Players that have more rings than Lebron

[Da Heroic One]

DeShawn Stevenson
Mark Madsen
Adam Morrison
Brian Shaw

Keep the list going...

[kaiiu]

Tony Allen. Both of them.

[Mr. Incredible]

DeShawn Stevenson
Mark Madsen
Adam Morrison
Brian Shaw

Keep the list going...& more than Carmelo & Amare. Carry on.

[az00m]

dirk

[Da Heroic One]

Brian Scalabrine

Kobe Bryant

Dwyane Wade

[AlphaWolf24]

DeShawn Stevenson
Mark Madsen
Adam Morrison
Brian Shaw

Keep the list going...


Players in similar roles that have more rings then Lebron..

03' - 10' Lebron
Magic
Bird
Jordan
Kobe
Wade
Dirk


present day Lebron..
Pippen
Terry
Parker
James Worthy
Kevin Mchale
Shannon Brown
.next

[nbacardDOTnet]

P.J. Brown

Sam Cassell

Scot Pollad

James Posey

Eddie House :lol

Kendrick Perkins

Tony Allen

Rajon Rondo

Leon Powe

Glen Davis

Gabe Pruitt

Brian Scalabrine

Brian Cardinal

Peja Stojakovic

next

[Samurai Swoosh]

Ricky Rubio has the same amount as LeBron

[Da Heroic One]

Ricky Rubio has the same amount as LeBron
Me and you do as well. We're on Lebron's level.

[adri41]

Ricky Rubio has the same amount as LeBron

So do I!

[kaiiu]

Gloria James tub has more rings around it than Lebron

[AlphaWolf24]

Me and you do as well. We're on Lebron's level.


meh...you are'nt the leader of a Pro Basketball team who is directly responsible for the pulse of the team....Kobe , MJ , Magic , Bird were....Scalabrine and Madsen were not.


well I guess Lebron isn't either now......Wade is.


nevermind.....

[Samurai Swoosh]

meh...you are'nt the leader of a Pro Basketball team who is directly responsible for the pulse of the team....Kobe , MJ , Magic , Bird were....Scalabrine and Madsen were not.


well I guess Lebron isn't either now......Wade is.


nevermind.....
So compare him to proper sidekicks.

Tony Parker / Manu Ginobili have more
Paula Gasoft has more
early 2000's Kobe has more

etc.

[hack_a_shaq]

Sasha :rockon:

[kaiiu]

Fisher
Ginobili
Rip Hamilton
Zo
Ray Allen
Odom


Lebron's fellow 3rd options who won a ring the last decade

[AlphaWolf24]

So compare him to proper sidekicks.

Tony Parker / Manu Ginobili have more
Paula Gasoft has more
early 2000's Kobe has more

etc.


sidekick isn't the #1 option in the 4th quarters while the "man" has to sit because he does'nt have the skill set to finish games...

oh....

00' Kobe maybe......01' Kobe the best player in the NBA> Shaq any year.....

"Kobe the best player in the NBA at 22 years old" - ESPN...


next

[Samurai Swoosh]

sidekick isn't the #1 option in the 4th quarters while the "man" has to sit because he does'nt have the skill set to finish games...
Touche.

But 2000 Kobe was absolutely a sidekick.

2001 he was a bonnafide top five player.

[AlphaWolf24]

Touche.

But 2000 Kobe was absolutely a sidekick.

2001 he was a bonnafide top five player.

ok then 21 year old Kobe has more Rings then Lebron.....21 year old Kobe has more Rings then alot of players.

[Samurai Swoosh]

ok then 21 year old Kobe has more Rings then Lebron.....21 year old Kobe has more Rings then alot of players.
I don't care about age. It's irrelevant. It's all about how many years you've been in the league.

[AlphaWolf24]

I don't care about age. It's irrelevant. It's all about how many years you've been in the league.


games?....why not minutes played?....scratch that.....times you watched and played basketball since the age of 7???...


fine then....Kobe in his 4th year still has more Rings then alot of players in their 4th year:lol

age is irrelevant?.....(rolls eyes , looks up , shakes head)

[Andrei89]

DeShawn Stevenson
Mark Madsen
Adam Morrison
Brian Shaw

Keep the list going...

How many does Melo have?

[Samurai Swoosh]

fine then....Kobe in his 4th year still has more Rings then alot of players in their 4th year:lol
Well duh, he forced a trade to the Lakers. They had Shaq.

:oldlol:

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[Rose]

Meticode with the hard work!

[bokes15]

^^ LMFAO!!!! hahaha. Definitely a Cavs fan would do that. Hilarious!

edit: nobody at all at Q and Z?

[Samurai Swoosh]

Meticode doin work, son !!!

:pimp:

[thatoneblackguy]

Well duh, he forced a trade to the Lakers. They had Shaq.

:oldlol:
LeBron forced his way to Miami and still doesnt have a ring:oldlol:

[AlphaWolf24]

Well duh, he forced a trade to the Lakers. They had Shaq.

:oldlol:


Shaq without Kobe = 6 + 50 win teams capable of winning......he won 1 as a "sideKick"


anyways....many NBA stars had far better teamates then Shaq and a few role players.....did they win at he same pace as Kobe?......7 NBA Finals in 10 years...3 straight without Shaq:confusedshrug:


look at the HEAT this year:lol

[Samurai Swoosh]

LeBron forced his way to Miami and still doesnt have a ring:oldlol:
We've established that ... are you retarded? lol

Why are you getting touchy? We all know LeBron is a loser.

