Pre-1991 Playoff Gamelogs of players

[Fatal9]

I was hoping to make this thread a database of game logs for some players before 1991 (when bballreference stops showing boxscores for playoff games). I know couple of people asked for it in some earlier topics so I'll post what I have here.

I had these saved on my old computer from over the years so I'll start off with some logs of Hakeem, Barkley, Magic, Bird, KAJ etc etc. I haven't completed all of them, but if anyone wants to help out then do it. I know few other people also look at this stuff so it's probably better and more efficient if we combine our resources.

Pts/rebs/asts/blks (fgm/fga, ftm/fta)


Here are Kareem's from his prime '70-'81 (will add others later)

1970

vs. Sixers:
Game 1: 36 pts, 20 rebs (13/?, 10/13)
Game 2: 33 pts, 10 rebs
Game 3: 33 pts, 17 rebs (13/16, ?/?)
Game 4: 33 pts, 7 rebs
Game 5: 46 pts, 25 rebounds (18/36, 10/15)


vs. Knicks (logs of Reed also included):
Game 1: 35/15/5 (14/24, 7/11), Reed – 24/12/4 (10/19, 4/4)
Game 2: 38/23/11 (16/25, 6/12), Reed – 36/19/2 (14/23, 8/10)
Game 3: 33/31/5 (14/28, 5/7), Reed – 21/10/2 (10/20, 1/3)
Game 4: 38/9/1 (14/26, 10/13), Reed – 26/10/3 (13/29)
Game 5: 27/11/2 (11/22, 5/5) (played only 32 mints), Reed – 32/10/4 (14/22, 4/6).

1971

vs. Warriors:
haven't look at this series yet


vs. Lakers (Wilt's logs also included):
Game 1: 32/22/1/1 (14/30, 4/7) Wilt: 20/22/1/8 (10/19, 2/10)
Game 2: 22/11/4 (9/19, 4/8) Wilt: 24/20/3 (10/21, 6/8)
Game 3: 20/19/6 (8/16, 4/5) Wilt: 24/24/3 (9/19, 6/12)
Game 4:31/20/5 (14/20) Wilt: 15/16/2 (7/14)
Game 5: 20/15/5/3 (7/23, 6/8) Wilt: 23/12/4/6 (10/21, 3/9)


vs. Bullets:
http://webuns.chez-alice.fr/finals/1971.htm

1972

vs. Warriors:

G1: 28/15/5 (13/29)
G2: 25/22/8 (12/27)
G3: 23/16/5 (10/26)
G4: 15/20/6 (6/17)
G5: 23/22/3 (8/22)

vs. Lakers (logs of Wilt also included):

Game 1: 33/18/2 (14/26, 5/7) Wilt: 10/24/0 (3/12, 4/16)
Game 2: 40/7/7 (18/31, 4/4) Wilt: 11/17/4 (3/5, 5/13)
Game 3: 33/21/6 (15/37, 3/5) Wilt: 5/11/4/10 (1/3, 5/9)
Game 4: 31/18/3/7 (14/33, 2/2) Wilt: 5/11/4/3 (2/7, 1/8)
Game 5: 28/16/3 (13/33, 2/2) Wilt: 12/26/6/? (2/3, 8/8)
Game 6: 37/25/8 (16/37, 5/5) Wilt: 20/24/2/9 (8/12, 4/7)


1973

vs. Warriors:

G1: 22/24/1 (10/24)
G2: 26/15/3 (12/20, 2/5)
G3: 18/18 (8/24)
G4: 25/14/5 (8/19, 9/10)
G5: 19/12/4 (8/24)
G6: 27/14/2 (13/27, 1/4)

1974

vs. Lakers:
Game 1: 35/21/2/6/4 (16/22)
Game 2: 32/25/3 (13/28)
Game 3: 29/15/4/1/4 (12/23)
Game 4: 31/18/8/6/2 (12/18)
Game 5: 21/13/8/1/1 (9/18)

vs. Bulls:
Game1: 25/19/? ( )
Game 2: 44/21/3/3/1 (20/29)
Game 3: 32/14/6 (16/24)
Game 4: 38/24/4/2 (18/26 – 2/3)

vs. Celtics (finals):
http://webuns.chez-alice.fr/finals/1974.htm

G1: 35/14/5/3 (14/28, 7/9)
G2: 36/15/6/3 (15/31, 6/8)
G3: 26/10/5/2 (12/24, 2/4)
G4: 34/14/6/3 (14/24, 6/7)
G5: 37/11/6/2 (16/31, 5/7)
G6: 34/8/6/2 (16/26, 2/2)
G7: 26/13/4 (10/21, 6/11)


1977

vs. Warriors
Game 1: 27/16/7/3 (10/?, 7/12)
Game 2: 40/19/3/9 (18/? 4/6)
Game 3: 28/14/7/4 (12/20, 4/7)
Game 4: 41/18/3/0 (15/?, 11/16)
Game 5: 45/18/3/3 (16/28, 13/18)
Game 6: 43/20/3/4 (17/25, 9/11)
Game 7: 36/26/?/0 (14/26, 8/10)

Series avg = 37.6 ppg, 18.7 rpg, 3.3 bpg on 60.7% (102/168)

vs. Blazers (also Walton's logs):

G1: 30/10/5/0 (11/19, 8/9), Walton – 22/13/6/0 (10/16, 2/3)
G2: 40/17/1/3 (17/23, 6/9), Walton – 14/17/2/4 (7/13, 0/0)
G3: 21/20/7/8 (5/12, 11/13), Walton – 22/15/9/2 (11/20)
G4: 30/17/2/4 (12/20, 6/9), Walton – 19/14/6/3 (8/22, 3/5)

1978:

Vs. Sonics:

G1: 26/12/4/? ( )
G2: 24/18/4/7 ( )
G3: 31/11/3/? (15/28, 1/4)

1979

Vs. Nuggets:
G1: 23/12/?/? (7/?, 9/11)
G2: 32/12/3/2/2 (12/19)
G3: 29/16/8/6 (13/19, 3/5). hit series winning shot.

Vs. Sonics
G1: 25/11/?/? (8/?, 9/10)
G2: 31/15/2/7 (13/19, 5/?)
G3: 32/8/?/6 ( )
G4: 31/13/6/? (13/21, 5/6)
G5: 25/14/8/? (11/?, 3/4)

1980

vs. Suns:

G1:30/12/?/5
G2: 32/?/? (12/? – 8/12)
G3: 37/9/?/3 (13/? - 11/12 )
G4: 25/?/?
G5: 35/16/? (12/22 - 11/12)

vs. Sonics:

G1: 26/8/?/4 (12/?, 2/4)
G2: 31/16/? (14/? – 3/5)
G3: 33/13/? (15/21, 3/6)
G4: 25/10/4 (11/24 – 3/3)
G5:38/11/6/7 (15/26 – 8/11)


1981


vs. Rockets:

G1 – 21/15/7 (9/19, 3/6)
G2 – 27/17/1 (10/22, 7/10)
G3 – 32/18/4 (11/24, 10/12)

[Fatal9]

Hakeem ('86-'90)...some info missing but too lazy to check up on it again:


1986

Vs. Kings

G1: 29/15 + 4 blks (14/24, 1/2)
G2: 17/6 played only 27 mints due to foul trouble
G3: 14/13 (5/14, 4/10)

Vs. Nuggets

G1: 38/16 + 5 blks + 6 stls (18/27, 2/4)
G2: 18/14 (7/15, 4/7)
G3: 31/11 (9/17, 13/19)
G4: 23/? (11/22, 1/1)
G5: 36/19 (13/24, 10/17)
G6: 28/? (12/17, 4/8)

Vs. Lakers

G1: 28/16 + 4 blks (10/14, 8/13)
G2: 22/13 + 6 blks (8/20, 6/7)
G3: 40/12 (14/28, 12/15)
G4: 35/8 (11/23, 13/20)
G5: 30/7 (10/17, 10/15)

vs. Celtics:

http://webuns.chez-alice.fr/finals/1986.htm

1987

Blazers:
G1: 30/10 + 5 blks ()
G2: 17/? (4/8, 9/9) fouled out
G3: 35/11 + 8 blks (11/18, 13/16)
G4: 27/9/5 + 5 blks + 4 stls (11/19, 5/9)

Sonics:
G1: 28/16 (10/18, 8/11)
G2: 27/13 (10/18, 7/8)
G3: 34/11 + 4 blks
G4: 20/? (8/11, 4/8)
G5: 26/6/?/7 (10/18, 6/12)
G6: 49/25/?/6 (19/33, 11/13)

1988

vs. Mavericks (:eek:):

G1: 34/14 (12/20, 10/11)
G2: 41/26 + 4 blks + 3 stls (15/27, 11/14)
G3: 35/12 + 3 blks + 3 stls (13/27, 9/10)
G4: 40/15 (16/24, 8/8)

1989

vs. Sonics:

G1: 28/9/5 (11/26, 6/9)
G2: 30/12 (13/27, 4/5)
G3: 19/18 (7/11, 5/6)
G4: 24/13 (11/17, 2/6)

1990

vs. Lakers:

G1:
G2: 11/11 + 10 blks (4/15, 3/3)
G3: 22/? (10/17, 2/2)
G4: 28/14

[Micku]

Hakeem kicked ass in the playoffs. He turns into Super Hakeem.

[ShaqAttack3234]

Here are some that I have from 1990.

