wrecking the competition immediately, starting with Dexia-Mons.

EuroChallenge is such a POS league, that it brings in clubs from Cyprus, Czech Republic, Hungary, Belarus, Finland, Austria, Georgia, Latvia, Netherlands, Romania, Slovakia, Sweden............not even necessarily the best teams from such leagues.............Keep in mind you have leagues that are not even registered in ULEB as being considered professional.

Then you have teams from Ukraine, France, Germany (9-111 best leagues in Europe - lower for Ukraine) and they can take even a mediocre, or even awful team by the standards of those leagues.

The amount of teams in the whole league that would even be considered decent clubs, not necessarily good, but just decent by Eurocup standards, not Euroleague, but the level below it Eurocup (which is like a mid-level European league in all honesty) is maybe something like 3-4 teams total, one of them being the team Williams plays on.

The level of what would be even decent level (not good) teams at Euroleague level is ZERO. Besiktas is probably the best team in the league, and they would just be a decent Euroleague team. Their level would be something like competing for Top 16 of Euroleague, without actually making it.

Then the next best team is probably Fuenlabrada.........they would be a solid Eurocup team, and an awful Euroleague team. Then the rest of the league is 2-3 solid Eurocup level teams (that could not compete in Euroleague), and then the remaining teams are terrible teams by European standards, with some of them come from leagues that are not even really considered professional by European standards, but more like semi-pro.

These are European scrubs he is paying against, LITERALLY, not in the trolling sense of how NBA only fans claim, but literally. Williams is literally playing at a scrub level - by European standards.

This is why it is a joke to European fans that he chose to play at such a team.
Sure. PS. I know you couldn't possibly expect me to read any of that...I mean, I know you're faking caring, so why would I waste my time? Keep trolling these posters though, they seem to actually reply and give you attention. Enjoy it.

Nick Young
11-22-2011, 04:48 PM
No one had previously even scored 40 points in EuroChallenge before this.
Not even Scalabrine?:wtf:

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 04:49 PM
The record for points in a Euroleague game is 63 by some American guy who got cut by the Kings. Galis never scored even 50 :roll:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i54SDO9VCEA

You are an idiot. You are an IDIOT.

Euroleague existed before 1991 genius.

That is the most points scored since 1991. Euroleague existed since 1958.

And Galis had numerous 50 point games in Euroleague dumb ass.

You continue to use Wikipedia for all facts related to Euroleague, which is truly pathetic.

You continue to either lie, or post false info and to pass it off as fact.

Rooster
11-22-2011, 04:50 PM
Eberything I am saying is 100% true. It's not even an issue of belief. It's simple fact.

Any European fa here (except NBA only fan jon_konkac) will agree with me.

No one in Europe, NO ONE takes EuroChallenge seriously.

NO ONE.

I am honestly not impressed by how Williams has played at all in such a level. That's the honest truth of the matter.

He should have been wrecking the competition immediately, starting with Dexia-Mons.

EuroChallenge is such a POS league, that it brings in clubs from Cyprus, Czech Republic, Hungary, Belarus, Finland, Austria, Georgia, Latvia, Netherlands, Romania, Slovakia, Sweden............not even necessarily the best teams from such leagues.............Keep in mind you have leagues that are not even registered in ULEB as being considered professional.

Then you have teams from Ukraine, France, Germany (9-111 best leagues in Europe - lower for Ukraine) and they can take even a mediocre, or even awful
team by the standards of those leagues.

The amount of teams in the whole league that would even be considered decent clubs, not necessarily good, but just decent by Eurocup standards, not Euroleague, but the level below it Eurocup (which is like a mid-level European
league in all honesty) is maybe something like 3-4 teams total, one of them being the team Williams plays on.

The level of what would be even decent level (not good) teams at Euroleague level is ZERO. Besiktas is probably the best team in the league, and they
would just be a decent Euroleague team. Their level would be something like competing for Top 16 of Euroleague, without actually making it.

Then the next best team is probably Fuenlabrada.........they would be a solid Eurocup team, and an awful Euroleague team. Then the rest of the league is 2-3 solid Eurocup level teams (that could not compete in Euroleague), and
then the remaining teams are terrible teams by European standards, with some of them come from leagues that are not even really considered professional by European standards, but more like semi-pro.

These are European scrubs he is paying against, LITERALLY, not in the trolling sense of how NBA only fans claim, but literally. Williams is literally playing at a
scrub level - by European standards.

This is why it is a joke to European fans that he chose to play at such a team.

All that words and it can't change the FACT.:banghead:

DWill with 50:bowdown:

GOAT
:roll: :roll: :banana:

shole
11-22-2011, 04:50 PM
For Williams, that would be an average season, based on the competition level.

This totally proves all my claims here about the level he is playing at.

Do you have any grasp how low this level is by European standards?

Seriously, do you realize how bad this league is? Look at the teams and the leagues that compete. The difference between NBA to D-League is not as much as between Euroleague to EuroChallenge.

Here let me prove it to you, check out this --->

http://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_KNce8jInH7Qj1EsyH5rjn2.pageID_fVqjG9OoGiMGXOe8 BGVOk0.compID_BYg5Rb55Jw-G5I3MZ6JB01.season_2011.html

Ben Woodside led the league in points and assists with a 19/6 average.

Ben Woodside....................let that sink in for a second, Ben Woodside led the league in points and assists, averaging 19/6.

Now, TROLLS like Grinder were claiming that Deron Williams, arguably the best point guard in the NBA, was "dominating" with an 18/7 average in the same league, and is trying to claim that this league is a legit European league.

BEN WOODSIDE - 19/6, leading the league in points and assists.

