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rezznor
05-18-2011, 05:08 PM
[QUOTE]Barkley: I had gay teammates

kaiiu
05-18-2011, 05:11 PM
:facepalm :facepalm

D.J.
05-18-2011, 05:15 PM
He's right. No one will come out as an active player, but there are gay players. As for Chuck's playing days, Hersey Hawkins is the first that comes to mind.

rezznor
05-18-2011, 05:17 PM
i'm thinking francis/mobley

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/1009/media.day.history/images/francis-mobley.jpg

D.J.
05-18-2011, 05:19 PM
i'm thinking francis/mobley


Them too, but I was going back to his Philly days. Could have sworn Hawkins was just as flaming as Francis/Mobley.

CelticBaller
05-18-2011, 05:20 PM
Charles should of expose them

Quizno
05-18-2011, 05:33 PM
lol i love ish. it took only a few minutes for this to turn into a gay witch hunt :oldlol:

Legend of Josh
05-18-2011, 05:37 PM
Doug Christie ... well maybe he just has Medicode syndrome.

njeshizzle
05-18-2011, 05:51 PM
"First of all, society discriminates against gay people," Barkley said. "They always try to make it like jocks discriminate against gay people. I've been a big proponent of gay marriage for a long time, because as a black person, I can't be in for any form of discrimination at all."

Charles Barkley needs to take a basic philosophy class. The majority of people who are are pro-gay marriage are so because they fear being labeled as bigoted and/or associated with the same racist mindset that was prevalent in the United States prior to the civil war and so forth.

1st: You are discriminating by not discriminating (i.e. you're discriminating against not discriminating) conceptually there is no such thing being absolutely implicit since that would include its contrary (i.e. explicitness and thus result in a contradiction, basic logic.

2nd. Gay Marriage Activist have done a wonderful marketing job of running behind the banner of inequality and associating themselves with other minority groups (e.g. African-Americans) which have been unjustly discriminated against in the past. A form of association via analogy. I personally don't see the entailment from one analogy to other other. There are too many different variables. The only thing they share in common is discrimination but discrimination in itself is neither just or unjust. You have to find other grounds of arguing why gay marriage should be made legal.

niko
05-18-2011, 05:55 PM
:facepalm :facepalm
how so? he just said its no big deal. you think it is? you know you probably run into gay people in your everday life, right?

ProfessorMurder
05-18-2011, 05:55 PM
"First of all, society discriminates against gay people," Barkley said. "They always try to make it like jocks discriminate against gay people. I've been a big proponent of gay marriage for a long time, because as a black person, I can't be in for any form of discrimination at all."

Charles Barkley needs to take a basic philosophy class. The majority of people who are are pro-gay marriage are so because they fear being labeled as bigoted and/or associated with the same racist mindset that was prevalent in the United States prior to the civil war and so forth.

1st: You are discriminating by not discriminating (i.e. you're discriminating against not discriminating) conceptually there is no such thing being absolutely implicit since that would include its contrary (i.e. explicitness and thus result in a contradiction, basic logic.

2nd. Gay Marriage Activist have done a wonderful marketing job of running behind the banner of inequality and associating themselves with other minority groups (e.g. African-Americans) which have been unjustly discriminated against in the past. A form of association via analogy. I personally don't see the entailment from one analogy to other other. There are too many different variables. The only thing they share in common is discrimination but discrimination in itself is neither just or unjust. You have to find other grounds of arguing why gay marriage should be made legal.

Hey what's up? I've always been curious about something...



How does it feel to be a retard?

njeshizzle
05-18-2011, 06:05 PM
Hey what's up? I've always been curious about something...



How does it feel to be a retard?

Im not entirely sure. Im certain if you did some self-inspection and self-reflection that you may come to a definite answer.

Calabis
05-18-2011, 06:05 PM
good for charles :applause:

hell good for u'r avatar:applause:

Myth
05-18-2011, 06:07 PM
Good for Chuck. I'm hoping to see an active player come out and get a lot of support.

pete's montreux
05-18-2011, 06:10 PM
Im not entirely sure. Im certain if you did some self-inspection and self-reflection that you may come to a definite answer.

You really think a retard is capable of self-reflection?

GOOD ONE

njeshizzle
05-18-2011, 06:16 PM
You really think a retard is capable of self-reflection?

GOOD ONE

Umm yeah they're not comatose. People who are autistic have an incredible intelligence.

