Kevin Garnett elbowed Q-Rich in Game 1. UPDATE: KG suspended one game

[BarberSchool]

Quentin Richardson was approaching in peace to see if Paul Pierce was ok, and in an extremely immature and asenine act, Kevin Garnett threw a small push with his elbow at Quentin Richardson. They exchanged words, and Garnett then threw a second, hard, violent elbow shot towards Quentin Richardson's head and neck. This type of behavior is absolutely intolerable, and steps need to be taken to eliminate this type of disgusting, childish behavior from this postseason, and from the game as a whole.

It's extremely shameful for KG to still act this way at his age.

I feel the league should send a strong message and fine him $25,000.00 and suspend him for one game for each elbow shot thrown.

How many of you see nothing wrong with the first "elbow push", but think KG should be fined and suspended for the 2nd, violent elbow shot?

How many other posters agree that the league should make an example out of this type of disgusting, unnecessary behavior?

[phoenix18]

Really?

I am going to have to check if anyone started a suspension thread when Kobe raped Battier and left him bloody in front of everyone.

[BarberSchool]

I would also ask that everyone be respectful in this discussion, and we all can benefit from everyone's references evets they percieve as similar, opinions about suspensions in general, and the general tone that we might like to see as fans this postseason.

I for one think the league should take strong action, specifically against a player who has repeatedly done things that incite unnecessary conflict.

[bada bing]

was horry suspended when he body checked nash into the boards hockey style a few years ago?

[netsfan549]

Anybody here have a video?

[plowking]

Two elbows to the face not in the heat of the game deserves a two game suspension.

[Kobe Jnr]

When Pierce went down. And Richardson walked over to Pierce he must of said something to Pierce.. and Garnett was there sticking up for Pierce and that's when it all happened. Hopefully KG doesn't get suspended...

[strifed169]

In the last video the refs show of it, they only show it one time, but it was a slowmotion angle caught looking up at KG when he was walking away fromk Richardson and you can clearly see him wind up his elbow, no one was holding him, he knew were Q was and his strike found its mark, what a snake.

[Tito Beasley]

Mr. Garnett will not be appearing in game 2 of this series. I am very sure of that.

[ILLsmak]

I think that he just deserves a fine. It was bull, but the Heat will get him back. Trust me... they are men, let them handle it.

He got tossed, but it was just unlucky timing that it wasn't at a part of the game where it mattered.

He didn't really do anything that was worthy of saying YOU ARE SUSPENDED. But if he gets suspended, I won't think it's unwarranted. I just don't think they will... probably end up getting a fine if anything.

-Smak

[bl2k8]

was horry suspended when he body checked nash into the boards hockey style a few years ago?
2 games

[airchibundo507]

One game? Nicca stern suspended Melo for 15 games. Garnett should miss 10.

[Derek Zoolander]

Did any of you guys see Garnetrtt throw another cheap shot then back out of the pile really fast, living up to the reputation of a man who picks on smaller guys then runs away?

Pierce pretended to be hurt again too

[Killbot]

Really?

I am going to have to check if anyone started a suspension thread when Kobe raped Battier and left him bloody in front of everyone.

It's Kobe. What do you expect? He almost always gets favoritism from the NBA.

[sacredcow]

If they suspended Dwight Howard for an elbow, they'll suspend Kevin "mommy didn't hug me enough" ***** *****.

[BarberSchool]

Correct me if i am mistaken, but did both these horrible plays occur on the field of play, with the clock running, and are therefore unfortuneately up for evaluation as per the intent of the actions of the players involved?

was horry suspended when he body checked nash into the boards hockey style a few years ago?


Really?

I am going to have to check if anyone started a suspension thread when Kobe raped Battier and left him bloody in front of everyone.
I beleive that while I personally find those 2 plays very suspicious at best and extremely poor sportsmanship and assault at worst, they still can be argued as things that may or may not have been actions that were incidental during game play.

Kevin garnett's actions were clearly not part of any regular game play or actions related to the game, they were clear signs of inciting conflict, and violent malice outside the field of play during a dead ball scenario.

This type of behavior is not subject to interpretation as to whether the player's intent was to serve a purpose in the game or field of play, it is completely ancillary and full of malice and violence.

At a bare minimum KG should be suspended 1 game, and if the league would like to send a strong message that it wants a clean, respectful postseason , a multi-game suspension is clearly the right course of action for the NBA league office to take upon this disgusting, and totally unnecessary behavior.

This type of behavior, displayed by Kevin Garnett, helps to undo much of the image that the NBA has worked so hard to achieve.

[Derek Zoolander]

When Pierce went down. And Richardson walked over to Pierce he must of said something to Pierce.. and Garnett was there sticking up for Pierce and that's when it all happened. Hopefully KG doesn't get suspended...
Richardson probably just asked pierce if he was faking another injury

[BarberSchool]

Richardson probably just asked pierce if he was faking another injuryAlthough this is funny, i doubt Richardson said that. My guess is that he was genuinely concerned for Pierce's well being, as his body language looked peaceful and concerned.

[lilo]

Two elbows to the face not in the heat of the game deserves a two game suspension.

It was not two, it was ten, all in the face and Richardson was taken away by the Ambulance :lol

[kentatm]

Howard out for Game 6

The Orlando Magic will be without two starters in their next playoff game after the NBA announced Wednesday that Dwight Howard has been suspended for Thursday night's Game 6 in Philadelphia.

Howard received a one-game ban for an elbow he swung at the head of 76ers center Samuel Dalembert in Tuesday's Game 5, and like teammate Courtney Lee -- who was later felled by an unintentional Howard hit -- will be absent when the 76ers try to force a Game 7 in the teams' tight first-round series.

The Magic had been bracing for what was widely considered a certain suspension after video replays clearly showed Howard swiping at Dalembert's head.

Adding to the likelihood that Howard would receive at least a one-game ban was the fact that he was not ejected after the elbow, merely receiving a technical foul that allowed him to stay on the floor. Howard wound up totaling 24 points and a career playoff-best 24 rebounds to power Orlando to a 91-78 home win and nudge the Magic into a 3-2 series lead.

link (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009/news/story?id=4112203)

This article makes me think that it may come down to if the NBA thinks the ejection was enough punishment for two elbows.

[GatorKid117]

He will get suspended. They have to after Dwight's last year. It would be completely hypocritical not to.

And OP, you do not know if Richardson came over in peace, none of us do. For all we know he could have said, you want a wheelchair?

[gyu]

Really?

I am going to have to check if anyone started a suspension thread when Kobe raped Battier and left him bloody in front of everyone.
That was Vujacic that left Battier bloody, but Kobe did get some dirty shots in on Battier as they were on the floor.

[jasonresno]

I missed the game. Anyone got a video to the hit?

If he doesn't get suspended or even fined it wouldn't surprise me. Rondo threw Hinrich into the scorers table and got hi fived by the refs.

[ZenMaster]

Really?

I am going to have to check if anyone started a suspension thread when Kobe raped Battier and left him bloody in front of everyone.


It's always about someone else..

[Knoe Itawl]

Even if Richardson wasn't coming over to check on Pierce, I'm pretty sure that KGs reaction is frowned on by the league office.

At any rate, it wouldn't make sense for Richardson to make the effort to come all the way over there just to taunt Pierce for being down. Regardless of whatever "history" people are talking about, that just doesn't make sense.

[thejumpa]

They need to chill on the BS suspensions. It was a lame ass elbow...caught Q in the chin. Big deal. Honestly, he deserved it if he came over there just to taunt Pierce while he was down. Dude was getting extra close....

It's the playoffs. Save the suspensions for something a little more serious.

[west]

One game? Nicca stern suspended Melo for 15 games. Garnett should miss 10.
I'm amazed by your ability to bring Melo in every conversation.:lol

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

They need to chill on the BS suspensions. It was a lame ass elbow...caught Q in the chin. Big deal. Honestly, he deserved it if he came over there just to taunt Pierce while he was down. Dude was getting extra close....

It's the playoffs. Save the suspensions for something a little more serious. This. Finally a non Celtic fan who isn't too blinded by hate too see the truth.

[lilo]

Correct me if i am mistaken, but did both these horrible plays occur on the field of play, with the clock running, and are therefore unfortuneately up for evaluation as per the intent of the actions of the players involved?



I beleive that while I personally find those 2 plays very suspicious at best and extremely poor sportsmanship and assault at worst, they still can be argued as things that may or may not have been actions that were incidental during game play.

Kevin garnett's actions were clearly not part of any regular game play or actions related to the game, they were clear signs of inciting conflict, and violent malice outside the field of play during a dead ball scenario.

This type of behavior is not subject to interpretation as to whether the player's intent was to serve a purpose in the game or field of play, it is completely ancillary and full of malice and violence.