Are you going tell me that Deron Williams should not be getting 35 a game?

This is the MINOR LEAGUES of Europe.

http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20080508/300.willson.office.050808.jpg

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 04:51 PM
Isn't Goettingen in Germany's 1st League?

The worst team in the German League. They will be relegated into the minor league of Germany next year.

And yes, MINOR leagues and teams compete. Teams from leagues that are semi-pro by European standards compete in EuroChallenge.

Let me guess, you were not aware of this? Why I am not surprised.

Nick Young
11-22-2011, 04:51 PM
http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/ff5da9975d9191f283a35ea6f0ca0ef4.jpg

Rooster
11-22-2011, 04:51 PM
Not even Scalabrine?:wtf:

He's shot blocking in this level.:rockon:

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 04:52 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Repped.

What he posted is false. Not one thing he said is true.

Rooster
11-22-2011, 04:53 PM
The worst team in the German League. They will be relegated into the minor league of Germany next year.

And yes, MINOR leagues and teams compete. Teams from leagues that are semi-pro by European standards compete in EuroChallenge.

Let me guess, you were not aware of this? Why I am not surprised.

Every hoop scene in Europe:facepalm

Is a minor league:rockon:
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 04:53 PM
http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/ff5da9975d9191f283a35ea6f0ca0ef4.jpg

So then some moron does not know that I don't play in Euroleague.

Nick Young
11-22-2011, 04:53 PM
The worst team in the German League. They will be relegated into the minor league of Germany next year.

And yes, MINOR leagues and teams compete. Teams from leagues that are semi-pro by European standards compete in EuroChallenge.

Let me guess, you were not aware of this? Why I am not surprised.
Galis played in a WEAK ERA compared to Williams. Deron's 50 point game>Galis' highest scoring euroleague game

Heavincent
11-22-2011, 04:54 PM
What he posted is false. Not one thing he said is true.

Nope. You're wrong.

Deron Williams just dropped 50. Now there's a fact for you.

Like I said:

International basketball = children in the shower
Deron Williams = Sandusky

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 04:55 PM
Derron put on a SHOW. I know this is 3rd level basketball tournament in Europe, but 50 points is 50 points. You MUST appreciate that kind of performance.
7 -10 3pt :bowdown: :bowdown:

Not in the least. Ben Woodside was the clear best player in that league just last season.

Williams should have had 2-3 games just like this already. This is extremely low level by European standards.

King1991nba
11-22-2011, 04:55 PM
Deron THE MADA****ING GOAT Williams... :cheers: :banana: :bowdown:

gutshot
11-22-2011, 04:55 PM
I watched this game live in Istanbul.. The thing is he did not even play so hard! He casually dropped 50 but could easily have scored 60+ had he played with more aggression and with better teammates!

Also.. Keep in mind that, 50 pts translate to 68-70 pts of NBA.. So, it was such a biggggggggg performance.. All Besiktas spectators stood up in the end and chanted "Deron Williams" passionately.. Amazing moment this was! Thanks Deron!

Fatal9
11-22-2011, 04:56 PM
Galis played in a WEAK ERA compared to Williams. Deron's 50 point game>Galis' highest scoring euroleague game
Look at who that American midget played against: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9dBn72HRn8

I see better defense in division 3 of NCAA.

Deron's 50 point game >>>

gutshot
11-22-2011, 04:58 PM
From a earlier game this month

http://p.twimg.com/AenvMFcCEAANoes.jpg

Umm uniform? They meant jersey here. For guys a jersey is kind of holy and they regard players as warriors.. maybe this is why.. that's a long shot tho.. lol never mind, just poor English ^^

Nick Young
11-22-2011, 04:59 PM
I watched this game live in Istanbul.. The thing is he did not even play so hard! He casually dropped 50 but could easily have scored 60+ had he played with more aggression and with better teammates!

Also.. Keep in mind that, 50 pts translate to 68-70 pts of NBA.. So, it was such a biggggggggg performance.. All Besiktas spectators stood up in the end and chanted "Deron Williams" passionately.. Amazing moment this was! Thanks Deron!
Deron is the king of Istanbul:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

post a link when you get a chance!

Are they advertising Williams alot over there? Is his face on massive billboards and is he on TV advertisements?

Rooster
11-22-2011, 04:59 PM
Look at who that American midget played against: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9dBn72HRn8

I see better defense in division 3 of NCAA.

Deron's 50 point game >>>


The corpse of Bob McAdoo dominated that league:bowdown:

The corpse of Sabas did the same 15-20 years later:bowdown:

But DWill is the GOAT:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Nick Young
11-22-2011, 05:00 PM
From a earlier game this month

http://p.twimg.com/AenvMFcCEAANoes.jpg

Umm uniform? They meant jersey here. For guys a jersey is kind of holy and they regard players as warriors.. maybe this is why.. that's a long shot tho.. lol never mind, just poor English ^^
You are our legendary:bowdown:

Rooster
11-22-2011, 05:01 PM
I watched this game live in Istanbul.. The thing is he did not even play so hard! He casually dropped 50 but could easily have scored 60+ had he played with more aggression and with better teammates!

Also.. Keep in mind that, 50 pts translate to 68-70 pts of NBA.. So, it was such a biggggggggg performance.. All Besiktas spectators stood up in the end and chanted "Deron Williams" passionately.. Amazing moment this was! Thanks Deron!


So he was sweating like Eddie Jones and still dropped 50. I can't wait to see this YouTube.:bowdown:

DevilsAssassin
11-22-2011, 05:01 PM
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 05:04 PM
Ben WOodside? Big deal, in Euroleague guys like Nate Huffman and Anthony Parker win MVPs and complete useless scrubs like Acie Law and Jordan Farmar play like CP3 and Sasha Vujacic is a deadly scorer.