ProfessorMurder
05-18-2011, 06:16 PM
Im not entirely sure. Im certain if you did some self-inspection and self-reflection that you may come to a definite answer.

Nah I've done that and realized that the only way to the truth is to speak with a true retarded individual. Try as I might, I just can't make my brain function at the low level that you're capable of.

Jasper
05-18-2011, 06:17 PM
Chuck has played on so many teams its hard to nail down just who dat was :lol

pete's montreux
05-18-2011, 06:19 PM
Umm yeah they're not comatose. People who are autistic have an incredible intelligence.

Yes, in areas like math and science. They're completely devoid of any knowledge of self or social situations. Ask an autistic person to reflect on ANYTHING and see where it gets you.

sportsfan76
05-18-2011, 06:20 PM
I knew hershey hawkins was gay-lol

LA_Showtime
05-18-2011, 06:31 PM
I agree with Charles, but he's kind of stereotyping since he's just assuming certain players he played with were gay because of the mannerisms or whatever. :oldlol:

niko
05-18-2011, 06:36 PM
I agree with Charles, but he's kind of stereotyping since he's just assuming certain players he played with were gay because of the mannerisms or whatever. :oldlol:
where did you get that from? He didn't seem to imply that at all.

Gundress
05-18-2011, 06:40 PM
Why did he make that statement? Somebody come out of closet or what?

I mean....why did he have to say it?

What's going on...am I missing something or what?

LA_Showtime
05-18-2011, 06:41 PM
where did you get that from? He didn't seem to imply that at all.

He never said, "Player X told me he was gay." All he said was he assumed he played with gay players and that he didn't care about their sexual orientation.

Myth
05-18-2011, 06:50 PM
He never said, "Player X told me he was gay." All he said was he assumed he played with gay players and that he didn't care about their sexual orientation.

You are assuming that Chuck is assuming. He never said that "Player X told me he was gay," but he also never said "Player X seemed gay to me." It is very likely that a player confided in Barkley his sexual orientation.

Rose
05-18-2011, 06:53 PM
What? Chuck played for the Grizzlies?:wtf:

Zach Morris
05-18-2011, 06:53 PM
You are assuming that Chuck is assuming. He never said that "Player X told me he was gay," but he also never said "Player X seemed gay to me." It is very likely that a player confided in Barkley his sexual orientation.

You're assuming he's assuming Chuck's assuming. I think I read or heard that he actually said a player confided him regarding their sexual orientation before. Hmmm. I can't quite recall where I read/heard it.-rubs chin-

flipogb
05-18-2011, 06:54 PM
time to look at the rosters that Chuck played with !!!!!!

who is it ?!!!!

steve
05-18-2011, 06:58 PM
Why did he make that statement? Somebody come out of closet or what?

I mean....why did he have to say it?

What's going on...am I missing something or what?
He was asked about it. Most likely because he used to play for the Suns and Rick Welts was an Suns employee at the time as well. Barkley's also a guy whose not going to tip toe around a question.

knightfall88
05-18-2011, 06:58 PM
which is why I dont understand all the hate with Wade and Lebron getting together, what they do offcourt doesnt make them any less of a basketball player

KelticForce1349
05-18-2011, 07:05 PM
Thank goodness for guys like Sir Charles. I would really like to see some of ISH's self-appointed tough-guys tell Barkley that he is "weak" for supporting gay athletes. :roll:

Since the hatred of gays is so intense and so frequent here on InsideHomophobia, I can't help but wonder if any of you guys get as angry about other sexual attractions or "choices" that people make?

Seriously, where is all the outrage and hatred for people who molest children?

Do you guys that hate the gay "choice" get angry about people that like inter-racial sex? Do you ever need to stop yourself from bashing someone dating a midget? When you are at the porn shop getting ready to rent your copy of "Bring 'em Young 256" and you see the guy next to you peeping the latest version of "Inner-City Cheerleader 71" do you think to yourself; that guy is a scumbag! Do you?

flipogb
05-18-2011, 07:08 PM
which is why I dont understand all the hate with Wade and Lebron getting together, what they do offcourt doesnt make them any less of a basketball player
very subtle, nice one

SinJackal
05-18-2011, 07:16 PM
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RaceBannana
05-18-2011, 07:18 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhw9oz0YmB1qgjs8go1_500.jpg

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Eat Like A Bosh
05-18-2011, 08:04 PM
It's not illegal being gay though...

