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pete's montreux
10-12-2010, 08:45 PM
Should've been an offensive foul as he was trying to take a charge under the basket, It's called blocking, he sits up and gives the ref a look, and gets a T.

Yep, this NBA season is going to be grand. :rolleyes:

N0Skillz
10-12-2010, 08:48 PM
I might not even watch if it gets to bullshitty

BlackWhiteGreen
10-12-2010, 08:55 PM
Should've been an offensive foul as he was trying to take a charge under the basket, It's called blocking, he sits up and gives the ref a look, and gets a T.

Yep, this NBA season is going to be grand. :rolleyes:

Imagine if Sheed was still playing :oldlol: he'd lose all his salary on fines.

TennesseeFan
10-12-2010, 08:59 PM
David Stern is a ****ing ******.

wakencdukest
10-12-2010, 10:06 PM
That's lame. You should be able to look at the refs all you want. This season should set the all time record for technical fouls.

bagelred
10-12-2010, 10:13 PM
Link?

Willkill24
10-12-2010, 10:13 PM
Smh :facepalm

SixthMan
10-12-2010, 10:23 PM
REALLY not looking forward to watching the nba this season if this is where its going.

i know many of us watch basketball for the battles and the passion the players show and removing all emotion from the game is horrendously wrong and damaging to the game

i understand sometimes things can get out of hand and technicals are warranted but this is rediculous.

what was wrong with how technicals were handled in the 80's/90's?

LA_Showtime
10-12-2010, 10:25 PM
Pure comedy. So many late night shows are going to make fun of this shit. I can only begin to imagine what Charles, Kenny, and EJ will say. They'll probably make up a skit. :oldlol:

BTW, 'Sheed definitely needs to come back. He would get ejected from every single game.

LA_Showtime
10-12-2010, 10:26 PM
Anyways, why is Stern trying to turn the NBA into a socialism experiment? Someone needs to take him out.

alwaysunny
10-12-2010, 10:36 PM
Just so you guys know it already has happened to Sheed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in-W5OuCmS4

Premeditated
10-12-2010, 10:47 PM
what else is new? this is just another plot to put the successful black man in his place. seriously, if the league was filled with white players half these half assed and forced rule would be put in place. its like Stern wants to wants to NBA to have no swag.

G-train
10-12-2010, 11:07 PM
he sits up and gives the ref a look, and gets a T.


I need to see the footage as I find this hard to believe.

StroShow4
10-12-2010, 11:17 PM
I remember at the beginning of the 05/06 season (I think) they tried this whole strict with the technicals thing. Guys were getting T'd up like crazy for the first week or so, T'd up for damn near nothing. I remember Fransisco Elson getting one for screaming as he dunked the ball. It was completely retarded, everyone knew it, and the league gave up with it pretty damn fast. They need to think back to that sh!t and realize that this will suck.

bagelred
10-12-2010, 11:29 PM
what else is new? this is just another plot to put the successful black man in his place. seriously, if the league was filled with white players half these half assed and forced rule would be put in place. its like Stern wants to wants to NBA to have no swag.

So what's the problem?

SinJackal
10-12-2010, 11:31 PM
Any vid or picture of the look? If he's glaring at him like he's going to beat his ass or something, getting T'd up makes sense.

If just normal look, yeah it's bullshit. Joe Crawford's going to have a field day this season.

FinishHim!
10-12-2010, 11:38 PM
Pure comedy. So many late night shows are going to make fun of this shit. I can only begin to imagine what Charles, Kenny, and EJ will say. They'll probably make up a skit. :oldlol:

BTW, 'Sheed definitely needs to come back. He would get ejected from every single game.

Yeah. Sheed invented the "looking at ref" technical.

Harison
10-13-2010, 12:11 AM
As I saw it, JO just gave ref surprised look since he hoped for the charge to be called, and got T'd, thats just plain stupid. From now on players cant even look at refs, running by? Cover your eyes! :oldlol:

Does anyone remember how slaves couldnt even look at their masters, or they got whipped? Stern is heading to the same direction.

icewill36
10-13-2010, 12:20 AM
i dont understand how stern thinks this is a good idea when pretty much any fan will tell you that is not the way they want the game officiated.

alwaysunny
10-13-2010, 12:33 AM
Does anyone remember how slaves couldnt even look at their masters, or they got whipped? Stern is heading to the same direction.