Huffman never won Euroleague MVP. You keep making up that lie.

Say it 500 times it is still a lie. He never won Euroleague MVP.

Vujacic is a deadly scorer in Euroleague? Really? Is that why he's considered to be one of the least efficient offensive players in the whole league? Is that why the fans of his team already want him off the team?

Really.........yeah a guy that shoots 31% from the field and 29% from 3 point range is a "deadly scorer"?

Vujacic's Euroleague stats ---> http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=BRB&clubcode=IST


You are right, he is a "deadly scorer", just like Huffman, who never won a Euroleague MVP, was also "Euroleague MVP".

And Ben Woodside, the best player in EuroChallenge last year.......here is what a world beater this guy is in Euroleague. The same guy that led the EuroChallenge in PPG and APG, averring 19/6 last year..........

http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=003455&clubcode=LJU

Oh wow, look, that's a whole 6 points and 2 assists per game, on one of the worst teams, at Euroleague level. Wow, what a hell of a player he is.........

:facepalm :rolleyes:

Your trolling isn't even remotely adequate anymore Nick.

Heavincent
11-22-2011, 05:06 PM
Your trolling isn't even remotely adequate anymore Nick.

Says the guy with the title "Crazed Troll" under his username :lol

DuMa
11-22-2011, 05:06 PM
video please. god damn i love me some NBA domination

gutshot
11-22-2011, 05:07 PM
Deron is the king of Istanbul:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

post a link when you get a chance!

Are they advertising Williams alot over there? Is his face on massive billboards and is he on TV advertisements?

No, not much advertising. And it's pretty bad actually! Some even are not aware of his existence :/ Turks love basketball but their main thing is soccer.. I wish Deron played for a bigger team like Fenerbahce. Then 15.000 spectators at average would watch all his games...

gutshot
11-22-2011, 05:12 PM
video please. god damn i love me some NBA domination

You should be able to see whole game here clicking through - mins
http://www.yildiz.tv/?act=dvr&chan=trt3

Working on it.. Will upload on youtube if all goes well

Nick Young
11-22-2011, 05:14 PM
Don't worry, Deron will make Besiktas into a big team and make people care more about Turkish league

Grinder
11-22-2011, 05:15 PM
I watched this game live in Istanbul.. The thing is he did not even play so hard! He casually dropped 50 but could easily have scored 60+ had he played with more aggression and with better teammates!

Also.. Keep in mind that, 50 pts translate to 68-70 pts of NBA.. So, it was such a biggggggggg performance.. All Besiktas spectators stood up in the end and chanted "Deron Williams" passionately.. Amazing moment this was! Thanks Deron!

Yep, he literally scored those 50 points in the flow of the game and didn't force any wild shots and looked for his teammates throughout the game. His teammates were bobbling passes and missing shots all over the place or else he would have double digit assists too. If he played selfishly, he could have easily had 60+.

Truly an amazing performance, regardless of who he was playing.

PTB Fan
11-22-2011, 05:17 PM
D-Will dropped 50? Damn... looking forward to see that. Amazing performance for sure :bowdown:

Jan95
11-22-2011, 05:22 PM
:lol

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
11-22-2011, 05:22 PM
We need highlights asap!

StroShow4
11-22-2011, 05:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16CU0VT1uC4

Sakkreth
11-22-2011, 05:30 PM
50 points is always an amazing performance, props to D-Will doing his stuff unlike some guys from my hometown team -__- . That german team is crap though.

StroShow4
11-22-2011, 05:33 PM
The three at 1:45... :bowdown:

Nets fan 93
11-22-2011, 05:35 PM
You guys are such insane trolls.

I have been saying over and over here that 18 points a game in EuroChallenge level was pathetic and nothing. You ALL argued and said such play was "GOAT in history of Europe".

Now you IDIOTS are exposed, proven WRONG, and I am PROVEN RIGHT.

Like I said over and over 18 points a game in EuroChallenge is terrible.

This is the freaking EuroChallenge. He should be getting 35 a game average.

Do you fools have any grasp of how terrible this league is?

It's one of the worst leagues in all of Europe.

This game only PROVES what I have been saying all along. He has been paying like total SHIT all season so far, based on the level of the competition.

And if ANYONE here argues that they are a PROVEN TROLL.

This PROVES the level is as low as I said it was all along.

And you fools are too stupid to even grasp that this VERIFIES all the claims I been making so far.

VINDICATION
Are you reading the Stats? He was extremely efficient. It's not like he isnt being defended either. I do agree 40-20 should never be thought. But he is doing GREAT. HE has finally transitioned fully and is taking over.

PTB Fan
11-22-2011, 05:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16CU0VT1uC4

:applause: :bowdown:

RRR3
11-22-2011, 05:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16CU0VT1uC4
I don't care where or who he's playing, the shots he was hitting were ****ing incredible. :applause: :bowdown:

Clutch
11-22-2011, 05:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16CU0VT1uC4
Amazing performance by Deron :bowdown:

They barely won against those Germans scrubs even with D-Will's 50 points.
I wonder what will happen if they sign another star/superstar.

winwin
11-22-2011, 05:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16CU0VT1uC4
you should create a thread for the link ,, evertone wants it ..



and sorry about the stupid comment last month

Ruutu
11-22-2011, 05:53 PM
Very good performance!

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 05:54 PM
Not even Scalabrine?:wtf:

Scalabrine does not play in EuroChallenge.