NewYorkNoPicks
05-19-2011, 02:04 AM
ehhh who cares. As long as they don't make any passes at me or inuendos...it shouldn't matter.

Clutch
05-19-2011, 02:09 AM
Good for Chuck. I'm hoping to see an active player come out and get a lot of support.
I'm not sure Chris Bosh has enough confidence to do that :oldlol:

G-train
05-19-2011, 02:15 AM
Why do men and women have seperate change rooms?
Should gay people have seperate change rooms?
Or should men and women share change rooms as its discriminatory?
Should a human who is attracted to a particular sex be allowed to change or go to the toilet with members of that sex?
It's not about personal opinion, its about what society deems ok. Who is society?
Is it ok for a man to watch a woman undress and to gain satisfaction from that?
Is it ok for a gay man to do the same?
Who decides what's ok?

Not hating, just posing questions.

G-train
05-19-2011, 02:17 AM
Where do cross dressers go to the toilet?

yo pleezebelieve where do you go to the toilet?

Bernie Nips
05-19-2011, 02:21 AM
Why do men and women have seperate change rooms?
Should gay people have seperate change rooms?
Or should men and women share change rooms as its discriminatory?
Should a human who is attracted to a particular sex be allowed to change or go to the toilet with members of that sex?
It's not about personal opinion, its about what society deems ok. Who is society?
Is it ok for a man to watch a woman undress and to gain satisfaction from that?
Is it ok for a gay man to do the same?
Who decides what's ok?

Not hating, just posing questions.

Wow, these questions aren't overdone to death or anything.

OMG DOES A GAY GUY GET TURNED ON BY LOOKIN AT HIS OWN *****?!?!?!

The reason men and women have different change rooms isn't to stop boners from happening, alright? It's so people are comfortable. If guys are comfortable showering with other guys, what should it matter their sexual preference? It changes nothing. Unless the dude is going around putting his face in their *****, it isn't even slightly an issue. And if he's doing that, he won't be on the team long.

Also: If guys are comfortable with showering with girls ogling them, what's the difference?

G-train
05-19-2011, 02:25 AM
Wow, these questions aren't overdone to death or anything.

OMG DOES A GAY GUY GET TURNED ON BY LOOKIN AT HIS OWN *****?!?!?!

The reason men and women have different change rooms isn't to stop boners from happening, alright? It's so people are comfortable. If guys are comfortable showering with other guys, what should it matter their sexual preference? It changes nothing. Unless the dude is going around putting his face in their *****, it isn't even slightly an issue. And if he's doing that, he won't be on the team long.

Also: If guys are comfortable with showering with girls ogling them, what's the difference?

What if you aren't comfortable?
What percentage of society would be comfortable to be looked at lustfully by a gay man while you shower in a change room?
Who says thats ok?

ukballer
05-19-2011, 02:58 AM
What if you aren't comfortable?
What percentage of society would be comfortable to be looked at lustfully by a gay man while you shower in a change room?
Who says thats ok?

Chances are, the gay player, whether they'd find you attractive or not, are always going to keep it on the down low.

They might just look at you lustfully in a more subtle way. :oldlol:

brantonli
05-19-2011, 03:09 AM
What if you aren't comfortable?
What percentage of society would be comfortable to be looked at lustfully by a gay man while you shower in a change room?
Who says thats ok?

Aren't you making the assumption that gay people changing in the same locker room must be looking at your lustfully? Just as not every single girl you meet is automatically attracted to you, so not every gay person is automatically attracted to every man.

El Kabong
05-19-2011, 05:14 AM
G-Train, have you ever actually spent any time around someone who's gay?

Joshumitsu
05-19-2011, 05:31 AM
Why do men and women have seperate change rooms?
Should gay people have seperate change rooms?
Or should men and women share change rooms as its discriminatory?
Should a human who is attracted to a particular sex be allowed to change or go to the toilet with members of that sex?
It's not about personal opinion, its about what society deems ok. Who is society?
Is it ok for a man to watch a woman undress and to gain satisfaction from that?
Is it ok for a gay man to do the same?
Who decides what's ok?

Not hating, just posing questions.

LOL.

You aren't talking about society. You're talking about your own homophobic insecurities.

Harion
05-19-2011, 05:45 AM
"First of all, society discriminates against gay people," Barkley said. "They always try to make it like jocks discriminate against gay people. I've been a big proponent of gay marriage for a long time, because as a black person, I can't be in for any form of discrimination at all."

