LeBron OWNS Kobe, Durant, and Wade in three straight games!!!!

[PleezeBelieve]

:pimp: :pimp: :pimp:

[Roundball_Rock]

Lebron is on another level than the other top players now, just like peak Shaq in the early 2000's was. :bowdown:

[KingLeBronJames]

LeBron > Michael, Kobe and Magic.

[brwnman]

Why'd you make your own thread?

mlh pointed this out in the game thread where it belongs..

[kurple]

LeBron > Michael, Kobe and Magic.

Melo > KAJ & Wilt

[madmax]

LeBron > Michael, Kobe and Magic.
True dat:bowdown: Lebron is a BEAST

[KingLeBronJames]

Melo > KAJ & Wilt
You wish.

[PleezeBelieve]

How do you OWN three of the top 5 swingmen in the league without your second best player (according to Laker fans :oldlol: )???

[DetroitPistonFan]

How do you OWN three of the top 5 swingmen in the league without your second best player (according to Laker fans :oldlol: )???
Their true second best player is Shaq. Not Williams.

[1987_Lakers]

As a die hard Kobe fan, I must admit that LeBron is without question the best player in the NBA right now.

[Duncan21formvp]

Lebron is on another level than the other top players now, just like peak Shaq in the early 2000's was. :bowdown:

Agreed. Except Duncan and Shaq in the early 2000's were pretty much interchangeable. 2000 Shaq was clearly better though.

[flipogb]

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/.a/6a00d83451c3cb69e2011570aa1397970b-800wi

[Juges8932]

Lol, LeBron did not own Wade by any stretch of the imagination.

[KingLeBronJames]

Lol, LeBron did not own Wade by any stretch of the imagination.
Wade was shut down in the 2nd half.

[PianoMan]

Chris quinn>Lebron

[itsGameTime]

:pimp: :pimp: :pimp:

At least Kobe, Wade and Durant still have something that Lebron doesn't. Four rings and a Gieco sponsored Horse trophy.. :pimp:

[HylianNightmare]

74-8

[Juges8932]

Wade was shut down in the 2nd half.

Yeah....true.

[Dresta]

Wade had a better game then Bron, just Miami's coach is a retard who doesn't play his best players, and Wade had his head up his ass on that last possession, game was over.

[KenneBell]

At least Kobe, Wade and Durant still have something that Lebron doesn't. Five rings and a Gieco sponsored Horse trophy. :pimp:
Fixed.:oldlol:

[PleezeBelieve]

Lol, LeBron did not own Wade by any stretch of the imagination.
Yea, he did. I seen him signing the title after the game.

[GollyImSoGully]

Wade = ring as number 1 guy

Kobe = ring as number 1 guy

Durant = still early

Lebron = 7 seasons and....?

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

At least Kobe, Wade and Durant still have something that Lebron doesn't. Four rings and a Gieco sponsored Horse trophy.. :pimp:
:roll:

[PistonsFan#21]

Wade = ring as number 1 guy

Kobe = ring as number 1 guy

Durant = still early

Lebron = 7 seasons and....?

How long did it took Kobe to get his ring as a number 1 guy? take your time to answer the question

[PianoMan]

How long did it took Kobe to get his ring as a number 1 guy? take your time to answer the question
Rofl. Wade 1 Ring 1 Finals Mvp ill take him over Lebron.

[itsGameTime]

:roll:

Hold up, you thought that was all? While I'm at it.

At least Durant didn't lose in a game of horse to a construction worker. :confusedshrug:

At least Kobe didn't get dunked on at his own camp.

[PistonsFan#21]

Rofl. Wade 1 Ring 1 Finals Mvp ill take him over Lebron.

Thats cool i will take Robert Horry and his 7 rings over Wade :pimp:

[Lebron23]

How long did it took Kobe to get his ring as a number 1 guy? take your time to answer the question

:oldlol: :roll: :oldlol:

13 yrs.

[Roundball_Rock]

Wade = ring as number 1 guy

Kobe = ring as number 1 guy

Durant = still early

Lebron = 7 seasons and....?

Using rings against Lebron when comparing him to Wade and Kobe? The best teammate he has had is prime Big Z. :roll: Lebron is on his way to 60+ wins for the second consecutive year with scrubs. His team has more wins than Kobe's despite having a far inferior team. Wade is playing with scrubs too but he has his team barely above 0.500, not on pace for 62 wins.

[Lebron23]

LeBron, and Durant would surpass Kobe Bryant in the All time lists.

[PianoMan]

Thats cool i will take Robert Horry and his 7 rings over Wade :pimp:
Robbert hory never did it as the main guy rofl. Only 1 i can recall that he deserved or 2 maybe. But yea Wade>Lebron rofl.

[purple32gold]

LeBron, and Durant would surpass Kobe Bryant in the All time lists.
you're doing an incredible impersonation of ms.cleo it really is quite amazing.

[BallsOut]

Thats cool i will take Robert Horry and his 7 rings over Wade :pimp:

Of course you would defend Lebron. After he shat all over your pistons in the ECF not too long ago. Hop off that bandwagon please.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

How long did it took Kobe to get his ring as a number 1 guy? take your time to answer the question
5 seasons...

[KingLeBronJames]

LeBron, and Durant would surpass Kobe Bryant in the All time lists.
LeBron? Maybe. Durant? I don't know about that one.