At a bare minimum KG should be suspended 1 game, and if the league would like to send a strong message that it wants a clean, respectful postseason , a multi-game suspension is clearly the right course of action for the NBA league office to take upon this disgusting, and totally unnecessary behavior.

This type of behavior, displayed by Kevin Garnett, helps to undo much of the image that the NBA has worked so hard to achieve.

And your statments will sound even more convincing if you start using even larger font.

[phoenix18]

They need to chill on the BS suspensions. It was a lame ass elbow...caught Q in the chin. Big deal. Honestly, he deserved it if he came over there just to taunt Pierce while he was down. Dude was getting extra close....

It's the playoffs. Save the suspensions for something a little more serious.

Finally,someone gets my point. When someone is hurt, the first thing anyone says is back up so that the trainers(in this case)/doctors/nurses/etc can get over there have space to do their jobs. Q kept getting closer and closer until he got shoulder to shoulder with KG and then decided to take another step. I'm watching the replay, asking myself, "where is he going?". He could have realistically gotten any closer to Pierce, and he couldn't have stepped over because there were people on the other side.

[EroticVanilla]

People need to stop with this fake-ass outrage, Richardson was creeping up on the Celts bench and KG gave him a elbow-push then everything exploded. The way some people make it seem on here you'd think Richardson smashed in the face after glancing over at the Celtics bench.

Really I don't even see the big deal, all the video's I've seen of the 80's game were much more physical and prone to violence and it was IMO much more entertaining, now if you breath in someone airspace you get a double-t, it's bullshit.

People it's the National Basketball Association, not the National Bi*ch Association like some of you would like it to be, these are grown ****ing men who can handle themselves.

[Knoe Itawl]

Finally,someone gets my point. When someone is hurt, the first thing anyone says is back up so that the trainers(in this case)/doctors/nurses/etc can get over there have space to do their jobs. Q kept getting closer and closer until he got shoulder to shoulder with KG and then decided to take another step. I'm watching the replay, asking myself, "where is he going?". He could have realistically gotten any closer to Pierce, and he couldn't have stepped over because there were people on the other side.

Nevethless, it's up to the refs to handle that. Not up to KG to swing at him. And anyway, like I said what sense does it make for Richardson to come all the way over there just to taunt Pierce while he's down?

[Juges8932]

It's Kobe. What do you expect? He almost always gets favoritism from the NBA.

Um, IDK what Kobe you're watching. He gets called for technicals all the time and most certainly does not get preferential treatment from the refs. Of the superstars, the least. I believe the person you are looking for was LeBron.

[thejumpa]

Q kept getting closer and closer until he got shoulder to shoulder with KG and then decided to take another step. I'm watching the replay, asking myself, "where is he going?".

I was thinking the same thing. If he said to KG "Yo I just want to make sure he's OK" I doubt KG would have acted like that. He was getting a little too close for comfort and probably was being a smart ass afterward. Afterward, he was staring down the court towards the C's and KG with a smirk on his face. He probably knows that KG is going to get suspended.

Gotta love the posters who blasted KG afterward like he stole their lunch money.

[leopoldstotch]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEymT8g_6HY


before watching this video, i couldn't take sides between garnett and richardson, because i didn't see what happened, and i have to view it from different angles. after watching this video, i side with richardson and miami on this fracas. KG was the clear assailant.

[50inchvertical]

If you have Nba TV, Q is explaining everything. He was telling Jermaine O'Neal that Pierce was faking, as he is known to do. Then he called KG and Pierce "actresses," referencing Pierce's tendency to fall down like he's going to need to go to the hospital over minor contact, be carried off the court, then come back 5 minutes later and for KG, obviously him acting all tough all the time but you'll notice he threw his elow, then ran out of there. And when Magloire was in front of him, all of a sudden he's quiet like a schoolgirl and wanted no trouble. Then once there was some space, back trash talking and dropping F bombs again.

[phoenix18]

If you have Nba TV, Q is explaining everything. He was telling Jermaine O'Neal that Pierce was faking, as he is known to do. Then he called KG and Pierce "actresses," referencing Pierce's tendency to fall down like he's going to need to go to the hospital over minor contact, be carried off the court, then come back 5 minutes later and for KG, obviously him acting all tough all the time but you'll notice he threw his elow, then ran out of there. And when Magloire was in front of him, all of a sudden he's quiet like a schoolgirl and wanted no trouble. Then once there was some space, back trash talking and dropping F bombs again.
I turned off the TV.

If this is true, then this mofo deserved to get hit in the mouth.

[Knoe Itawl]

If you have Nba TV, Q is explaining everything. He was telling Jermaine O'Neal that Pierce was faking, as he is known to do. Then he called KG and Pierce "actresses," referencing Pierce's tendency to fall down like he's going to need to go to the hospital over minor contact, be carried off the court, then come back 5 minutes later and for KG, obviously him acting all tough all the time but you'll notice he threw his elow, then ran out of there. And when Magloire was in front of him, all of a sudden he's quiet like a schoolgirl and wanted no trouble. Then once there was some space, back trash talking and dropping F bombs again.

I stand corrected on Q not coming over to pop trash. Still, KG overreacted. Just admitted it in the interview session.

[artest 93]

:roll: dumb kids trying to justify elbows.

If you say there are instances where throwing elbows, especially when the ball is out of play, is OK, then so many more scenarios for elbows to be thrown. Elbows are not thrown without being punished, even if your mom had just died and someone said something offensive. It's simply not your job to deliver "justice".

KG WILL be suspended. Don't act surprise and victimized either.

[04mzwach]

KG was in the middle of everything, so it wasn't really his fault. I think that's why he gave the second elbow. People were starting to crowd around him. Paul Pierce should of just fell somewhere else. Seriously, did he have to fall on the floor around the Heat bench? :lol

[lakerHater]

Should suspend Pierce too for faking!

[KB2009Champ]

hopefully this teaches PP to stop with his over exaggerations of being injured. smh.

i hope q rich was telling him to quit acting like a biatch lol

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

hopefully this teaches PP to stop with his over exaggerations of being injured. smh.

i hope q rich was telling him to quit acting like a biatch lol Pierce got the last laugh after winning the game while Q-rich went home after getting elbowed.

[50inchvertical]

hopefully this teaches PP to stop with his over exaggerations of being injured. smh.

i hope q rich was telling him to quit acting like a biatch lol
He was, but according to him Pierce was talking to him too from the ground. KG knew who he was elbowing. That's why he SPRINTED away afterwards. You forget, both of those dudes are from Chicago so they know each other. How come KG wasn't so animated when Jamal MacGloire was in his face? He don't want no trouble all of a sudden? Dude is such a fake.

[Kingwillball]

hopefully this teaches PP to stop with his over exaggerations of being injured. smh.

i hope q rich was telling him to quit acting like a biatch lol


seriously he was laying on the ground like he had a separated shoulder or broken collarbone..:rolleyes:

[leopoldstotch]

because of that interview, Q may get a 1 game suspension for instigating garnett to throw the elbow. do you get a suspension for instigating a shoving match? :lol

[thejumpa]

How can you fake or exxagerate a shoulder stinger? Not only that, but what is the advantage of doing it in the 4th quarter with 40 seconds left?

[04mzwach]

PP looked like a scared ***** after KG was ejected. Didn't he? :ohwell:

[jasonresno]

KG is a ****in gorilla.

["Jesus"]

LOL @ Garnett running away immediately after throwing the elbow.

[Timmy D for MVP]

A flagrant 2 is an automatic suspension right?

But they gave him two technicals. So what's the ruling?

Regardless at least one game suspensioni will happen but I expect 2-3. We'll see, it depends on who the league deems the one who started it.

Also I don't think I saw anyone out of line on Miami's bench or Boston's but we'll see what happens there too.

[04mzwach]

because of that interview, Q may get a 1 game suspension for instigating garnett to throw the elbow. do you get a suspension for instigating a shoving match? :lol
If you started it, yes.

[Kumo]

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m133/BentleyCntlGT/gifs/wu2laq.gif

[Force]

KG started the whole thing...it didn't help that the refs called the game so badly against Miami that the Heat were "heated" and pissed off as well.

[50inchvertical]

How can you fake or exxagerate a shoulder stinger? Not only that, but what is the advantage of doing it in the 4th quarter with 40 seconds left?
You lay on the ground like you are super hurt and make grimace faces. The advantage, you get a bit of extra rest because it delays the game, plus you get to look like a hero when you "miraculously" bounce back. It's not like he hasn't done it before. He was carried off the court before in the playoffs, only to return minutes later. :oldlol:

Actress :oldlol:

And who has ever been suspended for "instigating" with words? Doesn't work that way. If anybody is suspended, it'll be KG, but I wouldn't be shocked if the league just overlooks this one since they have a tendency to be completely erratic with all their decision making.

But for reference sake, they suspended Dwight Howard for less against Samuel Dalembert.