1990 ECSF Bulls vs 76ers

Jordan
Game 1- 39 points, 5 rebounds, 6 assists, 5 steals, 2 blocks, 16/30 FG, 2/4 3P, 5/6 FT
Game 2- 45 points, 8 rebounds, 7 assists, 3 steals, 18/36 FG, 1/3 3P, 8/8 FT
Game 3- 49 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 19/34 FG, 4/11 3P, 7/9 FT
Game 4- 45 points, 6 rebounds, 11 assists, 2 steals, 2 blocks, 16/31 FG 1/2 3P, 12/13 FT
Game 5- 37 points, 9 rebounds, 8 assists, 6 steals, 17/26 FG ,1/3 3P, 2/4 FT,

Barkley
Game 1- 30 points, 20 rebounds, 4 assists, 10/21 FG, 0/2 3P 10/11 FT
Game 2- 19 points, 16 rebounds, 7/11 FG, 1/3 3P, 1/1 FT
Game 3- 34 points, 20 rebounds, 8 assists, 10/18 FG, 0/1 3P, 14/21 FT
Game 4- 22 points, 13 rebounds, 8/17 FG, 0/1 3P, 6/15 FT
Game 5- 17 points, 13 rebounds, 6/10 FG, 5/10 FT

Pippen
Game 1- 18 points, 8 rebounds, 12 assists, 7/15 FG, 0/1 3P, 4/7 FT
Game 2- 16 points, 9 rebounds, 7/16 FG, 0/3 3P, 2/4 FT
Game 3- 20 points, 5/12 FG, 0/1 3P, 10/12 FT
Game 5- 29 points, 6 rebounds, 13/17 FG

Ewing

first round vs Boston
Game 1- 22 points, 9 rebounds, 9/14 FG, 4/10 FT
Game 2- 28 points, 8 rebounds, 11/18 FG, 6/6 FT
Game 3- 33 points, 19 rebounds, 14/34 FG, 5/10 FT
Game 4- 44 points, 13 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 blocks, 7 steals, 18/24 FG, 8/9 FT
Game 5- 31 points, 8 rebounds, 10 assists, 4 blocks, 14/26 FG, 1/1 3P, 2/2 FT

ECSF vs Detroit
Games 1- 19 points, 4 rebounds, 1 assist, 3 blocks, 2 turnovers, 9/18 FG, 1/2 FT
Game 2- 20 points, 0 assists, 5 turnovers, 9/20 FG, 2/2 FT
Game 3- 45 points, 13 rebounds, 6 assists, 3 blocks, 14/24 FG 17/18 FT
Game 4- 30 points, 9/18 FG, 12/12 FT
Game 5- 22 points, 7/23 FG

[che guevara]

Has anyone ever seen anything from 1988 Rockets/Mavs? I've looked but never seen even a single clip from that series.

[TAC602]

Olajuwon is just a sick joke when it comes to elimination games.

[Fatal9]

Has anyone ever seen anything from 1988 Rockets/Mavs? I've looked but never seen even a single clip from that series.
I've seen game 2 and 4. They are not in the best quality, I might upload his highlights from game 2 soon though. The guards shot dreadfully in that series (Sleepy Floyd had a big game 2 as well but in the other three games, just awful shooting).

[Fatal9]

Barkley '86-'90:

1986

Vs. Bullets

G1: 26/22/9 (11/19 FG, 4/8 FT)
G2: 27/20/6 (11/21, 4/7)
G3: 13/14/2 (5/14, 3/3)
G4: 22/15/7 (8/16, 6/10)
G5: 19/15/12 (8/12, 3/3)

Vs. Bucks:

G1: 31/20/6/6/2 (12/19, 7/13) Led come back from down 18 in third quarter.
G2: 26/15/4 (8/16, 10/13)
G3: 29/13/3 (10/14, 9/12)
G4: 37/14/9 + 3 blks (11/17, 15/19)
G5: 29/8/5 (8/13, 13/18)
G6: 23/21/2 (6/10, 11/18)
G7: 18/12/2/4 (6/9, 6/7) Lost at the buzzer by a point (Bucks were heavily favored due to injuries to Sixers)

1987 vs. Bucks:

G1: 21/13/2 + 6 blks (8/15, 4/4)
G2: 26/15/3/1 (9/15, 8/11)
G3: 39/9/2/2 (13/19, 13/14)
G4:25/13/4 (8/10, 9/14)
G5: 12/13/1 (5/16, 2/2)

1989 vs. Knicks:

G1: 22/12/6 (7/12, 7/12)
G2: 30/12/7 (10/17, 10/11)
G3: 29/11/3 (12/16, 5/8)

1990

Vs. Cavs

G1: 38/21 (15/25 FG, 7/11 FT)
G2: 32/8/6 (13/19, 5/11)
G3: 17/11 (5/10, 5/8)
G4: 23/11 (7/16, 8/13)
G5: 18/19 (7/15, 4/7)

Vs. Bulls

G1: 30/20/4 (10/21, 10/11)
G2: 16/19 (7/11, 1/1)
G3: 34/20/8 (10/18, 14/21)
G4: 22/13 (8/17, 6/15)
G5: 17/13/5 (6/10, 5/10)

[Fatal9]

Olajuwon is just a sick joke when it comes to elimination games.
In his prime ('93-'95), he faced elimination 10 times and his record was 9-1 in those games (and the game he lost was in overtime after his team got screwed). This is what he did in those games:

31/21/7/3/3
23/17/9/3/2
37/17/5/3
25/10/7/3
40/8/3
33/10/4
31/16/3
30/8/10/5
29/11/4

Doesn't even begin to explain all the clutch shots he hit in these games as well.

[magnax1]

Has the best player in the league ever been outplayed at his position like Kareem against Thurmond? Not really trying to make Kareem sound bad, but I'm just saying I'd love to see those series and see what happened. It definitely looks pretty bad on paper.

[Fatal9]

Has the best player in the league ever been outplayed at his position like Kareem against Thurmond? Not really trying to make Kareem sound bad, but I'm just saying I'd love to see those series and see what happened. It definitely looks pretty bad on paper.
Thurmond's statlines were often worse on worse percentages. I think '72 was the series where he outplayed him on paper (KAJ actually had a good series against him in '71...the best scoring series anyone's ever put on Thurmond, and outplayed him on paper in '73). Regardless, he did outplay Kareem in the sense that he did his job but KAJ didn't do his. If you were big and strong, you could really bother Kareem in his Bucks years (he was way too skinny, hadn't added the turnaround jumper yet etc etc). He could be flat out bullied out of position.

[magnax1]

Thurmond's statlines were often worse on worse percentages. I think '72 was the series where he outplayed him on paper (KAJ actually had a good series against him in '71...the best scoring series anyone's ever put on Thurmond, and outplayed him on paper in '73). Regardless, he did outplay Kareem in the sense that he did his job but KAJ didn't do his. If you were big and strong, you could really bother Kareem in his Bucks years (he was way too skinny, hadn't added the turnaround fadeaway yet etc etc). He could be flat out bullied out of position.
Well I was just thinking that on top of the stats, Thurmond was a much better defender. I know he didn't put up 23-15 like Kareem.

[jlip]

I really would like to see Magic's game logs from '80, '82, '86, and '87.

[TAC602]

In his prime ('93-'95), he faced elimination 10 times and his record was 9-1 in those games (and the game he lost was in overtime after his team got screwed). This is what he did in those games:

31/21/7/3/3
23/17/9/3/2
37/17/5/3
25/10/7/3
40/8/3
33/10/4
31/16/3
30/8/10/5
29/11/4

Doesn't even begin to explain all the clutch shots he hit in these games as well.

Those games I remember as they happened. No other basketball player has really come close to replacing Olajuwon as my No. 1 since then. Unfortunately, the Rockets got little national facetime in the mid-90s. It wasn't until after the unbelievable back-to-back runs that they got their due and while Olajuwon was still elite a couple years after (unbelievable in the 97 WCF) he was already entering his mid-30s.

Thanks for those logs and all the YT stuff. It's an addiction. :lol

[Round Mound]

Great Find :applause:

[chazzy]

Anyone have Bird/Nique gamelogs from the 88 ECSF?

[Miller for 3]

Thread saved. Fantastic stuff

[ShaqAttack3234]

Anyone have Bird/Nique gamelogs from the 88 ECSF?

This is all I have

Bird
Game 1- 38 points, 5 rebounds, 8 assists 15/25 FG, 3 3P, 5/6 FT
Game 2- 16 points, 7/14 FG, 2 3P
Game 3- 22 points, 9 rebounds, 9 assists 5/18 FG, 12/13 FT
Game 4- 30 points, 8 rebounds, 8 assists 12/19 FG, 6/7 FT
Game 5- 22 points, 9/21 FG, 4/6 FT
Game 6- 23 points, 11 rebounds, 10/22 FG, 3/3 FT
Game 7- 34 points, 4 rebounds, 5 assists 15/24 FG, 1 3P, 3/3 FT

Nique
Game 1- 25 points, 2 assists, 10/24 FG, 1 3P, 4/7 FT
Game 2- 22 points, 8/24 FG, 6/7 FT
Game 3- 25 points, 9/22 FG, 7/8 FT
Game 4- 40 points, 15/29 FG, 10/13 FT
Game 5- 25 points, 7/22 FG, 1 3P, 10/10 FT
Game 6- 35 points, 10 rebounds, 4 assists, 13/30 FG, 9/11 FT
Game 7- 47 points, 4 rebounds, 19/34 FG, 1 3P, 8/9 FT

Wish I had more outside of scoring numbers.

[Doranku]

Bump.

Also, does anyone have Oscar's box scores from the year he won the title?

[necya]

Has anyone ever seen anything from 1988 Rockets/Mavs? I've looked but never seen even a single clip from that series.

G1,2 and 4 are available but in bad quality.

[Miller for 3]

Bump.

Also, does anyone have Oscar's box scores from the year he won the title?

http://webuns.chez-alice.fr/finals/1971.htm

Heres the box scores of all the Finals games. Having trouble finding the other box scores of the other series

[PHILA]

1966 EDF vs. Celtics

G1 - 25 points, 32 rebounds, 9/?? FG
G2 - 23 points, 25 rebounds, 9/23 FG
G3 - 31 points, 27 rebounds, 12/22 FG
G4 - 15 points, 33 rebounds, 7/?? FG
G5 - 46 points, 34 rebounds, 19/34 FG


Averages in G1 & G4 - 20 ppg, 32.5 rpg, 52% FG (16/31)

Averages in G3 & G5 - 38.5 ppg, 30.5 rpg, 55% FG (31/56)

It appears G2 was easily his (and the Sixers) worst showing of the series. In G3 he grabbed 27 of the Sixers 69 rebounds and they won because Greer got hot down the stretch and Wilt finally got some help on the boards from Luke Jackson (15 rebounds). It may sound funny that a player averaging 30 boards needs help on the glass until you note how exceptionally poor the Sixers outside shooting was.



