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KG5MVP
10-23-2009, 06:54 PM
No other decades have had so much superstars and spectacular players as the 2000s:

Shaquille O'neal - Goat center?
Tim Duncan - Goat PF?
Dirk Nowitzki - one of the best PF's ever
Kobe Bryant - second best SG ever
Wade - MJ's true successer?
Kevin Garnett - also one of the best PF's ever
Chris Paul - really really good PG
Steve Nash - one of the best PG's in history
Jason Kidd - also oneof the best PG's in history
Lebron James - Goat SF?
and so much more

plz stop saying the 80s or 90s were better, the 2000s truly is the golden era of NBA, no other decades have had so much talent

Cyclone112
10-23-2009, 07:11 PM
God you are useless, you can do a list just like that for the 80's or 90's as well.

B-Low
10-23-2009, 07:24 PM
No other decades have had so much superstars and spectacular players as the 2000s:

Shaquille O'neal - Goat center?
Tim Duncan - Goat PF?
Dirk Nowitzki - one of the best PF's ever
Kobe Bryant - second best SG ever
Wade - MJ's true successer?
Kevin Garnett - also one of the best PF's ever
Chris Paul - really really good PG
Steve Nash - one of the best PG's in history
Jason Kidd - also oneof the best PG's in history
Lebron James - Goat SF?
and so much more

plz stop saying the 80s or 90s were better, the 2000s truly is the golden era of NBA, no other decades have had so much talent

90s:

Olajuwon - goat center?
Karl Malone - one of the best pf's ever
Jordan - BEST sg ever
Barkley - also one of the best PF's ever
John Stockton - really good pg
Gary Payton - one of the best pg's ever
Scottie pippen - one of the goat SF's

and so much more

phoenix18
10-23-2009, 07:25 PM
90s:

Olajuwon - goat center?
Karl Malone - one of the best pf's ever
Jordan - BEST sg ever
Barkley - also one of the best PF's ever
John Stockton - really good pg
Gary Payton - one of the best pg's ever
Scottie pippen - one of the goat SF's

and so much more
Fool purposely left out Iverson.

Glide2keva
10-23-2009, 07:26 PM
80's

Dr. J
Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Magic Johnson
Moses Malone
Larry Bird
The Chief
Michael Jordan
Isiah Thomas
Patrick Ewing
Charles Barkley
Karl Malone
John Stockton
Orlando Woolridge
James Worthy
Akeem Olajuwan
Clyde Drexler
Mark Price
Terry Porter
Maurice Cheeks
Adrian Dantley
Bernard King
Dominique Wilkins
Gerald Wilkins
Chuck Person
Reggie Miller
Doc Rivers

Too many to name.

90's

Michael Jordan
Scottie Pippen (He grew as a player in the 90's)
Dennis Rodman (Same as pippen)
Shaquille O'neal
David Robinson
Derrick Coleman
Larry Johnson
Alonzo Mourning
Steve Smith
Nick Van Excel
Latrell Sprewell
Sean Elliot
Mario Elie
Drazen Petrovic
Vlade Divac
Allen Iverson
John, Brent, and Drew Barry (they were all pretty good in their own way)
Jerry Stackhouse
Rasheed Wallace
Wesley Person
Grant Hill
Dikembe Mutumbo
Karl Malone
John Stockton
Jeff Hornacek
Toni Kukoc
John Starks

again too many to name.

artificial
10-23-2009, 07:29 PM
Given that you have seen enough basketball of the 80's & 90's, and know that it goes much more further than listing a couple of names, your opinion should be taken seriously...

...
...NOT

tedloc
10-23-2009, 07:41 PM
you fail op

how old are you?

KG5MVP
10-23-2009, 07:51 PM
you fail op

how old are you?

59, started watching during the 70s

1987_Lakers
10-23-2009, 08:19 PM
early - mid 00's were garbage

But I will say the late 00's was fantastic basketball, the best basketball since the early 90's. We got to see Kobe, LeBron, Paul, Nowitzki, Duncan, Wade, Garnett all playing at an elite level. And all seven of these guys will probably go down as top 25-30 players of all time when it's all set and done.