[04mzwach]

LOL @ Garnett running away immediately after throwing the elbow.
Do you think he was throwing the elbow to inflict pain or something?

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

You lay on the ground like you are super hurt and make grimace faces. The advantage, you get a bit of extra rest because it delays the game, plus you get to look like a hero when you "miraculously" bounce back. It's not like he hasn't done it before. He was carried off the court before in the playoffs, only to return minutes later. :oldlol:

Actress :oldlol: Pierce 1

Q-Rich: 0 (May even be -1 after getting elbowed.)

[KB2009Champ]

for real, i lost respect for PP after that wheelchair fiasco. people will say of course you did you are a laker fan but i think all non celtic fans will agree.

so for the rest of his career, ill never ever believe that any injury of his is as bad as he makes it seem. i think only vince is comparable but at least with vince you almost believe him cause he doesn't come out like the savior from the locker room after playing up his injuries.

smh at pp lol. and yeah, kg will be suspended.

["Jesus"]

Do you think he was throwing the elbow to inflict pain or something?

What do you think Kevin Garnett was trying to do?

[lilo]

seriously he was laying on the ground like he had a separated shoulder or broken collarbone..:rolleyes:

He had a pinched nerve. It stings hard but the pain does not last long. This happened to him already for the third time this year.

[thejumpa]

You lay on the ground like you are super hurt and make grimace faces. The advantage, you get a bit of extra rest because it delays the game, plus you get to look like a hero when you "miraculously" bounce back. It's not like he hasn't done it before. He was carried off the court before in the playoffs, only to return minutes later. :oldlol:

Actress :oldlol:

We don't know if he is faking it or not, but a stinger is a stinger. Who knows how he got it or how bad it hurt him. Furthermore, it's game 1 and there is 40 seconds left. I highly doubt Pierce was looking for rest. Someone is going to foul or something anyway...get your rest there:confusedshrug:

[KB2009Champ]

does anyone have a link for q rich interview?

[wang4three]

I waiting for JO to come in with a sliding punch.

[Timmy D for MVP]

If it really was cause he called them actresses....

Cmon. There's far worse in pretty much every pick up game. Not deserving of an elbow. What you should do is let your game speak, and then if you knock them out make a little oscar, best team acting like they deserve to be in the playoffs. Hand it to him after the last game.

Well that might be a little too much. Nm.

[50inchvertical]

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[04mzwach]

What do you think Kevin Garnett was trying to do?
Get Richardson away from Pierce or just get Richardson off of him playing mind games of some kind. Then more people came around and emotions ran high, so he threw an extra elbow. Then he got out of there before he got into anymore trouble.

[phoenix18]

I dont know about Paul "faking". My knee popped one time and I thought I was DONE. I mean it felt when lie down on your arm, get up and it feels all "tingly". That's how my leg felt and then it went numb. I still played and afterwards went to the doctor to figure out its just a sprain. :lol

[PistonsFan#21]

For those wondering if Richardson was coming in to help Pierce i suggest you watch this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkPEZlVD8nk

They had beef from back when Quentin was still with NYK. He even challenged Pierce to a fist fight :lol

[sirkeelma]

Quentin Richardson was approaching in peace to see if Paul Pierce was ok, and in an extremely immature and asenine act, Kevin Garnett threw a small push with his elbow at Quentin Richardson. They exchanged words, and Garnett then threw a second, hard, violent elbow shot towards Quentin Richardson's head and neck. This type of behavior is absolutely intolerable, and steps need to be taken to eliminate this type of disgusting, childish behavior from this postseason, and from the game as a whole.

It's extremely shameful for KG to still act this way at his age.

I feel the league should send a strong message and fine him $25,000.00 and suspend him for one game for each elbow shot thrown.

How many of you see nothing wrong with the first "elbow push", but think KG should be fined and suspended for the 2nd, violent elbow shot?

How many other posters agree that the league should make an example out of this type of disgusting, unnecessary behavior?
Are you sure with this? FAIL!

[50inchvertical]

I dont know about Paul "faking". My knee popped one time and I thought I was DONE. I mean it felt when lie down on your arm, get up and it feels all "tingly". That's how my leg felt and then it went numb. I still played and afterwards went to the doctor to figure out its just a sprain. :lol
Did you get carried or wheel chaired off the court, have somebody take your place, then come jogging back into the gym minutes later and finish the game? Furthermore, have you done it more than once?

Then the comparison fails

[MMM]

We don't know if he is faking it or not, but a stinger is a stinger. Who knows how he got it or how bad it hurt him. Furthermore, it's game 1 and there is 40 seconds left. I highly doubt Pierce was looking for rest. Someone is going to foul or something anyway...get your rest there:confusedshrug:

logic escapes some people. there are some who still believe PP faked an injury with his team down 10 in game 1 of the finals. I guess having a 270+ pound 7ft'er fall on your knee is not going to cause any pain if anyone overreacted at the time it was probably the medical staff that wanted to be extremely careful.

[phoenix18]

Did you get carried or wheel chaired off the court, have somebody take your place, then come jogging back into the gym minutes later and finish the game? Furthermore, have you done it more than once?

Then the comparison fails
This was High School.

I wasnt an NBA star worth making millions for myself as well as my team and the league. I was not on an NBA Roster with doctors and advanced medical equipment.

I did leave, went to the locker room, decided I still wanted to play and have it checked out after.

No wheelchair.No jogging.

[lakerHater]

This was High School.

I wasnt an NBA star worth making millions for myself as well as my team and the league. I was not on an NBA Roster with doctors and advanced medical equipment.

I did leave, went to the locker room, decided I still wanted to play and have it checked out after.

No wheelchair.No jogging.
I dont think he mentioned @ what level basketball!!

[LA_Showtime]

Please, Garnett hardly deserves a suspension. This is the playoffs, and these interactions make the series more intense and the games more exciting.

[PP34Deuce]

Im a huge PP fan and in LA i believe the medical staff exaggerated and he milked it of course... Kobe,MJ have done the same shit.

PP is banged up and I believe he had a stinger, no player would act like that when you have the game dictated.

Q Rich and PP jaw all the time when they play and KG's elbow push was more like step off. then his emotions got the best of him with several people moving him.

KG should get one game.

Q Rich loses because the refs will pay more attention and PP easily can get his dumb ass in foul trouble.

[BallsOut]

I dont know about Paul "faking". My knee popped one time and I thought I was DONE. I mean it felt when lie down on your arm, get up and it feels all "tingly". That's how my leg felt and then it went numb. I still played and afterwards went to the doctor to figure out its just a sprain. :lol

Well your argument fails, because we don't care about your situation little drama queen. kthxbye

[LA_Showtime]

Well your argument fails, because we don't care about your situation little drama queen. kthxbye

BallsOut is a horrible movie. It's like this tennis comedy flick with that moron from American Pie. My history professor's brother actually produced the flick. Terrible, gut wrenching, kill myself type of movie.

[Crash]

It's Kobe. What do you expect? He almost always gets favoritism from the NBA.

Unnatural Basketball Act.

[BallsOut]

Pierce 1

Q-Rich: 0 (May even be -1 after getting elbowed.)

At least Q-Rich still has his street cred. Pierce sold out awhile ago. Q probably wasn't the first and won't be the last NBA player to call Pierce an "actress" straight up.

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

At least Q-Rich still has his street cred. Pierce sold out awhile ago. Q probably wasn't the first and won't be the last NBA player to call Pierce an "actress" straight up. "Street cred" :roll: . He looked real tough talking to Pierce while he was hurt and then getting elbowed in the face.

[bdreason]

Can't stand the Celtics. They were alright before they won a ring. Now they're just a bunch of pretentious *******.

I just saw the play on NBATV. That has to be AT LEAST a one game suspension. You can break someones jaw with an elbow like that.

[LA_Showtime]

BTW, Pierce should opt out of his contract and sign with the Lakers. Then when he retires, he can quickly find a job as an actor. The guy ALWAYS exaggerates his injuries. I could throw a penny at him and he'd react like I shot him with a bazooka.

[NotYetGreat]

Iunno, but the guy that brought up the interview of Q-Rich pretty much just disproved his point. I mean, if you call some grown-ass men "Actresses" or "Princess" then prepare to get your ass whooped. Now KG overreacted yes, and while I do agree that he may deserve a suspension for throwing the elbows, Q-Rich started it by saying it. Now does he deserve a suspension? Iunno. So many other players were known for talking trash and shit to other players. Michael did it. Larry did it. Rodman did it. They get suspended for it? No, so Q-Rich most probably won't either, but you have to face the fact that he started it by talking trash. His fault he got elbowed.

[King Lebron LBJ]

No KG for game 2 will be Miami's chance to take control of the series. They don't win game 2 this series is likely over. Thought they had the game when they went up 14.

[Jakeh008]

KG is the goat!!!!



at hitting someone... looking at there face... then running away...