1967 EDSF vs. Royals

G1 - 41 points, 23 rebounds, 5 assists, 63% FG
G2 - 37 points, 27 rebounds, 11 assists, 67% FG
G3 - 16 points, 30 rebounds, 19 assists, 62% FG
G4 - 18 points, 27 rebounds, 9 assists, 50% FG

Series Average: 28.0 ppg, 26.8 rpg, 11 apg, 61% FG



1967 EDF vs. Celtics

G1 - 24 points, 32 rebounds, 12 assists, 12 blocks, 69% FG
G2 - 15 points, 29 rebounds, 5 assists, 5 blocks, 45% FG
G3 - 20 points, 41 rebounds, 9 assists, 5 blocks, 57% FG
G4 - 20 points, 22 rebounds, 10 assists, at least 3 blocks, 44% FG (bothered by severe pain in both knee joints (http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F00B15F63C5E137A93CAA9178FD85F43 8685F9))
G5 - 29 points, 36 rebounds, 13 assists, 7 blocks, 63% FG

Series averages: 21.6 ppg, 32.0 rpg, 10.0 apg, 6+ bpg, 56% FG



1967 NBA Finals vs. Warriors

G1 - 16 points, 33 rebounds, 10 assists, 75% FG
G2 - 10 points, 38 rebounds (26 in 1st half), 10 assists, 10 blocks, 40% FG
G3 - 26 points, 26 rebounds, 5 assists, 52% FG
G4 - 10 points, 27 rebounds, 8 assists, 11 blocks, 50% FG
G5 - 20 points, 24 rebounds, 4 assists, 60% FG
G6 - 24 points, 23 rebounds, 4 assists, 62% FG

Series averages: 17.6 ppg, 28.5 rpg, 6.8 apg, 56% FG

[ThaRegul8r]

So... is this just a compilation of... everyone's game logs? Or game logs of all-time greats, that is?

[ShaqAttack3234]

Here are some more.

David Robinson 1990 1st round
Game 1- 26 points, 13 rebounds, 11/20 FG, 4/6 FT
Game 2- 31 points, 12 rebounds, 11/16 FG, 9/14 FT
Game 3- 26 points, 16 rebounds, 10/18 FG, 6/7 FT

1987 WCF (Lakers vs Sonics)
Game 1
Magic- 19 points, 7 rebounds, 11 assists, 5/18 FG, 9/12 FT
Kareem- 20 points, 6/11 FG, 8/8 FT
Worthy- 27 points, 11/19 FG, 5/6 FT

Game 2
Magic- 20 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists, 6/12 FG, 8/10 FT
Worthy- 30 points, 12/19 FG, 6/7 FT
Kareem- 16 points, 7/13 FG, 2/2 FT

Game 3
Magic- 19 points, 7 rebounds, 11 assists, 6/12 FG, 7/7 FT
Worthy- 39 points, 16/25 FG, 7/9 FT
Kareem- 28 points, 10 rebounds, 9/14 FG, 10/10 FT

Game 4
Magic- 21 points, 5 rebounds, 12 assists, 6/9 FG, 9/10 FT
Worthy- 26 points, 8 rebounds, 10/19 FG, 6/8 FT
Kareem- 13 points, 6 rebounds, 4/7 FG, 5/6 FT (25 minutes)

[Fatal9]

Bird from '81-'87 (will fill in '82 and '88 later, I only have his shooting numbers from the '88 series against Pistons...not good).

1981

vs. Bulls

G1: 23/12/5 (9/20 – 5/5)
G2: 12/12/9 (5/13 – 2/2)
G3: 24/17/10/3 (9/17 – 6/7)
G4: 35/11/5/3 (13/22 – 8/8)

Avg: 23.5 ppg, 13 rpg, 7.3 apg on 50%

vs. Sixers

G1: 33/10/3 (14/29 – 5/5)
G2: 34/16/5 (14/21 – 6/7)
G3: 22/13/4 (8/16 – 6/7)
G4: 18/17/6 (7/19 – 4/5) foul trouble
G5: 32/11/5 (11/24 – 10/10)
G6: 25/16/4 (10/22 – 5/6)
G7: 23/11/5/5/2 (8/17 – 6/7)

Avg: 26.7 ppg, 13.4 rpg, 4.6 apg on 49%


1983

vs. Hawks:
G1: 26/15/3 (9/20 – 8/8)
G2: 15/16/9 (4/18 – 7/8)
G3: 26/9/9 (10/19 – 5/7)

vs. Bucks:

G1: 17/10/4 (7/17 – 3/4)
G2: DNP
G3: 21/14/6/6 (10/22 – 1/2)
G4: 18/11/8 (9/20)

Avg: 18.7 ppg, 11.7 rpg, 6 apg, 4 spg on 44%

Groin injury right before playoffs started. Dislocated finger on shooting hand at start of Bucks series, and also got hit by the flu.


1984

vs. Bullets:

G1: 23/?/12 (9/21 – 5/6)
G2: 23/12/6 (10/17 – 3/3)
G3: 27/?/6 (12/23 – 3/3)
G4: 17/?/7 (7/14 – 3/4)

22.5 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 7.8 apg on 51%

vs. Knicks:

G1: 23/9/12/3/2 (10/16 – 3/4) sprained ankle
G2: 37/11/?/4/2 (16/22 – 4/4)
G3: 24/11/? (11/21 – 2/4)
G4: 29/11/? (10/17 – 9/10) 15 pts in fourth. King – 43 pts on 17/25
G5: 26/9/10 (9/14 – 8/8)
G6 35/11/? (14/28 – 7/8) King - 44 pts on 16/25
G7: 39/12/10/3 (13/24 – 12/12)

Avg: 30.4 ppg, 10.6 rpg, 7.1 apg (50 assists) on 59%

vs. Bucks:

G1: 24/6/5/0 (6/14 – 12/15)
G2: 32/13/7/3 (9/17 – 14/14)
G3: 28/8/6/4 (10/18 – 8/8) 11 in fourth
G4: 32/10/8/3 (13/22) 17 pts in fourth
G5: 21/13/4/2 (8/21 – 4/5)

Avg: 27.4 ppg, 10 rpg, 6 apg, 2.4 spg on 50%

1985

vs. Cavs

G1: 40/7/2 (14/25 – 11/12)
G2: 30/11/7 (14/27 – 2/3)
G3: DNP – bursitis and bone chips in elbow
G4: 34/14/7 (11/17 – 12/14)

vs. Pistons:

G1: 21/?/? (9/21 – 3/4)
G2: 42/10/6 (14/26 – 14/15) 30 in second half.
G3: 25/13/8 (9/20 – 7/7)
G4: 21/7/7 (9/23 – 2/2)
G5: 43/13/5 (17/33 – 9/9) 17 in fourth.
G6: 17/?/? (7/22, 3/3)

vs. Sixers:

G1: 23/9/7/4 (10/18 – 3/3)
G2: 24/8/7/3blk (8/23 – 8/9)
G3: 26/7/5/4 (11/19 – 2/2)
G4: 14/?/? (4/15 – 6/6)
G5: 17/?/? (6/18 – 5/7)


1986

vs. Bulls

G1: 30/6/8 (9/13, 10/13 FT)
G2: 36/12/8 (14/27)
G3: 19/6/8 (5/13, 9/10 FT)

Avg: 28.3 ppg, 8 rpg, 8 apg on 53%

vs. Hawks

G1: 16/12/6 (8/17)
G2: 36/8/7/2 (15/23 – 6/7)
G3: 28/9/12 (12/19 – 2/2)
G4: 20/9/5 (5/19 – 10/10)
G5: 36/10/5 (14/24 – 7/7)

Avg: 27.2 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 6 apg on 53%

Vs. Bucks

G1: 26/6/5/1 (9/15 – 7/7)
G2: 26/8/9/3 (10/19 – 5/5)
G3: 19/16/13/1 (7/15 – 3/4)
G4: 30/8/5/2 (10/17 – 5/6 threes – 5/5)

Avg: 25.3 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 8 apg, 1.8 spg on 55%

1987

vs. Bulls

G1: 17/9/13 (4/7 – 7/7)
G2: 29/7/8 (9/17 – 11/13)
G3: 32/14/6 (11/21, 10/11)

Avg: 26 ppg, 10 rpg, 9 apg on 53%

vs. Bucks

G1: 40/11/7/4 (13/23)
G2: 30/10/5/1 (10/21 – 9/12)
G3: 18/8/8/2 (7/16 -4/4)
G4: 42/7/8/0 (13/23 – 13/15)
G5: 26/8/12/1 (8/22 – 10/11)
G6: 22/14/4/2 (9/20 – 4/6)
G7: 31/10/8/2 (9/21 – 13/13)

Avg: 30 ppg, 9.7 rpg, 7.4 apg on 47%

vs. Pistons:

G1: 18/16/11 (7/22)
G2: 31/9/12 (10/21)
G3: 17/10/6 (6/15)…ejected
G4: 16/7/4 (8/16)
G5: 36/12/9 (12/25 - 12/12)
G6: 35/9/2 (14/20)
G7: 37/9/9 (13/24 – 10/10)

Avg: 27.14 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 7.6 apg on 49%

[Miller for 3]

[QUOTE=Fatal9]Bird from '81-'87 (will fill in '82 and '88 later, I only have his shooting numbers from the '88 series against Pistons...not good).

1981

vs. Bulls

G1: 23/12/5 (9/20

[L8k3r5]

[QUOTE=ShaqAttack3234]Here are some that I have from 1990.

1990 ECSF Bulls vs 76ers

Jordan
Game 1- 39 points, 5 rebounds, 6 assists, 5 steals, 2 blocks, 16/30 FG, 2/4 3P, 5/6 FT
Game 2- 45 points, 8 rebounds, 7 assists, 3 steals, 18/36 FG, 1/3 3P, 8/8 FT
Game 3- 49 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 19/34 FG, 4/11 3P, 7/9 FT
Game 4- 45 points, 6 rebounds, 11 assists, 2 steals, 2 blocks, 16/31 FG 1/2 3P, 12/13 FT
Game 5- 37 points, 9 rebounds, 8 assists, 6 steals, 17/26 FG ,1/3 3P, 2/4 FT,

Those are great numbers of consistency :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[SuperPippen]

[QUOTE=ShaqAttack3234]Here are some that I have from 1990.

1990 ECSF Bulls vs 76ers

Jordan
Game 1- 39 points, 5 rebounds, 6 assists, 5 steals, 2 blocks, 16/30 FG, 2/4 3P, 5/6 FT
Game 2- 45 points, 8 rebounds, 7 assists, 3 steals, 18/36 FG, 1/3 3P, 8/8 FT
Game 3- 49 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 19/34 FG, 4/11 3P, 7/9 FT
Game 4- 45 points, 6 rebounds, 11 assists, 2 steals, 2 blocks, 16/31 FG 1/2 3P, 12/13 FT
Game 5- 37 points, 9 rebounds, 8 assists, 6 steals, 17/26 FG ,1/3 3P, 2/4 FT,

Those are great numbers of consistency :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Yep. Jordan was, along with Jerry West, the game's greatest post season scorer. It's a shame that there's so much footage available of Jordan throughout his career, while there's so little footage available of greats like West.