[PistonsFan#21]

Of course you would defend Lebron. After he shat all over your pistons in the ECF not too long ago. Hop off that bandwagon please.

Can i jump on the Kobe bandwagon then or did you took the last spot?

[PianoMan]

LeBron, and Durant would surpass Kobe Bryant in the All time lists.
Rofl. Your crazy Lebron23 lets not get ahead of ourselves. Kobe has 4 rings 1 finals mvp. But is in a hard Western Conference. Rofl But kobe is way clutcher than Lebron.

[Lebron23]

you're doing an incredible impersonation of ms.cleo it really is quite amazing.


I was being sarcastic. You Lakers fans think that LeBron wouldn't win an NBA title.

It took Kobe Bryant 13 yrs before he won his first NBA Finals MVP.

It took Shaq and Jordan 7 years before they won their first NBA title.

If the Cavaliers acquire Antawn Jamison or Troy Murphy before the NBA Trading deadline.


GAME OVER

[PistonsFan#21]

5 seasons...

LOL! ok there buddy. Kobe started playing in 1996 and won his 1st ring as the man in 2009. Would you like me to do the math for you?

[PianoMan]

I was being sarcastic. You Lakers fans think that LeBron wouldn't win an NBA title.

It took Kobe Bryant 13 yrs before he won his first NBA Finals MVP.

It took Shaq and Jordan 7 years before their won first NBA title.

If the Cavaliers acquire Antawn Jamison or Troy Murphy before the NBA Trading deadline.


GAME OVER
Troy Murphy???? Rofl your funny kid.

[Juges8932]

LeBron, and Durant would surpass Kobe Bryant in the All time lists.

LeBron I disagree with, but w.e, I could at least see it. But Durant? Are you ****ing kidding me? GTFO with that bull****.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

LOL! ok there buddy. Kobe started playing in 1996 and won his 1st ring as the man in 2009. Would you like me to do the math for you?
kobe wasnt the number 1 guy until shaq was traded to the heat. your question was how many years did it take kobe to win as the number 1 option. so either you suffer from mental retardation or you were just trying to be funny, either way the answer is still 5 years.

[konex]

Wade was shut down in the 2nd half.

And LeBron rarely guarded him. Varejo and Parker shut Wade down..

[Lebron23]

LeBron I disagree with, but w.e, I could at least see it. But Durant? Are you ****ing kidding me? GTFO with that bull****.


I'm just trolling the trolls. Durant would be in the same level as George Gervin, Dominique Wilkins, and Tracy Mcgrady.

[BallsOut]

Can i jump on the Kobe bandwagon then or did you took the last spot?

How many more bandwagons are you going to jump on?

[godofgods]

:pimp: :pimp: :pimp:

And you're surprised? Bron is WAYYYYYYYYYYY better than these players. Only Durant has a chance to catch up with Bron (as he is still very young), but I doubt it. The other two, at no point in their careers are better than Bron. NEVER.

[KOBEtherealKing]

I was being sarcastic. You Lakers fans think that LeBron wouldn't win an NBA title.

It took Kobe Bryant 13 yrs before he won his first NBA Finals MVP.

It took Shaq and Jordan 7 years before they won their first NBA title.

If the Cavaliers acquire Antawn Jamison or Troy Murphy before the NBA Trading deadline.


GAME OVER

agree to disagree.. did kobe deserve one of those finals mvp. :confusedshrug:

[itsGameTime]

kobe wasnt the number 1 guy until shaq was traded to the heat. your question was how many years did it take kobe to win as the number 1 option.

LOL PistonsFan21 just got owned.

[lpublic_enemyl]

Chris quinn>Lebron
really? lol lebron is crazy which makes me believe even more that team cannot afford to lose him. PB go troll on O.J A 6'4 mamba. i think i wud love to see those two try to annoy each other :D

[Lebron23]

Troy Murphy???? Rofl your funny kid.


He's a very underrated NBA Player.

Murphy is averaging 14 ppg, and 10 rpg this season.

[Lebron23]

agree to disagree.. did kobe deserve one of those finals mvp. :confusedshrug:


2002 NBA Finals.

But Shaq still put up better numbers than Kobe.

[juju151111]

LeBron? Maybe. Durant? I don't know about that one.
KD is better then KB in his 3rd season.

[PianoMan]

He's a very underrated NBA Player.

Murphy is averaging 14 ppg, and 10 rpg this season.
Hes not underrated. Lol hes playing on a trash team which forces him to get those stats. But whatever.

[lpublic_enemyl]

He's a very underrated NBA Player.

Murphy is averaging 14 ppg, and 10 rpg this season.
troy murphy and mike dunleavey i always get mixed up, which one is called a "blackhole"

[PistonsFan#21]

kobe wasnt the number 1 guy until shaq was traded to the heat. your question was how many years did it take kobe to win as the number 1 option. so either you suffer from mental retardation or you were just trying to be funny, either way the answer is still 5 years.

Exactly...I said how many years did it take Kobe to win as the number 1 option. He couldnt win as the number 1 option until 2009 and he started in 1996. Whats so hard to understand?

[che guevara]

agree to disagree.. did kobe deserve one of those finals mvp. :confusedshrug:
:oldlol: Kobe had no case whatsoever for any of those 3. Stop diminishing Shaq to prop up Kobe.