[Meticode]

^^ LMFAO!!!! hahaha. Definitely a Cavs fan would do that. Hilarious!

edit: nobody at all at Q and Z?
There's a few Mavs I left off the list, I'm sure they would be on or not...

Steve Novak
Sasha Pavlovic
Greg Buckner
Tim Thomas

...not sure if they they get rings or not.

[AlphaWolf24]

LeBron forced his way to Miami and still doesnt have a ring:oldlol:

oh dang.....:oldlol:

[Meticode]

^^ LMFAO!!!! hahaha. Definitely a Cavs fan would do that. Hilarious!

edit: nobody at all at Q and Z?
All I did was copy+paste and added in the Mavs I knew off the top of my head.

[Samurai Swoosh]

Shaq without Kobe = 6 + 50 win teams capable of winning......he won 1 as a "sideKick"
You're preaching to the choir ... talking to me like I don't know these things. Just saying Kobe was blessed with a great situation to win as quickly as possible because he very selfishly forced his way to a team he wanted to be on as a rookie who hadn't done anything yet in the league. Entitlement. Just keeping things in perspective, that's all. Don't get salty, bro. I'm not making anything up here.

[bokes15]

All I did was copy+paste and added in the Mavs I knew off the top of my head.
:oldlol: that's still one hell of a list though.

[AlphaWolf24]

We've established that ... are you retarded? lol

Why are you getting touchy? We all know LeBron is a loser.


but...your theory is Kobe just wins with great players.....


so how come it doesn't work for other NBA Stars????

[G-train]

Cool make this thread about Barkley, Stockton, Malone, etc too.
And their careers are done too.

[Samurai Swoosh]

but...your theory is Kobe just wins with great players.....
Ummm, I made my comment because it gives perspective on why Kobe Bryant was able to win rings so quickly early on his career. C'mon man, why are you playing dumb right now?

:oldlol:

[AlphaWolf24]

You're preaching to the choir ... talking to me like I don't know these things. Just saying Kobe was blessed with a great situation to win as quickly as possible because he very selfishly forced his way to a team he wanted to be on as a rookie who hadn't done anything yet in the league. Entitlement. Just keeping things in perspective, that's all. Don't get salty, bro. I'm not making anything up here.


psst...blessed...how?.....

so it's Luck now...did the basketball Gods want Kobe to win just like they didn't want the Heat to win????


so Kobe rolled outta bed 1 day and picked up a basketball and became a champion because he was selfish and Lucky?.....come on son.....I now you watched MJ's Nike Comercials.....the Highlight didn't start at the freethrow line....


recognize game when it's in your face....Hopefully "God" has more pressing issues then to bless Kobe......Kobe don't need it...





your better then that.................next

[Samurai Swoosh]

psst...blessed...how?.....

so it's Luck now...did the basketball Gods want Kobe to win just like they didn't want the Heat to win????


so Kobe rolled outta bed 1 day and picked up a basketball and became a champion because he was selfish and Lucky?.....come on son.....I now you watched MJ's Nike Comercials.....the Highlight didn't start at the freethrow line....


recognize game when it's in your face....Hopefully "God" has more pressing issues then to bless Kobe......Kobe don't need it...





your better then that.................next
You're getting ultra defensive, kiddo.

No where here am I saying Kobe wasn't BALLIN. LOL ... at the defensive nature of you. I'm saying the real reason Kobe was in such a great position to win early was because he forced his way to a team that was already really talented, and happened to already have a top five player. Of course he developed over the coure of 3 seasons, and won it in his 4th. The year Shaq won MVP, and the only year he truly went HAM. Kobe was a sidekick that year, then the next year Kobe raised his game to another level.

I'm just saying. Wade won it in his 3rd year. Why did Wade win it in his 3rd year, bro?

Answer the question ... because its the same reason Kobe was able to win so quickly.

[Meticode]

Cool make this thread about Barkley, Stockton, Malone, etc too.
And their careers are done too.
They didn't sell out to go ring chasing and piggy-backing though. Well, maybe Malone did a tiny bit to try to ride one with the Lakers. But more or less during the prime of their careers.

[AlphaWolf24]

Ummm, I made my comment because it gives perspective on why Kobe Bryant was able to win rings so quickly early on his career. C'mon man, why are you playing dumb right now?

:oldlol:


Dumb?..I aint the one that isn't applying myself......Kobe won early in his career because he worked on his game constantly....at 19 , 20 , 21 his skillset was so developed he could take over...by 22 he was the best player in the NBA...


I know it's hard for you to understand.....but No Zombie Wizard in the sky is blessing basketball players...it's who wants it and works the hardest to get it...


come on son...apply yourself.

[G-train]

They didn't sell out to go ring chasing and piggy-backing though. Well, maybe Malone did a tiny bit to try to ride one with the Lakers. But more or less during the prime of their careers.

:rolleyes:
Hater and Loser.

[Samurai Swoosh]

by 22 he was the best player in the NBA...
LOL ... c'mon now, bro ...

He wasn't even un-questionably the best player on his own team. 2001, 2002, 2003, and 2004 it was like a 1a) / 1b) kind of deal.

And you're saying he was un-doubtedly better than KG and Duncan ontop of that?

You're talking "gaga" ...

Well, a stan is a stan I guess ...

:facepalm

[AlphaWolf24]

You're getting ultra defensive, kiddo.

No where here am I saying Kobe wasn't BALLIN. LOL ... at the defensive nature of you. I'm saying the real reason Kobe was in such a great position to win early was because he forced his way to a team that was already really talented, and happened to already have a top five player. Of course he developed over the coure of 3 seasons, and won it in his 4th. The year Shaq won MVP, and the only year he truly went HAM. Kobe was a sidekick that year, then the next year Kobe raised his game to another level.