[magnax1]

Anyone have Isiah Thomas's series vs the 85 and 87 Celtics? 85 Especially?

[jlauber]

[QUOTE=L8k3r5]

Yep. Jordan was, along with Jerry West, the game's greatest post season scorer. It's a shame that there's so much footage available of Jordan throughout his career, while there's so little footage available of greats like West.

I don't have the game logs, but West averaged 46.3 ppg against the Bullets in the '65 playoffs. In that five game series, he had games of 49, 52, 44, 48, and 42 points.

[SuperPippen]

[QUOTE=SuperPippen]

I don't have the game logs, but West averaged 46.3 ppg against the Bullets in the '65 playoffs. In that five game series, he had games of 49, 52, 44, 48, and 42 points.

:bowdown:

Unreal. Not even Wilt at his apex had averages like West's in the playoffs, which is especially impressive when you consider the fact that West was a 6'3'' guard, while Wilt was a 7'1'' center.

I feel that players like West are slowly becoming more underrated and under-appreciated by the general basketball-discussing public.

[magnax1]

45 ppg in the playoffs is insane no matter the year. It seems that playoffs numbers in the 60s generally tapered off and end up being much closer to the normal post 80's NBA individual averages, excluding rebounds.

[jlauber]

[QUOTE=jlauber]

:bowdown:

Unreal. Not even Wilt at his apex had averages like West's in the playoffs, which is especially impressive when you consider the fact that West was a 6'3'' guard, while Wilt was a 7'1'' center.

I feel that players like West are slowly becoming more underrated and under-appreciated by the general basketball-discussing public.

Yeah...West averaged 40.6 ppg in the playoffs that season. And, of course, he averaged 38 ppg in the '69 Finals, including a 42 point, 13 rebound (yes, 13 rebounds), 12 assist game seven....which ultimately led to him winning the Finals MVP as the only "loser" in the history of that award.

[jlauber]

45 ppg in the playoffs is insane no matter the year. It seems that playoffs numbers in the 60s generally tapered off and end up being much closer to the normal post 80's NBA individual averages, excluding rebounds.

By the 1968-69 season, scoring was down to 112.3 ppg. And, in Chamberlain's last season, it was down to 107.6 ppg. In the '73 Finals, the Knicks outscored the Lakers, per game, 101 to 97 ppg.

[magnax1]

By the 1968-69 season, scoring was down to 112.3 ppg. And, in Chamberlain's last season, it was down to 107.6 ppg. In the '73 Finals, the Knicks outscored the Lakers, per game, 101 to 97 ppg.
That's still a lot considering the league average today is 99.6, and the highest is only 107.5
But like I said, the playoffs were a lot closer.

[jlauber]

That's still a lot considering the league average today is 99.6, and the highest is only 107.5
But like I said, the playoffs were a lot closer.

By the 74-75 season, the NBA was down to 102.6 ppg. Which is why I consider McAdoo's season as one of the greatest ever. He averaged 34.5 ppg , on .512 shooting, with 14.1 rpg. And then, in seven post-season games, he averaged 37.4 ppg, .481, and 13.4 rpg. BTW, his three year run from the 73-74 season thru the 75-76 season was among the best ever, even including the playoffs.

[PHILA]

1966 EDF vs. Celtics
..

To update this, Sports Illustrated mentioned that he scored 15 points on 14 shots in G4, while Basketball-Reference has him at 110 FGA for the series.


G1 - 25 points, 32 rebounds, 9/17 FG
G2 - 23 points, 25 rebounds, 9/23 FG
G3 - 31 points, 27 rebounds, 12/22 FG
G4 - 15 points, 33 rebounds, 7/14 FG
G5 - 46 points, 34 rebounds, 19/34 FG

[jlip]

Magic Johnson- 1982 WCSF vs Suns

G1-23/10/10
G2-19/12/12/5 stls
G3-23/13-14?/7-8?*
G4-15/12/11

*G3- Several articles confirmed that Magic had 23 points in game 3, but none of them mentioned his rebound and assist totals for that game. This article (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=f8YhAAAAIBAJ&sjid=x50FAAAAIBAJ&pg=3345,245323&dq=magic+johnson+suns&hl=en)mentioned that he was averaging 22/12/10 through the first 3 games. The question marks stem from my calculations and being uncertain as to whether they were rounding up or being exact.

Another interesting fact was that several articles such as this one (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=4f4sAAAAIBAJ&sjid=7swFAAAAIBAJ&pg=2719,2591267&dq=magic+johnson+suns&hl=en), stated that Magic had three games where he "reached double figures in three categories this series." I guess the term "triple double" had not gained currency just yet. This article (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=kG9IAAAAIBAJ&sjid=HFoDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6795,3791246&dq=magic+johnson+spurs&hl=en) from that very year does use the term but has it in quotation marks as if it was a new phrase.

I'm still working on the WCF vs the Spurs but am tired. I will come back and fill in the rest later.

G1-13/16/14
G2-19/11/9/5stls
G3-10/10/10
G4-


1982 NBA Finals vs Sixers Box Scores (http://webuns.chez-alice.fr/finals/1982.htm)
Game 6 is one of my all time favorites. Magic took a total of 3 shots the entire game and was yet easily the best player on the floor. He ended with a stat line of 13/13/15. I think this game prompted Dr. J to say that "He is the only player who can take three shots and still dominate a game." http://espn.go.com/sportscentury/features/00016111.html


Entire 1982 Playoffs- 17.4/11.3/9.3

[jlauber]

Magic Johnson- 1982 WCSF vs Suns

G1-23/10/10
G2-19/12/12/5 stls
G3-23/13-14?/7-8?*
G4-15/12/11

*G3- Several articles confirmed that Magic had 23 points in game 3, but none of them mentioned his rebound and assist totals for that game. This article (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=f8YhAAAAIBAJ&sjid=x50FAAAAIBAJ&pg=3345,245323&dq=magic+johnson+suns&hl=en)mentioned that he was averaging 22/12/10 through the first 3 games. The question marks stem from my calculations and being uncertain as to whether they were rounding up or being exact.

Another interesting fact was that several articles such as this one (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=4f4sAAAAIBAJ&sjid=7swFAAAAIBAJ&pg=2719,2591267&dq=magic+johnson+suns&hl=en), stated that Magic had three games where he "reached double figures in three categories this series." I guess the term "triple double" had not gained currency just yet. This article (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=kG9IAAAAIBAJ&sjid=HFoDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6795,3791246&dq=magic+johnson+spurs&hl=en) from that very year does use the term but has it in quotation marks as if it was a new phrase.

I'm still working on the WCF vs the Spurs but am tired. I will come back and fill in the rest later.

G1-13/16/14
G2-19/11/9/5stls
G3-10/10/10
G4-


1982 NBA Finals vs Sixers Box Scores (http://webuns.chez-alice.fr/finals/1982.htm)

Entire 1982 Playoffs- 17.4/11.3/9.3

Excellent post...among the many here.

:applause:

[PTB Fan]

..

To update this, Sports Illustrated mentioned that he scored 15 points on 14 shots in G4, while Basketball-Reference has him at 110 FGA for the series.


G1 - 25 points, 32 rebounds, 9/17 FG
G2 - 23 points, 25 rebounds, 9/23 FG
G3 - 31 points, 27 rebounds, 12/22 FG
G4 - 15 points, 33 rebounds, 7/14 FG
G5 - 46 points, 34 rebounds, 19/34 FG

What are Wilt's stats overall?

[PTB Fan]

I have other good stats as well

Bird '86

Game 1:21 points, 8 boards, 13 assists, 8-18 FG, 5-6 FT


2.Game 2:31 points, 8 boards, 7 assists, 12-19 FG, 4-4 FT


3.Game 3:25 points, 15 boards, 11 assists, 10-26 FG. 5-5 FT


4.Game 4:21 points, 9 boards, 10 assists, 9-17 FG, 2-2 FT


5.Game 5:17 points, 7 boards, 4 assists, 6-13 FG, 4-4 FT


6.Game 6:29 points, 11 rebounds, 12 assists, 8-17 FG, 11-12 FT


Series Averages:24.0 points, 9.7 boards, 9.5 assists, 48.2% FG, 35% 3 pt FG, 82.1% FT

[PHILA]

What are Wilt's stats overall?

28.0 ppg, 30.2 rpg, 3.0 apg, 51% FG, 41% FT, 48.0 mpg

[PTB Fan]

28.0 ppg, 30.2 rpg, 3.0 apg, 51% FG, 41% FT, 48.0 mpg

Amazing as always! :applause:

[ShaqAttack3234]

Some more '87 Lakers stats.

1987 WCSF vs Golden State

Game 1
Magic Johnson- 25 points, 12 rebounds, 14 assists, 8/16 FG, 9/10 FT
James Worthy- 28 points, 10/16 FG, 8/10 FT
Kareem Abdul Jabbar- 15 points, 7/11 FG, 1/1 FT

Game 2
Magic Johnson- 23 points, 8 rebounds, 8 assists
Kareem Abdul Jabbar- 25 points
James Worthy- 20 points

Game 3
Magic Johnson- 20 points, 10 rebounds, 14 assists, 7/15 FG, 6/9 FT
James Worthy- 28 points, 12/19 FG, 4/5 FT
Kareem Abdul Jabbar- 8 points, 3/8 FG, 2/2 FT

Game 4
Kareem Abdul Jabbar- 27 points, 8/14 FG, 11/15 FT
Magic Johnson- 16 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 5/11 FG, 6/6 FT
James Worthy- 11 points, 5/12 FG, 1/2 FT

Game 5
Magic Johnson- 19 points, 13 assists, 8/11 FG, 3/3 FT
James Worthy- 23 points, 9/11 FG, 5/8 FT
Kareem Abdul Jabbar- 13 points, 9 rebounds, 4/8 FG, 5/6 FT

[Hondo]

45 ppg in the playoffs is insane no matter the year. It seems that playoffs numbers in the 60s generally tapered off and end up being much closer to the normal post 80's NBA individual averages, excluding rebounds.

Bernard King (NYK) vs Detroit - 1st Round Playoffs 1984
Game 1 - 36 points (W)
Game 2 - 46 points (L)*
Game 3 - 46 points (W)
Game 4 - 41 points (L)
Game 5 - 44 points (W)

42.6 ppg on 60% FG.