Considering we weren't born in the 1800s, I doubt it.

coin24
10-13-2010, 12:45 AM
I dont get sterns angle with things like this..

I mean, most fans would prefer the league to be like it was in the 80s/90s. Fierce rivalries and teams genuinely hating each other.. Not all the guys being best buddys, and "Oh we're losing by 30 nevermind" attitudes..

I want to see passion and anger etc when guys are on the court.. Not these lame ass touch fouls and technicals for showing any emotion.

Also its disgusting how players are blackballed from the league because stern doesnt approve. This guy needs to be replaced asap:mad: :mad:

Premeditated
10-13-2010, 12:51 AM
So what's the problem?
the problem is these hard working athletes are bringing Stern millions of dollars and yet hes acting like some kind of totalitarian. he puts all these rules in tack so he can keep the black athletes on a leash.

SinJackal
10-13-2010, 12:55 AM
Korver just got T'd up today too for touching his elbow while looking at a ref when he got fouled, to say hey, he hit my elbow.

I guess you can't look at or speak to refs now without getting T'd up. So you apparently can't make ANY complaints whatsoever.

This is a stupid rule change.

White Chocolate
10-13-2010, 12:57 AM
Just so you guys know it already has happened to Sheed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in-W5OuCmS4


That was actually the first thing that came to mind.

I don't know what Stern is trying to prove, but he's going to lose fans pretty quickly if he's ordering refs to T up guys for simply staring. I'm not fond of T'ing up guys for giving a ref an intimidating look, though I can understand it. If it's a simpel stare with no ill intention behind it, it's going to be a long season.

G-train
10-13-2010, 01:02 AM
Stern wants players respecting refs.
Just play, follow their instruction, stay out of their face and let the coach talk to them.
I'm surprised they havent cracked down on players touching refs yet as well.

B-Low
10-13-2010, 01:05 AM
After JO's Dragon Punch he threw in the Pacers brawl back in the day, the refs take all his death stares very seriously. Maybe his fists had started glowing green

White Chocolate
10-13-2010, 01:06 AM
Stern wants players respecting refs.
Just play, follow their instruction, stay out of their face and let the coach talk to them.
I'm surprised they havent cracked down on players touching refs yet as well.


It takes all the emotion out of the game. This doesn't create respect at all. They tried this 5 years ago, it got so bad they had to stop.

alwaysunny
10-13-2010, 01:07 AM
Well to be fair, I don't think players used to complain as much as they do today so..maybe it justifies in some way. Oh, and refs are human too and can get intimidated as well. Sheed has proven that.

Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxNNV6Jl2DQ

kabalcage
10-13-2010, 01:32 AM
How long is the NBA going to keep this up? I give it a couple weeks.

Remember the idea to fine players for flopping, that never got off the ground. How about we assess technicals for flopping.

Forget this "overt reaction" BS, this is the kind of crap that makes the NBA look like they're rigging games.

stephanieg
10-13-2010, 01:33 AM
Every year they make a show of enforcing technicals or palming or traveling or something early in the season. Then they stop.

Mamba
10-13-2010, 01:36 AM
Well to be fair, I don't think players used to complain as much as they do today so..maybe it justifies in some way. Oh, and refs are human too and can get intimidated as well. Sheed has proven that.

Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxNNV6Jl2DQ
the best video ever.

Premeditated
10-13-2010, 01:36 AM
Stern wants players respecting refs.
Just play, follow their instruction, stay out of their face and let the coach talk to them.
I'm surprised they havent cracked down on players touching refs yet as well.
dude, stfu.

its too obvious that you have never played any competitive sport in your life for you say some stupid sh1t like this. now you want players to be emotionless? i dont know where you grew up, but i can tell you've never had any passion growing up.





















edit:you know what? im sorry, i shouldn't have said the last statement. that was so ignorant of me to judge you and i apologize.
do you forgive me b?

zac
10-13-2010, 01:37 AM
the problem is hese hard working athletes are bring Stern millions of dollars and yet hes acting like some kind of totalitarian. he puts all these rules in tack so he can keep the black athletes on a leash.
We get it, you can stop now.