[sodapop]

I just now finished 2 hrs viewing the KG elbow video from both angles. Richardson was bumped by KG, Richardson got in KG face, it was in perfect view from both angles. This is where it get twisted. If you look closely at the second angle, you will see Richardson plus another player holding KG for a split second. I slowed down the video, zoomed in and caught Richardson grabbing hold of KG, another player grabbed KG's right arm, KG released his left arm and struck Richardson with the elbow. I think both players, Kevin Garnett , Q. Richardson should receive a one game suspension and pay a fine, regardless. Also, a few other players off the Miami bench should receive a one game suspension for violating the leaving the bench rule.

[nbastatus]

KG is the goat!!!!



at hitting someone... looking at there face... then running away...
:oldlol: :oldlol:

[New Jazzy Nets]

he saw kobe do it, he tried it also. I think its only fair to suspend both of those players(kobe/KG) for the rest of the playoffs.

[Jayle]

Umm, I think the respectable thing for Richardson to do was to back off.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt...maybe he went over to say, "Hey Paul, sorry man, did I hurt ya?"

But the minute KG said, "Hey just back off," Richardson should have just walked away.

But no...what did he do? He started ****ing yapping. Never mind that he got away with the foul. Let them play, is what I say.

But when Paul's teammate tells you to step off...just step off. It's that simple.

[Jayle]

BTW, Pierce should opt out of his contract and sign with the Lakers. Then when he retires, he can quickly find a job as an actor. The guy ALWAYS exaggerates his injuries. I could throw a penny at him and he'd react like I shot him with a bazooka.

Let's pretend for a minute that you got really hurt. But after a few minutes you toughed it out and came back out and played.

Wouldn't you be pissed at everyone saying you weren't really hurt even though you were playing in pain?

And you know you can't say, "Yeah, I'm hurt but I'm playing anyway." Because who the fu'ck would believe you?

Nobody. So STFU. Either the guy is hurt or not, there's no way for you or me to know if he's playing through pain or painfully playing up his injury. Stick to the game and whether or not the ball goes in the hoop and stop trying to make a soap opera out of all the other sh't that goes on.

[Burgz]

there is no excuse to act like that

so much for "experienced" veterans in boston
If a player talks trash, let them talk all they want, and if it rattles you as it did to garnett then you let that player get a psychological advantage over you

and if you retaliate like garnett did, then you deserve a suspension, it's clear a day

i used to defend garnett for his borderline unsportsmanlike conduct, but he always seems to be the instigator or catalyst to scrums like this

give him a 1 game suspension and let's get on with the series

[Batz]

KG is the goat!!!!



at hitting someone... looking at there face... then running away...
:roll: :roll:

[DuMa]

didnt read thread. but didnt daequan cook leave the bench to hold richardson away from the altercation?

[Burgz]

didnt read thread. but didnt daequan cook leave the bench to hold richardson away from the altercation?

yea so did magloire and i think haslem but cant remember if he was on or just subbed out

they cant possibly suspend them when KG elbows one of their players practically ON their bench haha

if they do then god save the NBA

[simcjt]

http://blogs.pe.com/prosports/pierce-softball.jpg

:roll:

[Durant=GOAT]

KG should have played football instead of basketball. The way he got out of that altercation had Jim Brown written all over it. I have never in my life witnessed somebody split a scrum like that.

Also I love the elbow then run and then jump back into the altercation when none of the Heat players can touch him.

[lpublic_enemyl]

yea so did magloire and i think haslem but cant remember if he was on or just subbed out

they cant possibly suspend them when KG elbows one of their players practically ON their bench haha

if they do then god save the NBA
ok if amare gets suspended for stepping on the court after nash got hit, KG is definitely getting suspended , kg is dumb for doing that it's gonna cost his team....

[DuMa]

yea so did magloire and i think haslem but cant remember if he was on or just subbed out

they cant possibly suspend them when KG elbows one of their players practically ON their bench haha

if they do then god save the NBA

they almost have to suspend those players... the amare rule is in effect. stern was very ****ign adamant about that when it happened.

[White Chocolate]

If Dwight got suspended for his elbow, Garnett needs to be suspended for his.

[Burgz]

they almost have to suspend those players... the amare rule is in effect. stern was very ****ign adamant about that when it happened.

it sucks that happened though

that spurs suns series pretty much set a precedent

i just hate when players get suspended for trying to calm the situation down

[KoRn]

Really?

I am going to have to check if anyone started a suspension thread when Kobe raped Battier and left him bloody in front of everyone.

you being sarcastic right? cuz it was sasha vujacic that bloodied battier and it was in the course of the game.

[shadow]

Paul Pierce acting as usual, KG overreacting as usual. IMO that's atleast a one game suspension. The elbow was unprovoked, both times. If the league has any sense of consistency they should suspend KG.

[KoRn]

It's Kobe. What do you expect? He almost always gets favoritism from the NBA.

first it was sasha vujacic that made battier bleed and it was in the course of the game. it's one thing to hate, but another to let facts get in your way. kobe got suspended for hitting manu in the course of shooting a jumper. kobe also got suspended 2 games for elbowing mike miller in the throat.

what is this favoritism from the NBA? are you fjucking blind? stop making things up.

[burnsy87]

http://blogs.pe.com/prosports/pierce-softball.jpg
\

Funniest shit anyones ever posted on this board.

[MMM]

Paul Pierce acting as usual, KG overreacting as usual. IMO that's atleast a one game suspension. The elbow was unprovoked, both times. If the league has any sense of consistency they should suspend KG.

Pierce has hurt the same should a couple times this season just as recent as the game against SA a few weeks ago. it really doesn't make sense to fake an injury like that in the playoffs. i'm sure Pierce remember what happen to melo when he was laying on the court and the refs let play continue. So in a 5-6 point game at the time why risk faking an injury and leaving your team out to dry defensively???

[KingLeBronJames]

Really?

I am going to have to check if anyone started a suspension thread when Kobe raped Battier and left him bloody in front of everyone.
LOL It was Vujacic who left Battier bloodied. Not Kobe.

[boozehound]

was horry suspended when he body checked nash into the boards hockey style a few years ago?
well, the league has specific rules regarding elbows thrown (and connecting). besides horry was suspended.

Look, even if Q walked over to talk shit, thats not a specific violation of league rules (celts fans may want to recall garnett taunting on all 4s like a dog with no repercussion). garnett initiated the physical contact and should be suspended. probably one game.

[boozehound]

there is no excuse to act like that

so much for "experienced" veterans in boston
If a player talks trash, let them talk all they want, and if it rattles you as it did to garnett then you let that player get a psychological advantage over you

and if you retaliate like garnett did, then you deserve a suspension, it's clear a day

i used to defend garnett for his borderline unsportsmanlike conduct, but he always seems to be the instigator or catalyst to scrums like this

give him a 1 game suspension and let's get on with the series
which is kind of funny, since KG is the king of inappropriate trash talk and the advantage it creates.

[DaRondoStopper]

Quentin Richardson was approaching in peace to see if Paul Pierce was ok, and in an extremely immature and asenine act, Kevin Garnett threw a small push with his elbow at Quentin Richardson. They exchanged words, and Garnett then threw a second, hard, violent elbow shot towards Quentin Richardson's head and neck. This type of behavior is absolutely intolerable, and steps need to be taken to eliminate this type of disgusting, childish behavior from this postseason, and from the game as a whole.

It's extremely shameful for KG to still act this way at his age.

I feel the league should send a strong message and fine him $25,000.00 and suspend him for one game for each elbow shot thrown.

How many of you see nothing wrong with the first "elbow push", but think KG should be fined and suspended for the 2nd, violent elbow shot?

How many other posters agree that the league should make an example out of this type of disgusting, unnecessary behavior?
Whenever a game isn't going well for Kobe he throws an at least one elbow...he's never suspended so I don't see the big deal:confusedshrug:

[KoRn]

Whenever a game isn't going well for Kobe he throws an at least one elbow...he's never suspended so I don't see the big deal:confusedshrug:


kobe got suspended for hitting manu in the course of shooting a jumper. kobe also got suspended 2 games for elbowing mike miller in the throat.

he never got suspended? so you ignore facts right?

[Bernie Nips]

I would cop a 1 game suspension. I'm a huge KG fan, but I wouldn't be upset about him copping that... it was an elbow to the head.

In his defence, he wasn't looking at Quentin, and he was being held by Derozan I think, and he looked like he was frustrated by that and swung his way out of the hold.

[Hotlantadude81]

When Pierce went down. And Richardson walked over to Pierce he must of said something to Pierce.. and Garnett was there sticking up for Pierce and that's when it all happened. Hopefully KG doesn't get suspended...

I agree with the OP... I think KG is just a douche bag that wanted to play up the us vs. them mentality.