[KOBEtherealKing]

Exactly...I said how many years did it take Kobe to win as the number 1 option. He couldnt win as the number option until 2009 and he started in 1996. Whats so hard to understand?

:roll: WOW.. this forum needs a smh emoticon.

[BallsOut]

Exactly...I said how many years did it take Kobe to win as the number 1 option. He couldnt win as the number 1 option until 2009 and he started in 1996. Whats so hard to understand?

dude, you got pwnt already so just leave.
http://s2.thisnext.com/media/230x230/Work-Trophy-Complete-Dumbass_9F86A559.jpg

[PistonsFan#21]

LOL PistonsFan21 just got owned.

:confusedshrug: i haven't asked how many years did it take Kobe to win a ring since Shaq's departure.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Exactly...I said how many years did it take Kobe to win as the number 1 option. He couldnt win as the number 1 option until 2009 and he started in 1996. Whats so hard to understand?
u make no fcking sense. how the fck is he going to win a championship as the number 1 guy with a prime shaquille o'neal? are you retarded or just craving attention?

[NBASTATMAN]

Melo > KAJ & Wilt


:applause:

[SEEBASS1234]

Travis Diener>Lebron

[PianoMan]

And you're surprised? Bron is WAYYYYYYYYYYY better than these players. Only Durant has a chance to catch up with Bron (as he is still very young), but I doubt it. The other two, at no point in their careers are better than Bron. NEVER.
Wtf Lebron aint better than Kobe or Wade. lol As for right all you lebron fans go by stats. Wade and Kobe has a better career than lebron so far

[lpublic_enemyl]

u make no fcking sense. how the fck is he going to win a championship as the number 1 guy with a prime shaquille o'neal? are you retarded or just craving attention?
whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa ........ whoa easy now don't hurt nobody :no: not a good question tho pistonsfan21

[NBASTATMAN]

I am not sure which basketball moment bothers me more..Wade missing a free and then Kobe hitting a lucky arse shot to win vs Wade.. Or Wade missing two frees and then loses the ball to Lebron who goes down the court and gets fouled.. Then Lebron actually makes the frees.. OUCH

[BallsOut]

u make no fcking sense. how the fck is he going to win a championship as the number 1 guy with a prime shaquille o'neal? are you retarded or just craving attention?

Don't mind that pistonsfan guy, he just mad about Lebron ****ting on his Pistons and single handedly destroying his franchise. Thus, he now has nothing better to do than than to hop on the Lebron bandwagon.

[MMKM]

The rings argument is junk, it's situational. Replace Kobe with Lebron on the 2009 Lakers, or put him in place of Kobe during the Lakers' Shaq era dynasty, do the Lakers still win 4 championships? Yes.

[PianoMan]

whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa ........ whoa easy now don't hurt nobody :no: not a good question tho
Matter of fact it is a good question. Shaq was way to dominant and deserved those mvp's. But kobe was still young.

[PianoMan]

The rings argument is junk, it's situational. Replace Kobe with Lebron on the 2009 Lakers, or put him in place of Kobe during the Lakers' Shaq era dynasty, do the Lakers still win 4 championships? Yes.
Rofl stop trying to predict the future or past kid. We dont know what could happen its the nba. So you argument doesnt count.

[Lebron23]

The rings argument is junk, it's situational. Replace Kobe with Lebron on the 2009 Lakers, or put him in place of Kobe during the Lakers' Shaq era dynasty, do the Lakers still win 4 championships? Yes.



Even real Laker fans would agree that a Young Kobe was not as good as Prime Shaq.

[lpublic_enemyl]

Matter of fact it is a good question. Shaq was way to dominant and deserved those mvp's. But kobe was still young.
shaq was the number one guy on that team, kobe helped to get those rings... but it was clearly shaq's team

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

The rings argument is junk, it's situational. Replace Kobe with Lebron on the 2009 Lakers, or put him in place of Kobe during the Lakers' Shaq era dynasty, do the Lakers still win 4 championships? Yes.
replace shaq with a prime lebron and the lakers still win 3 championships.

[che guevara]

Rofl stop trying to predict the future or past kid. We dont know what could happen its the nba. So you argument doesnt count.
rofl are lol you lmao kidding? lol you lmao really rofl don't lol think lmao Lebron rofl would've lol won rofl a lol ring lol on rofl those lol Lakers rofl teams lol?

[PistonsFan#21]

u make no fcking sense. how the fck is he going to win a championship as the number 1 guy with a prime shaquille o'neal? are you retarded or just craving attention?

When did Kobe start playing in the NBA? 1996
When did Kobe win a ring as the #1 guy? 2009

Thats a 13 year span. As you said he couldnt win a ring as the #1 with prime Shaq (because Shaq was simply better) but that wasnt my question. I clearly said how long did it took him to get that ring as the #1 (meaning since the start of his career and not since Shaq's departure).

[PianoMan]

Even real Laker fans would agree that a Young Kobe was not as good as Prime Shaq.
Obviously. Shaq was to much for the heat today. Hes still a force to be reckoned with. Shaq is what mattered at the end of the day.