Melissa
10-23-2009, 08:20 PM
90s > 80s > 00s

Celts34
10-23-2009, 08:23 PM
Even though the op' premise is flawed. There is some truth to what he is trying to say. Its just too early to say it. There is alot of young generational talent in the league today. By that I mean there are a bunch of players that people will remember in 20yrs.

Now its difficult to compare today' players to the superstars and the legends that dominated in the 80's and 90's. But not because the talent isn't there. More because their resumes aren't at that level yet. But alot of us(by us I'm talking about us older fans that got to watch 80's + 90's) need to leave the "golden era" in the past. Regardless of what alot of people believe, there IS alot of good basketball being played now. And in alot of ways yo could argue that the top teams in the league are as stacked now as they've been since the 80's.

Lebron23
10-23-2009, 08:25 PM
59, started watching during the 70s

Hello Rocketsgreatness!!!

You are only 15 yrs.old.

TheAnchorman
10-23-2009, 08:41 PM
Hello Rocketsgreatness!!!

You are only 15 yrs.old.
He's not RG, judging from his previous posts. FinalCountdown would be more like RG than KG5MVP is, even though I'm not sure whether it is him or not.

godofgods
10-23-2009, 09:50 PM
59, started watching during the 70s

LOL. Dude, there is nobody over puberty who likes a fool like KG.

Anyway this decade could've been great, we got Lebron, Dirk, Nash, Duncan, Kidd, Pierce, etc, but too bad there are overrated clowns like Kobe, Amare and KG, who bring the quality down several notches.

Manute for Ever!
10-24-2009, 06:08 AM
No other decades have had so much superstars and spectacular players as the 2000s:

Shaquille O'neal - Goat center?
Tim Duncan - Goat PF?
Dirk Nowitzki - one of the best PF's ever
Kobe Bryant - second best SG ever
Wade - MJ's true successer?
Kevin Garnett - also one of the best PF's ever
Chris Paul - really really good PG
Steve Nash - one of the best PG's in history
Jason Kidd - also oneof the best PG's in history
Lebron James - Goat SF?
and so much more

plz stop saying the 80s or 90s were better, the 2000s truly is the golden era of NBA, no other decades have had so much talent


It's impossible to accurately judge something you never saw
59 year olds don't write "plz" and know how to spell "successor"
You're an idiot

AJ2k8
10-24-2009, 06:14 AM
59, started watching during the 70s

(Whisper) Your profile says 22yrs old...

spree43
10-24-2009, 06:23 AM
80's

Dr. J
Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Magic Johnson
Moses Malone
Larry Bird
The Chief
Michael Jordan
Isiah Thomas
Patrick Ewing
Charles Barkley
Karl Malone
John Stockton
Orlando Woolridge
James Worthy
Akeem Olajuwan
Clyde Drexler
Mark Price
Terry Porter
Maurice Cheeks
Adrian Dantley
Bernard King
Dominique Wilkins
Gerald Wilkins
Chuck Person
Reggie Miller
Doc Rivers

Too many to name.

90's

Michael Jordan
Scottie Pippen (He grew as a player in the 90's)
Dennis Rodman (Same as pippen)
Shaquille O'neal
David Robinson
Derrick Coleman
Larry Johnson
Alonzo Mourning
Steve Smith
Nick Van Excel
Latrell Sprewell
Sean Elliot
Mario Elie
Drazen Petrovic
Vlade Divac
Allen Iverson
John, Brent, and Drew Barry (they were all pretty good in their own way)
Jerry Stackhouse
Rasheed Wallace
Wesley Person
Grant Hill
Dikembe Mutumbo
Karl Malone
John Stockton
Jeff Hornacek
Toni Kukoc
John Starks

again too many to name.