Maga_1
10-13-2010, 03:00 AM
Just so you guys know it already has happened to Sheed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in-W5OuCmS4

Sheed is the man :rockon:

jrong
10-13-2010, 03:11 AM
He should be assessed fifty technicals to make up for all the help he gave the Celtics in the playoffs last year.

PurpleChuck
10-13-2010, 03:13 AM
He should be assessed fifty technicals to make up for all the help he gave the Celtics in the playoffs last year.

This this this! I'm still hating on Jermaine for choking!:banghead:

Semi
10-13-2010, 03:17 AM
Does anyone remember how slaves couldnt even look at their masters, or they got whipped? Stern is heading to the same direction.

well, you're an idiot to compare those 2 things. those athletes get payed millions of dollars to play a stupid game and many of them don't even do it seriously because they are retarted. it's not like they are slaves of the nba, they can leave the league whenever they want. you all know that stern wants a family-friendly nba. i'm not saying it's ok to get t's every time you look at a ref, it's flat out stupid, but many players have no respect to the refs and they are trying to get this under control. obviously that's not gonna change anything because these athletes give a ****.

bdreason
10-13-2010, 03:18 AM
Didn't see this tech, but the one against Korver tonight was weak sauce. He didn't even look at the ref. Just tapped his arm on the way back down the court implying he felt he got fouled. :confusedshrug:

dbugz
10-13-2010, 04:45 AM
This is fckn bullsh!t! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

I hope there will be a petition to remove this fckn stupid rule. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Toizumi
10-13-2010, 05:32 AM
This is fckn bullsh!t! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

I hope there will be a petition to remove this fckn stupid rule. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

:oldlol: yeah I'm with you. This is getting out of hand.

When players loudly complain or shout at the ref... fine give them a tech.
The refs now pretty much hand out techs when the player just shows his disagreement with the call. Horrible.

RazorBaLade
10-13-2010, 05:41 AM
i wonder how many times a ref has to hear thats hes am idiot by players per game

SinJackal
10-13-2010, 05:51 AM
How long is the NBA going to keep this up? I give it a couple weeks.

Remember the idea to fine players for flopping, that never got off the ground. How about we assess technicals for flopping.

Forget this "overt reaction" BS, this is the kind of crap that makes the NBA look like they're rigging games.

My thoughts exactly. They need to give out techs for obvious flopping, not for agruing calls. Refs are clearly not infallable, they should stop being such crybabies that players complain when they screw up.

The arrogance of NBA refs is astounding. It's not like that in any other spot. They need to stop projecting themselves into games. It's at the point now when fans sigh and facepalm when they hear certain refs are officating important games their teams play in (Does anybody like it when Joe Crawford is officating a game your team's playing???)

RazorBaLade
10-13-2010, 05:54 AM
My thoughts exactly. They need to give out techs for obvious flopping, not for agruing calls. Refs are clearly not infallable, they should stop being such crybabies that players complain when they screw up.

The arrogance of NBA refs is astounding. It's not like that in any other spot. They need to stop projecting themselves into games. It's at the point now when fans sigh and facepalm when they hear certain refs are officating important games their teams play in (Does anybody like it when Joe Crawford is officating a game your team's playing???)

in the finals last year la reporters on twitter for the first time ever would tweet the names of officials and say "its gonna be a long one tonight.." or "should be a good game" .. pathetic stuff

DCL
10-13-2010, 08:19 AM
that's because it's jermaine o'neal. they ain't calling that T if d wade made the same stare. but he'd never have to since the refs make all the whistles in his favor already. :lol

MiseryCityTexas
10-13-2010, 08:22 AM
Should've been an offensive foul as he was trying to take a charge under the basket, It's called blocking, he sits up and gives the ref a look, and gets a T.