[lpublic_enemyl]

Rofl stop trying to predict the future or past kid. We dont know what could happen its the nba. So you argument doesnt count.
lol he means on a quantum physics level

[PianoMan]

shaq was the number one guy on that team, kobe helped to get those rings... but it was clearly shaq's team
Of course it was shaq's team. He was fianls mvp so clearly he had to do the majority of the work. Kobe fisher and the rest helped get the rings.

[PistonsFan#21]

Don't mind that pistonsfan guy, he just mad about Lebron ****ting on his Pistons and single handedly destroying his franchise. Thus, he now has nothing better to do than than to hop on the Lebron bandwagon.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IVI5W8Eg3Gs/SI8lYL-M6jI/AAAAAAAAABE/hJEyACF7rNQ/s320/YouMad.jpg

[BallsOut]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IVI5W8Eg3Gs/SI8lYL-M6jI/AAAAAAAAABE/hJEyACF7rNQ/s320/YouMad.jpg

http://www.foureyesjokeshop.com/ProductImages/gaggifts/dumbass.jpg

[NBASTATMAN]

Obviously. Shaq was to much for the heat today. Hes still a force to be reckoned with. Shaq is what mattered at the end of the day.


Putting a skinny arse guy on Shaq will not work.. Shaq will not play good defense or rebound that well but he can still hit a 4 ft hook shot.. Strong guys give Shaq a lot of problems at this time...

[artex]

hey pb any updates with lebron?? do anything crazy like flash your nips to get into vip and sit next to him in the club????? and lebron23 is a naruto fan, none of his basketball posts should be taken seriously

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

you know your a real pistons fan when you spend hours defending lebron james.

[PianoMan]

Putting a skinny arse guy on Shaq will not work.. Shaq will not play good defense or rebound that well but he can still hit a 4 ft hook shot.. Strong guys give Shaq a lot of problems at this time...
Strong guys like who rofl. Name them besides Howard. Maybe is spoelstra was to put magloire on him maybe we could put pressure on shaq. But Joel did an ok job.

[PianoMan]

hey pb any updates with lebron?? do anything crazy like flash your nips to get into vip and sit next to him in the club????? and lebron23 is a naruto fan, none of his basketball posts should be taken seriously
Rofl owned.

[PistonsFan#21]

you know your a real pistons fan when you spend hours defending lebron james.

LMAO! Says the guy that spent even more time trying to defend Kobe

[NBASTATMAN]

Strong guys like who rofl. Name them besides Howard. Maybe is spoelstra was to put magloire on him maybe we could put pressure on shaq. But Joel did an ok job.


I didn't mean the Heat.. .. The Heat really have no answer for him.. You double him and Lebron scores easily all day...

[PianoMan]

I didn't mean the Heat.. .. The Heat really have no answer for him.. You double him and Lebron scores easily all day...
Well idk man. We gave them a good fight. Just gotta move on.

[Timmy D for MVP]

I was being sarcastic. You Lakers fans think that LeBron wouldn't win an NBA title.

It took Kobe Bryant 13 yrs before he won his first NBA Finals MVP.

It took Shaq and Jordan 7 years before they won their first NBA title.

If the Cavaliers acquire Antawn Jamison or Troy Murphy before the NBA Trading deadline.


GAME OVER

It took Tim Duncan 2 years to win both NBA Championship and NBA Finals MVP so by the logic of some people on here that makes him the GOAT.

Bron is better RIGHT NOW but only slightly. Better than MJ? No. Better than Kobe overall? Not yet. Durant? Yes.

[Story Up]

:oldlol: :roll: :oldlol:

13 yrs.

It took him 3 years to win a title as the 1st option; the first 10 years he played next to Shaquille.

[PianoMan]

It took Tim Duncan 2 years to win both NBA Championship and NBA Finals MVP so by the logic of some people on here that makes him the GOAT.

Bron is better RIGHT NOW but only slightly. Better than MJ? No. Better than Kobe overall? Not yet. Durant? Yes.
Lol what you mean hes better slightly? who are you talkin about

[Lebron23]

Basketball is a team sports.

A One man team wouldn't win an NBA Championship. LeBron averaged 38-9-9 in the Eastern Conference Finals, but the Magic still defeated the Cavs in the playoffs.

[PianoMan]

Basketball is a team sports.

A One man team wouldn't win an NBA Championship. LeBron averaged 38-9-9 in the Eastern Conference Finals, but the Magic still defeated the Cavs in the playoffs.
But can you still agree that if a person wins the finals mvp, meaning he did majority of the work or was the main man?

[chazzy]

:oldlol: :roll: :oldlol:

13 yrs.

:hammerhead:

[Lebron23]

But can you still agree that if a person wins the finals mvp, meaning he did majority of the work or was the main man?


Wade had a good supporting casts from 2004-2006 because Shaq was still the best Center in the NBA.


:hammerhead:

Sorry.

[Anton Chigurh]

forget lebron this pb guy has to be the most dominant troll of all time. goat troll on ish?

[AKADS]

forget lebron this pb guy has to be the most dominant troll of all time. goat troll on ish?
:cheers: :cheers:

[Maga_1]

Durant will be better than LeBron

[PianoMan]

Wade had a good supporting casts from 2004-2006 because Shaq was still the best Center in the NBA.