RRR3
11-22-2011, 05:55 PM
Scalabrine does not play in EuroChallenge.
Can you admit this was a great game? I'm not trying to get you to say anything about any particular league in Europe, but can you at least give DWill props without any strings attached? come on dude. Watch the video; he was dominating-hitting crazy threes with guys right on him, driving to the hoop at will...

Andrei89
11-22-2011, 05:56 PM
Scalabrine does not play in EuroChallenge.


Shut up **** whore ******. you like the attention more than your momma likes d1ck

you made homo

rodman91
11-22-2011, 05:56 PM
He had 42 against Thunders in NBA..I don't know why people go crazy 50 versus a weak team.:confusedshrug:

StroShow4
11-22-2011, 05:58 PM
you should create a thread for the link ,, evertone wants it ..



and sorry about the stupid comment last month

I put in the OP.


What stupid comment? I don't remember anything.

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 05:58 PM
Yep, he literally scored those 50 points in the flow of the game and didn't force any wild shots and looked for his teammates throughout the game. His teammates were bobbling passes and missing shots all over the place or else he would have double digit assists too. If he played selfishly, he could have easily had 60+.

Truly an amazing performance, regardless of who he was playing.

You just can't help yourself can you?

Uh no. It's not a "truly amazing performance" considering who he was in fact playing against.

BlackJoker23
11-22-2011, 06:00 PM
damn deron shitting on eurotrash without even trying. that nikka making it look 2EZ :bowdown:

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 06:00 PM
Not surprised. i mean a NBA scrub like Anthony Parker is the Euroleague goat

Only in the minds of the delusional NBA only fans on this forum.

RRR3
11-22-2011, 06:01 PM
http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/ff5da9975d9191f283a35ea6f0ca0ef4.jpg

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 06:01 PM
Are you reading the Stats? He was extremely efficient. It's not like he isnt being defended either. I do agree 40-20 should never be thought. But he is doing GREAT. HE has finally transitioned fully and is taking over.

It's the EuroChallenge. He should be able to takeover under any situation. It's one of the worst leagues in Europe. This is fairly meaningless, it's just that Ginder is a huge troll and most of the people responding have IQs in the low 80s.

gutshot
11-22-2011, 06:03 PM
http://www.nationalturk.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/besiktas-deron-williams-turkish-basketball-nationalturk-0925.jpg

Watch all his baskets here: ------------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmGeei32HG0

Soon I will upload the whole game.. Looks like TV cameras got me too, my friends say ^^

shole
11-22-2011, 06:03 PM
He had 42 against Thunders in NBA..I don't know why people go crazy 50 versus a weak team.:confusedshrug:

Cause he did it in 36 minutes. And in European basketball it's much harder for one player to score ridiculous amount of points.

LoneyROY7
11-22-2011, 06:04 PM
D-Will going H.A.M on the Euros.

Euroleague is OFFICIALLY ruined.

Miller for 3
11-22-2011, 06:05 PM
Navarro's 35 against Macedonia and Dwill's 50 are the best performances ive seen during the lockout :bowdown: :bowdown:

Clutch
11-22-2011, 06:05 PM
This reminds me of the NBA season.
Trolling is flourishing right now, just like after LeBron disappeared in the 4th/Lakers got swept/Epic choke job by the Heat/Insert another moment suitable for trolling.

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 06:06 PM
Can you admit this was a great game? I'm not trying to get you to say anything about any particular league in Europe, but can you at least give DWill props without any strings attached? come on dude. Watch the video; he was dominating-hitting crazy threes with guys right on him, driving to the hoop at will...

No. Not a great game. Not against that level of competition, not considering it's perhaps the best point guard in the NBA.

Hot hand.......sure. That's about all it is.

The forum saying otherwise, is an indictment on just how low the knowledge of basketball here is.

I'm sorry, but I'm really not impressed in the least, that the guy that I personally consider the NBA's best point guard, scored 50 points against the worst team in the German League (with 1-8 record), the same German League that happens to be about the 9th or 10th best league in Europe.

Hey, if that impresses you, so be it. Be impressed. But nothing at all impressive about it to me. If he does something that is actually impressive this season, I will let you know.

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 06:07 PM
He had 42 against Thunders in NBA..I don't know why people go crazy 50 versus a weak team.:confusedshrug:

Because they obviously do not have an IQ over 83.

LoneyROY7
11-22-2011, 06:08 PM
ROFL the euro troll is melting down.

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 06:09 PM
Cause he did it in 36 minutes. And in European basketball it's much harder for one player to score ridiculous amount of points.

Wrong. It's way EASIER to do it in EuroChallenge.

"European basketball"....this isn't real European basketball. This is a minor league version of it.

Dave3
11-22-2011, 06:10 PM
Because they obviously do not have an IQ over 83.
Why not 82 or 84? Why 83? What's the significance of an 83 IQ?

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 06:10 PM
D-Will going H.A.M on the Euros.

Euroleague is OFFICIALLY ruined.

He does not play in the Euroleague genius.

Nick Young
11-22-2011, 06:11 PM
No. Not a great game. Not against that level of competition, not considering it's perhaps the best point guard in the NBA.

Hot hand.......sure. That's about all it is.

The forum saying otherwise, is an indictment on just how low the knowledge of basketball here is.

I'm sorry, but I'm really not impressed in the least, that they guy that I personally consider the NBA's best point guard, scored 50 points against the worst team in the German League (with 1-8 record), the same German League that happens to be about the 9th or 10th best league in Europe.

Hey, if that impresses you, so be it. Be impressed. But nothing at all impressive about it to me. If he does something that is actually impressive this season, I will let you know.
What kind of performance from Deron would impress you then?