[RazorBaLade]

Whenever a game isn't going well for Kobe he throws an at least one elbow...he's never suspended so I don't see the big deal:confusedshrug:

Lol you say this as if Kobe just randomly elbows them for no reason, the defender fouls him all game long with no call and when Kobe gets tired of it he'll throw an elbow that is 'hidden' from the refs, but it gets replayed on ESPN a thousand times that night. We've seen maybe 5-10 elbows his entire career and they're all retaliation.

KG elbowed someone and broke out of there, his reason for the elbow? Q was gonna tell Pierce to get a wheelchair. Boo hoo.

[yeaaaman]

was horry suspended when he body checked nash into the boards hockey style a few years ago?

Rafer Alston was suspended a game for a light slap to the back of Eddie House's head, so if that's the kind of precedent the NBA wants to set I don't see how Garnett isn't suspended.

[King Lebron LBJ]

I'm sure in the next day or so we should hear some news. Be surprised if he avoids a suspension.

[yeaaaman]

Im a huge PP fan and in LA i believe the medical staff exaggerated and he milked it of course... Kobe,MJ have done the same shit.

PP is banged up and I believe he had a stinger, no player would act like that when you have the game dictated.

Q Rich and PP jaw all the time when they play and KG's elbow push was more like step off. then his emotions got the best of him with several people moving him.

KG should get one game.

Q Rich loses because the refs will pay more attention and PP easily can get his dumb ass in foul trouble.

It's funny how many people swear PP wasn't faking and how many swear Carmelo was faking the other week when he was lying with his eyes closed as people played around him...interesting.

[TheAnchorman]

There should be a way to change the precedent, to the way when an actual fight would mean an actual suspension instead of a slap to the back of the head... because at this rate years from now someone's going to tell his man "you can't do shit" after a shot, then *BAM* ejection for "inappropriate conduct".

[veilside23]

i could careless if kg will get suspended..

i know some kg haters just want the suspension so that the celts would lose.

kg was just trying to make sure pierce is ok.

i dont why people blame kg for all this.

all that q rich had to do is to walk away since they already lost.

qrich probably knew that if kg nor pierce they get suspended they might won the series.. pp and kg might be actors ..

so whats qrich a producer :D

people always tend to bash kg for his actions :D..

[RazorBaLade]

i could careless if kg will get suspended..

i know some kg haters just want the suspension so that the celts would lose.

kg was just trying to make sure pierce is ok.

i dont why people blame kg for all this.

all that q rich had to do is to walk away since they already lost.

qrich probably knew that if kg nor pierce they get suspended they might won the series.. pp and kg might be actors ..

so whats qrich a producer :D

people always tend to bash kg for his actions :D..

he elbowed a guy and ran away. Come on.

[KoRn]

yeah, kg was trying to make sure pierce was ok.....by elbowing richardson in the head?

[RazorBaLade]

yeah, kg was trying to make sure pierce was ok.....by elbowing richardson in the head?

I think he means he didn't want anyone coming up to pierce and hitting him while he's on the ground, because that is what usually happens..

[Hotbullets]

Man, I fugging hate Garnett. What an ass.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

I would cop a 1 game suspension. I'm a huge KG fan, but I wouldn't be upset about him copping that... it was an elbow to the head.

In his defence, he wasn't looking at Quentin, and he was being held by Derozan I think, and he looked like he was frustrated by that and swung his way out of the hold.

Derozan plays for the Raptors. I could live with a game ban :confusedshrug:

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Fox sports is impartial :lol

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2010/04/18/kevin-garnett-nbas-biggest-punk/

[U got Served]

I have not read the entire thread but I'm sure is nothing but

KG is a punk!
THE biggest asshole in the NBA!

Richardson was trying to take the ball out of bounds and KG stood up for his team mate. He did just did it the wrong way.

[U got Served]

he elbowed a guy and ran away. Come on.

We know he elbowed and ran, the question is...
Why did he elbow Rich? I'm pretty sure Richardson was talking some smack to Pierce and KG simply stood up for Pierce.

[RazorBaLade]

We know he elbowed and ran, the question is...
Why did he elbow Rich? I'm pretty sure Richardson was talking some smack to Pierce and KG simply stood up for Pierce.

It's not standing up for him because since KG ran away, there was nothing stopping Q from continuing doing whatever he was doing that got KG upset in the first place. You can't stand up for someone and then bolt out of there, it removes the entire purpose of standing up for the guy.

Richardson has the right to talk smack, KG talks smack. The best way to put it IMO is that it was classless of Q to talk smack/respond to smack talk/whatever to a guy on the other team that's lying on the floor, but that's overshadowed by someone that threw a cheap shot and ran away. There needs to be consequences for actions, if KG is going to choose to stand up for his teammate then he should need to stand there and deal with whatever comes from him standing up for his guy.

edit: I'd fine Q and suspend KG for a game.

sigh I better wake up for the lakers game on time.

[NotYetGreat]

^^^ Lulz. Yeah, that's one game I'd really want to see to. :cheers:

But yeah, I'd doubt he throw it unprovoked. There's no question that he elbowed Q-Rich and he may deserve a suspension, but why he threw it is what's really bugging me right now.

[icemanfan]

was horry suspended when he body checked nash into the boards hockey style a few years ago?
yep for two games.

[BarberSchool]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEymT8g_6HY


before watching this video, i couldn't take sides between garnett and richardson, because i didn't see what happened, and i have to view it from different angles. after watching this video, i side with richardson and miami on this fracas. KG was the clear assailant.

Yup, that video should be PM'd to anyone who didn't see the 2nd elbow, this shows it clear as day.
Garnett should recieve a multi-game suspension, bith to set a tone for this postseason to clean it up, and to send a lesson to Garnett that he needs to stop acting so childish, and inciting conflict to try and make himself look like an enforcer which he is not. this is just sad on so many levels. Sh!t like this probly makes Garnett's mother cry.

[brantonli]

I'm actually impressed that after Garnett threw that second, much harder elbow, Richardson barely reacted. You could see his expression, it barely changes after Garnett elbows him. To keep your composure when a guy talking smack to you and elbowing you twice is something.

[BarberSchool]

It's not standing up for him because since KG ran away, there was nothing stopping Q from continuing doing whatever he was doing that got KG upset in the first place. You can't stand up for someone and then bolt out of there, it removes the entire purpose of standing up for the guy.And to take it one step more, KG's actions actually further endangered Pierce.

KG's actions aren't even rooted in his desire to "protect" Pierce, and I'll explain why. When one uses unecessary violence and incites conflict in an area where someone is injured, it only ups the possibility that the area will become a chaotic dangerous one, with bodies moving around during a tustle, or even falling on Pierce, which KG himself almost did, after he threw the 2nd elbow, and ran out of there, stepping directly on/over pierce's legs. he had to have known that what he was doing could up the chances of pierce being stepped on and injured further, but he did it anyway, in an attempt to look like a tough guy, which he clearly is not. IMO KG is an aspiring bully, and an unfortuneate coward. His behavior in all likelihood probably makes his mother cry. It's truly phony and positively disgraceful for someone his age.

[G.O.A.T]

There should be no suspension.

For once the officials handled it right. KG got two technicals, one for being an a-hole and one for throwing an intentional elbow.

A suspension would only serve to hurt the series.

Back in the day, there would have been nothing called there.

[LJJ]

KG with the cheap shot and the backpaddle. For him it's just a single motion, silky smooth.

[BarberSchool]

There should be no suspension.

For once the officials handled it right. KG got two technicals, one for being an a-hole and one for throwing an intentional elbow.

A suspension would only serve to hurt the series.But do you not also agree that the league office would look like hypocrites, given how many other players have been suspended during the postseason in recent years for similar actions?

Did you think Dwight should not have been suspended for his intentional, far less violent elbow last year in the playoffs ?

[the_chosen_1]

This is the reason people hate Garnett; it doesn't matter what Q-rich said, it is the way KG throws cheap shots while turned away. The only people he faces are tiny point guards. this guy does not act like a man, he's a *****.

[50inchvertical]

Wouldn't be shocked to see JO and KG suspended. JO straight leveled Big Baby into the bench chairs.

[G.O.A.T]

But do you not also agree that the league office would look like hypocrites, given how many other players have been suspended during the postseason in recent years for similar actions?

Did you think Dwight should not have been suspended for his intentional, far less violent elbow last year in the playoffs ?

I don't think anyone should be suspended in the playoffs for any reason short of hurting another player.

Hypocrite is the wrong word, there has been no rhyme or reason to the suspensions they've doled out in the past. It's one of the few things David Stern absolutely fails at in my opinion.

I get what you're saying, but just because they've made the wrong decision a lot in the past doesn't mean they should continue to just to be consistent.

[dough]

http://www.slamonline.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/kgpeeler.gif

[Silverbullit]

I don't think anyone should be suspended in the playoffs for any reason short of hurting another player.