Sorry.
I agree but Lebron has a good supporting cast himself. And there was no exuse why he lost last year since he was just sweeping people out the playoffs. I wonder whats gonna be the exuse this year if they lose. Imagine if they lose against the heat lol. (in the playoffs)

[PianoMan]

Durant will be better than LeBron
:lol

[Lebron23]

I agree but Lebron has a good supporting cast himself. And there was no exuse why he lost last year since he was just sweeping people out the playoffs. I wonder whats gonna be the exuse this year if they lose. Imagine if they lose against the heat lol. (in the playoffs)


If the Cavaliers acquire another scoring big man. I think the Cavs would finally win their first NBA title.

A healthy Cavaliers team is head and shoulders above the Miami Heat.

[che guevara]

I agree but Lebron has a good supporting cast himself. And there was no exuse why he lost last year since he was just sweeping people out the playoffs. I wonder whats gonna be the exuse this year if they lose. Imagine if they lose against the heat lol. (in the playoffs)
There's no excuse? I guess 38-8-8 on 49% wasn't good enough for you? If it really was Lebron's fault, people would say it. But it wasn't.

[PianoMan]

If the Cavaliers acquire another scoring big man. I think the Cavs would finally win their first NBA title.

A healthy Cavaliers team is head and shoulders above the Miami Heat.
Well thats an opinion i cant argue with cause who knows :ohwell:

[AKADS]

They lost last year because of the ability of the Magic to miss match the Cavs and lack of support scoring. It happens that was Mo first playoffs, Delonte was the only one to show up. The Cavs got beat by a team that played better then them.

This year there are no excuses if they loose it cause they lost. Shaq is one of the best playoff performers ever. Mo had his chance to learn the playoff style, Parker is a veteran who needs to stick to his job. Delonte just needs to stay on his med and his head in the game, Powe could be a nice addition with his experience and if we play Celtics his ablity to guard KG assuming he guarded him in practice for 2 yrs.

But LeBron played great for the last 3 games. I wouldn't say he owned any of those 3 players but he did finish the game off better then those 3 in the last 3 games.

[PianoMan]

There's no excuse? I guess 38-8-8 on 49% wasn't good enough for you? If it really was Lebron's fault, people would say it. But it wasn't.
Rofl then whats the exuse kid? I dont care how much lebron puts up. See ya cav fans really do love stats. Cause the last time i checked nba was made for teams to get that special ring.

[che guevara]

Rofl then whats the exuse kid? I dont care how much lebron puts up. See ya cav fans really do love stats. Cause the last time i checked nba was made for teams to get that special ring.
:oldlol: I'm not a Cavs fan, you dumbass. I'm just not delusional.

[PianoMan]

They lost last year because of the ability of the Magic to miss match the Cavs and lack of support scoring. It happens that was Mo first playoffs, Delonte was the only one to show up. The Cavs got beat by a team that played better then them.

This year there are no excuses if they loose it cause they lost. Shaq is one of the best playoff performers ever. Mo had his chance to learn the playoff style, Parker is a veteran who needs to stick to his job. Delonte just needs to stay on his med and his head in the game, Powe could be a nice addition with his experience and if we play Celtics his ablity to guard KG assuming he guarded him in practice for 2 yrs.

But LeBron played great for the last 3 games. I wouldn't say he owned any of those 3 players but he did finish the game off better then those 3 in the last 3 games.
Well i have to disagree with you. How can you say lack of supporting cast when they clearly had the best record in the nba. I agree with the mismatch but if you say they didnt show up then ok. But there isnt no lack in their cast.

[Timmy D for MVP]

Durant will be better than LeBron

I have no doubt he'll be the better scorer, that I can agree on with you.

Idk if when it's all said and done he'll be a better overall player.

I've been saying it long before they have been in the media but Durant is like the second coming of Iceman.

[PianoMan]

:oldlol: I'm not a Cavs fan, you dumbass. I'm just not delusional.
So your saying im delusional? Then why are you trying to take up for lebron when clearly you have no argument and cant back it up. And what fan are you who do you support no need to go name calling lol.

[AKADS]

Well i have to disagree with you. How can you say lack of supporting cast when they clearly had the best record in the nba. I agree with the mismatch but if you say they didnt show up then ok. But there isnt no lack in their cast.
I said scoring. They played hard D. they just couldn't shoot. LeBron has a very good supporting cast around him. I think he has always missed a second option that can get 20 a game by himself and he now has that in Shaq. Love Mo but if a team tries to stop Mo they will sucseed.

[che guevara]

So your saying im delusional? Then why are you trying to take up for lebron when clearly you have no argument and cant back it up. And what fan are you who do you support no need to go name calling lol.
Did you even watch the games? You also have yet to present a single argument as to why it was Lebron's fault. I'm a Blazers fan.

[PianoMan]

I said scoring. They played hard D. they just couldn't shoot. LeBron has a very good supporting cast around him. I think he has always missed a second option that can get 20 a game by himself and he now has that in Shaq. Love Mo but if a team tries to stop Mo they will sucseed.
Not to many teams can stop Mo specially when hes hot. I think he fits a good 2 option to lebron, i mean some people were saying that. I have a question for you who do you think is a better 2 option by lebron Shaq or Mo?

[Rekindled]

LeBron > Michael, Kobe and Magic.

maybe , but Bird still >>>> Lebron.