Yep, this NBA season is going to be grand. :rolleyes:

i hope the 90s come back and one of these crooked refs get snuffed nick van exel/magic johnson style.

KareemCambell
10-13-2010, 09:30 AM
How soft thos game has gotten

#1SportsFan86
10-13-2010, 09:36 AM
Anyways, why is Stern trying to turn the NBA into a socialism experiment? Someone needs to take him out.

You sure you want that?...I mean with you being a Lakers fan in all...

Ghettobird
10-13-2010, 09:45 AM
that is crazy

RajonKGcelts
10-13-2010, 09:47 AM
Anyways, why is Stern trying to turn the NBA into a socialism experiment? Someone needs to take him out.


+1

funny

donald_trump
10-13-2010, 09:54 AM
he should start looking at videos of the boston series from last season. realize how much of a farce of a basketballer he is.

Real Men Wear Green
10-13-2010, 10:03 AM
I wonder if we'll ever see a fan on courtside come to a game with a player on the opposing team's voice saying "idiot" or something like that, ready to blare it out of concealed speaker at just the right time.

LA_Showtime
10-13-2010, 12:10 PM
You sure you want that?...I mean with you being a Lakers fan in all...

Good one.

LA_Showtime
10-13-2010, 12:11 PM
NBA on TV needs to get 'Sheed in the studio ASAP. I would pay to see what hear his thoughts on Hitler.

KareemCambell
10-13-2010, 12:14 PM
NBA on TV needs to get 'Sheed in the studio ASAP. I would pay to see what hear his thoughts on Hitler.


god imagine sheed as a tv host:lol :lol

LA_Showtime
10-13-2010, 12:19 PM
god imagine sheed as a tv host:lol :lol

He'd be Gary Payton + 50 IQ points.

kkling
10-13-2010, 01:38 PM
god imagine sheed as a tv host:lol :lol

I'm imaging something similar to this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y54yESyq6Io

reppy
10-13-2010, 02:22 PM
So any other great improvements to look forward this season? Are they going to unveil a new ball again?

praneel
10-13-2010, 07:52 PM
Just so you guys know it already has happened to Sheed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in-W5OuCmS4


And this was before the NBStern came up with these silly rules.

But to be honest, Sheed was mad doggin that ref for a long time. He kept staring holes into him. The ref told him to stop too.

:lol The ref was scared though, he said "I told him to stop staring at me, trying to intimidate me" his voice went up a little bit too. lol

Sheed come back! The fans need you!

praneel
10-13-2010, 07:53 PM
NBA on TV needs to get 'Sheed in the studio ASAP. I would pay to see what hear his thoughts on Hitler.


:roll:

Sheed called him Napoleon too!

G-train
10-13-2010, 08:02 PM
dude, stfu.

its too obvious that you have never played any competitive sport in your life for you say some stupid sh1t like this. now you want players to be emotionless? i dont know where you grew up, but i can tell you've never had any passion growing up.





















edit:you know what? im sorry, i shouldn't have said the last statement. that was so ignorant of me to judge you and i apologize.
do you forgive me b?

I played professional basketball (but not in USA). I never said a word to the referees. My father was my coach growing up and I was taught to never talk to the referees, thats the coaches job.
Its pretty easy if you brought up to respect people. You hear the whistle, you drop the ball and run back down the court, and take your frustration out on the opposition.
Many but not all Americans dont understand this as they dont understand a proper respect for authority.

StroShow4
10-13-2010, 08:31 PM
He just got another one vs. the Knicks, and then KG got tossed right at the same time. Didn't look like much of anything this time either. Tommy Heinsohn freaked out, litterally screaming on the TV.

StroShow4
10-13-2010, 08:32 PM
And now some guy on the Knicks just got one.

knickscity
10-13-2010, 08:32 PM
He just got another one vs. the Knicks, and then KG got tossed right at the same time. Didn't look like much of anything this time either. Tommy Heinsohn freaked out, litterally screaming on the TV.
yet Amar'e screams "and 1" and finger wags and gets nothing.