I'm just saying. Wade won it in his 3rd year. Why did Wade win it in his 3rd year, bro?

Answer the question ... because its the same reason Kobe was able to win so quickly.


so why didn't Wade win it his 2nd year???....or Penny Hardaway in his 1rst or 2nd year...or Lebron???......why didn't Shaq win it those other 6+ seasons on 50+ win teams without Kobe???..

why did Shaq go to 4 NBA Finals and play his best basketball with Kobe??....why didn't he never come close to that without Kobe?



aint nobody "defensive".....:lol I'm just talkin Hoop...You got mad because I said "similar Roles" as Pippen...


next

[G-train]

LOL ... c'mon now, bro ...

He wasn't even un-questionably the best player on his own team. 2001, 2002, 2003, and 2004 it was like a 1a) / 1b) kind of deal.

And you're saying he was un-doubtedly better than KG and Duncan ontop of that?

You're talking "gaga" ...

Well, a stan is a stan I guess ...

:facepalm

Kobe was never a more effective player than Shaq on any Laker team.

[Samurai Swoosh]

Dumb?..I aint the one that isn't applying myself......Kobe won early in his career because he worked on his game constantly....at 19 , 20 , 21 his skillset was so developed he could take over...by 22 he was the best player in the NBA...
If Kobe was that dude, he would've been content being drafted by the Hornets. Worked his ass off there, and had a franchise build around him from the get go ... then we could've seen how quickly he would've won a ring.

He forced a trade to the Lakers. And the table was set for him to develop and still be apart of a winning organization.

LOL @ the agendas, insecurity, and defensive tone you took.

I appreciate Kobe ... you know this. I'm just being real with you. Don't act like Kobe made a ***** move as a rookie by forcing his way onto the Lakers. Magic did the same thing. *****.

[AlphaWolf24]

LOL ... c'mon now, bro ...

He wasn't even un-questionably the best player on his own team. 2001, 2002, 2003, and 2004 it was like a 1a) / 1b) kind of deal.

And you're saying he was un-doubtedly better than KG and Duncan ontop of that?

You're talking "gaga" ...

Well, a stan is a stan I guess ...

:facepalm

ESPN called him the best at 22.....SLAM said it was Kobe's league at 22...Shaq said Kobe was the best player in the NBA at 22....

was he?....IMO yes...your opinion it was Shaq or KG???....all I'm saying it was widely viewed as Kobe being the best allaround player in the NBA at 22....many people viewed it as such.

[Meticode]

Hostility!

[Samurai Swoosh]

Kobe was never a more effective player than Shaq on any Laker team.
More effective from a numbers stand point, agreed. But Kobe was heavy relied upon to create for others, play make, and was their go to guy down the stretch of games. So that negates whatever disparity there is in numbers between Shaq and Kobe from 2001 - 2004. Basketball just isn't played in box scores, with numbers, stats,a nd formulas.

[G-train]

Let's not act like Jordan didn't request a trade on multiple occasions but met his match in ego with Krause.

[Samurai Swoosh]

ESPN called him the best at 22.....SLAM said it was Kobe's league at 22...Shaq said Kobe was the best player in the NBA at 22....
And there are people that call LeBron the best player since Jordan. Your point?

By the way, if you're going to make these claims ... you got to point to references.

No, I never saw the majority view point of Kobe EVER being the best player in the league in the early 2000's.

He didn't start getting that legitimate talk until 2006.

[G-train]

Basketball just isn't played in box scores, with numbers, stats,a nd formulas.

O rly?

Thats exactly my point. Shaq's low post dominance and size on the defensive end was of greater importance than Kobe's play on the wings.
Can't be bothered on goign into detail teh massive impact Shaq had on game by just being out there... > Kobe's.

[Samurai Swoosh]

Let's not act like Jordan didn't request a trade on multiple occasions but met his match in ego with Krause.
Let's not go making things up, now ...

:oldlol:

[Samurai Swoosh]

O rly?

Thats exactly my point. Shaq's low post dominance and size on the defensive end was of greater importance than Kobe's play on the wings.
Can't be bothered on goign into detail teh massive impact Shaq had on game by just being out there... > Kobe's.
Are you drunk right now, or still just stupid?

[AlphaWolf24]

If Kobe was that dude, he would've been content being drafted by the Hornets. Worked his ass off there, and had a franchise build around him from the get go ... then we could've seen how quickly he would've won a ring.

He forced a trade to the Lakers. And the table was set for him to develop and still be apart of a winning organization.

LOL @ the agendas, insecurity, and defensive tone you took.

I appreciate Kobe ... you know this. I'm just being real with you. Don't act like Kobe made a ***** move as a rookie by forcing his way onto the Lakers. Magic did the same thing. *****.



nothing was set...nothing was Given.....in fact a lesser player wouldn't want to ride the bench for 2 years ....they would want to go and be a star right away...Kobe had a dream of bieng a Laker No Matter what....not just getting playing time and bieng a star...he wanted to be a Laker.



Kobe was that dude...that's what made him dream of playing as a Laker since a little Kid...that's what made him put in work.....that's why he is a 5X Champion.......he stepped up and made his Dream come True....


he could have went to Utah or San Antonio to Ringchase if going by your theory:lol

[G-train]

I'm too knowledgeable and informed for this amateur thraed.

[AlphaWolf24]

Let's not go making things up, now ...