Hypocrite is the wrong word, there has been no rhyme or reason to the suspensions they've doled out in the past. It's one of the few things David Stern absolutely fails at in my opinion.

I get what you're saying, but just because they've made the wrong decision a lot in the past doesn't mean they should continue to just to be consistent.

And for trying to hurt another player!

[nashisbest]

rondo did get away with shoving hinrich last year didn;t he?

and why did miami only get one technical free throw for 2 Ts on KG?

and why the heck is Dwade shooting Ts? shouldn't someone lik arroyo do it?

[Fizdale]

^^^

Haslem got a tech.

Q got a tech.

KG got a double tech.

Baby got a tech.

2 for Miami, 3 for Celtics.

Thus the extra FT for Miami.

And was Arroyo even in the game at that time? Iunno.

[Magic Vinsanity]

KG is the biggest ***** ****** in the NBA. Hit and run as usual.

[BarberSchool]

I don't think anyone should be suspended in the playoffs for any reason short of hurting another player.Honest question:
If a player throws a series of vicious jab, uppercut, elbow, knee and kick combos at another player, and misses with all of them, not hurting or inuring the other player in any significant way, we should not suspend them?

[MK2V1GP]

wow.theres still little girls over here making outrageous claims calling KG a ***** and a girl and scared and all this nonsense? ISH has reached an all time high for trolls and haters. Way to go Jeff. A once great website for basketball talk has turned into this. congrats!

http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/news/story?id=5107909

It all started b/c of Q. And only an idiot refuses to see that. Pierce was down, KG was checking over him, and Q came over there like an in-bred idiot with no respect, standing over Pierce and talkin nonsense, so KG defended his teammate, just like he was supposed to do.

You guys are ****ing idiots, and I'll leave it at that.

[boozehound]

wow.theres still little girls over here making outrageous claims calling KG a ***** and a girl and scared and all this nonsense? ISH has reached an all time high for trolls and haters. Way to go Jeff. A once great website for basketball talk has turned into this. congrats!

http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/news/story?id=5107909

It all started b/c of Q. And only an idiot refuses to see that. Pierce was down, KG was checking over him, and Q came over there like an in-bred idiot with no respect, standing over Pierce and talkin nonsense, so KG defended his teammate, just like he was supposed to do.

You guys are ****ing idiots, and I'll leave it at that.
ah, dont get butthurt. It doesnt matter if Q started "it", KG threw an elbow and connected. The NBA has a specific rule on that. Now, sure, the league could decide to suspend others including KG, but it pretty much has to suspend KG.

and KG is a little *****. all talk and backpedaling. he has been for years.

I think its funny that KG, one of the trashiest and most disrespectful players in the league, couldnt handle getting talked back to.

[G.O.A.T]

Honest question:
If a player throws a series of vicious jab, uppercut, elbow, knee and kick combos at another player, and misses with all of them, not hurting or inuring the other player in any significant way, we should not suspend them?

In that case they should be suspended. As well as if they pull out a gun fire and miss. Some things are obvious and don't need rules.


I don't think "trying" to hurt someone is grounds for suspension. It's too subjective. KG's elbow looked intentional, I thought it was intentional, but there is no way to prove it. If it lands you can suspend him if the guy gets hurt and has to miss game time. Otherwise the officials or the league are deciding the series, not the players.

[zORi]

wow.theres still little girls over here making outrageous claims calling KG a ***** and a girl and scared and all this nonsense? ISH has reached an all time high for trolls and haters. Way to go Jeff. A once great website for basketball talk has turned into this. congrats!

http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/news/story?id=5107909

It all started b/c of Q. And only an idiot refuses to see that. Pierce was down, KG was checking over him, and Q came over there like an in-bred idiot with no respect, standing over Pierce and talkin nonsense, so KG defended his teammate, just like he was supposed to do.

You guys are ****ing idiots, and I'll leave it at that.

Calm down.

I definitely agree that Q started, he had no business going over there, and I'm sure whatever he said wasn't good.

But KG is the one who escalated it, and most likely will be the one suspended. Sad as it is, though, they both definitely added some fire to this season.

[DukeDelonte13]

KG is a ***** and a p*ssy. I hope some scrub on the heat breaks that a**holes leg.

[tontoz]

http://www.slamonline.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/kgpeeler.gif


Typical Garnett, picking on a small guard and getting clowned. He is a punk and a sissy.

[D-Rose]

I think it's pretty ironic that KG is so sensitive to a little trash talk (if that's what Q was doing) when KG talks more of it than anyone in the league.

[Grey Dawn]

wow.theres still little girls over here making outrageous claims calling KG a ***** and a girl and scared and all this nonsense? ISH has reached an all time high for trolls and haters. Way to go Jeff. A once great website for basketball talk has turned into this. congrats!

http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/news/story?id=5107909

It all started b/c of Q. And only an idiot refuses to see that. Pierce was down, KG was checking over him, and Q came over there like an in-bred idiot with no respect, standing over Pierce and talkin nonsense, so KG defended his teammate, just like he was supposed to do.

You guys are ****ing idiots, and I'll leave it at that.

You, my friend, are the idiot. With your senseless defending where your only tactic is calling people names.

It was unquestioningly an intentional elbow to the face (and then running away like the sissy he is). And no, no one was holding him, he wasn't trying to flail around to free himself and made incidental contact. It was a deliberate cheap shot. Just watch the replay (without 'Celt fan' vision). Automatic suspension. End of story.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

eh, just saw the replay on espnnews....doubt any suspension occurs. thanks for getting my hopes up a-hole. jk

[DTD]

One player in the league is allowed to throw elbows to the face with no repercussions by Stern and Stu Jackson:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sTAMUZxfZA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGnnN5BMXwE

[GatorKid117]

Wow, that 2nd elbow from LeBron was brutal.

[MK2V1GP]

Looks like KG shouldnt be the only one suspended. I knew Haslem threw a punch/elbow of his own, but no one here was talking about it. Haslem hitting Big Baby, with a ref RIGHT THERE. lol. Defend that, haters.

http://i42.tinypic.com/16apbpk.jpg

[Derek Zoolander]

Looks like KG shouldnt be the only one suspended. I knew Haslem threw a punch/elbow of his own, but no one here was talking about it. Haslem hitting Big Baby, with a ref RIGHT THERE. lol. Defend that, haters.

http://i42.tinypic.com/16apbpk.jpg
Remember that one guy yesterday, he was this poster from Dallas who was a Boston fan, and he gave up on his team when down 12 at the half of game one, then he came back once Boston got a clear lead and started talking shit?

I remember that guy.
He was a bitch. He reminded me alot of KG.

[King Baron]

Garnett should be suspended. But honestly I don't know if I feel like reading 'the league is out against the celtics' bs for the entire summer and beyond. This is the Celtics last year at the top and I'm pretty sure if he gets suspended and the Heat win this series, the whining will never stop ala Spurs/Suns.

I don't believe in favoritism either, by the rules Garnett should be suspended, and stop getting away with cheap shots all the time. Tough call.

[insidehoops]

KG has officially been suspended for Game 2

http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=5757

[NewYorkUSCtrojan]

The ***** Gay-G got what she deserved. What a puss!

[zORi]

LOLOLOLOL!!!!

He knows better than that.

[thesighter]

Justice prevails.
What say you Celtics homers?

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

Justice prevails.
What say you Celtics homers? Whatever. We'll still get Game 2.

[Big Bang Theory]

Didn't expect a suspension or find it necessary but if that's what it takes to nudge KG towards some respect, then fine.

[NewYorkUSCtrojan]

LOL - Gay-G and Pauley Pierce both been exposed. Their image will always be remember as the NBA's PUSS! Bunch of Fake Thugs!!

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

LOL - Gay-G and Pauley Pierce both been exposed. Their image will always be remember as the NBA's PUSS! Bunch of Fake Thugs!!!!!

[NewYorkUSCtrojan]

http://lostangelesblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/paul-pierce-finals-injury-psp-wallpaper.jpg

http://ihatelebronjames.com/oldwebsite/images/Kevin%20Garnett%20is%20out%20to%20get%20you.jpg

[Moan]

LEt me get this straight, phil criticized the refs and got fined 35k, KG elbowed someone in the neck and got 25k fine... wow

[MaxFly]

It was the right call... You can't throw elbows, especially during stoppages of play. KG should know better and he needs to do a better job of keeping his emotions in check from here on out.

[wang4three]

The suspension was the right call.

[GOBB]

LEt me get this straight, phil criticized the refs and got fined 35k, KG elbowed someone in the neck and got 25k fine... wow

Wow what? Whats your point. I missed it.

[Courtside View]

I wanted to like Pierce, I really did. But after he threw up a gang sign like a f*ckin idiot, I started to really dislike him.

[thesighter]

Hard for anyone to like KG at this point. It aint about emotions, KGs got a history of dishing out cheap shots and running away when he's about to get his comeuppance.