*King played with dislocated fingers with splints on both hands, strained ligaments in left knee, leg cramps and had a terrible flu from Game 3 onwards. Also scored 23 consecutive points in the game, breaking Wilt's record.


http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kocm0r2mWN1qzveiso1_500.jpg

[Duncan21formvp]

[QUOTE=jlauber]

:bowdown:

Unreal. Not even Wilt at his apex had averages like West's in the playoffs, which is especially impressive when you consider the fact that West was a 6'3'' guard, while Wilt was a 7'1'' center.

I feel that players like West are slowly becoming more underrated and under-appreciated by the general basketball-discussing public.
What's amazing is that Baylor and West have more 40+ and 30+ point games in the playoffs than Wilt despite playing in less playoff games than him.

[oolalaa]

To all those who posted stats...

:bowdown:

:applause:

:cheers:

:rockon:

[NugzHeat3]

Hakeem ('86-'90)...some info missing but too lazy to check up on it again:

........................
Found a few you were missing.

vs. Lakers 1986
G1: 28/16 + 4 blks (10/14, 8/13)
G2: 22/13 + 6 blks (8/20, 6/7)
G3: 40/12 + 2 blks (14/28, 12/15)
G4: 35/8 + 4 blks (11/23, 13/20)
G5: 30/7 + 4 blks (10/17, 10/15)

vs Lakers 1990
G1: 13/14 (5/13, 3-4)
G2: 11/11 + 10 blks (4/15, 3/3)
G3: 22/7 (10/17, 2/2)
G4: 28/14 (12/25, 4/8)

Kevin Johnson 1989 vs LAL

G1: 27/18 (10/18, 6/6)
G2: 22/10 (10 turnovers, 6/12, 10/10)
G3: 22/15 (9/17, 4/4)
G4: 22/10 (7/14, 1/1, 7/7)

Kevin Johnson 1990 vs LAL

G1: 9/12 (3/7, 3/6)
G2: 12/12 (4/12, 4/6)
G3: 22/7/8 (8/19, 6/7)
G4: 30/16 (8/18, 14/14)
G5: 37/8 (14/23, 9/10) (14 in the 4th quarter)

Magic Johnson 1989 vs PHX

G1: 18/12 (6/13, 6/7)
G2: 22/9/14 (9/17, 3/3)
G3: 20/11 (8/17. 3/3)
G4: 21/20 (6/11, 8/8)

Magic Johnson 1990 vs PHX

G1: 22/14 (4/14, 14/15)
G2: 21/14 (8/14, 4/5)
G3: 22/16 (7/18, 8/8)
G4: 43/10 (15/26, 12/12)
G5: 43/8/7 (15/26, 13/16)

Format is either pts/asts or pts/rebs/asts.

[pauk]

Hakeem kicked ass in the playoffs. He turns into Super Hakeem.

yep!

he had the most epic playoff run ever in 1988... averaging 38 ppg, 17 rpg, 4 apg, 4 blocks a game, 2 steals a game on 61% FG:

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/7193/perplayoffs.jpg

and is the 5th most productive ever in the playoffs:

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/6467/careerplayoffper.jpg

[NugzHeat3]

Anyone have Isiah Thomas's series vs the 85 and 87 Celtics? 85 Especially?
1985 vs Boston

G1: 23/8 (9/22, 4/6)
G2: 28/15 (11/20, 6/7)
G3: 26/16 (9/18, 7/10)
G4: 21/3 (8/14, 2 threes, 3/4). Those 3 assists are probably an error because its highly unlikely the leading assistman for Detroit only had 3 assists when they had 23 in total.
G5: 18/7 (8/16, 2/3)
G6: 37/9 (12/28, 13/17)

[NugzHeat3]

yep!

he had the most epic playoff run ever in 1988... averaging 38 ppg, 17 rpg, 4 apg, 4 blocks a game, 2 steals a game on 61% FG:

:facepalm

[pauk]

:facepalm

well............... it says there... :confusedshrug:

but that playoff run was only 4 games... so the value/context is not that high...

[oolalaa]

well............... it says there... :confusedshrug:

but that playoff run was only 4 games... so the value/context is not that high...

So therefore, it can't be considered a run...

[millwad]

[QUOTE=SuperPippen]
What's amazing is that Baylor and West have more 40+ and 30+ point games in the playoffs than Wilt despite playing in less playoff games than him.

Well, Wilt was more about scoring the regular season.. After all, he dropped his scoring average with almost 8 points when the playoffs came around on worse FG%. Both Baylor and West averaged more than 5 points more per game in the playoffs compared to Wilt.

Looking at Jerry West's playoffs stats though, it gives you some what of a video game experience!:bowdown:

[jlauber]

[QUOTE=Duncan21formvp]

Well, Wilt was more about scoring the regular season.. After all, he dropped his scoring average with almost 8 points when the playoffs came around on worse FG%. Both Baylor and West averaged more than 5 points more per game in the playoffs compared to Wilt.

Looking at Jerry West's playoffs stats though, it gives you some what of a video game experience!:bowdown:

Of course, we could also look at the CONTEXT here too. In Wilt's first seven seasons, all he did was average 40 ppg...COMBINED. And, in the post-season, covering that same span, all he did was average 33 ppg. AND, that does not include his 62-63 season, when he had the worst roster in NBA history, and averaged 44.8 ppg on .528 shooting. So he missed a post-season in his second highest scoring season.

And Wilt's FG% in that span was LIGHT YEARS ahead of both Baylor and West, as well. In fact, Wilt shot about .510 in those six post-seasons, combined, and in leagues that shot between .410 to .441. Here again, he was averaging about 80 points over the league average. For his post-season career, Chamberlain shot .522, in league's that ranged from .410 to .456, or about .440 on average. Here again, a solid 80 points over the league average. Only Shaq can match that among the greats. To put that in perspective, Hakeem shot .528 in his post-season career, in leagues that ranged from .437 to .492, and about .470 on average. His FG% in relation to the league average was considerably behind Wilt's.

West is arguably the second greatest post-season scorer in NBA history. And unlike Baylor, he was a very good shooter. Still, his career playoff FG% was .469, which, again, was WAY behind Wilt's. And, in his 153 playoff games, he took 3460 shots, or 23 FGAs per game. And while West had three post-seasons of .500+, Chamberlain had NINE. West best post-season was .527, while Wilt had EIGHT better than that, with a high of .579. West also had post-season of .376 (which included a .325 Finals.)

As for Baylor, his career post-season FG% was .439. He also had post-seasons of .403, .385 (with Wilt BTW), .378, and even .368. His HIGH post-season was .474, while Wilt only had three post-seasons LOWER than that (his career low was .455...in a season following major knee surgery.) He averaged 24 FGAs in his post-season career, while Chamberlain averaged 17. In fact, Baylor, in his 134 playoff games, took 3161 shots, making 1388. Wilt, in his 160 playoff games, took 2728 shots, and made 1425.

As for West and Baylor having more 30 and 40 point games in the post-season, ... Wilt also had FOUR playoff games of 50+, which is one more than West and Baylor had COMBINED. BTW, Wilt had one 50 point playoff game in which he shot 22-32, or .688. West's best 50 point playoff game was 21-41, and he shot 16-38 in his other one. Baylor's 61 point game came on 22-46 shooting. Chamberlain also had a 50-35 playoff game against Russell, in which he shot 22-42.

Both West and Baylor had some HUGE post-seasons in terms of scoring. In fact, Baylor had a Finals of 40.6 ppg, while West had a Finals of 38.3 ppg and a playoff series of 46.3 ppg, which is the all-time post-season record. Still, Wilt had FOUR post-seasons of 33.2 ppg, 34.7 ppg, 35.0 ppg, and 37.0 ppg. He also had a seven game series of 38.6 ppg, along with 23.0 rpg, and on .559 shooting, against Zelmo Beaty, who was a career five-time NBA all-star. And Wilt had FOUR post-season series, just against Russell, in which he averaged 30+ ppg, including one in which he averaged 30 ppg and 31 rpg (and in a seven game series.) BTW, Wilt also had FOUR 40-30 games against Russell in the post-season (and 17 against him in their 142 H2H games...including a 44-43 game.)

You can't argue with West or Baylor's Finals scoring, but Chamberlain had one Finals game of 45 points, on 20-27 shooting, with 27 rebounds. He also had a 29-27 .517 Finals against Russell. And neither West, nor Baylor, could approach the efficiency that Wilt had in his Finals. Chamberlain shot .560 in his six Finals, including a 23.2 ppg, 24.1 rpg, and .625 Finals (and in a seven game series.) BTW, how about Hakeem in his three Finals? He had one of an even .500, and the other two were .483 and .478. Overall, Hakeem shot .488 in his 17 Finals games, while Wilt shot .560 in his 35. And once again, Wilt's efficency came in leagues that shot FAR worse than in Hakeem's.

Of course, Wilt also faced a starting HOF center in 99 of his 160 post-season games. To put that in perspective, Hakeem only faced 32 in his 145. Not only that, but think about these amazing numbers...

Wilt had FOUR post-seasons of at least 30-23. His HIGHs were 37 ppg, and 30.1 rpg, too. He had SIX of at least 28-23. He had EIGHT of 20-20. In fact, in his first eight straight post-seasons, Wilt averaged 29.3 ppg, 26.6 rpg, 4.8 apg (yes, 4.8 apg), and shot .518 (in leagues that shot between .410 to .446...and about .430 overall.) Once again, think about that... he averaged a 29-27 in his first eight complete post-seasons...COMBINED. How many other players in NBA post-season history had even ONE post-season of 29-27? I'll save you the trouble...ZERO! In fact, you would be hard-pressed to find very many 29-27 single GAMES by anyone else not named Wilt (BTW, Russell had several.) And you won't find anyone else in post-season history that had a 40 point, 30 rebound game. Chamberlain had SIX...including TWO of 50-30 (56-35 and 50-35.)

Then, there was his rebounding...which he dramatically ELEVATED in post-season play. Wilt was, BY FAR, the game's greatest post-season rebounder. And before some idiot claims that Russell had a 24.9 rpg to 24.5 rpg edge, ... Russell and Wilt battled in EIGHT H2H post-season series...and Wilt outrebounded him in EVERY one. Secondly, in some of them, Chamberlain DESTROYED Russell. He had one series margin of 31-26, and another at an astonishing differential of 32-23. Finally, when Russell retired in 1969, and with his 24.9 rpg post-season average, Wilt was at 26.3 rpg at the same time.