:oldlol:


aint nobody making anything up...Jordan demanded Trades and Coaches to be Fired...if he didn't get his way he threatened to leave....

next

[AlphaWolf24]

Are you drunk right now, or still just stupid?


:lol callin people out as defensive...when you def Mad right now.

[Ne 1]

he forced his way to a team

This isn't accurate. Jerry West traded to get Kobe and the trade was made in advance, in order to unload Vlade's contract to sign Shaq.

All Kobe did was turn off workouts once he got a promise from LA. That is completely different.


"The deal was actually done a day ahead of time, and it was Vlade for a player to be named," said Bill Branch, the Hornets' head scout at the time who still operates out of Charlotte as a scout for the Seattle-now-Oklahoma City Sonics. "If I remember right, they didn't even tell us who they wanted us to pick until about five minutes before the pick was made. So it was never a matter of us actually drafting Kobe.""
In order to get far enough under the salary cap to make a valid pitch to O'Neal, the Lakers needed to unload Divac's contract, preferably to a team under the salary cap and preferably for a draft pick. The Hornets had traded Alonzo Mourning the previous year, were without a bona fide center, and were well under the cap after renouncing the rights to free agent Kenny Anderson. They would trade Larry Johnson to New York for Anthony Mason later that summer.
The Hornets reasoned that they could come out of the draft with no better than Vitaly Potapenko or Todd Fuller if they drafted a center, and jumped at the chance to trade the 13th pick for Divac.
"When you look back at it, when we made that trade, here was a 17-year-old kid who had played in high school," said Bob Bass, the Hornets' executive vice president of basketball operations at the time. "Twelve other teams passed on him. We made a decision to win now and not later. We had Dave Cowens as our first-year coach, and I wanted to give him a chance to win. I knew if we got Divac in here, we'd win. I didn't feel the same about Bryant. Without Divac, I thought we might have won 25 games."

The Hornets won 54 games, then a franchise record, the next season with Divac.

[Jacks3]

Kobe was never a more effective player than Shaq on any Laker team.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Samurai Swoosh]

Kobe was that dude...that's what made him dream of playing as a Laker since a little Kid...that's what made him put in work.....that's why he is a 5X Champion.......he stepped up and made his Dream come True....
Stop with that nonsense. You know as well as I do Kobe's favorite player is Jordan.

He used to try to sell all of us on that early on in his career.

"My favorite team is the Lakers, my favorite player is Magic"

Yet everything I do, say, walk, talk, shoot, chew my gum, hold my shorts is an exact immitation of Jordan.

C'mon son.

:oldlol:

He forced a trade to a franchise that already has a long pedigree of winning.

Kobe's always been aware of his future legacy instead of just worrying about the task at hand and letting his legacy become a byproduct of winning.

Kobe ... if he really wanted to have a stronger legacy by actually proving himself would've went to Charlotte, and would've been bound and determined to turn them into a winning franchise.

[Mr. Jabbar]

DJ MBenga :banana:

[Samurai Swoosh]

aint nobody making anything up...Jordan demanded Trades and Coaches to be Fired...if he didn't get his way he threatened to leave....

next
Link ... because it didn't exist.

Jordan signed a long term contract with the Bulls, that actually made him lose money in the overall scheme of things.

Jordan never wanted to force a trade. Never came out and demanded a trade via the media.

Jordan never got any coach fired. He liked Doug Collins. Even so much as to re-hire him when he was GM of the Wiz.

:oldlol: @ the LeBron / Kobe stans reaching right now.

[Ne 1]

Magic did the dame thing

Jerry West traded to get Kobe, Magic had a choice between the Lakers and the Bulls (well, it was about who won the coin toss) and Magic said that that he would either play for Los Angeles or remain at Michigan State.

And I don't condone what Magic did (didn't like Eli Manning refusing to go to San Diego or John Elway refusing to play for the Colts, either), but just saying his situation and Kobe's are hardly the same thing.

[Jacks3]

This isn't accurate. Jerry West traded to get Kobe and the trade was made in advance, in order to unload Vlade's contract to sign Shaq.

All Kobe did was turn off workouts once he got a promise from LA. That is completely different.
This.

[Premeditated]

You're getting ultra defensive, kiddo.

No where here am I saying Kobe wasn't BALLIN. LOL ... at the defensive nature of you. I'm saying the real reason Kobe was in such a great position to win early was because he forced his way to a team that was already really talented, and happened to already have a top five player. Of course he developed over the coure of 3 seasons, and won it in his 4th. The year Shaq won MVP, and the only year he truly went HAM. Kobe was a sidekick that year, then the next year Kobe raised his game to another level.

I'm just saying. Wade won it in his 3rd year. Why did Wade win it in his 3rd year, bro?

Answer the question ... because its the same reason Kobe was able to win so quickly.
uh...Kobe was a Laker before Shaq, so you can't say he joined LA because he though he'll get a easy ride to the Championship. The Lakers were like the Carmelo Era Denver Nuggets back then. Kobe probably "forced" his way there because he wanted the beautiful California weather.

[AlphaWolf24]

Stop with that nonsense. You know as well as I do Kobe's favorite player is Jordan.

He used to try to sell all of us on that early on in his career.

"My favorite team is the Lakers, my favorite player is Magic"

Yet everything I do, say, walk, talk, shoot, chew my gum, hold my shorts is an exact immitation of Jordan.

C'mon son.

:oldlol:

He forced a trade to a franchise that already has a long pedigree of winning.

Kobe's always been aware of his future legacy instead of just worrying about the task at hand and letting his legacy become a byproduct of winning.