B-Low
11-22-2011, 06:11 PM
http://i.imgur.com/KEOne.jpg

:oldlol:

repped

pegasus
11-22-2011, 06:11 PM
He does not play in the Euroleague genius.

He's referring to you, idiot.:lol

LoneyROY7
11-22-2011, 06:12 PM
He does not play in the Euroleague genius.

By "Euroleague" I meant YOU...genius.

Keep getting owned troll.

Clutch
11-22-2011, 06:15 PM
Euroleague getting ass raped in this thread :lol

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 06:16 PM
Euroleague getting ass raped in this thread :lol


Nope.

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 06:17 PM
Why not 82 or 84? Why 83? What's the significance of an 83 IQ?

A IQ of 80-83 is the average IQ level of people that have no ability to grasp or perceive anything outside their own paradigm.

Clearly, most of the people posting here in this thread are in the 80-83 bracket.

gutshot
11-22-2011, 06:17 PM
Pardon my ignorance please but WTH are you guys talking about here? So lame! I was one of those lucky guys who happened to be there in the arena to see D-Will go crazy.. Now I am checking this thread and this is making me mad really.. Stop it! Don't spoil the night

Sakkreth
11-22-2011, 06:18 PM
Performance was great, but some of you should understand that it wasn't euroleague game and that D-Will doesn't play in euroleague.

CeltsGarlic
11-22-2011, 06:18 PM
wait....wait.....wait....


Deron dropped 50??:eek: :eek: :eek:


:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: to the greatest player in eurochallenge history
COMPLETELY agree. Euroleague would probobly agree too.

Nick Young
11-22-2011, 06:19 PM
Pardon my ignorance please but WTH are you guys talking about here? So lame! I was one of those lucky guys who happened to be there in the arena to see D-Will go crazy.. Now I am checking this thread and this is making me mad really.. Stop it! Don't spoil the night
It was one of if not the greatest scoring performances in Turkish basketball and the greatest scoring performance in Eurochallenge history you just witnessed, don't let this idiot from Arkansas ruin it for you, Besiktas gained alot of international fans today.

pegasus
11-22-2011, 06:19 PM
Pardon my ignorance please but WTH are you guys talking about here? So lame! I was one of those lucky guys who happened to be there in the arena to see D-Will go crazy.. Now I am checking this thread and this is making me mad really.. Stop it! Don't spoil the night

Thanks for posting the link.:applause:

He made some great moves and hit difficult shots. I can't believe that the game was very close until the last minute despite his heroics.

gutshot
11-22-2011, 06:22 PM
Thanks for posting the link.:applause:

He made some great moves and hit difficult shots. I can't believe that the game was very close until the last minute despite his heroics.

Yes, the game was damn close till the last minute.. Because D-Will is playing alongside bunch of mediocre players.. 0 defense :mad: D-Will went crazy in the last two minutes scoring 10 minutes and that's how Besiktas managed to win it really lol

rodman91
11-22-2011, 06:24 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll95vgTHsG1qh1c10o1_400.jpg

:roll:

Sakkreth
11-22-2011, 06:25 PM
Damn people going crazy here due to this lockout thing :lol

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 06:27 PM
What kind of performance from Deron would impress you then?

Something that is actually relevant. That actually would mean anything. That would actually be against something other than extremely low levels of European competition.

Say something like winning the Turkish League championship with a sweep of the playoffs. Something like that would be fairly impressive. This is not. Sorry.

Let's see him drop 50 against a Euroleague team, even mediocre ones like Fener and Efes. If that happens, I would say it was impressive......if they played their normal players in the game.

This? Sorry, but no. This is nothing much beyond what I EXPECTED him to do.

This is why Grinder is a truly sad and pathetic troll. He finds this impressive, while I was expecting this all along, and expecting him to average 35 a game in EuroChallenge.

You see, Grinder, you, the others here EXTREMELY OVERRATE all of basketball in Europe and UNDERRATE the NBA, yet you are such colossal morons that you claim the opposite.

You guys are either idiots or trolls, or both.

I'm simply dealing in REALITY. IMO the best PG of the NBA, paying against basically minor league level in Europe...........yeah 50 points don't impress me much.

Basically, it proves that once again, I'm not the troll here. Think about it man, just grasp what you are saying. You are saying the NBA is a big time POS league, HUGE POS league, if you are impressed by it's arguably best PG getting 50 once in one of the bottom leagues of Europe.

How good is the NBA Nick?

Grinder's premise is fatally flawed, and then he trolls with it, then the morons jump in. If what D-Will did was impressive, then by default that means the NBA is garbage. Because in all reality, this would not even be impressive IMO if the best Euroleague PG did it.

The best points in Euroleague did it.....not impressive to me honestly. yet somehow I am to be impressed the best PG of the NBA did it and then I am to take from this that the NBA is a billion times better than the Euroleague like you trolls claim here?

Sorry, but you guys are simply incapable of logic.

gutshot
11-22-2011, 06:33 PM
winning the Turkish League championship with a sweep of the playoffs

Honestly it's like 1% possibility for Besiktas to win TL.. But reports indicate Besiktas is going after Duol Deng. He is the perfect fit! Team needs energy and toughness.. if this deal is done, I am sure Besiktas will turn unstoppable and win everything that is there to win ; )

chains5000
11-22-2011, 06:34 PM
Less than 3 hours and over 130 posts in a thread with no Kobe or Lebron in the title.
The lockout making possible the impossible.

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 06:34 PM
Performance was great, but some of you should understand that it wasn't euroleague game and that D-Will doesn't play in euroleague.

Forget that it's not Euroleague. Even if it was Eurocup, maybe even Turkish League, depending on the opponent.............