Of course, Wilt outrebounded EVERONE in the post-season. He played in 29 post-season series, and was NEVER outrebounded in ANY of them. And he CRUSHED his opposing centers in rebounding, too. In his LAST post-season, he brutalized Nate Thurmond by a 24-17 margin. He murdered 7-0 260 Tom Boerwinkle, who had a higher "rebound rate" in that same post-season, 24.6 to 2.3 rpg (yes, you read that right.) In fact, you would be hard-presses to find very many single GAMES in his 160 post-season games, in which anyone outrebounded him.

Oh, and how about his DEFENSE? Here are just a few known examples: Red Kerr shot .392 in his '60 regular season and .443 in his '62 regular season. Chamberlain held him to .296 and .376 in those their two post-season H2H's. BTW, I don't know what Kerr shot against Wilt in their '61 post-season series, but he shot .341 against both Wilt and Russell. Russell shot .454 during the '67 regular season...in the ECF"s and against Wilt... .358. Thurmond shot .437 in that '67 regular season. In the Finals against Wilt? .343 (yes, .343.) Chamberlain also faced Thurmond in the '69 and '73 playoffs, and held him to .398 and .392 shooting. (BTW, Wilt shot .560, .500, and .550 against Thurmond in those three series...and virtually no one else EVER shot even 50% against Thurmond.) Walt Bellamy shot .541 in the '68 regular season. Against Wilt in the playoffs? .421. Kareem shot .577 in the '71 regular season, but only .481 against Wilt in the WCF's. Then, in the very next season, Kareem shot .574, but could only shoot .457 against Wilt in the WCF's...including an awful .414 over the last four games of that series.

So, hopefully that will give the uneducated, like Dickwad, a little better perspective on Wilt's "drop" in his post-season play.

[Fatal9]

^ hey *******, no one cares, can you stop ruining the thread with your copy paste garbage.

[millwad]

Of course, we could also look at the CONTEXT here too. In Wilt's first seven seasons, all he did was average 40 ppg...COMBINED. And, in the post-season, covering that same span, all he did was average 33 ppg. AND, that does not include his 62-63 season, when he had the worst roster in NBA history, and averaged 44.8 ppg on .528 shooting. So he missed a post-season in his second highest scoring season.

I talked about his average, not his first first 7 seasons and good job, you just removed one of his two titles. And why are you so butthurt, do you really have to write an essay everytime someone mentions Wilt? I put up a true fact, I don't care about your excuses. It's a fact that Baylor and West scored more in the playoffs, deal with it.

I'm not gonna reply every crappy comment you just wrote because this thread doesn't deserve to get ruined by your trash. Take your copy and paste job some where else and we all have access to basketball-reference and google (your "knowledge").

[pauk]

So therefore, it can't be considered a run...

so therefore.... the #2 on that list... Lebron James.. who had a legit playoff run in 2009...

had...


the greatest Playoff run of all time? :banana:

[NugzHeat3]

1983 playoffs Jabbar and Magic gamelogs vs POR and SAS.

Kareem vs Portland

G1: 32/6 +6 blks (11/15, 10/11)
G2: 37 + 7 asts (15/20, 7/8)
G3: 30 + 4 blks (11/24, 8/13) 9 pts in OT.
G4: 34/9 (13/19, 8/11)
G5: 21/11 (9/17, 3/4). 13 in the first as LA built a 34-11 lead

Kareem vs San Antonio

G1: 30/8 + 3 blks (13/25, 4/7). It was noted he badly outplayed Gilmore who ended up fouling out.
G2: 19 (9/16, 1/2). Gilmore probably won the match up in this one. He had 27 points and 20 boards.
G3: 25 (11/20, 3/4). Artis had 17/14 on 6-13 shooting.
G4: 26/6 (10/19, 6/6). Gilmore had 19/9 on 9/15
G5: 30/7 (12/19, 6/9). Gilmore had 25/14 on 11/18 FG. Turning point of the game is Kareem drawing his 4th foul in the 3rd and Spurs going on a run.
G6: 28/10 + 4 blks (12/26, 4/5) Gilmore had 24/18 on 11/16 FG.

Magic vs Portland

G1: 19/9/18 (8/15, 3/3)
G2: 18 (7/12, 4/5)
G3: 15/1 (6/12, 3/4)
G4: 10/8 (5/14, 0/0)
G5: 25/15 (9/14, 7/7)

Magic vs San Antonio

G1: 15/12 (6/10, 3/3)
G2: 28 + 12 rebs (12/23, 4/7)
G3: 13/11/13 + 3 blks (5/12, 3/3). Wicked line.
G4: 31/8/17 (9/14, 13/15). :applause: for Gervin's defense.
G5: 16/11/19 (7/12, 2/2).
G6: 2/15/16 (1/6, 0/4). Gets a block on Mike Mitchell on the Spurs last possession. Mitchell recovers and misses. Gilmore could've got a good angle at the tip-in though if he had timed his jump a little later but buzzer was going off so can't really blame him.

I was actually just watching game 6. Good match up. Artis seems like a monster on the boards, he was being physical and just outworking Kareem. Of course, the leaping ability helps and he seems well built and pretty strong. Doesn't let Kareem get really deep position and contests the skyhook well. Gilmore's rebounding was actually a big reason for the Spurs two wins because he was able to outlet right away and they were able to up the tempo.

He seems kind of awkward in the post though. He scored on Kareem with the left handed hook a few times but Lakers double teaming bothered him a bit. He's probably the efficient type in terms of his role but doesn't quite create well individually. Gervin's a pretty crafty guy, uses the glass well at tough angles and can create space using shot fakes and foot fakes.

Magic's playmaking and floor leading skills are there but he looks out of control a couple of times. Nixon seems liked a good floor general. Good entry passer, found guys in the paint and made smart passes. Johnny Moor also seems legit. He had a nice change of direction crossover move on Cooper at the end of the 3rd. Set Banks up well but he couldn't finish.

The spacing from every early-mid 80s games I see is terrible. Hurts the post players. Stockton/Russell is a good commentary duo.

[ShaqAttack3234]

I was actually just watching game 6. Good match up. Artis seems like a monster on the boards, he was being physical and just outworking Kareem. Of course, the leaping ability helps and he seems well built and pretty strong. Doesn't let Kareem get really deep position and contests the skyhook well. Gilmore's rebounding was actually a big reason for the Spurs two wins because he was able to outlet right away and they were able to up the tempo.

He seems kind of awkward in the post though. He scored on Kareem with the left handed hook a few times but Lakers double teaming bothered him a bit. He's probably the efficient type in terms of his role but doesn't quite create well individually. Gervin's a pretty crafty guy, uses the glass well at tough angles and can create space using shot fakes and foot fakes.

Magic's playmaking and floor leading skills are there but he looks out of control a couple of times. Nixon seems liked a good floor general. Good entry passer, found guys in the paint and made smart passes. Johnny Moor also seems legit. He had a nice change of direction crossover move on Cooper at the end of the 3rd. Set Banks up well but he couldn't finish.

The spacing from every early-mid 80s games I see is terrible. Hurts the post players. Stockton/Russell is a good commentary duo.

Yeah, the Gilmore/Kareem match ups were always good. Uploaded a regular season game from '82 a while ago, and I don't see the '79-'80 game up on youtube so I'll upload that soon.

I agree about the spacing, it can make games from that period pretty tough to watch.

Agreed on Nixon as well, always thought he was overlooked. Good pull up jumper. Magic's playmaking was there pretty much from the start and he did a good job of boxing out and getting offensive rebounds even as a young player, but I much prefer the '87-'91 version. Just so much more polished with the post game and he really didn't start developing his mid-range/outside shot until the mid 80's which also made him so much more of a threat.

[NugzHeat3]

Yeah, the Gilmore/Kareem match ups were always good. Uploaded a regular season game from '82 a while ago, and I don't see the '79-'80 game up on youtube so I'll upload that soon.

I agree about the spacing, it can make games from that period pretty tough to watch.

Agreed on Nixon as well, always thought he was overlooked. Good pull up jumper. Magic's playmaking was there pretty much from the start and he did a good job of boxing out and getting offensive rebounds even as a young player, but I much prefer the '87-'91 version. Just so much more polished with the post game and he really didn't start developing his mid-range/outside shot until the mid 80's which also made him so much more of a threat.
Agreed on all counts.

I find Magic's later years to be underrated. He even expanded his range up to 3, he was about as good as he ever was. Maybe a little better in 1987 but its hardly a noticeable difference. Dunleavy had him playing in the post more and they really slowed the game down so that probably affected his stats.

[ShaqAttack3234]

Agreed on all counts.

I find Magic's later years to be underrated. He even expanded his range up to 3, he was about as good as he ever was. Maybe a little better in 1987 but its hardly a noticeable difference. Dunleavy had him playing in the post more and they really slowed the game down so that probably affected his stats.

Yeah, Magic was at his best from '87-'91. I'd agree that '87 was his peak, and what made the Lakers so great that year was that they had the transition game, but 3 players who would regularly get doubled in the post(Kareem, Magic and Worthy), could all pass, or put up 20+. Magic's passing out of double teams in the post was a huge part of the Lakers offense.

After '87, you could pretty much pick any year from '88-'91 as his second best. I like '90 a lot because of how well he was shooting 3s. No doubt in my mind that he was better those 5 seasons than any year before the '86-'87 season.

[NugzHeat3]

Yeah, Magic was at his best from '87-'91. I'd agree that '87 was his peak, and what made the Lakers so great that year was that they had the transition game, but 3 players who would regularly get doubled in the post(Kareem, Magic and Worthy), could all pass, or put up 20+. Magic's passing out of double teams in the post was a huge part of the Lakers offense.

After '87, you could pretty much pick any year from '88-'91 as his second best. I like '90 a lot because of how well he was shooting 3s. No doubt in my mind that he was better those 5 seasons than any year before the '86-'87 season.
I'd probably agree with 1990. I want to see those last two games against PHX where he had 40 each.

I'm guessing PHX plays him straight up with Majerle and he burns them. Dan had size and good physical defense too. I feel Magic's scoring gets underrated. He had a great instinct for knowing what the Lakers needed.

There was a game posted (its still probably on the main page) against the Rockets from the 1991 playoffs and Doug Collins notes how Magic could perfectly adjust to how they were playing him. Great feel for the game.