Kobe ... if he really wanted to have a stronger legacy by actually proving himself would've went to Charlotte, and would've been bound and determined to turn them into a winning franchise.

" long pedigree of winning.":facepalm ....:lol ok....that doesn't mean you just go to a team with a "pedigree" and win....how long did the Celtics go without winning?....



his favorite player and team was Magic and the lakers...but he incorporated many players games in his own....most important Jordan's Mid Range and Post game....but Kobe creating with the ball , looks different and more refined....what more do you want from a player?...

you saying Jordan or any other great players didn't copy other players before them??...Mj copied 75% of Dr.J's game on and off the court.


pedigree:lol You desperate.....2EZ

[Samurai Swoosh]

but just saying his situation and Kobe's are hardly the same thing.
Kobe refused to go to Charlotte.

:facepalm

He forced their hand to trade him. Same way Francis did the Grizz.

[Samurai Swoosh]

uh...Kobe was a Laker before Shaq, so you can't say he joined LA because he though he'll get a easy ride to the Championship. The Lakers were like the Carmelo Era Denver Nuggets back then. Kobe probably "forced" his way there because he wanted the beautiful California weather.
Kobe and Shaq arrived in LA the same year. How was Kobe there "before" Shaq?

:oldlol:

[AlphaWolf24]

Link ... because it didn't exist.

Jordan signed a long term contract with the Bulls, that actually made him lose money in the overall scheme of things.

Jordan never wanted to force a trade. Never came out and demanded a trade via the media.

Jordan never got any coach fired. He liked Doug Collins. Even so much as to re-hire him when he was GM of the Wiz.

:oldlol: @ the LeBron / Kobe stans reaching right now.

I'll get the links and I'll bump the thread......

Jordan did alot of "demanding" not through the Media...but his former teamates talk about it....I just got to look for the links because I have seen them many times...and remember watching the games and announcers talking about it.

[AlphaWolf24]

Kobe and Shaq arrived in LA the same year. How was Kobe there "before" Shaq?

:oldlol:

:facepalm

[Samurai Swoosh]

Mj copied 75% of Dr.J's game on and off the court.
Not really ... nor did he swagger jack him. Kobe tries to do everything like Jordan. Brent Barry commented on how he saw Kobe watching hours of tape of Jordan studying him. He tried doing interviews like him, celebrates like him. He tries to have "flu games" like Jordan. He tried to replicate the "he can't guard me" game. Jumps on score tables when they win the ring @ home ... JUST like Jordan.

C'mon now son ...

It's creepy.

:oldlol:

[Samurai Swoosh]

I'll get the links and I'll bump the thread......

Jordan did alot of "demanding" not through the Media...but his former teamates talk about it....I just got to look for the links because I have seen them many times...and remember watching the games and announcers talking about it.
I've read the Jordan Rules.

He made plenty of demands to get certain players on the team, or get rid of certain players.

He never actually went through with demaning himself be traded.

And if he did it was behind close doors. He didn't spend a whole summer on sports talk radios and sport television shows demanding to be traded elsewhere or saying he "rather play on mars"

And as a rookie he didn't demand a trade to an organization he wanted to play 4
:oldlol:

[Premeditated]

Kobe and Shaq arrived in LA the same year. How was Kobe there "before" Shaq?

:oldlol:
don't play dumb. It was you that said Kobe went to a team that already had a top 5 player, making it seemed that he took the easy way out. And I corrected you by saying he was a Laker a week or two before Shaq. I've read you're posts in this thread. Don't try to twist things.

[Ne 1]

Kobe refused to go to Charlotte.

:facepalm



Kobe didn't refuse to play for Charlotte, the Lakers loved the potential they saw in Bryant before the draft and they needed to unload Vlade's contract to make room for Shaq.

[Samurai Swoosh]

don't play dumb. It was you that said Kobe went to a team that already had a top 5 player, making it seemed that he took the easy way out. And I corrected you by saying he was a Laker a week or two before Shaq. I've read you're posts in this thread. Don't try to twist things.
A week or two before Shaq? I'm not saying he went there because of Shaq. I'm saying the reason he had the table set to win rings so early in his career was because he forced a trade to an established franchise, who then had a top five player in the game. Thus the greater opportunity to win sooner. You disagree with that?

[AlphaWolf24]

Not really ... nor did he swagger jack him. Kobe tries to do everything like Jordan. Brent Barry commented on how he saw Kobe watching hours of tape of Jordan studying him. He tried doing interviews like him, celebrates like him. He tries to have "flu games" like Jordan. He tried to replicate the "he can't guard me" game. Jumps on score tables when they win the ring @ home ... JUST like Jordan.

C'mon now son ...

It's creepy.

:oldlol:

Jordan .....Freethrow line Dunk...Jacked from Dr.J....

Jordan tried the Mini Fro.....went Bald at 20 years old...Failed jack

Jordan reverse layup in Mid air while up and under ......Jacked

Jordan palming the ball to fake or palming to "rock the cradle"....Jacked

Jordan handling the media Jacked straight from Dr.J

Jordan trying wifey up a red bone dime like Dr.J....failed Jack...MJ ended up with a monster.

[Premeditated]

Jordan also said that he would retire if Pippen wasn't resigned or if Pippen was traded. He probably knew he wouldn't be able to dominate without Pippen doing all the dirty work.

[Samurai Swoosh]

Kobe didn't refuse to play for Charlotte, the Lakers loved the potential they saw in Bryant before the draft and they needed to unload Vlade's contract to make room for Shaq.
Not true ...