Charles Barkley needs to take a basic philosophy class. The majority of people who are are pro-gay marriage are so because they fear being labeled as bigoted and/or associated with the same racist mindset that was prevalent in the United States prior to the civil war and so forth.

1st: You are discriminating by not discriminating (i.e. you're discriminating against not discriminating) conceptually there is no such thing being absolutely implicit since that would include its contrary (i.e. explicitness and thus result in a contradiction, basic logic.

2nd. Gay Marriage Activist have done a wonderful marketing job of running behind the banner of inequality and associating themselves with other minority groups (e.g. African-Americans) which have been unjustly discriminated against in the past. A form of association via analogy. I personally don't see the entailment from one analogy to other other. There are too many different variables. The only thing they share in common is discrimination but discrimination in itself is neither just or unjust. You have to find other grounds of arguing why gay marriage should be made legal.
those are great points. for a retard. too bad it makes no sense at all for those of us who have functioning brains. you use wonderful words. too bad it can't cover up the fact that you're stupid.

JtotheIzzo
05-19-2011, 05:58 AM
He's right. No one will come out as an active player, but there are gay players. As for Chuck's playing days, Hersey Hawkins is the first that comes to mind.

Mike Gminski and Gumby seem like more likely candidates.

PBJ_Time
05-19-2011, 07:56 AM
Aren't you making the assumption that gay people changing in the same locker room must be looking at your lustfully? Just as not every single girl you meet is automatically attracted to you, so not every gay person is automatically attracted to every man.
By using this logic, men and women should be able to shower together simply because not everyone is attracted to every member of the opposite sex. Personally, I wouldn't care as long as there weren't any continuous unwanted advances made towards me, but other people would care, and they wouldn't be wrong for that.

stephanieg
05-19-2011, 08:14 AM
Gay rights is sooo '80s.

Kinda weird how machismo street thug culture is all homophobic. Gayness is the ultimate in masculinity. They don't need women. If you need women you're a p*ssy. Live up to your lingo. Ask the ancient Greeks and Romans about that one.

Funnyfuka
05-19-2011, 08:25 AM
mmm gays are fighting for their own cause and hope they ll "convert" everyone to it, as do muslims etc. Life is a struggle, people are always trying to convert others people to their beliefs, behaviors, way of life etc. They arent as innocent or peaceful as they portray themselves to be. They are suffering from their -chosen- condition, and they think that everyone should become/be gay so everything would be better... for them. The fact they cant reproduce says it all.

Funnyfuka
05-19-2011, 08:27 AM
Gay rights is sooo '80s.

Kinda weird how machismo street thug culture is all homophobic. Gayness is the ultimate in masculinity. They don't need women. If you need women you're a p*ssy. Live up to your lingo. Ask the ancient Greeks and Romans about that one.
you mean they dont like women? Why?

Because most homosexuals have been raised by single mothers/sisters with no father figure? Then become homosexual, then suffer, and then ultimately reject women, mothers and only live with men? How comes they need women to adopt their kids or inseminate them?

How comes greeks and romans ABANDONNED homosexuality ?

CelticBaller
05-19-2011, 08:28 AM
Gay rights is sooo '80s.

Kinda weird how machismo street thug culture is all homophobic. Gayness is the ultimate in masculinity. They don't need women. If you need women you're a p*ssy. Live up to your lingo. Ask the ancient Greeks and Romans about that one.
*******

Funnyfuka
05-19-2011, 08:30 AM
All of these bullshits started with kobe bryant slur. Now there are gays ads and people like barkley adding their PC bullshits to enforce the marketing message of the nba trying to catter to the widest audience possible. They know more and more kids are raised by single mothers and know they re going to become gays, but need their "audience". it's all about marketing and money FIRST and foremost. Before Kobe's slur they couldnt care less... Now they have to adapt. Nice job kobe...

Hello, we didnt in the first place, and still dont need this shit. Has barkley something to tell us?

niko
05-19-2011, 08:51 AM
What if you aren't comfortable?
What percentage of society would be comfortable to be looked at lustfully by a gay man while you shower in a change room?
Who says thats ok?
Tell the team and then remove yourself from the shower. Or shower at a different time? YOu seem to be implying being gay is not ok because it may inconvenience you somehow. If blacks made me uncomfortable (they don't) should they not be allowed to work with me?