[ShaqAttack3234]

I'd probably agree with 1990. I want to see those last two games against PHX where he had 40 each.

I'm guessing PHX plays him straight up with Majerle and he burns them. Dan had size and good physical defense too. I feel Magic's scoring gets underrated. He had a great instinct for knowing what the Lakers needed.

There was a game posted (its still probably on the main page) against the Rockets from the 1991 playoffs and Doug Collins notes how Magic could perfectly adjust to how they were playing him. Great feel for the game.

Those games are up on youtube. Magic was a very good scorer in the late 80's/early 90's and you're right about him adjusting. He was really good at getting his points in the flow of the offense.

Young Magic had to rely too much on transition opportunities for his scoring for me to consider the early 80's version of him comparable to the late 80's/early 90's, imo. He'd get offensive rebounds as well, but without the outside shot and post game, he didn't seem as capable of being the go to guy in the half court. He may have been capable a little earlier than he actually used those skills, which happened more when Kareem's role diminished, but judging by the early 80's games I've seen, his outside shot was virtually non-existent and when he posted up, he really didn't have moves yet and seemed raw down there.

I think that people who haven't seen these games and analyzed them don't realize how much Magic worked on his game and improved. He was a very good player entering the league, but by the late 80's/early 90's, he could completely control a game offensively. Whether it was with scoring or playmaking in half court or transition.

[NugzHeat3]

POR vs PHX 1990 WCF

Clyde Drexler

G1: 20 + 10 boards (10/18, 0/0). Kevin Duckworth GW. Danny Young with the last second block to seal the W.
G2: 20 + 6 asts (8/21, 0/1, 4/5). Kersey had 29/11.
G3: 11 + 6 asts (5/14, 1/3)
G4: 15 (6/13, 2/4). Kersey had 29 on 14/20. Safe to say he was guarded by Chambers.
G5: 32 + 10 boards (13/24, 1/2, 5/7)
G6: 23/7 (6/20, 0/3, 11/15)

Terry Porter

G1: 14/9 (6/14, 2/4 0/0)
G2: 28 (8/17, 4/7, 8/9). 23 in the 2nd. Driving jumper to win the game, a three to tie it at 106 apiece. Eddie Johnson misses GW, pretty badly.
G3: 6 (2/8, 1/3, 1/2)
G4: 21/12 (7/14, 6/9)
G5: 19/12 (7/14, 3/6, 2/2)
G6: 23/7 (8/13, 4/7, 3/3)

Kevin Johnson

G1: 20/11 (8/20, 4/4)
G2: 22/8 (7/18, 8/9). Misses a crucial FT late in the game. Chambers had 28 on 8/16, 12/13 as well as 14 boards.
G3: 17/12 (6/7, 5/5). Chambers had 24 on 11/13.
G4: 28/17 (13/19, 2/6). Chambers 10/17 for 27.
G5: 28/14 (11/21, 1/3, 5/5). Around 35 seconds remaining with PHX trailing by 1, Majerle drives but comes up short on a left handed lay up with the lane being packed.
G6: 16/6 (4/6, 8/9). Pulled hamstring in the first half, didn't play the second. Hornacek played amazing in his absence. 36 points on 11/22, 14/14 and 6 assists. Buck Williams made a key steal on Chambers in post with Blazers up 110-109 with 8 sec left. Before that, Kersey scored on the break and blocked Hornacek's runner which actually ignited the break.

This series could've easily gone the Suns way. The Blazers made all the clutch plays and got a break with the KJ injury in game 6. Would've been fun to see a Suns-Pistons finals. Two contrasting styles.

[ShaqAttack3234]

POR vs PHX 1990 WCF

Clyde Drexler

G1: 20 + 10 boards (10/18, 0/0). Kevin Duckworth GW. Danny Young with the last second block to seal the W.
G2: 20 + 6 asts (8/21, 0/1, 4/5). Kersey had 29/11.
G3: 11 + 6 asts (5/14, 1/3)
G4: 15 (6/13, 2/4). Kersey had 29 on 14/20. Safe to say he was guarded by Chambers.
G5: 32 + 10 boards (13/24, 1/2, 5/7)
G6: 23/7 (6/20, 0/3, 11/15)

Terry Porter

G1: 14/9 (6/14, 2/4 0/0)
G2: 28 (8/17, 4/7, 8/9). 23 in the 2nd. Driving jumper to win the game, a three to tie it at 106 apiece. Eddie Johnson misses GW, pretty badly.
G3: 6 (2/8, 1/3, 1/2)
G4: 21/12 (7/14, 6/9)
G5: 19/12 (7/14, 3/6, 2/2)
G6: 23/7 (8/13, 4/7, 3/3)

Kevin Johnson

G1: 20/11 (8/20, 4/4)
G2: 22/8 (7/18, 8/9). Misses a crucial FT late in the game. Chambers had 28 on 8/16, 12/13 as well as 14 boards.
G3: 17/12 (6/7, 5/5). Chambers had 24 on 11/13.
G4: 28/17 (13/19, 2/6). Chambers 10/17 for 27.
G5: 28/14 (11/21, 1/3, 5/5). Around 35 seconds remaining with PHX trailing by 1, Majerle drives but comes up short on a left handed lay up with the lane being packed.
G6: 16/6 (4/6, 8/9). Pulled hamstring in the first half, didn't play the second. Hornacek played amazing in his absence. 36 points on 11/22, 14/14 and 6 assists. Buck Williams made a key steal on Chambers in post with Blazers up 110-109 with 8 sec left. Before that, Kersey scored on the break and blocked Hornacek's runner which actually ignited the break.

This series could've easily gone the Suns way. The Blazers made all the clutch plays and got a break with the KJ injury in game 6. Would've been fun to see a Suns-Pistons finals. Two contrasting styles.

KJ was the second best PG that year behind Magic, imo. Including games where KJ only played 3 minutes and 6 minutes, Phoenix was 4-6 without him while their offensive rating was just 103.6 without him(league average was 108.1 and the Wolves were the 4th worst offensive team with that same offensive rating). But for the season, their offensive rating was 3rd best at 113.1 trailing just the Lakers(114) and Sixers(113.5). Their offensive rating with KJ was probably better than Philly's and maybe right around the Lakers. KJ also averaged 24.2 ppg and 11.6 apg from january-April in 57 games once he was no longer in and out of the lineup with nagging injuries like he was during November and December.

Game 1
Stockton- 16 points, 17 assists, 7/16 FG, 0/1 3P, 2/2 FT
Malone- 21 points, 11 rebounds, 8/20 FG, 5/6 FT
Kevin Johnson- 0 points, 0/1 FG, 9 minutes
Tom Chambers- 19 points, 5/16 FG, 1/1 3P, 8/9 FT

Game 2
Kevin Johnson- 22 points, 7 assists, 7/14 FG, 0/1 3P, 8/9 FT
Tom Chambers- 12 points, 2/12 FG, 8/8 FT
Stockton- 12 points, 8 assists, 5/12 FG, 0/3 3P, 2/4 FT
Malone- 20 points, 10 rebounds, 7/21 FG, 6/7 FT

Game 3
Kevin Johnson- 29 points, 12 assists, 10/27 FG, 0/2 3P, 9/11 FT
Tom Chambers- 23 points, 6/12 FG, 0/1 3P, 11/12 FT
Stockton- 22 points, 19 assists, 8/18 FG, 1/5 3P, 5/6 FT
Malone- 26 points, 11 rebounds, 8/21 FG, 0/1 3P, 10/11 FT

Game 4
Stockton- 16 points, 14 assists, 6/12 FG, 4/4 FT
Malone- 33 points, 11 rebounds, 5 steals, 13/24 FG, 7/9 FT
Kevin Johnson- 22 points, 13 assists, 9/23 FG, 3/4 FT
Tom Chambers- 14 points, 4/14 FG, 9 turnovers

Game 5
Kevin Johnson- 26 points, 9 assists, 11/22 FG, 4/7 FT
Chambers- 33 points, 8/15 FG, 0/1 3P, 16/16 FT
Stockton- 9 points, 17 assists, 3/11 FG, 0/3 3P, 3/4 FT
Malone- 26 points, 10/19 FG, 6/12 FT

Isiah also had a much more consistent and impressive playoff run than in '89. Looked up his numbers and Dumars numbers a while ago, will look them up again and post them when I get a chance.

Here's the 2 other series the '83 Sixers played aside from the finals.

Sixers vs Knicks

Game 1
Moses- 38 points, 17 rebounds, 15/23 FG, 8/9 FT
Mo Cheeks- 14 points, 10 assists, 6/11 FG, 2/2 FT
Dr. J- 11 points, 4/16 FG, 3/4 FT
Andrew Toney- 11 points, 4/8 FG, 3/4 FT

Game 2
Moses- 30 points, 17 rebounds, 4 steals, 3 blocks, 10/20 FG, 10/14 FT
Cheeks- 26 points, 6 assists, 4 steals, 8/15 FG, 10/14 FT
Dr. J- 20 points, 8/20 FG, 4/4 FT
Toney- Didn't play

Game 3
Moses- 28 points, 14 rebounds, 12/20 FG, 4/10 FT
Cheeks- 24 points, 6/13 FG, 11/14 FT
Dr. J- 20 points, 9/19 FG, 2/6 FT
Toney- 2 points, 1/7 FG

Game 4
Moses- 29 points, 14 rebounds, 9/17 FG, 11/12 FT
Dr. J- 18 points, 7/15 FG, 4/6 FT
Toney- 14 points, 7/14 FG, 0/2 FT
Cheeks- 6 points, 7 assists, 3/5 FG

Sixers vs Bucks

Game 1
Moses- 14 points, 12 rebounds, 5/14 FG, 4/7 FT, 9 turnovers
Cheeks- 26 points, 7 assists, 4 steals, 12/18 FG, 2/5 FT
Toney- 22 points, 11/15 FG, 0/1 FT
Dr. J- 19 points, 7/14 FG, 5/8 FT

Game 2
Moses- 26 points, 17 rebounds, 11/17 FG, 4/7 FT
Toney- 20 points, 4 assists, 8/20 FG, 4/6 FT
Dr. J- 6 points, 3/11 FG
Cheeks- 15 points, 4 assists, 7/15 FG, 1/1 FT

Game 3
Moses- 25 points, 14 rebounds, 9/16 FG, 7/7 FT
Dr. J- 26 points, 10/16 FG, 6/8 FT
Cheeks- 16 points, 9 assists, 7/16 FG, 2/2 FT
Toney- 15 points, 6/15 FG, 3/4 FT

Game 4
Toney- 24 points, 10/21 FG, 4/6 FT
Dr. J- 19 points, 7/17 FG
Moses- 17 points, 12 rebounds, 7/19 FG, 3/3 FT
Cheeks- 13 points, 4/14 FG, 5/7 FT

Game 5
Toney- 30 points, 7 assists, 10/14 FG, 10/13 FT
Moses- 28 points, 17 rebounds, 12/18 FG, 4/4 FT
Dr. J- 24 points, 10/19 FG, 4/6 FT
Cheeks- 11 points, 8 assists, 4/11 FG, 3/4 FT

[NugzHeat3]

KJ was the second best PG that year behind Magic, imo. Including games where KJ only played 3 minutes and 6 minutes, Phoenix was 4-6 without him while their offensive rating was just 103.6 without him(league average was 108.1 and the Wolves were the 4th worst offensive team with that same offensive rating). But for the season, their offensive rating was 3rd best at 113.1 trailing just the Lakers(114) and Sixers(113.5). Their offensive rating with KJ was probably better than Philly's and maybe right around the Lakers. KJ also averaged 24.2 ppg and 11.6 apg from january-April in 57 games once he was no longer in and out of the lineup with nagging injuries like he was during November and December.