He threatened to not play for anyone besides the Lakers. The Nets were gonna draft him until he let them know he didn't wanna play for them. So they took Kerry Kittles and said screw you Kobe. Charlotte took him and I think they were gonna force him to play or use him as trade bait because he was too talented to pass up. Jerry West hounded them and pulled a trade. Either way it came down to Kobe putting it out there to lottery teams he had no interest in playing for them while the Lakers tried to swing deals.

[AlphaWolf24]

A week or two before Shaq? I'm not saying he went there because of Shaq. I'm saying the reason he had the table set to win rings so early in his career was because he forced a trade to an established franchise, who then had a top five player in the game. Thus the greater opportunity to win sooner. You disagree with that?


but again...Shaq was not a Laker!!...and Kobe had No knowlege of Shaq coming to the Lakers!!


so your saying....Kobe want's to go to L.A. to play with Anthony Peeler and Elden Cambell??:lol

stop it already.....



Full retard.....yeah.....you went there.

[Samurai Swoosh]

Jordan also said that he would retire if Pippen wasn't resigned or if Pippen was traded. He probably knew he wouldn't be able to dominate without Pippen doing all the dirty work.
Yea that was during the 2nd three peat when Krause was threatning to break it all up. Krause was being the bad guy. MJ stood up for Scottie and for Phil. Krause wanted to get rid of Phil for years. Jordan threatned to retire if they got rid of him too, which Krause wanted to do. Why would Jordan not want to keep together a team that just won 4 or 5 rings? He was in his mid 30's. He wasn't about to stay on to a team that was going to re-build. HE stood up for his long time teammate and coach. That's quite loyal, but LOL @ you trying to spin it in the opposite direction.

Jordan threatned retirement in a selfless act. Not a SELFISH act.

[Premeditated]

A week or two before Shaq? I'm not saying he went there because of Shaq. I'm saying the reason he had the table set to win rings so early in his career was because he forced a trade to an established franchise, who then had a top five player in the game. Thus the greater opportunity to win sooner. You disagree with that?
The Lakers were an average team before he got there and all through the end of the 90s. They were The Carmelo Era Denver Nuggets.

And don't act like you didn't make it seem like Shaq was the man in LA before Kobe got there. Stop it 5.

[Ne 1]

A week or two before Shaq? I'm not saying he went there because of Shaq. I'm saying the reason he had the table set to win rings so early in his career was because he forced a trade to an established franchise, who then had a top five player in the game. Thus the greater opportunity to win sooner. You disagree with that?

And it wasn't until Kobe developed into an elite player that Shaq won that elusive championship, despite playing on a stacked team in Orlando and having an All-Star back court with Eddie Jones/Nick Van Exel,

Shaq played in the NBA for 19 seasons, he won 4 rings. He wasn't some automatic championship.

[Samurai Swoosh]

so your saying....Kobe want's to go to L.A. to play with Anthony Peeler and Elden Cambell??:lol
And Nick Van Excel, and Eddie Jones ...

Idiot.

:facepalm

Point is they had pieces to win or compete immedietly.

Charlotte wasn't a championship franchise like the Lakers.

Why wouldn't he just have gone to the Nets or Hornets, the two teams that were originally going to draft him?

It was a selfish move, by an arrogant rookie.

[Ne 1]

Jerry West traded to get Kobe and the trade was made in advance, in order to unload Vlade's contract to sign Shaq.

All Kobe did was turn off workouts once he got a promise from LA. That is completely different.



"The deal was actually done a day ahead of time, and it was Vlade for a player to be named," said Bill Branch, the Hornets' head scout at the time who still operates out of Charlotte as a scout for the Seattle-now-Oklahoma City Sonics. "If I remember right, they didn't even tell us who they wanted us to pick until about five minutes before the pick was made. So it was never a matter of us actually drafting Kobe.""
In order to get far enough under the salary cap to make a valid pitch to O'Neal, the Lakers needed to unload Divac's contract, preferably to a team under the salary cap and preferably for a draft pick. The Hornets had traded Alonzo Mourning the previous year, were without a bona fide center, and were well under the cap after renouncing the rights to free agent Kenny Anderson. They would trade Larry Johnson to New York for Anthony Mason later that summer.
The Hornets reasoned that they could come out of the draft with no better than Vitaly Potapenko or Todd Fuller if they drafted a center, and jumped at the chance to trade the 13th pick for Divac.
"When you look back at it, when we made that trade, here was a 17-year-old kid who had played in high school," said Bob Bass, the Hornets' executive vice president of basketball operations at the time. "Twelve other teams passed on him. We made a decision to win now and not later. We had Dave Cowens as our first-year coach, and I wanted to give him a chance to win. I knew if we got Divac in here, we'd win. I didn't feel the same about Bryant. Without Divac, I thought we might have won 25 games."

The Hornets won 54 games, then a franchise record, the next season with Divac.

[AlphaWolf24]

The Lakers were an average team before he got there and all through the end of the 90s. They were The Carmelo Era Denver Nuggets.

And don't act like you didn't make it seem like Shaq was the man in LA before Kobe got there. Stop it 5.


no but they had a "pedigree"........

[Premeditated]

Yea that was during the 2nd three peat when Krause was threatning to break it all up. Krause was being the bad guy. MJ stood up for Scottie and for Phil. Krause wanted to get rid of Phil for years. Jordan threatned to retire if they got rid of him too, which Krause wanted to do. Why would Jordan not want to keep together a team that just won 4 or 5 rings? He was in his mid 30's. He wasn't about to stay on to a team that was going to re-build. HE stood up for his long time teammate and coach. That's quite loyal, but LOL @ you trying to spin it in the opposite direction.