[Maga_1]

I have no doubt he'll be the better scorer, that I can agree on with you.

Idk if when it's all said and done he'll be a better overall player.

I've been saying it long before they have been in the media but Durant is like the second coming of Iceman.

Yep, it could be a nice comparasion

[PianoMan]

Did you even watch the games? You also have yet to present a single argument as to why it was Lebron's fault. I'm a Blazers fan.
Rofl if you go back and check my post i never said it was lebron's fault. His team just lost against the orlando magic because of matchup problems. Not because their team lacked in supporting cast. They lost, they lost to a better team. We will have to see this year's playoff.

[catch24]

Wade played a good game, that second half however was one that he'd like to forget fast. Made one shot out of 8? Missed two FTs in the clutch, and turned the ball over to Lebron who had the game winning FTs to seal the deal. The first half was amazing though, what a f'n shoot-out. Wade, slowly but surely, is "coming back".

Lebron=MVP, head and shoulders above the rest currently.

[AKADS]

Not to many teams can stop Mo specially when hes hot. I think he fits a good 2 option to lebron, i mean some people were saying that. I have a question for you who do you think is a better 2 option by lebron Shaq or Mo?
I think they work well as a 3 man group cause they are all good and willing passer. But i seriously think Delonte is more valuable then Mo. I know he isn't as good of a shooter but he handles the ball just as well, is better at getting into the paint and a top tier defensive player.

If I had to pick one player between Mo and Shaq to play next to LeBron right now I pick Mo. I think he compliments LeBrons game better and can play more minutes. If it were game 7 of the finals I take Shaq cause for one night Shaq can still get you 25 and 10 and control the paint as well as get ppl into foul trouble.

[PianoMan]

I think they work well as a 3 man group cause they are all good and willing passer. But i seriously think Delonte is more valuable then Mo. I know he isn't as good of a shooter but he handles the ball just as well, is better at getting into the paint and a top tier defensive player.

If I had to pick one player between Mo and Shaq to play next to LeBron right now I pick Mo. I think he compliments LeBrons game better and can play more minutes. If it were game 7 of the finals I take Shaq cause for one night Shaq can still get you 25 and 10 and control the paint as well as get ppl into foul trouble.
Yep i would have delonte as 4th option. But the only thing i woudnt trust is shaq in the game 7 because teams just might put him on the line lol. But ill take shaq any day, any night, This man is just beast and has good passing abilites for a center. Oh i think Delonte and Mo are equally good shooters, ill probably give West the edge cause of the three's. And Mo is a better penetrator.

[AKADS]

Yep i would have delonte as 4th option. But the only thing i woudnt trust is shaq in the game 7 because teams just might put him on the line lol. But ill take shaq any day, any night, This man is just beast and has good passing abilites for a center. Oh i think Delonte and Mo are equally good shooters, ill probably give West the edge cause of the three's. And Mo is a better penetrator.
Really I see it the other way. Delonte gets into the paint better and Mo is a dead eye shooter. But if Shaq was a younger a guy like Boobie would be enough as a starting PG. Shaq 5 yrs ago and LeBron could win with almost any teammates.

The only reason its hard to take Shaq right now is I don't see him as 30 - 35 minute a game player for a whole yr.

[PianoMan]

Really I see it the other way. Delonte gets into the paint better and Mo is a dead eye shooter. But if Shaq was a younger a guy like Boobie would be enough as a starting PG. Shaq 5 yrs ago and LeBron could win with almost any teammates.

The only reason its hard to take Shaq right now is I don't see him as 30 - 35 minute a game player for a whole yr.
Hell yea shaq is pat his prime specially with the foul trouble he gets into the first half. No way shaq can get 30-35 minutes of play. Man im so pumped for the playoffs to see whats gonna happen.

[AKADS]

Hell yea shaq is pat his prime specially with the foul trouble he gets into the first half. No way shaq can get 30-35 minutes of play. Man im so pumped for the playoffs to see whats gonna happen.
WOW did everyone on ISH see that a whole conversation between fans of different teams with out trying to say player A > player b. and this team sucks more then your but my players makes then better.

Im looking forward to the playoffs to. You got Celtics and Cavs as the fav IMO, then Orlando and Atlanta both who could go to the finals but could get knocked off early. The Miami, Charlotte and Toronto as teams that could upset someone in the first round. And I assume Chicago in the 8 spot who would give Celtics a great seiries.

And the West. well there are 8 teams who could win it all. The West is stacked.

[Wuxia]

Lebron did not outplayed Wade. Wade was sensational in the first half. I would call it a wash.

That play at the end of the game by Wade was just retarded.

[AKADS]

Lebron did not outplayed Wade. Wade was sensational in the first half. I would call it a wash.

That play at the end of the game by Wade was just retarded.
I accually say Wade out played LeBron for 47 minutes. LeBron just made plays in the last minute.

[PianoMan]

WOW did everyone on ISH see that a whole conversation between fans of different teams with out trying to say player A > player b. and this team sucks more then your but my players makes then better.

Im looking forward to the playoffs to. You got Celtics and Cavs as the fav IMO, then Orlando and Atlanta both who could go to the finals but could get knocked off early. The Miami, Charlotte and Toronto as teams that could upset someone in the first round. And I assume Chicago in the 8 spot who would give Celtics a great seiries.