Not to dismiss your point, but Wesley Person? THe barry's? Kukoc? Elie? and pretty much half the players you mentioned were role players at best ... I hope these were meant to be a joke

Back on point though, the first half of the decade was terrible, terrible basketball ... with grossly one sided conferences

But, the next decade is shaping up to be one of the best ever, penty of youngsters will be in their prime in the first five years;

Lebron, Wade, Howard, CP3, Deron, Durrant, Rose, Oden, Bynum, Lopez, Roy, Griffen, Rubio, Bosh, Granger, Melo, John Wall etc. there's a lot of potential for greatness in that group

There's a lot to be excited about

snipes12
10-24-2009, 06:24 AM
the 50's are way better ****ers

andgar923
10-24-2009, 06:41 AM
Not to dismiss your point, but Wesley Person? THe barry's? Kukoc? Elie? and pretty much half the players you mentioned were role players at best ... I hope these were meant to be a joke

Back on point though, the first half of the decade was terrible, terrible basketball ... with grossly one sided conferences

But, the next decade is shaping up to be one of the best ever, penty of youngsters will be in their prime in the first five years;

Lebron, Wade, Howard, CP3, Deron, Durrant, Rose, Oden, Bynum, Lopez, Roy, Griffen, Rubio, Bosh, Granger, Melo, John Wall etc. there's a lot of potential for greatness in that group

There's a lot to be excited about
Some in that list are overrated, haven't proved anything yet and still too early to tell.

JtotheIzzo
10-24-2009, 06:42 AM
No other decades have had so much superstars and spectacular players as the 2000s:

Shaquille O'neal - Goat center?
Tim Duncan - Goat PF?
Dirk Nowitzki - one of the best PF's ever
Kobe Bryant - second best SG ever
Wade - MJ's true successer?
Kevin Garnett - also one of the best PF's ever
Chris Paul - really really good PG
Steve Nash - one of the best PG's in history
Jason Kidd - also oneof the best PG's in history
Lebron James - Goat SF?
and so much more

plz stop saying the 80s or 90s were better, the 2000s truly is the golden era of NBA, no other decades have had so much talent


You for got KG5MVP, GOAT ISH poster.:roll:

lets look at the eighties and nineties shall we:

Magic Johnson - GOAT PG
MJ - GOAT SG
Bird - GOAT SF
Malone - GOAT PF
Jabbar - GOAT C

Barkley, Stockton, Olajuwon, Thomas, Pippen, Robinson, Ewing, Miller, Wilkins, Worthy, McHale, Parish etc...

Tell me which is better.

Manute for Ever!
10-24-2009, 06:47 AM
Which decade did a team of NBA talent get a bronze medal in the Olympics?

lakerfreak
10-24-2009, 06:55 AM
I have to agree with the OP.

This generation of guys are all guys that have the chance to finish within the top 25.

The basketball era got a little bit weak for sometime but I think its picking up finally. The only problem with nowadays is injury prone players. If every player sucked it up and played, the league would be more competitive.

spree43
10-24-2009, 07:01 AM
Some in that list are overrated, haven't proved anything yet and still too early to tell.

That was the point, if they had proven their greatness they would be contributing to the 00's talent

But there's a solid base of established talent, coming into their prime (Lebron, Wade, CP3 etc.) and a good group of talent that will be around until the end of the decade ... not to mention a few more years of Kobe, and that generation of players

And some really high level teams at the top

Abraham Lincoln
10-24-2009, 07:10 AM
The 1993-94 team under '94 rules would still defeat any collection of talent from the 2000's, as would the 1987-88 team.

allball
10-24-2009, 08:41 AM
Bird
Magic
Jordan
Erving
Kareem
Moses
Hakeem
Marques Johnson
Moncrief
Gervin
Isiah
Drexler
Dantley
Michael Ray
Bernard King
Ewing
Pippen
Toney
McHale
Parish
Aguirre
Dumars
Vandeweghe
World B Free
Ron Harper

the only reason the guys of this decade are even half the players they are is because of the guys above.

Glide2keva
10-24-2009, 08:52 AM
Not to dismiss your point, but Wesley Person? THe barry's? Kukoc? Elie? and pretty much half the players you mentioned were role players at best ... I hope these were meant to be a joke

Back on point though, the first half of the decade was terrible, terrible basketball ... with grossly one sided conferences

But, the next decade is shaping up to be one of the best ever, penty of youngsters will be in their prime in the first five years;

Lebron, Wade, Howard, CP3, Deron, Durrant, Rose, Oden, Bynum, Lopez, Roy, Griffen, Rubio, Bosh, Granger, Melo, John Wall etc. there's a lot of potential for greatness in that group

There's a lot to be excited about
Of course I put some role players up there, they were great at their jobs and made watching enjoyable, just because they weren't superstars doesn't mean they suck.