Game 1
Stockton- 16 points, 17 assists, 7/16 FG, 0/1 3P, 2/2 FT
Malone- 21 points, 11 rebounds, 8/20 FG, 5/6 FT
Kevin Johnson- 0 points, 0/1 FG, 9 minutes
Tom Chambers- 19 points, 5/16 FG, 1/1 3P, 8/9 FT

Game 2
Kevin Johnson- 22 points, 7 assists, 7/14 FG, 0/1 3P, 8/9 FT
Tom Chambers- 12 points, 2/12 FG, 8/8 FT
Stockton- 12 points, 8 assists, 5/12 FG, 0/3 3P, 2/4 FT
Malone- 20 points, 10 rebounds, 7/21 FG, 6/7 FT

Game 3
Kevin Johnson- 29 points, 12 assists, 10/27 FG, 0/2 3P, 9/11 FT
Tom Chambers- 23 points, 6/12 FG, 0/1 3P, 11/12 FT
Stockton- 22 points, 19 assists, 8/18 FG, 1/5 3P, 5/6 FT
Malone- 26 points, 11 rebounds, 8/21 FG, 0/1 3P, 10/11 FT

Game 4
Stockton- 16 points, 14 assists, 6/12 FG, 4/4 FT
Malone- 33 points, 11 rebounds, 5 steals, 13/24 FG, 7/9 FT
Kevin Johnson- 22 points, 13 assists, 9/23 FG, 3/4 FT
Tom Chambers- 14 points, 4/14 FG, 9 turnovers

Game 5
Kevin Johnson- 26 points, 9 assists, 11/22 FG, 4/7 FT
Chambers- 33 points, 8/15 FG, 0/1 3P, 16/16 FT
Stockton- 9 points, 17 assists, 3/11 FG, 0/3 3P, 3/4 FT
Malone- 26 points, 10/19 FG, 6/12 FT

Isiah also had a much more consistent and impressive playoff run than in '89. Looked up his numbers and Dumars numbers a while ago, will look them up again and post them when I get a chance.

Here's the 2 other series the '83 Sixers played aside from the finals.

Sixers vs Knicks

Game 1
Moses- 38 points, 17 rebounds, 15/23 FG, 8/9 FT
Mo Cheeks- 14 points, 10 assists, 6/11 FG, 2/2 FT
Dr. J- 11 points, 4/16 FG, 3/4 FT
Andrew Toney- 11 points, 4/8 FG, 3/4 FT

Game 2
Moses- 30 points, 17 rebounds, 4 steals, 3 blocks, 10/20 FG, 10/14 FT
Cheeks- 26 points, 6 assists, 4 steals, 8/15 FG, 10/14 FT
Dr. J- 20 points, 8/20 FG, 4/4 FT
Toney- Didn't play

Game 3
Moses- 28 points, 14 rebounds, 12/20 FG, 4/10 FT
Cheeks- 24 points, 6/13 FG, 11/14 FT
Dr. J- 20 points, 9/19 FG, 2/6 FT
Toney- 2 points, 1/7 FG

Game 4
Moses- 29 points, 14 rebounds, 9/17 FG, 11/12 FT
Dr. J- 18 points, 7/15 FG, 4/6 FT
Toney- 14 points, 7/14 FG, 0/2 FT
Cheeks- 6 points, 7 assists, 3/5 FG

Sixers vs Bucks

Game 1
Moses- 14 points, 12 rebounds, 5/14 FG, 4/7 FT, 9 turnovers
Cheeks- 26 points, 7 assists, 4 steals, 12/18 FG, 2/5 FT
Toney- 22 points, 11/15 FG, 0/1 FT
Dr. J- 19 points, 7/14 FG, 5/8 FT

Game 2
Moses- 26 points, 17 rebounds, 11/17 FG, 4/7 FT
Toney- 20 points, 4 assists, 8/20 FG, 4/6 FT
Dr. J- 6 points, 3/11 FG
Cheeks- 15 points, 4 assists, 7/15 FG, 1/1 FT

Game 3
Moses- 25 points, 14 rebounds, 9/16 FG, 7/7 FT
Dr. J- 26 points, 10/16 FG, 6/8 FT
Cheeks- 16 points, 9 assists, 7/16 FG, 2/2 FT
Toney- 15 points, 6/15 FG, 3/4 FT

Game 4
Toney- 24 points, 10/21 FG, 4/6 FT
Dr. J- 19 points, 7/17 FG
Moses- 17 points, 12 rebounds, 7/19 FG, 3/3 FT
Cheeks- 13 points, 4/14 FG, 5/7 FT

Game 5
Toney- 30 points, 7 assists, 10/14 FG, 10/13 FT
Moses- 28 points, 17 rebounds, 12/18 FG, 4/4 FT
Dr. J- 24 points, 10/19 FG, 4/6 FT
Cheeks- 11 points, 8 assists, 4/11 FG, 3/4 FT
Excellent info. :applause:

I watched that game 5 between PHX and Utah. Chambers and Eddie Johnson were ridiculous in the 4th and KJ ends up hitting the GW off the catch right from the FT line.

Malone actually hits an open jumper right before that off the feed from Stockton but for the most part he was poor in the 4th. No attempt to put pressure on the defense, just shooting the fade right off the catch.

KJ definitely got the better off Stockton I would say and I think he was injured the first two games.

BTW, I agree that KJ was the second best PG that year. 6 out of 22 GMs actually picked KJ above Magic that year (I strongly disagree) and that's right after the end of the season. We know what kind of an effect winning has on people and since KJ's team beat Magic's (though Magic definitely had the better series), I wouldn't be surprised if he was voted the best PG at the end of the year.

[PTB Fan]

Jerry West 69-70 Finals

Game 1:53 points, 10 assists


Game 2:41 points, 17-20 FT, 20 FG


Game 3:24 points, 6-7 FG, 9 Fg (He and Baylor shot for a combined 1-14 in the fourth..)


Game 4:40 points, 10-10 FT, 15 FG


Game 5:39 points, 7-8 FT, 16 FG


Game 6:26 points, 8-11 FT, 9 FG


Game 7:42 points, 13 rebounds, 12 assists, 14-29 FG, 14-18 FT


Series Averages:37.9 points.. i don't have anything other though

But boy, West was amazing for sure!

[PTB Fan]

Anyone have some Oscar Robertson stats from his best playoff series?

[ShaqAttack3234]

Excellent info. :applause:

I watched that game 5 between PHX and Utah. Chambers and Eddie Johnson were ridiculous in the 4th and KJ ends up hitting the GW off the catch right from the FT line.

Malone actually hits an open jumper right before that off the feed from Stockton but for the most part he was poor in the 4th. No attempt to put pressure on the defense, just shooting the fade right off the catch.

KJ definitely got the better off Stockton I would say and I think he was injured the first two games.

BTW, I agree that KJ was the second best PG that year. 6 out of 22 GMs actually picked KJ above Magic that year (I strongly disagree) and that's right after the end of the season. We know what kind of an effect winning has on people and since KJ's team beat Magic's (though Magic definitely had the better series), I wouldn't be surprised if he was voted the best PG at the end of the year.

It seems like Phoenix really bothered Karl with double teams in that series. Amazing how many times he stripped Chambers in the post in game 4, though.

Whenever I watch '90 Malone games, I'm never quite as impressed as I'd expect to be due to the numbers he put up during the regular season. I don't think he was a top 5 player that year and think he became better later. Granted, it's hard to live up to the numbers he put up, but it shows how much stats are based on circumstances.

Interesting about the GMs picking KJ, and I agree that Magic was clearly better. But KJ had a legit case for 2nd best PG in '89 and maybe the best PG in '92 and '94(or best guard overall in '94 for that matter).

[PTB Fan]

Didn't see any mention of Oscar's playoff stats. Here're few that I've found but are incomplete.

vs LA '71

Game 1: 19 points, 10 assists, 7 rebounds, 8-19 FG
Game 2: 11 points, ? assists
Game 3: 10 points, 9 assists, 5-10 FG
Game 4: 19 points, ? assists
Game 5: 16 points, 12 assists, 6 rebounds, 6-15 FG


vs Warriors '71

Game 1: 31 points, ? assists, 14-23 FG
Game 2: 15 points, ? assists
Game 3: 15 points, ? assists, 7/12 FG (foul trouble)
Game 4: 13 points, 5 assists, 7 boards, 6/16 FG
Game 5: 12 points, 15 assists




vs Celtics '63 (arguably his greatest playoff series)

Game 1: 43 points, 14 rebounds, 10 assists (17/25 FG, 9/12 FT)
Game 2: 28 points, 13 rebounds, (9/15 FG, 10/11 FT)
Game 3: 23 points, 12 rebounds, 8 assists (7/21 FG, 9/10 FT)
Game 4: 25 points, 15 rebounds (8/23 FG, 9/11 FT)
Game 5: 36 points, 12 rebounds, 10 assists (14/26 FG, 8/8 FT)
Game 6: 36 points, 15 rebounds (14/31 FG, 8/9 FT)
Game 7: 43 points, 6 rebounds, 6 assists (11/24 FG, 21/22 FT)

[OldSchoolBBall]

BBR has full boxscores of all playoff games as far back as 1985 now.