MayCeltics
10-13-2010, 08:33 PM
God I hate these ****ing pansies You can't even talk to them. Why the **** did they enact these shitty rule? League better ****ing reverse this BS.

knickscity
10-13-2010, 08:33 PM
Mozgov just got one. Now what did the Russian say that was bad to the ref.

This shit is terrible already.

MayCeltics
10-13-2010, 08:35 PM
Mozgov just got one. Now what did the Russian say that was bad to the ref.

This shit is terrible already.

I know. These Refs have too much power. Dictatorship.

Knicksfever2010
10-13-2010, 08:36 PM
I played professional basketball (but not in USA). I never said a word to the referees. My father was my coach growing up and I was taught to never talk to the referees, thats the coaches job.
Its pretty easy if you brought up to respect people. You hear the whistle, you drop the ball and run back down the court, and take your frustration out on the opposition.
Many but not all Americans dont understand this as they dont understand a proper respect for authority.

So I guess European soccer players dont talk back to the refs? Its not an American thing... its a simple fact, all players talk to the refs, it can be disrepectful talk OR simple, "hey I think you missed the call" ... which i think is ok... the players no better than the refs if they missed a call.
-nba should allow for some emotion but nothing harassing. oh well

Scoooter
10-13-2010, 08:36 PM
The NBA will be tough to watch this year if this bullshit continues. Stern doesn't understand that people like to see emotional outbursts because they like it when their players actually care.

iDunk
10-13-2010, 08:38 PM
The league is making itself look like a joke. The players and the coaches are just laughing at how stupid this new rule is.

They better soften up this rule.

KABIRC
10-13-2010, 09:31 PM
God damn just let the man play!!!

White Chocolate
10-13-2010, 09:49 PM
This is unbelievable. I'm tempted to not even watch the NBA this season. Some player is going to go apesh*t in one game. You can see it coming.

Harison
10-13-2010, 11:52 PM
I played professional basketball (but not in USA). I never said a word to the referees. My father was my coach growing up and I was taught to never talk to the referees, thats the coaches job.
Its pretty easy if you brought up to respect people. You hear the whistle, you drop the ball and run back down the court, and take your frustration out on the opposition.
Many but not all Americans dont understand this as they dont understand a proper respect for authority.
You dont have to say a word, enough to look and you get a T :oldlol: And why players cant say anything if they think ref made a mistake? It happens quite often, and players are passionate human beings, not robots.

Also this have nothing to do with respect (which should be earned and go two-way btw, not one way), its about simple communication. If ref makes a mistake, player should be able to show where he was hit, should be able to say few words as well (as long as its not offensive).

Right now we have a situation when players have to be blindly obedient and cant as much as look at the ref :facepalm

donald_trump
10-14-2010, 12:04 AM
i dont mind this dont talk to the ref or give him a bad look stuff, though if youre going to take that away they have to be able to scream when they dunk and show emotion.
you cant expect to bottle everything up because someone will snap. the ref thing is fine because in every other sport in the world you arent allowed to touch the ref or talk to them if they dont want to talk, though allow celebrating and yelling.

G-train
10-14-2010, 12:17 AM
You dont have to say a word, enough to look and you get a T :oldlol: And why players cant say anything if they think ref made a mistake? It happens quite often, and players are passionate human beings, not robots.

Also this have nothing to do with respect (which should be earned and go two-way btw, not one way), its about simple communication. If ref makes a mistake, player should be able to show where he was hit, should be able to say few words as well (as long as its not offensive).

Right now we have a situation when players have to be blindly obedient and cant as much as look at the ref :facepalm

The refs are running the game. They are in authority. Players should be obedient. Its everything to do with respect. Its respecting authority. And right now too many players have issues with respecting authority and the NBA is trying to do something about it. If the refs authority continues to be questioned, the game will suffer.
The players are there to play, not referee. The referees are there to be in authority and control the games as per the rules. They police the game.
Players can still be emotional. Just not in an excessive fashion towards the referees.
Young kids wouldn't understand, because young people today particulary in the US have authority issues. They think its ok to threaten and yell and demonstrate and argue with authority when small decisions are being made. They aren't protesting Vietnam here. Its a game.
Call me old school, but back in the old school days far less shit was happening partly because there was more respect and honour for the fellow human.