[kunk75]

they will really miss KG's 10 and 6.:roll:

[White Chocolate]

He had to be suspended. This is Miami's chance to get some momentum.

[zizozain]

LEt me get this straight, phil criticized the refs and got fined 35k, KG elbowed someone in the neck and got 25k fine... wow
this
thank you

[zORi]

Wow what? Whats your point. I missed it.

It's that the NBA values it's refs more than it's players.

[RazorBaLade]

Wow what? Whats your point. I missed it.

Why are words dealt with more severely than actions? Doesn't make sense.

[GOBB]

KG recieved a fine and suspension.

The ref situation is a very known issue the NBA has been trying to take control of. Phil Jackson knew very well the penalty for criticizing the refs but guess what? He did it anyway. The bigger the fine the better chance Phil bites his tongue next time so it doesnt become a habit of criticizing officials.

[Kujo]

Really hoping Miami wins this series.

The suspension was well deserved. KG is such a punk. It was a total cowardly act.

[MagicalLA]

KG recieved a fine and suspension.

The ref situation is a very known issue the NBA has been trying to take control of. Phil Jackson knew very well the penalty for criticizing the refs but guess what? He did it anyway. The bigger the fine the better chance Phil bites his tongue next time so it doesnt become a habit of criticizing officials.

I hope you have the same attitude next time the refs make bad decisions in a Philadelphia team game.

[GOBB]

I hope you have the same attitude next time the refs make bad decisions in a Philadelphia team game.

I'm lost part II.

[NewYorkUSCtrojan]

How can we start a petition to send these two clowns to the WNBA? Atleast, have them banned from the NBA. Pauley and Gay-G are both fake ass puss! What a disgrace to professional basketball!!!!

[Meticode]

I'm lost part II.

My wife part LXXXV. I think that's 85, but not sure.

[MagicalLA]

I'm lost part II.


If my reading comprehension was good (english is not my first language) I understood you were blaiming Phil Jackson for being so cocky with the refs, talking bad about them all the time and stuff...

My point is, I hope you say this same thing "its not right to blame the refs all the time" next time this same refs make bad decisions against your 76ers.

[kentatm]

KG recieved a fine and suspension.

The ref situation is a very known issue the NBA has been trying to take control of. Phil Jackson knew very well the penalty for criticizing the refs but guess what? He did it anyway. The bigger the fine the better chance Phil bites his tongue next time so it doesnt become a habit of criticizing officials.

dont forget Phil has a history of bashing the refs.

thats partly why the fine was so huge.

its just like how Cuban got fined half a million for ripping the refs. The fine was so big b/c he has a history of ref bashing.

[GOBB]

dont forget Phil has a history of bashing the refs.

thats partly why the fine was so huge.

its just like how Cuban got fined half a million for ripping the refs. The fine was so big b/c he has a history of ref bashing.

Yup, good point.


If my reading comprehension was good (english is not my first language) I understood you were blaiming Phil Jackson for being so cocky with the refs, talking bad about them all the time and stuff...

My point is, I hope you say this same thing "its not right to blame the refs all the time" next time this same refs make bad decisions against your 76ers.

I'm blaming Phil for breaking a rule in the NBA where he questions the integrity of officiating which is a no no. And as mentioned by kentatm Phil has been a repeated offender which is why a fine would be hefty. The NBA wants to protect the officials from being bashed in the media. Whether Phil was justified behind bad officiating or not? You cant not express it thru the media. Thats my point.

If Sixers are in a game thats poorly officiated? My opinion on the refs doesnt come at a cost. But if the HC for the Sixers did? His opinions do come at a cost. I wont be crying unfair to fine the HC because I'm fully aware of the rule thats been in place for quite some time. Players know what they can and cant say, some tow the line because of how much they make.

Hopefully you understand what I'm trying to say here.

[NewYorkUSCtrojan]

Phil and his mind games.

Phil does not care for NBA's fine. That fine was to get into Kevin Durant's head. Phil is crazy with his mind games.

[MagicalLA]

Yup, good point.



I'm blaming Phil for breaking a rule in the NBA where he questions the integrity of officiating which is a no no. And as mentioned by kentatm Phil has been a repeated offender which is why a fine would be hefty. The NBA wants to protect the officials from being bashed in the media. Whether Phil was justified behind bad officiating or not? You cant not express it thru the media. Thats my point.

If Sixers are in a game thats poorly officiated? My opinion on the refs doesnt come at a cost. But if the HC for the Sixers did? His opinions do come at a cost. I wont be crying unfair to fine the HC because I'm fully aware of the rule thats been in place for quite some time. Players know what they can and cant say, some tow the line because of how much they make.

Hopefully you understand what I'm trying to say here.


Yes I understand it now, and its fair enough.

Anyway, I dont agree with some of the rules the NBA has, this one is a clear example. Has nothing to do with you though, lol.

[Lord Leoshes]

This. Finally a non Celtic fan who isn't too blinded by hate too see the truth.

You two are so right. It should be perfectly legal to elbow people in the face. :wtf:

[jasonresno]

If that elbow wasn't on the basketball court it would have been assault.

He deserves the suspension. The hit didn't come during the game but came during a dead ball. **** him.

[Lord Leoshes]

Finally,someone gets my point. When someone is hurt, the first thing anyone says is back up so that the trainers(in this case)/doctors/nurses/etc can get over there have space to do their jobs. Q kept getting closer and closer until he got shoulder to shoulder with KG and then decided to take another step. I'm watching the replay, asking myself, "where is he going?". He could have realistically gotten any closer to Pierce, and he couldn't have stepped over because there were people on the other side.



So when someone gets close to you you just elbow them?:confusedshrug:

[zORi]

You two are so right. It should be perfectly legal to elbow people in the face. :wtf:
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Splitz77]

I think thats what makes the playoffs fun to watch. So **** all of you. :lol :lol :lol

[sixer6ad]

The strugs in this whole situation is that KG used to be the guy in 'Sota who busted his ass non-stop for a team/city that could not get over the top. People loved him for that and for his effort. He was respected.

That respect is gone. In Boston, the title was Paul Pierce's. It was for Paul Pierce, and KG played a HUGE part in that. Despite that...he is lost. He never won it with HIS team, nor he will NEVER be considered a Celtic great. Now, at the end of his rope, he has turned into a punk ass who mother f's everyone and has "fake rage" so that everyone will think he still plays as hard and carries the load as he once done.

I watch him play, and it is sad. Some really good players turn into role players at the end of their career and act like it. Bill Walton for the Celts was a good example of that. KG - he acts/talks like he's 1st Team All-NBA and every player in the league is getting pissed off about it. I've watched the NBA for over 30 years, and the stars have never been called out the way KG is getting called out. The people who run and up down the floor with him have had enough. So have I.

[RazorBaLade]

Wait when did PJ question the integrity of the refs? Didn't he say that Durant gets superstar calls and he doesn't understand why?

[zORi]

The strugs in this whole situation is that KG used to be the guy in 'Sota who busted his ass non-stop for a team/city that could not get over the top. People loved him for that and for his effort. He was respected.

That respect is gone. In Boston, the title was Paul Pierce's. It was for Paul Pierce, and KG played a HUGE part in that. Despite that...he is lost. He never won it with HIS team, nor he will NEVER be considered a Celtic great. Now, at the end of his rope, he has turned into a punk ass who mother f's everyone and has "fake rage" so that everyone will think he still plays as hard and carries the load as he once done.

I watch him play, and it is sad. Some really good players turn into role players at the end of their career and act like it. Bill Walton for the Celts was a good example of that. KG - he acts/talks like he's 1st Team All-NBA and every player in the league is getting pissed off about it. I've watched the NBA for over 30 years, and the stars have never been called out the way KG is getting called out. The people who run and up down the floor with him have had enough. So have I.

I agree with you on the Celtic great part.

He'll probably only be a C for a total of 5 or 6 years. While probably only bringing 1 ring, this is Pierce's team.

He'll have a legacy of not having pulled his first team to the Finals, and not having been around long enough to be a great Celtic.

Even though he is.

[King Lebron LBJ]

Justice has been done...

[ILLsmak]

Surprised, but glad

-Smak

[blazerjimmy]

Surprised, but glad

-Smak

I too was happily surprised that he was suspended....however, I was hoping that he would get a two game suspension - one for the elbow and one for running away like a little Carmelo.....

[gyu]

For those KG supporters who says he does these stupid things to get in the opponents head to get them ejected or get technicals, how do you explain this one, getting himself suspended?

[dr8ked]

I was looking forward for a good Cavaliers VS Celtics Matchup in the playoffs,since the Last Game of the season they were going at it..

• LeBron James became the fourth player over the last 20 seasons to have four 30-point games against Boston in a single season.