Jordan threatned retirement in a selfless act. Not a SELFISH act.
No ma'am that is what you've been doing all throughout this entire thread. You manage to spin a thread about Lebron's lack of ring, into personal subliminals about Kobe.

[Samurai Swoosh]

No ma'am that is what you've been doing all throughout this entire thread. You manage to spin a thread about Lebron's lack of ring, into personal subliminals about Kobe.
Negative ... I was tempering the ridiculous notion of why Kobe won rings so early.

And it's the same reason Wade won so early.

They both had Shaq.

:oldlol:

Carry on though ...

[AlphaWolf24]

And Nick Van Excel, and Eddie Jones ...

Idiot.

:facepalm

Point is they had pieces to win or compete immedietly.

Charlotte wasn't a championship franchise like the Lakers.

Why wouldn't he just have gone to the Nets or Hornets, the two teams that were originally going to draft him?

It was a selfish move, by an arrogant rookie.

Eddie Jones???....so he wants to go to a team with a recognized player at his same position???.....Nick Van Exel?



wouldn't it make more sense for a selfish player t
o go to a team where he will get lots of playing time and be star right away without having to fight for his position?

[AlphaWolf24]

Negative ... I was tempering the ridiculous notion of why Kobe won rings so early.

And it's the same reason Wade won so early.

They both had Shaq.

:oldlol:

Carry on though ...


so why didn't penny win in 1995?....why didn't Wade win in 2005?......

[Premeditated]

And Nick Van Excel, and Eddie Jones ...

Idiot.

:facepalm

Point is they had pieces to win or compete immedietly.

Charlotte wasn't a championship franchise like the Lakers.

Why wouldn't he just have gone to the Nets or Hornets, the two teams that were originally going to draft him?

It was a selfish move, by an arrogant rookie.
Your dumbass is making it seem as if Kobe went to a championship caliber team and that the team was already established with big stars. at first you made it seem like Shaq was already there putting in work months before.

Nick Van Exel?

Eddie Jones?

really?

yes please :facepalm yourself.

[LA_Showtime]

Not true ...

He threatened to not play for anyone besides the Lakers. The Nets were gonna draft him until he let them know he didn't wanna play for them. So they took Kerry Kittles and said screw you Kobe. Charlotte took him and I think they were gonna force him to play or use him as trade bait because he was too talented to pass up. Jerry West hounded them and pulled a trade. Either way it came down to Kobe putting it out there to lottery teams he had no interest in playing for them while the Lakers tried to swing deals.

I would say he bluffed on that one. Kobe loves basketball; can you really see him sitting out the season because he's not happy with the city he was drafted to? Then again, Kobe is also extremely stubborn...

[LA_Showtime]

:oldlol: @ Van Exel and Jones being mentioned as all-stars. Neither guy was much of an impact player. Jones was a solid veteran who could shoot and play solid defense. Van Exel was a streaky shooter who would've excelled off the bench (think Jason Terry or Jamal Crawford).

[The Iron Fist]

You're getting ultra defensive, kiddo.

No where here am I saying Kobe wasn't BALLIN. LOL ... at the defensive nature of you. I'm saying the real reason Kobe was in such a great position to win early was because he forced his way to a team that was already really talented, and happened to already have a top five player. Of course he developed over the coure of 3 seasons, and won it in his 4th. The year Shaq won MVP, and the only year he truly went HAM. Kobe was a sidekick that year, then the next year Kobe raised his game to another level.

I'm just saying. Wade won it in his 3rd year. Why did Wade win it in his 3rd year, bro?

Answer the question ... because its the same reason Kobe was able to win so quickly.

lol at this shit. You're really saying, that a 17 year old kid, punked every gm, coach, player and the commissioner and the entire NBA by picking which team he wanted to be on?


Really? Thats what you're saying?

[Ne 1]

I would say he bluffed on that one. Kobe loves basketball; can you really see him sitting out the season because he's not happy with the city he was drafted to? Then again, Kobe is also extremely stubborn...

Here is the story behind that:

[QUOTE]Game-changing decision By Dan Wetzel

NEWARK, N.J.

[AlphaWolf24]

And Nick Van Excel, and Eddie Jones ...

Idiot.

:facepalm

Point is they had pieces to win or compete immedietly.

Charlotte wasn't a championship franchise like the Lakers.

Why wouldn't he just have gone to the Nets or Hornets, the two teams that were originally going to draft him?

It was a selfish move, by an arrogant rookie.

:lol you calling me an Idiot.....

you actually think 18 year old Kobe paired with Elden Cambell and Nick Van Excell is having the pieces to "contended imediatly"..


I sure hope your trolling...

[AlphaWolf24]

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F
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Dwyane Wade
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Sun Yue


"post of the year" contender right here.......:applause:

[The Iron Fist]

Here is the story behind that:


Thats BS and you, I and we all know it.

Joe and Mama Bryant were both behind West as he shouted from the stands. Both had guns on him. Joe had one on the liver, Mama had hers on his neck.

They forced the Lakers to draft Kobe. Or else, people were going to die and the league as it was back then, would never recover from a 17 year old son of a former scrub not getting drafted.

[$LakerGold]

Slava Medvendenko

[LA_Showtime]

Obviously I have no idea what Kobe would have done had he been drafted by Charlotte and not traded, but I can only assume he would have shut up and played basketball. This is a man who has spent 15 (going on 16) years in the NBA dedicating his mind and body to becoming an elite player. He's put in countless hours in the gym... hell, he went to Germany and bought a ridiculous machine that's supposed to help with arthritis and other body ailments. The dude genuinely loves basketball. Kobe has ALWAYS pushed the limit; he's always tried to get away with more than he should. He took a gamble, told teams to stay away, and it worked, period.