If you are uncomfortable with a situation remove yourself. It's not so hard.

I laugh sometimes because (not you necessarily) but people always say things like this because i think they assume the people around them are straight, because no one told them they are gay. Gays are 10% of the population. Do the math. If you are on a team especially with that many guys what is the chance no one is gay?

Qwertyazerty
05-19-2011, 10:26 AM
mmm gays are fighting for their own cause and hope they ll "convert" everyone to it, as do muslims etc. Life is a struggle, people are always trying to convert others people to their beliefs, behaviors, way of life etc. They arent as innocent or peaceful as they portray themselves to be. They are suffering from their -chosen- condition, and they think that everyone should become/be gay so everything would be better... for them. The fact they cant reproduce says it all.

Wow unbelievable!!!

Where's the zoo you live in? I mean, I live in Europe but I'm ready to travel around the world to see an ape able to comunicate... Wow so gay are not so inocent and peaceful??? Who in hell told you gay people where peaceful and inocent, are straight men peaceful and inocent???

niko
05-19-2011, 10:31 AM
All of these bullshits started with kobe bryant slur. Now there are gays ads and people like barkley adding their PC bullshits to enforce the marketing message of the nba trying to catter to the widest audience possible. They know more and more kids are raised by single mothers and know they re going to become gays, but need their "audience". it's all about marketing and money FIRST and foremost. Before Kobe's slur they couldnt care less... Now they have to adapt. Nice job kobe...

Hello, we didnt in the first place, and still dont need this shit. Has barkley something to tell us?
i like this post, it manages to be ignorant and incoherent at the same time. and the fact you edited it to try to make it more logical makes it even better.

dunksby
05-19-2011, 10:46 AM
All of these bullshits started with kobe bryant slur. Now there are gays ads and people like barkley adding their PC bullshits to enforce the marketing message of the nba trying to catter to the widest audience possible. They know more and more kids are raised by single mothers and know they re going to become gays, but need their "audience". it's all about marketing and money FIRST and foremost. Before Kobe's slur they couldnt care less... Now they have to adapt. Nice job kobe...

Hello, we didnt in the first place, and still dont need this shit. Has barkley something to tell us?
End your life now.

Rake2204
05-19-2011, 10:56 AM
Hey what's up? I've always been curious about something...

How does it feel to be a retard?

those are great points. for a retard. too bad it makes no sense at all for those of us who have functioning brains. you use wonderful words. too bad it can't cover up the fact that you're stupid.

i like this post, it manages to be ignorant and incoherent at the same time. and the fact you edited it to try to make it more logical makes it even better.

I'm not sure I would have responded quite in the same manner, but sometimes it's nice to see the ignorance called out on the spot like that.

joe
05-19-2011, 11:05 AM
"First of all, society discriminates against gay people," Barkley said. "They always try to make it like jocks discriminate against gay people. I've been a big proponent of gay marriage for a long time, because as a black person, I can't be in for any form of discrimination at all."

Charles Barkley needs to take a basic philosophy class. The majority of people who are are pro-gay marriage are so because they fear being labeled as bigoted and/or associated with the same racist mindset that was prevalent in the United States prior to the civil war and so forth.

1st: You are discriminating by not discriminating (i.e. you're discriminating against not discriminating) conceptually there is no such thing being absolutely implicit since that would include its contrary (i.e. explicitness and thus result in a contradiction, basic logic.

2nd. Gay Marriage Activist have done a wonderful marketing job of running behind the banner of inequality and associating themselves with other minority groups (e.g. African-Americans) which have been unjustly discriminated against in the past. A form of association via analogy. I personally don't see the entailment from one analogy to other other. There are too many different variables. The only thing they share in common is discrimination but discrimination in itself is neither just or unjust. You have to find other grounds of arguing why gay marriage should be made legal.

This is a bit off base. I think the rights of all people should be protected.. so if you're anti-gay, feel free to feel that way. But, it becomes discriminatory when they're not allowed the same rights as everyone else, i.e. marriage.

Just like, if you're racist, than okay, you're racist. But trying to make it a law that black people have to ride on the back of the bus, is discrimination.

Now, if a private business owner wants to make it so black people can't eat at their restaurant.. their right to do that should be protected. IMO.

It's all about not forcing your will on other people.

kaiiu
05-19-2011, 11:08 AM
*******
+ 1. 4 pages about f@ggots .