But EuroChallenge, against the worst team of the BBL? Sorry, but I can't get "impressed" on it, and it sure is not the best game ever in Europe, as some are implying.

I simply understand it is the best NBA PG, or certainly one of the best, playing with a hot hand, against a second division level German team......

I mean seriously, this is not impressive to anyone with half a brain. It's definitely a good game. But it's not nearly what the trolls are claiming it is.

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 06:35 PM
Honestly it's like 1% possibility for Besiktas to win TL.. But reports indicate Besiktas is going after Duol Deng. He is the perfect fit! Team needs energy and toughness.. if this deal is done, I am sure Besiktas will turn unstoppable and win everything that is there to win ; )

Besiktas fans don't seem to know much about basketball.

Harison
11-22-2011, 06:36 PM
Watched the game, DWill was red-hot, and he could have easily scored as much if not more in the NBA on the night like this (extra minutes, softer rules).

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 06:37 PM
Less than 3 hours and over 130 posts in a thread with no Kobe or Lebron in the title.
The lockout making possible the impossible.

Tell me, is this the greatest game ever played in Europe..........like the NBA fans here are claiming.

I'm curious.

pegasus
11-22-2011, 06:38 PM
Forget that it's not Euroleague. Even if it was Eurocup, maybe even Turkish League depending on the opponent.............

But EuroChallenge, against the worst team of the BBL? Sorry, but I can't get impressed on it.

I simply understand it is the best NBA PG, or certainly one of the best, playing with a hot hand, against a second division level German team......

I mean seriously, this is not impressive to anyone with half a brain. It's definitely a good game. But it's not nearly what the trolls are claiming it is.

Fact 1: You're the only one who's not impressed.
Fact 2: You've got half a brain.
Fact 3: There are monkeys in Arkansas Zoo who are smarter than you.

chains5000
11-22-2011, 06:38 PM
Tell me, is this the greatest game ever played in Europe..........like the NBA fans here are claiming.

I'm curious.
Obviously not. That's what makes this many posts incredible.
That said, completely thread worthy.

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 06:40 PM
Fact 1: You're the only one who's not impressed.
Fact 2: You've got half a brain.
Fact 3: There are monkeys in Arkansas Zoo who are smarter than you.

You don't understand the meaning of the word fact.

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 06:41 PM
Obviously not. That's what makes this many posts incredible.
That said, completely thread worthy.

Thread worthy...yes.

But NOT in the way Grinder wrote about it.


Unbelievable performance...watched the whole game. Some of the shots D-Will hit were of an insane degree of difficulty. It was against the German team Gottingen in the EuroChallenge. They were throwing hard doubles at him the entire second half and he still managed to get free. He had some huge shots in the clutch to get Besiktas the win.

17/23 from the field and 7/10 from 3. Highlights should be up soon, you've gotta check out some of the contested 3s he hit.

The guy is a troll, and most people here are just too stupid to figure it out.

ZenMaster
11-22-2011, 06:43 PM
Nice game, but lol Gottingen, they're 1-8 in the German bundesliga.

Would be fun to see what Durant will do to team like this.

gutshot
11-22-2011, 06:43 PM
Besiktas fans don't seem to know much about basketball.

Not even a Besiktas fan. Should have noticed those red stuff under your name before.. clueless dumbass troll! I won't ever bother replying from now on ; )

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 06:45 PM
Nice game, but lol Gottingen, they're 1-8 in the German bundesliga.

Would be fun to see what Durant will do to team like this.

Well, D-Will had a hot hand. So it's not going to be a normal score, because of that.

But if Durant had a hot hand, he would do the same to them, if he wanted to take enough shots. Hell, plenty of guys in Europe could do it.

It's just not a team with the level to counter good scorers like that.

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 06:46 PM
Not even a Besiktas fan. Should have noticed those red stuff under your name before.. clueless dumbass troll! I won't ever bother replying from now on ; )

My feelings are hurt man.

Jon_Koncak
11-22-2011, 06:53 PM
Of course it was against a crappy team..so what?Every great european player goes against crappy opponents dozens of times each season.When was the last time Teodosic,Diamantidis or..Huertas scored 50 points even against a Goetinghen caliber team?It takes unique skills to achieve sth like this.D-Will has them,the likes of Diamantidis,Spanoulis,Teodosic don't.

FF1
11-22-2011, 06:57 PM
Domination :cheers:

ZenMaster
11-22-2011, 06:57 PM
Of course it was against a crappy team..so what?Every great european player goes against crappy opponents dozens of times each season.When was the last time Teodosic,Diamantidis or..Huertas scored 50 points even against a Goetinghen caliber team?It takes unique skills to achieve sth like this.D-Will has them,the likes of Diamantidis,Spanoulis,Teodosic don't.


When does Teodosic or Huertas go against low level teams like Gottingen?

They're 1-8 in Germany, a league made of American players that are not good enough for the major leagues. Deron Williams might be the best pg in the world all things considered.

We play German youth teams and compete against them very well, and we're lower ranked in terms of the main league.

Jon_Koncak
11-22-2011, 07:00 PM
Bottom teams of russian league or greek league or spanish league arent that much better than Goetighen.There are crappy teams on the bottom of every league.

rodman91
11-22-2011, 07:00 PM
Deron must score 153 points to break record for Turkish Basketball league :lol

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 07:06 PM
Of course it was against a crappy team..so what?Every great european player goes against crappy opponents dozens of times each season.When was the last time Teodosic,Diamantidis or..Huertas scored 50 points even against a Goetinghen caliber team?It takes unique skills to achieve sth like this.D-Will has them,the likes of Diamantidis,Spanoulis,Teodosic don't.