Batz
10-14-2010, 12:23 AM
Ronald Dupree got a technical for giving a "what you blow the whistle for?" look to the ref. So did Kleiza.

This shit is beyond ridiculous. Has Stern ever played competitive sport?

gts
10-14-2010, 12:27 AM
this happens every season, the NBA enacts arule then the refs go out of ther way to make sure everyone realizes it's in place then when the regular season it's hardly called at all.. just like the techs for flopping were....

funny last year we got was threads whining about all the players that make faces when they get called for a foul and how they are ruining the game, this year the NBA does something about it and we get threads complaining about that

JDKMagic
10-14-2010, 12:34 AM
this happens every season, the NBA enacts arule then the refs go out of ther way to make sure everyone realizes it's in place then when the regular season it's hardly called at all.. just like the techs for flopping were....

funny last year we got was threads whining about all the players that make faces when they get called for a foul and how they are ruining the game, this year the NBA does something about it and we get threads complaining about that

The NBA attempted to do something about it. There's a big difference between attempting and doing. Their attempt is horrible and is going to change nothing.

What they need to do is start allowing guys to play and do so for an extended period of time without having to worry about ****ing ticky tacky foul calls every minute. Once the players are adjusted to the refs letting them play, they'll stop whining so much.

The problem is that the NBA has created a league full of whiny *******. The players didn't just become whiny ******* by themselves. The NBA has created that with the rule changes they have made in a pathetic attempt to manufacture another Michael Jordan (which they've failed at, horribly. Guards now whine about every call they don't get because they're used to getting so many). They're also ****ing bigmen over who then also whine because the whistle goes against them so often or is not blown at all.

Giving the refs free reign to T guys up isn't going to change anything for the positive. it will just take some emotion out of a lot of players and we'll have a lesser product because of it.

Good job, NBA. Good job.

Harison
10-14-2010, 12:45 AM
The refs are running the game. They are in authority. Players should be obedient. Its everything to do with respect. Its respecting authority. And right now too many players have issues with respecting authority and the NBA is trying to do something about it. If the refs authority continues to be questioned, the game will suffer.
The players are there to play, not referee. The referees are there to be in authority and control the games as per the rules. They police the game.
Players can still be emotional. Just not in an excessive fashion towards the referees.
Young kids wouldn't understand, because young people today particulary in the US have authority issues. They think its ok to threaten and yell and demonstrate and argue with authority when small decisions are being made. They aren't protesting Vietnam here. Its a game.
Call me old school, but back in the old school days far less shit was happening partly because there was more respect and honour for the fellow human.
Sorry, I dont agree.

1. Players are the most important people on the floor, not refs. We watch NBA because of players, not refs. We want players to decide the outcome of the games, not refs.

2. Good refs are respected, bad ones are not, nor they should be. If player plays badly, he is smashed to dust by fans and media, so should be refs.

3. Refs are not beyond the doubt, or infallible. To err is human, to correct ones err is divine. We are getting to the point where refs are promoted to God status. They arent gods, nor should be treated like ones, despite what Stern wants.

4. If you call a simple look or few normal words excessive, what isnt? :rolleyes: Players should be allowed to communicate.

5. I'm 34 years old, so I'm old school as well. And in '80-90 players were allowed to play, right now refs are sometimes even harming the game itself.

6. Respect goes two-way. Refs cant expect respect if they are disrespecting the players. If refs do something stupid, like Duncan's, or Grant Hill ejection, or many other examples, players simply laugh at refs stupidity, you dont earn respect this way.

All Net
10-14-2010, 05:17 AM
:facepalm God I hope this isn't whats going to happen this season.

jbot
10-14-2010, 07:47 AM
it's just a phase. it'll tone down eventually.

alfonsito123
10-14-2010, 09:53 AM
That's lame. You should be able to look at the refs all you want. This season should set the all time record for technical fouls.
yeah. why is it that stern is so concern about his refs? how about the players in the game? players always take a blame everytime a ref commits a bad call then the player reacts. this always happens in tight games. when players give comments, they will always expect a fine for making a comment. how can this refs learn from their mistakes if they even don't listen about players comments.

alfonsito123
10-14-2010, 10:03 AM
Sorry, I dont agree.