MontaHardaway
05-19-2011, 01:26 PM
Barkley's gay teammates:

Danny Ainge
David Robinson(played on Dream Team)
Scottie Pippen

Soundwave
05-19-2011, 01:32 PM
Good for Chuck, sometimes he says crazy things, but sometimes he has a way of cutting through the BS and just telling things in a no-nonsense manner.

Black Joker
05-19-2011, 01:41 PM
This is a bit off base. I think the rights of all people should be protected.. so if you're anti-gay, feel free to feel that way. But, it becomes discriminatory when they're not allowed the same rights as everyone else, i.e. marriage.

Just like, if you're racist, than okay, you're racist. But trying to make it a law that black people have to ride on the back of the bus, is discrimination.

Now, if a private business owner wants to make it so black people can't eat at their restaurant.. their right to do that should be protected. IMO.

It's all about not forcing your will on other people.

i was with you till about here. not that i agreed fully, but i see your point about not legislating your will onto others, but i can't get behind that bolded point. feel free to correct me if i'm wrong, but you're against discriminatory practices upheld through law, but not against discrimination in practice?

(this of course is not to say that you go around discriminating, i don't know either way, just trying to get your point, although the discussion of that would veer off the threads intended path, and probably would be better suited for the OTC)

heyhey
05-19-2011, 01:48 PM
i was with you till about here. not that i agreed fully, but i see your point about not legislating your will onto others, but i can't get behind that bolded point. feel free to correct me if i'm wrong, but you're against discriminatory practices upheld through law, but not against discrimination in practice?

(this of course is not to say that you go around discriminating, i don't know either way, just trying to get your point, although the discussion of that would veer off the threads intended path, and probably would be better suited for the OTC)

I think joe is making a similar point to what Ron/Rand Paul made about the civil rights movmement. he's against discriminative legislation by the government, a public instiution, but the right of private individuals to run their business supercedes the prevention of discrimination.

private individuals should have right to manage their private property as they desire basically.

I don't agree but that's the argument

Noble6-AC45
05-19-2011, 01:48 PM
i will never support same sex marriage but anyone can do what they want with their life

mentallooser
05-19-2011, 02:12 PM
I think joe is making a similar point to what Ron/Rand Paul made about the civil rights movmement. he's against discriminative legislation by the government, a public instiution, but the right of private individuals to run their business supercedes the prevention of discrimination.

private individuals should have right to manage their private property as they desire basically.

I don't agree but that's the argument

I agree with the argument in principle. The consequences of it are too cringeworthy though. I agree that thing shouldn't be forced on business owners. But there are a lot of screwed up people who run business establishments that make it necessary.

Sakkreth
05-19-2011, 02:15 PM
Memphis has atleast one obviously.

steve
05-19-2011, 02:18 PM
I agree with the argument in principle. The consequences of it are too cringeworthy though. I agree that thing shouldn't be forced on business owners. But there are a lot of screwed up people who run business establishments that make it necessary.
The idea that someone exclude a person from being allowed in their establishment based on something arbitrary like the color of their skin is mind blowingly dumb and insulting. Sure people should be allowed to run their business how they want, but not at the cost of debasing another person, that's just basic human rights.

Dasher
05-19-2011, 02:24 PM
Memphis has atleast one obviously.
Who?

ronniec
05-19-2011, 03:05 PM
Sir Charles is right... what is more important??? sexual preference and basketball ability?
I like him being honest, always.

Rake2204
05-19-2011, 03:06 PM
Who?
I assumed he was talking about this guy:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cgvZ8uzvTA0/TYjDv7FVaiI/AAAAAAAAYzM/g9bzEEIJesE/s1600/Rudy-Gay.jpg

Myth
05-19-2011, 04:19 PM
This is a bit off base. I think the rights of all people should be protected.. so if you're anti-gay, feel free to feel that way. But, it becomes discriminatory when they're not allowed the same rights as everyone else, i.e. marriage.

Just like, if you're racist, than okay, you're racist. But trying to make it a law that black people have to ride on the back of the bus, is discrimination.

Now, if a private business owner wants to make it so black people can't eat at their restaurant.. their right to do that should be protected. IMO.

It's all about not forcing your will on other people.

I whole heartedly disagree. What if the NBA decided to ban black people from joining the league? Or attending their games?

Myth
05-19-2011, 04:21 PM
I think Chuck finally became a role model.