What the hell are you smoking? Put down the crack pipe.

Diamantidis is a mediocre offensive player. Teodosic is a streak shooter.

I don't know why the hell you mention them.........

Spanoulis? Iv'e seen Spanoulis dominate Team USA. I've seen him score 30 points games against teams like Panionios with barely even trying.

Spanoulis, Navarro...........players like that could get 50 against the same competition EASILY with a hot hand.

Diamantidis and Teodosic are not even considered good scorers in Euroleague. Why the hell would you mention them?

Huertas is a pass first point guard. he would never in his life even attempt that many shots. Get real. Why the hell did you not mention Rubio and Prigioni? Let me guess......."why didn't they score 50 either"? Right?

KingBeasley08
11-22-2011, 07:06 PM
greatest player in Turkish league history

ZenMaster
11-22-2011, 07:07 PM
Bottom teams of russian league or greek league or spanish league arent that much better than Goetighen.There are crappy teams on the bottom of every league.

Generally the worser the league the worser the top teams and bottom teams.

Just like the worst team of teams of the D-leauge are worse thean the worst teams of the NBA.

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 07:09 PM
When does Teodosic or Huertas go against low level teams like Gottingen?



Never. But he will come up with some kind of totally imaginary bull shit trying to claim otherwise.

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 07:10 PM
Bottom teams of russian league or greek league or spanish league arent that much better than Goetighen.There are crappy teams on the bottom of every league.

Put down the crack pipe.

madmax
11-22-2011, 07:10 PM
Bottom teams of russian league or greek league or spanish league arent that much better than Goetighen.There are crappy teams on the bottom of every league.

LMAO...:lol
And you still have decency to come to IBN and troll there? Pathetic...

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 07:11 PM
greatest player in Turkish league history

Too bad this wasn't even a Turkish League game.........

Hyman
11-22-2011, 07:12 PM
Navarro has been all his career playing in Europe, sometimes against very weak teams and he has never been close of scoring 50 teams.

The performance of Williams, at european standards is amazing. Scoring 50 points in Europe is like scoring 65 points in NBA.

In Europe nowone scores 50 points maybe for years.

I dont think nobody in euroleague, ulebcup or eurochallenge has scored 50 points for the last, maybe, 20 years.

So yeah, the opposition is weak but the performance of Williams is brutal. Spanoulis or Navarro had face through out their careers much weaker opposition and they never been near of scoring that amount of points

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 07:15 PM
Generally the worser the league the worser the top teams and bottom teams.

Just like the worst team of teams of the D-leauge are worse thean the worst teams of the NBA.

He's just trolling or he has no clue what the hell he is talking about. The worst teams in Spain or Greece would make playoffs in Germany with relative ease.

Go Getter
11-22-2011, 07:16 PM
euro goat. shits on galis especially
:roll: :oldlol: :roll: :oldlol:

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 07:17 PM
Navarro has been all his career playing in Europe, sometimes against very weak teams and he has never been close of scoring 50 teams.

The performance of Williams, at european standards is amazing. Scoring 50 points in Europe is like scoring 65 points in NBA.

In Europe nowone scores 50 points maybe for years.

I dont think nobody in euroleague, ulebcup or eurochallenge has scored 50 points for the last, maybe, 20 years.

So yeah, the opposition is weak but the performance of Williams is brutal. Spanoulis or Navarro had face through out their careers much weaker opposition and they never been near of scoring that amount of points

Spanoulis, Navarro, Rakocevic, Teletovic.......that's just coming to mind off the top of my head right off - no problem for them to score 50 against the same team, if they were hot (in the zone like Williams was) and IF they decided to take that many shots.

Spanoulis and Navarro could do it without any problem at all if they were hot and wanted to do it and the coach let them.

SyRyanYang
11-22-2011, 07:19 PM
Because it proves I was right all along. I have said over and over his performance so far was terrible for the level of competition. For this I am a "troll".

While trolls like Grinder make false claims about how he was "dominating".

This game is 100% PROOF I was telling the truth and Grinder was a liar.

This verifies my claims about how he is playing in one of the worst leagues on the European continent.

It's quite amusing that Grinder is too stupid to even grasp that it confirms my comments and proves him to be a troll.


Sounds like you expected much more out of Dwill.

KingBeasley08
11-22-2011, 07:19 PM
Honestly, Deron is on another planet right now.

Deron >>>>>>>>>>> VSpan

This kinda domination is just great to watch :bowdown:

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 07:21 PM
Spanoulis or Navarro had face through out their careers much weaker opposition and they never been near of scoring that amount of points


This is an unacceptable level of trolling, even for this forum.

SunsCaptain
11-22-2011, 07:23 PM
Greece is terrible at basketball.

Why do you hate basketball so much?

Rooster
11-22-2011, 07:29 PM
LMAO Career highs are dropping like flies

In Europe where they play much tougher defense

Acie Law, Farmar, Vujavic, Pekovic in barely a month:bowdown:

Who's next:lol

It took 5 years for DWill to score 42

In Europe just over a month:bowdown:

Whatever happened to the defense:rolleyes:

White Mamba and Ammo is still tearing it up:rockon:
:roll: :roll: :roll:

KingBeasley08
11-22-2011, 07:31 PM
LMAO Career highs are dropping like flies

In Europe where they play much tougher defense

Acie Law, Farmar, Vujavic, Pekovic in barely a month:bowdown:

Who's next:lol

It took 5 years for DWill to score 42

In Europe just over a month:bowdown:

Whatever happened to the defense:rolleyes:

White Mamba and Ammo is still tearing it up:rockon:
:roll: :roll: :roll:
DWill could probably beat most of these good Euro teams just by himself. Euroleague is just hatin right now :oldlol:

Nick Young
11-22-2011, 07:33 PM
Spanoulis, Navarro, Rakocevic, Teletovic.......that's just coming to mind off the top of my head right off - no problem for them to score 50 against the same team, if they were hot (in the zone like Williams was) and IF they decided to take that many shots.