[The Iron Fist]

Btw, Mike Smrek has more rings than Lebron.

[AlphaWolf24]

Thats BS and you, I and we all know it.

Joe and Mama Bryant were both behind West as he shouted from the stands. Both had guns on him. Joe had one on the liver, Mama had hers on his neck.

They forced the Lakers to draft Kobe. Or else, people were going to die and the league as it was back then, would never recover from a 17 year old son of a former scrub not getting drafted.

:roll: dang...this thread delivers

[$LakerGold]

Thats BS and you, I and we all know it.

Joe and Mama Bryant were both behind West as he shouted from the stands. Both had guns on him. Joe had one on the liver, Mama had hers on his neck.

They forced the Lakers to draft Kobe. Or else, people were going to die and the league as it was back then, would never recover from a 17 year old son of a former scrub not getting drafted.
:facepalm Dumbass, Hornets drafted Kobe. Kids these days.

[The Iron Fist]

Obviously I have no idea what Kobe would have done had he been drafted by Charlotte and not traded, but I can only assume he would have shut up and played basketball. This is a man who has spent 15 (going on 16) years in the NBA dedicating his mind and body to becoming an elite player. He's put in countless hours in the gym... hell, he went to Germany and bought a ridiculous machine that's supposed to help with arthritis and other body ailments. The dude genuinely loves basketball. Kobe has ALWAYS pushed the limit; he's always tried to get away with more than he should. He took a gamble, told teams to stay away, and it worked, period.


Oh c'mon. Be real about it. Everyone knows that if Joe and Mama didn't stick up Jerry West, Kobe would have been playing soccer in Europe for the past 15 years.

[The Iron Fist]

:facepalm Dumbass, Hornets drafted Kobe. Kids these days.


No, Kobe forced his way to LA. Kobe made Charlotte draft him, then trade him to LA. Kobe forced LA to make Charlotte draft him and then ship him to LA.

Thats how much power a 17 year old son of a former NBA scrub had in 1996.

[AlphaWolf24]

this guy has more rings then Lebron....http://www.uconnhooplegends.com/images_menslegends/KnightTravis.jpg..nevermind...UCONN Legend right there.

[Ne 1]

this guy has more rings then Lebron....http://www.uconnhooplegends.com/images_menslegends/KnightTravis.jpg..nevermind...UCONN Legend right there.

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/gallery/02nbafinals/14madsen.jpg

That guy with the white Lakers t-shirt has more rings than LeBron.

[The Iron Fist]

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/gallery/02nbafinals/14madsen.jpg

That guy with the white Lakers t-shirt has more rings than LeBron.
Gary Vitti has more rings than Lebron.

The Mavs towel boys have more rings than Lebron.

[Premeditated]

that dumbass Jordan stan hasn't posted since Ne 1 came and shut sh1t down. Sad because that was basically what his whole argument was about.

but I'm sure he's gonna come up with the excuse about him not being on the internet all day.

[the_wise_one]

You guys better watch it - he's taking mental notes.

[Ne 1]

King James?

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lflbnp5qHm1qb5heyo1_500.jpg

[AlphaWolf24]

that dumbass Jordan stan hasn't posted since Ne 1 came and shut sh1t down. Sad because that was basically what his whole argument was about.

but I'm sure he's gonna come up with the excuse about him not being on the internet all day.
:lol ....once you guys told him that Shaq wasn't on the Lakers when Kobe was drafted.....he bounced:roll:

[Ne 1]

You guys better watch it - he's taking mental notes.

“Don’t think for one minute that I haven’t been taking mental notes of everyone taking shots at me this summer. And I mean everyone!”


:roll:

[Ne 1]

http://www.albany.com/byesline/check%20my%20stats2.jpg

[AlphaWolf24]

http://guyism.com/wp-content/uploads/ferry.jpg

yup...more rings...

[DJ Leon Smith]

http://nbadownunder.com/v1/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/gaze111.jpg

[L8kersfan222]

R.I.P Samurai Swoosh

[R.I.P.]

edit: nobody at all at Q and Z?

Is Richardson a free agent, has Ilgauskas re-signed with the Heat yet. :lol

[BGriffin's Dad]

Updated for 2012


Mark Madsen
Adam Morrison
Brian Shaw
Rick Fox
Devean George
Sasha Vujacic
Bruce Bowen
Derek Fisher
Robert Horry
Luke Walton
Jordan Farmar
Stanislav Medvedenko
Malik Rose
Beno Udrih
Udonis Haslem
James Posey
Sam Cassell
B.J. Armstrong
Stacey King
Bill Cartwright
Randy Brown
Jason Caffey
Will Perdue
Luc Longley
John Salley
Bill Wennington
Jud Buechler
Dickey Simpkins
John Paxson

[DFish]

Updated for 2012


Mark Madsen
Adam Morrison
Brian Shaw
Rick Fox
Devean George
Sasha Vujacic
Bruce Bowen
Derek Fisher
Robert Horry
Luke Walton
Jordan Farmar
Stanislav Medvedenko
Malik Rose
Beno Udrih


Add Udonis Haslem, James Posey, Sam Cassell, B.J. Armstrong, Stacey King, Bill Cartwright, Will Perdue, Luc Longley, John Salley, Bill Wennington.

[BGriffin's Dad]

added... any others?