1. Players are the most important people on the floor, not refs. We watch NBA because of players, not refs. We want players to decide the outcome of the games, not refs.

2. Good refs are respected, bad ones are not, nor they should be. If player plays badly, he is smashed to dust by fans and media, so should be refs.

3. Refs are not beyond the doubt, or infallible. To err is human, to correct ones err is divine. We are getting to the point where refs are promoted to God status. They arent gods, nor should be treated like ones, despite what Stern wants.

4. If you call a simple look or few normal words excessive, what isnt? :rolleyes: Players should be allowed to communicate.

5. I'm 34 years old, so I'm old school as well. And in '80-90 players were allowed to play, right now refs are sometimes even harming the game itself.

6. Respect goes two-way. Refs cant expect respect if they are disrespecting the players. If refs do something stupid, like Duncan's, or Grant Hill ejection, or many other examples, players simply laugh at refs stupidity, you dont earn respect this way.

your exactly right man! i really hate this new rule that makes refs God. and i still remember that time where there was an issue about refs fixing games. Stern just suspend the refs. Why not give them a lesson that they will never forget. and I will surely be happy if there is a badass player that will give a misbehaving ref a knockout punch in the face. what do you think?

bokes15
10-14-2010, 11:34 AM
this happens every season, the NBA enacts arule then the refs go out of ther way to make sure everyone realizes it's in place then when the regular season it's hardly called at all.. just like the techs for flopping were....

funny last year we got was threads whining about all the players that make faces when they get called for a foul and how they are ruining the game, this year the NBA does something about it and we get threads complaining about that
Excessive complaining and/or cursing at the refs is what we complained about. Facial expressions and emotions on the other hand should be a part of the game.

bokes15
10-14-2010, 11:38 AM
The NBA attempted to do something about it. There's a big difference between attempting and doing. Their attempt is horrible and is going to change nothing.

What they need to do is start allowing guys to play and do so for an extended period of time without having to worry about ****ing ticky tacky foul calls every minute. Once the players are adjusted to the refs letting them play, they'll stop whining so much.

The problem is that the NBA has created a league full of whiny *******. The players didn't just become whiny ******* by themselves. The NBA has created that with the rule changes they have made in a pathetic attempt to manufacture another Michael Jordan (which they've failed at, horribly. Guards now whine about every call they don't get because they're used to getting so many). They're also ****ing bigmen over who then also whine because the whistle goes against them so often or is not blown at all.

Giving the refs free reign to T guys up isn't going to change anything for the positive. it will just take some emotion out of a lot of players and we'll have a lesser product because of it.

Good job, NBA. Good job.
I agree to that. The new rules over the past 10 years or so have made this into a perimeter players league. That's why the majority of big men nowadays are trying to be the next Dirk rather than the next Shaq. Big men in the paint get hacked, slapped, shoved with no call and perimeter players get breathed on at the 3 point line and it's a foul. It's getting really lame at this point.

mayo'sgrizz
10-14-2010, 01:35 PM
1. Players WIN games.
2. Coaches LOSE games.
3. Refs RUIN games!!!

chazzy
10-14-2010, 01:51 PM
Odom got one last night for the same thing. Gonna be a long season if they enforce it all year..

LA_Showtime
10-14-2010, 02:57 PM
Stern is such an idiot. There's a difference between overreacting and reacting. :oldlol:

DTD
10-14-2010, 03:36 PM
Lamar committed a foul last, put his arms straight up in the air like many players do to show what their position was, and was assessed a Technical. It was beyond bizarre. If this is what is expected to come this season, then you may as well start the lockout now. No one wants to watch a bunch of emotionless robots out there. With calls like that, there is more emotion allowed in Golf.