Spanoulis and Navarro could do it without any problem at all if they were hot and wanted to do it and the coach let them.
LOL Williams wasn't even in "the zone", he was not doing anything special or trying to take over, he was just taking what the defense gave him and hitting shots.

If D-Will can shoot like this in Europe imagine how much damage Kyle Korver or Nick Young, who are both taller and better long range shooters than D-Will, would do

rodman91
11-22-2011, 07:39 PM
I don't want to spoil all the fun here but.. When Deron scores 50 against some weak team from Europe everyone trash european basketball people lose minds..

French rookie Rodrigue Beaubois had 40 points 8 rebounds in 30 minutes vs Golden State Warriors in NBA basketball.

40 points,8 rebounds,3 blocks..
FG:15/22 (68%)
3pt:9/11 (82%)

Just sayin'

:lol

Rooster
11-22-2011, 07:43 PM
I don't want to spoil all the fun here but.. When Deron scores 50 against some weak team from Europe everyone trash european basketball people lose minds..

French rookie Rodrigue Beaubois had 40 points 8 rebounds in 30 minutes vs Golden State Warriors in NBA basketball.

40 points,8 rebounds,3 blocks..
FG:15/22 (68%)
3pt:9/11 (82%)

Just sayin'

:lol

Europe play tougher defense

Than Golden State

Just sayin

rodman91
11-22-2011, 07:45 PM
Europe play tougher defense

Than Golden State

Just sayin

BG Gottingen plays tougher defense than Warriors? :lol

Fiasco
11-22-2011, 07:47 PM
Europe play tougher defense

Than Golden State

Just sayin

Cardboard cutouts of the Golden State Warriors play tougher defense than the Golden State Warriors.

ZenMaster
11-22-2011, 07:48 PM
Europe play tougher defense

Than Golden State

Just sayin

If Gottingen plays better D than Golden State then you have a problem that might be bigger than the lockout.

Rooster
11-22-2011, 07:52 PM
BG Gottingen plays tougher defense than Warriors? :lol


Yes they put more effort

They are just overmatched

With DWill greatness:bowdown:

Golden State offense

Is Their best defense.

NBA does not play defense.:no:

Europe play great defense:rockon:

Farmar is the best example:applause:

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
11-22-2011, 07:52 PM
You Europeans are incredibly sensitive. Wow :oldlol:

Rooster
11-22-2011, 07:56 PM
If Gottingen plays better D than Golden State then you have a problem that might be bigger than the lockout.

Euroleague will cosign.

I completely agree with his objective assessment.

Europe defense is better.

NBA is not worthy

LMAO:bowdown:

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 08:01 PM
Unlike you, I'm not for Arkansas, I'm actually from Europe. The first league in Germany is NOT the 12th best league in Europe. You're the liar/troll here bro.

That team will be relegated to the second division of Germany. Which maybe is a top 50 league in Europe. I was trying to be nice......

Euroleague
11-22-2011, 08:30 PM
Europe play tougher defense

Than Golden State

Just sayin

The worst team of the BBL..........:lol :oldlol: :roll:

FF1
11-22-2011, 08:32 PM
Man D-Will is tearing it up!

Applause
11-22-2011, 08:36 PM
NBA is taking over:roll:

Farmar is leading his team in points, assist, rebounds:oldlol:

Kirilenko is the best player in Europe:bowdown:

Batum look like superman in Europe:bowdown:

Pekovic and Acie Law is batman and Robin in Partizan:bowdown:

VSpan is turnover machine in Greece

Sasha put up his career high 26 points at Efes LMAO

And DWill put up an halfheartedly 50 points on the Nazis

GOAT:bowdown:


:roll: :roll: :applause: :applause:

swi7ch
11-22-2011, 09:22 PM
DWill arguably top Euro PG of all time! :bowdown:

KingBeasley08
11-22-2011, 10:19 PM
DWill arguably top Euro PG of all time! :bowdown:
not arguable. he clearly is :oldlol:

creepingdeath
11-22-2011, 10:23 PM
Bragging about a 50 point game in EuroChallenge by Deron Williams...

Calling this the greatest game ever in Europe, saying this officially proves he is the greatest player in Europe's history...

You have reached an all time low for trolling.

Grinder continues to TROLL the hell out of this forum.

This is maybe, something like the 12th best basketball league in Europe.
http://macromeme.com/cat/oh-he-mad.jpg

rodman91
11-22-2011, 10:23 PM
I don't want to think what will happen on ISH when other great players signed up with European teams.

Durant,Dirk and others...

Clutch
11-23-2011, 01:13 AM
You Europeans are incredibly sensitive. Wow :oldlol:
Europeans ?
That guy is from Arkansas :lol

gutshot
11-23-2011, 12:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=WHtHZAdPJH8&vq=hd720

swi7ch
11-23-2011, 12:30 PM
Euro GOAT PG! :bowdown:

EnoughSaid
11-23-2011, 12:32 PM
"deron wiliams is a superstar of basket and the eurochallenge is the third european basketball competition, really are you surprised?"

Euroleague prolly posted that shit.

Derrick
11-23-2011, 12:50 PM
Lol Dwill doesnt score many points, euroleague takes it as a proven point. He drops 50, and its vindication? You have an excuse for everything