PBJ_Time
05-19-2011, 04:32 PM
The idea that someone exclude a person from being allowed in their establishment based on something arbitrary like the color of their skin is mind blowingly dumb and insulting. Sure people should be allowed to run their business how they want, but not at the cost of debasing another person, that's just basic human rights.
But it's not, really. If it's a private business, the owner should be allowed to run it as he/she pleases, no matter how stupid it may be. I can't think of too many worse business decisions, however, than not allowing a certain race into your establishment.

One shouldn't be forced to allow everyone into their establishment. That's infringing on their rights. It's a private business...not government affiliated.

PBJ_Time
05-19-2011, 04:35 PM
I whole heartedly disagree. What if the NBA decided to ban black people from joining the league? Or attending their games?
Then that would probably be THE dumbest business decision ever known to man and the NBA would likely cease to exist. I think societal pressure is more than adequate.

AMISTILLILL
05-19-2011, 04:58 PM
I love how the myth about homosexuals somehow being sex crazed lunatics or something continues to permeate even today. Like gay people literally can't exist in normal society without going around trying to make passes at and sleep with everything of the same sex that moves. People observe the stereotypes in movies and television (overtly effeminate, catty, sexually permissive, flamboyant) and make outlandish, broad generalizations about the entire lot. Watching "Cops" and seeing slews of black people arrested for various things doesn't justify the "all black people are criminals" idea. Not entirely sure how and why people are so threatened by a group of individuals who live just like them in practically every other facet of day-to-day life outside of who they're attracted to.

This is coming from a dude with an unblemished record of heterosexuality. No 'closet case' garbage about it. It's not otherworldly to practice tolerance for people who lead different lives outside of 'the norm'. Props to Barkley for bringing the real talk.

Soothing Layup
05-19-2011, 05:03 PM
"Hell, Some days my teammates would just play nude during practice." WTF? SMH

niko
05-19-2011, 05:43 PM
I whole heartedly disagree. What if the NBA decided to ban black people from joining the league? Or attending their games?
Are people ****ing joking? Let's discriminate because that right needs to be protected? Really? Are people ****ing kidding? Is this 1950?

:facepalm Anyone who watches the NBa with how multicultural it is, and how little white it is, and sits there thinking "Discrimination is ok" has me shaking my head.

niko
05-19-2011, 05:47 PM
I love how the myth about homosexuals somehow being sex crazed lunatics or something continues to permeate even today. Like gay people literally can't exist in normal society without going around trying to make passes at and sleep with everything of the same sex that moves. People observe the stereotypes in movies and television (overtly effeminate, catty, sexually permissive, flamboyant) and make outlandish, broad generalizations about the entire lot. Watching "Cops" and seeing slews of black people arrested for various things doesn't justify the "all black people are criminals" idea. Not entirely sure how and why people are so threatened by a group of individuals who live just like them in practically every other facet of day-to-day life outside of who they're attracted to.

This is coming from a dude with an unblemished record of heterosexuality. No 'closet case' garbage about it. It's not otherworldly to practice tolerance for people who lead different lives outside of 'the norm'. Props to Barkley for bringing the real talk.
i've known quite a few gay people in my life and none have made a pass at me. Do people who worry about this live in constant danger of random women jumping on them? Because it's about the same expecting some random dude to jump on you.

I'm with Barkley, whoever can help me i'm ok with. I'm also ok with if someone is bothered by someone being gay, them removing themselve from said event. (If there is a team, and one person is gay, and because of that YOU quit the team that's fine. it's backwards, it's strange to me, but that is your right. What is not your right to decide that you can't take it, so you want the person excluded, and you included.)

Kyle_korver
05-19-2011, 07:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSyRhlGae-M

what if this really happen :roll:

Laimbeer_Rodman
05-22-2011, 07:10 AM
Mike Gminski and Gumby seem like more likely candidates.
wouldn't it be hysterical to turn out that Rick Mahorn was gay?

LJJ
05-22-2011, 07:39 AM
But it's not, really. If it's a private business, the owner should be allowed to run it as he/she pleases, no matter how stupid it may be. I can't think of too many worse business decisions, however, than not allowing a certain race into your establishment.

One shouldn't be forced to allow everyone into their establishment. That's infringing on their rights. It's a private business...not government affiliated.

Having a private business does not mean you can do whatever you want and are exempt from the constitution. (or should be) :oldlol: Damn thanks for the laugh of the day son, you are a bonafide idiot.