And the West. well there are 8 teams who could win it all. The West is stacked.
The west is stacked more than a triple whopper. The only team that i see the heat clearly cant beat is the celtics. Its just something about the celtics.

[AKADS]

I think the heats problem is depth. In a 7 game series you are goin to be asking Wade to play superman and Beasly would have to be solid every game. The Heat could make a run but I found it hard to think they will go much farther then maybe the second round.

[PianoMan]

I think the heats problem is depth. In a 7 game series you are goin to be asking Wade to play superman and Beasly would have to be solid every game. The Heat could make a run but I found it hard to think they will go much farther then maybe the second round.
Hopefully Pat riley does something before the trade deadline.

[AKADS]

Hopefully Pat riley does something before the trade deadline.
I really think this season is goin to be decided at the trade deadline more then we have ever seen before.

I mean Butler, Jamison, AI2, Amare, AL Jefferson, Bosh, Harris, Hinrich, Murphy, West, TMac, Joe Johnson,Sammy D, Brand, Prince, Rip, Boozer, Webster, Martin, Ellis, Camby are all names that could had for the right package thats ****ing insane.

[Simple Jack]

Well i have to disagree with you. How can you say lack of supporting cast when they clearly had the best record in the nba. I agree with the mismatch but if you say they didnt show up then ok. But there isnt no lack in their cast.

What playoff team has a worse supporting cast? When have you ever heard of a player winning a ring, or even 66 games with a Mo Williams calibur players as his go-to guy?

The ring argument is stupid. Compare rings at the end of their careers. You are comparing a 14 year career to a 7 year career. On top of that, the logic is irrational. Bill Russell should be the GOAT then. Why is Wilt unanimously considered better than Kobe despite having less rings?

[plowking]

Since when does putting up better stats across the board equal getting owned. Just because Lebron put in two free throws at the end and Wade missed his doesn't mean he was the better player in the game.

Once again the Cavs supporting cast stepped up as well as the bench which dominated the Heat bench.

That being said, Lebron is the best player in the league, followed by Wade and Kobe.

[zabuza666]

kobe wasnt the number 1 guy until shaq was traded to the heat. your question was how many years did it take kobe to win as the number 1 option. so either you suffer from mental retardation or you were just trying to be funny, either way the answer is still 5 years.

You're just arguing semantics like a douche here

[sbw19]

It's the regular season. Playoffs is when real uh ownage is. :pimp:

[lilgodfather1]

Wtf Lebron aint better than Kobe or Wade. lol As for right all you lebron fans go by stats. Wade and Kobe has a better career than lebron so far
Well Kobe, yes but he has played in 2x as many NBA seasons so that is to be expected. But Wade despite the championship doesn't have a better career than LeBron. If you ask any objective fan to list Kobe, Bron, Wade it will be exactly that order. In 5 years, well who knows. LeBron with three championships (and FMVPs) is better than Kobe with 4 (and 1 FMVP).

Kobe has never been as complete of a player as LeBron or Wade are. He never will be. Individually LeBron and Wade are better players than Kobe.

[m y t i n]

It took him 3 years to win a title as the 1st option; the first 10 years he played next to Shaquille.

wait what? when did kobe play next to shaq for 10 years? O.o

[sixer6ad]

Their true second best player is Shaq. Not Williams.

Shaq is playing very well right now. Very well.

[CLE[216]]

Since when does putting up better stats across the board equal getting owned. Just because Lebron put in two free throws at the end and Wade missed his doesn't mean he was the better player in the game.

LeBron owned Wade with phenomenal defense in the final minute.

[plowking]

']LeBron owned Wade with phenomenal defense in the final minute.

Seeing as you quoted my post, I'm guessing you read it. Since when does making a play at the end make you the better player for the game. I guess Gaines outplayed Lebron when he sunk that game winner...

[chazzy]

Seeing as you quoted my post, I'm guessing you read it. Since when does making a play at the end make you the better player for the game. I guess Gaines outplayed Lebron when he sunk that game winner...

Don't you know? Basketball fans have short term memories, you'll get written off if you have a bad week.

[Andrei89]

Wade was shut down in the 2nd half.

So was Bron. Except for 2 last free throws and a steal that was Waade's biggest mistake of the game?

They were both shut down, the only difference between Wade and Bron yesterday was that Bron didn't choke at the FT line like Wade did. And we can all attack wade in this thread. But there was too much expected of him , without him we wouldn't have even dreamt of winning that game. He helped the team so much, scored 30 in the first half then at the second half he got double teamed a lot so he was able to do the pick n roll. DOn't forget how Lebron choked the last 30 seconds when he made that airball from inside:wtf: .

I agree Bron is MVP, he is a leader of his team and you could say he owned Kobe few days ago and owned Durant few days ago. But owned Wade yesterday? No, he was slightly better.

[thejumpa]

lol I don't know if LeBron owned anyone.....but he sure did make his presence known on the basketball court. I mean, he came through in the clutch every time (ft's, key shots vs the Lakers, blocks and stops against OKC, and stopping DWade in Miami). Say what you want but he was a big part in his team winning these 3 games. If he were to play D like this the whole game, THEN he could possibly get a DPOY nod. Until then, he will play decent/average D throughout the game and turn it up when it matters. Kinda wierd but it works for him. The guy is just going crazy right now.