-- Game Stats & Information

Six technical fouls were handed out -- two to Cavs coach Mike Brown , who was ejected. James got one and was spared another when he lingered in the Celtics' huddle during a timeout to exchange words with Tony Allen.

"We don't like them. They don't like us. So I wasn't surprised at all," James said, citing the seven-game playoff series Boston won in 2008 on its way to its 17th NBA title. "It comes from them wanting to be really great, them winning the championship, us wanting to win the championship and having to come through Boston to try to win it.

"The competition -- that's what's good about this game."

Kevin Garnett, who was fined $25,000 for comments about the officials' treatment of Kevin Durant last week, also had words with James but declined to elaborate on what was said.

"Nothing in particular that I want to share or that the NBA wants me to share," Garnett told reporters. "Y'all are trying to cost me another 25."

The suspension will kill the intensity of the game since players will be wary of fines/suspensions. KG won't be his old self and we will be robbed of a good series. :mad: :banghead: Miami might even end up winning the series, even though a Wade VS Lebron series would be nice, it won't be entertaining as much as a CAVS VS Celtics series. The league has officially gone soft. :sleeping

[Sonics4Life]

league went soft years ago but you're right.

i miss taunting. can't even stare a guy down anymore :sleeping

[thesighter]

I don't disagree about the heavy officiating, but you guys are missing the point about Garnett.

He dishes out cheap shots and runs away like a girl, he ain't a tough guy. He is in fact taking advantage of modern day officiating.

If he tried this sort of sh*t during the 80s, he would have been clocked by J.O. or Magloire immediately after. Players had a bit more respect in the past and would self-regulate each other.

[Showtime]

It's pretty sad one douchebag with a beer has emasculated the game.

[RazorBaLade]

league went soft years ago but you're right.

i miss taunting. can't even stare a guy down anymore :sleeping

Unless you're doing it to Kobe that is.. Then you can stare him down, throw fake passes at his head, anything goes.

[sodapop]

Honestly, Kevin Garnett have been all bark, no bite, no action since he came back from his injury. I don't understand the WWE, pumped up facial expressions and he's too scared to play inside the paint? How can a 6'11 power forward flex his mighty authority and get abused by point guards at the same time? Now we have the elbow suspension at a critical time for Boston. You wonder why many people view KG as a selfish weakling? I'm not a KG hater. I've been a fan of KG's since his rookie year in Minnesota. He was never this extreme in Minnesota. I hope KG will learn something from this crucial situation. Right now, KG is stinking up the place, stinking up his team and stinking up himself.

P.S. I wonder if NBA players read the Inside Hoops forum?

[RealKnowledge]

Kg deserved to get suspended. But they making the game real boring with the no taunting, Technicals for the dumbest reason. They need to let them play and just worry about punches

[GOBB]

It's pretty sad one douchebag with a beer has emasculated the game.

Yeah because before that the league was oh so tough. Oh so real. :rolleyes:

[MeLO MvP 15]

of course i like everyone being emotional and fierce... but, garnett really is just an a$$hole... like he has this tough dude mentality but he cant really back it up any more... notice he only picks on smaller players... like its sad for me to admit it cuz i used to love him as a player, but he is just obnoxious now... id like to see him try his sh!t with kmart...

[Myth]

I agree it would be nice for the league to allow a little more to go on like they did back in the day, but KG's suspension is warranted for consistency sake. It wouldn't make sense to let this go while others have been suspended for less or for things that actually happened during a play. If it were the norm for teams to be rough, that's cool, but that is not the way things have gone for the last 5+ years. If the league ever wants to let people battle things out without hefty suspensions, that precedence needs to be set at the beginning of the season.

[kentatm]

It's pretty sad one douchebag with a beer has emasculated the game.


yea, its THAT guy that did it.



It has nothing to do with the massive guaranteed contracts these guys have now.


They still would have let Bill Laimbeer play combat basketball had Larry Bird been making a guaranteed $15 million a year.

[miniharrison37]

Huge discussion on ESPN PTI today if the league is getting soft or not with suspensions. Good points though

[Jakeh008]

I don't disagree about the heavy officiating, but you guys are missing the point about Garnett.

He dishes out cheap shots and runs away like a girl, he ain't a tough guy. He is in fact taking advantage of modern day officiating.

If he tried this sort of sh*t during the 80s, he would have been clocked by J.O. or Magloire immediately after. Players had a bit more respect in the past and would self-regulate each other.

This

-Smak

[BarberSchool]

Kg deserved to get suspended. But they making the game real boring with the no taunting, Technicals for the dumbest reason. They need to let them play and just worry about punchesright, the taunting needs to be allowed, but as soon as the taunting conflagrates into actual physical contact/agression/violence, that's when suspensions and big fines are necessary.

And enough with these overly quick technicals for hanging on the rim.

[23ajay]

Why did garnett get suspended and richardson didnt thats ridiculous richardson walked over to the celtics bench and started shoving people out of the way and then garnett gets suspended for throwing a accidental elbow:wtf: is going on

[04mzwach]

There's a lot of players that throw elbows. It would be dumb as a donkey to ruin the outcome of the series based on one player's actions. Who wants to screw up the entire playoffs? Are some of you Heat fans or something? My god. No one was even hurt. Noah was though. I forgot. :lol

[-M-I]

Why did garnett get suspended and richardson didnt thats ridiculous richardson walked over to the celtics bench and started shoving people out of the way and then garnett gets suspended for throwing a accidental elbow:wtf: is going on

...It was the Heat bench. Don't know why people keep saying Celtics bench.

[KoRn]

Why did garnett get suspended and richardson didnt thats ridiculous richardson walked over to the celtics bench and started shoving people out of the way and then garnett gets suspended for throwing a accidental elbow:wtf: is going on


because all richardson did was yap. if he threw an elbow, then he would have been suspended too.

[04mzwach]

Why did garnett get suspended and richardson didnt thats ridiculous richardson walked over to the celtics bench and started shoving people out of the way and then garnett gets suspended for throwing a accidental elbow:wtf: is going on
I don't think they should make an example of Garnett, but take off your homer glasses or get some new specs. That's not how it happened. :ohwell:

Or was there another incident I don't know about?

[StacksOnDeck]

Why did garnett get suspended and richardson didnt thats ridiculous richardson walked over to the celtics bench and started shoving people out of the way and then garnett gets suspended for throwing a accidental elbow:wtf: is going on

Accidental?

[KoRn]

There's a lot of players that throw elbows. It would be dumb as a donkey to ruin the outcome of the series based on one player's actions. Who wants to screw up the entire playoffs? Are some of you Heat fans or something? My god. No one was even hurt. Noah was though. I forgot. :lol

elbow to the head are different from elbows to the body when one tries to fight for position. and to top that, play was dead. so you don't think dwight howard should have been suspended last year for elbowing dalembert?

[04mzwach]

elbow to the head are different from elbows to the body when one tries to fight for position. and to top that, play was dead. so you don't think dwight howard should have been suspended last year for elbowing dalembert?
There should always be consequences. I just don't want them to "hand" out something like a 3 day suspension, which could "hand" another team the series. I'm good with a 1 day suspension, but the people looking for harsher punishments are the people that I don't agree with. I want it to stay competitive.

[KoRn]

There should always be consequences. I just don't want them to "hand" out something like a 3 day suspension, which could "hand" another team the series. I'm good with a 1 day suspension, but the people looking for harsher punishments are the people that I don't agree with. I want it to stay competitive.

that's kool. i would rather they go back to 80's rule and not suspend them. but these days, since they are suspending players, i just want it uniformly enforced.

[MMM]

Accidental?

I thought the elbow was more of a get off of me elbow instead of an intentionall but it doesn't really matter now.

[Phong]

I thought the elbow was more of a get off of me elbow instead of an intentionall but it doesn't really matter now.When he threw the elbow to Richardson's face only his right arm was being held. So why swing with your left and hit Richardson when the guy who's holding you is on your right?

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/5944/animation1u.gif

And by the way he cocked his left arm his movements weren't restricted at all. I don't know how anybody can think it wasn't intentional.


EDIT: And notice how only one Heat player was holding KG (one arm then wrapped him up when he swung his elbow), yet all the Celtics fans were saying how 7-8 players were surrounding him and that's why he had to fight to get out of there.

[jasonresno]

When he threw the elbow to Richardson's face only his right arm was being held. So why swing with your left and hit Richardson when the guy who's holding you is on your right?

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/5944/animation1u.gif

And by the way he cocked his left arm his movements weren't restricted at all. I don't know how anybody can think it wasn't intentional.


EDIT: And notice how only one Heat player was holding KG (one arm then wrapped him up when he swung his elbow), yet all the Celtics fans were saying how 7-8 players were surrounding him and that's why he had to fight to get out of there.
You're not allowed to call Celtic fans wrong on anything. KG is and will always be Jesus Christ incarnate.