Lamar Odom on last nights tech: "That was the strangest technical I have ever gotten"

DTD
10-14-2010, 03:54 PM
NEW YORK – The fans wanted this, the NBA emperor tells everyone. David Stern tosses out some vague claim of market research to demand of his players what the commissioner has never demanded of himself: a control of his temper, the grace to react instantly to the incompetence of his officials with a robotic restraint....

In an email, one veteran Eastern Conference player told me, “What’s going to happen next is that people are going to keep going with this about how we don’t care, or don’t play hard … because we’re running around like a bunch of robots. We can’t win with this thing.”

Yes, referees should give techs to players who overreact. But now you get a technical for reacting. That’s an immense difference, and there’s no majority of NBA fans anywhere who ever demanded these changes from the league. [B]This way, the league never has to address the putrid nature of its officiating. If players aren’t reacting to bad calls, they must not have been bad calls. San Antonio Spurs guard George Hill(notes) made a clean strip on the Los Angeles Clippers’ Eric Gordon(notes) in the final minute of a one-point game on Tuesday, got called for a foul and reacted in a natural, expressive twinge of frustration. He drew a tech, and it nearly cost the Spurs a game....

This is pure politics and posturing, the last stand of a commissioner who refuses to let the beginnings of a historic season breathe. The NBA fans wanted this, Stern says, and all those yes-men surrounding him in midtown Manhattan assuredly gave the commissioner one more standing ovation.

Just understand, David Stern is the max-out NBA star who’d never survive a day on the job with his new rules, who’s asking of his sport something he’d never, ever ask of himself: restraint and grace.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=A0PDk0NIXrdMEzoAQwS8vLYF?slug=aw-sternofficiating101410


And in the bold letters above, there in lies the truth of this matter. Covering up the inadequate, sometimes flat out bad officiating. Instead of competence from the officials and Stern, we get more cover up.

White Chocolate
10-14-2010, 04:16 PM
The fans wanted this? Really? I don't watch games to see robots.

Droid101
10-14-2010, 04:24 PM
The fans wanted this? Really? I don't watch games to see robots.
You can be emotional, just not at the refs.

It's annoying and stops the flow of the game, but really, if players stopped whining and tried to one-up EACH OTHER rather than the refs, it would be a non-issue.

b0bab0i
10-14-2010, 04:29 PM
You can be emotional, just not at the refs.

It's annoying and stops the flow of the game, but really, if players stopped whining and tried to one-up EACH OTHER rather than the refs, it would be a non-issue.
Yeah but what if someone is flopping? How do you one up him? By flopping again? Then the whole game would be flopping.

White Chocolate
10-14-2010, 04:30 PM
You can be emotional, just not at the refs.

It's annoying and stops the flow of the game, but really, if players stopped whining and tried to one-up EACH OTHER rather than the refs, it would be a non-issue.


They're getting T'ed for that as well. George Hill last night, perfect example.

zac
10-14-2010, 08:38 PM
I Just searched through the thread but has there been a video posted of this yet? I know KG got ejected in the next game for pretty much nothing too from what I've heard.

b0bab0i
10-14-2010, 10:18 PM
I Just searched through the thread but has there been a video posted of this yet? I know KG got ejected in the next game for pretty much nothing too from what I've heard.
gets ejected for laughing at the tech call

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ngy3VZaDXc

jbot
10-14-2010, 10:49 PM
one thing i don't get is they give out techs simply for giving a look yet gilbert arenas still has a job after having a handgun in the locker room. complete crap. way to make fans lose interest.

gts
10-14-2010, 10:57 PM
one thing i don't get is they give out techs simply for giving a look yet gilbert arenas still has a job after having a handgun in the locker room. complete crap. way to make fans lose interest.oh christ STFU, he was suspended for half the season without pay....

jbot
10-14-2010, 11:00 PM
oh christ STFU, he was suspended for half the season without pay....
:cry: oh my, don't bring that gilbert gun stuff up.

White Chocolate
10-15-2010, 12:18 AM
gets ejected for laughing at the tech call

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ngy3VZaDXc


I'm no KG fan, but that's absurd.