On the flip side, did anyone see LeBron getting hit on that play with Wade. Lol he didn't get touched and had the whole team around him like he was injured. I love LeBron but that was some straight diva ****. No reason to have the whole team around you like that for so long. It's kinda of funny to notice just how much he loves himself and the media. HAha can't say I wouldn't either.

[CLE[216]]

Seeing as you quoted my post, I'm guessing you read it. Since when does making a play at the end make you the better player for the game. I guess Gaines outplayed Lebron when he sunk that game winner...

I wasn't even talking about the entire game...just the last minute or two. Believe me, Wade had me worried in that first half.:lol


On the flip side, did anyone see LeBron getting hit on that play with Wade. Lol he didn't get touched and had the whole team around him like he was injured. I love LeBron but that was some straight diva ****. No reason to have the whole team around you like that for so long. It's kinda of funny to notice just how much he loves himself and the media. HAha can't say I wouldn't either.

Um, go back and watch that replay, Wade smacked Bron pretty hard on his forehead on the way down.

[Story Up]

He owned an injured Kobe? Wow huge accomplishment...

[thejumpa]

']

Um, go back and watch that replay, Wade smacked Bron pretty hard on his forehead on the way down.

I've seen the replay a couple of different times. It didn't look like he got hurt at all. Even if Wade smacked him really hard in the forehead...it's still just your FOREHEAD. I've never been hit hard enough in the forehead to stop for an extended period of time to regroup myself. You telling me that stinging feeling or headache he got was awful enough to have the whole team around you? You have to be joking me:roll:

[Mamba]

He owned an injured Kobe? Wow huge accomplishment...
im sorry but if ur injured, don't take 32 shots a game with the intent of making 11 of them. his name is pau gasol, he ****ing saved ur ass in teh finals. use him

[CLE[216]]

He owned an injured Kobe? Wow huge accomplishment...

LOL

So when an injured Kobe drops 40, everyone's all, "Kobe = GOAT!" but when he has a bad game, it's the injury's fault. I'm also pretty sure Kobe was perfectly healthy on Christmas Day.

[Story Up]

']LOL

So when an injured Kobe drops 40, everyone's all, "Kobe = GOAT!" but when he has a bad game, it's the injury's fault. I'm also pretty sure Kobe was perfectly healthy on Christmas Day.

What the hell are you talking about? He's playing with a bad back and a bad finger. He hasn't been healthy since like early December. And as far as Gasol goes? He had a chance to win the game, missed two crucial layups with the game tied up and then proceeds to miss two crucial FTs to tie the game.

Kobe has been playing bad, I am stressing he seats out until he's healthy but this guy hasn't missed a game in like four years now, he's a warrior but he's doing it at the expense of the team. But honestly, I'm disappointed how no one is stepping up right now.

It's not an excuse, it's a legit reason. If you follow the Lakers you'd know Kobe is far from 100%. He has been shooting like crap in January and late December.

[Mamba]

']LOL

So when an injured Kobe drops 40, everyone's all, "Kobe = GOAT!" but when he has a bad game, it's the injury's fault. I'm also pretty sure Kobe was perfectly healthy on Christmas Day.
im pretty sure kobe bryant with a broken finger is better to have on a team then not having mo williams.

[Andrei89]

What the hell are you talking about? He's playing with a bad back and a bad finger. He hasn't been healthy since like early December. And as far as Gasol goes? He had a chance to win the game, missed two crucial layups with the game tied up and then proceeds to miss two crucial FTs to tie the game.

Kobe has been playing bad, I am stressing he seats out until he's healthy but this guy hasn't missed a game in like four years now, he's a warrior but he's doing it at the expense of the team. But honestly, I'm disappointed how no one is stepping up right now.

It's not an excuse, it's a legit reason. If you follow the Lakers you'd know Kobe is far from 100%. He has been shooting like crap in January and late December.

:lol

[AirJordan&Magic]

There's no excuse? I guess 38-8-8 on 49% wasn't good enough for you? If it really was Lebron's fault, people would say it. But it wasn't.

It is definitely not LeBron's fault that the Cavs lost, he was amazing but people need to put stats in perspective.....Not taking anything away from him, but LeBron's performance in the Ecf had alot to do with both his dominance & Magic's strategy.

50% dominance.....and 50% Magic's strategy......Stan Van Gundy's strategy was basically a case of "Let him get his".

This is why Michael Jordan was swept in the 1986 playoffs despite averaging 43.7 ppg 6.3 rpg 5.7 apg on 50% shooting......I honestly think using a players stats in a series his team lost can be weak at times.

[1~Gibson~1]

Wade was shut down in the 2nd half.
James only played Wade on one possession......albeit it was the one that counted most though (the last one)

[1~Gibson~1]

once again PB maps out a way to get to troll island. the sad part is that you guys are always responding to his threads even though you OBVIOUSLY know that he's just ****in with you all.

out of all the threads he's made, how many of them are/were meant to end up in a LeBron > ??? argument?? about 90% of them is the correct answer.

just some brain food for ya.

nonetheless, i agree with PB though. outplaying Kobe, Durant, then Wade in back to back games is awesome. All 3 were great games and dont forget we were WITHOUT Mo Williams.