There were tons of players I didn't mention because as I said there were too many to name.

Shep
10-24-2009, 10:14 AM
90's>00's>80's

Silverbullit
10-24-2009, 10:45 AM
The average NBA player nowadays is better than the average players in the 80s and 90s.

JohnnySic
10-24-2009, 10:58 AM
Any decade > 90's, especially late 90's

Bigsmoke
10-24-2009, 11:02 AM
it depends how u look at it. I'm not sure about centers in the NBA but people need to know that the NBA usually improve year by year. If u take out Jordan from the 90's, then i can see no doubt that the 00 more the more advanced decade.

Bigsmoke
10-24-2009, 11:03 AM
You for got KG5MVP, GOAT ISH poster.:roll:

lets look at the eighties and nineties shall we:

Magic Johnson - GOAT PG
MJ - GOAT SG
Bird - GOAT SF
Malone - GOAT PF
Jabbar - GOAT C


.

that will be Tim Duncan

Leviathon1121
10-24-2009, 11:21 AM
The average NBA player nowadays is better than the average players in the 80s and 90s.

The average player in the 80's/early 90's could consistently hit a jumpshot. The average player today is lucky to hit the rim outside of 5 feet. Although your evidence to support your claim was still staggering.

chains5000
10-24-2009, 11:40 AM
It's impossible to accurately judge something you never saw
59 year olds don't write "plz" and know how to spell "successor"
You're an idiot

:roll:

Lord Leoshes
10-24-2009, 12:13 PM
No other decades have had so much superstars and spectacular players as the 2000s:

Shaquille O'neal - Goat center?
Tim Duncan - Goat PF?
Dirk Nowitzki - one of the best PF's ever
Kobe Bryant - second best SG ever
Wade - MJ's true successer?
Kevin Garnett - also one of the best PF's ever
Chris Paul - really really good PG
Steve Nash - one of the best PG's in history
Jason Kidd - also oneof the best PG's in history
Lebron James - Goat SF?
and so much more

plz stop saying the 80s or 90s were better, the 2000s truly is the golden era of NBA, no other decades have had so much talent




How old are you? :no:

Locked_Up_Tonight
10-24-2009, 12:18 PM
The 80's (IMO) was the best generation of basketball. But the 90's (IMO) was pretty awful. The 2000's have been a much better brand of basketball than the 90's.

Silverbullit
10-24-2009, 01:09 PM
The average player in the 80's/early 90's could consistently hit a jumpshot. The average player today is lucky to hit the rim outside of 5 feet. Although your evidence to support your claim was still staggering.

You really backed up your opinion.
Basketball is not only hitting jumpshots.

The average player nowadays is much more athletic than in earlier eras.

B-Diddy=2Easy
10-24-2009, 03:39 PM
How is this idiot listing players who only played like 4 or 5 years in the decade?

Manute for Ever!
10-24-2009, 09:59 PM
You really backed up your opinion.
Basketball is not only hitting jumpshots.

The average player nowadays is much more athletic than in earlier eras.

Because he is comparing overall skill to athletic ability. Athleticism fades with age, skills can constantly improve and this era relies more on athleticism, not skill.

Bodhi
10-24-2009, 10:23 PM
The average player in the 80's/early 90's could consistently hit a jumpshot. The average player today is lucky to hit the rim outside of 5 feet. Although your evidence to support your claim was still staggering.

If that's true, why are 3 point shooters so much better now than they were in the 80s and 90s?

Manute for Ever!
10-24-2009, 10:27 PM
If that's true, why are 3 point shooters so much better now than they were in the 80s and 90s?

Because the three-point line has been there for 10-20 years longer and more shots are taken from that range in general now.

Rekindled
10-24-2009, 10:31 PM
If that's true, why are 3 point shooters so much better now than they were in the 80s and 90s?

you realize that players in 80s 90s didnt have 3 point line growing up right

Bodhi
10-24-2009, 10:36 PM
Because the three-point line has been there for 10-20 years longer and more shots are taken from that range in general now.

So you agree that people are better at taking long range jump shots now than they were in the 80s/90s?

Or do you back the statement that people can't hit jump shots anymore?

Manute for Ever!
10-24-2009, 10:46 PM
So you agree that people are better at taking long range jump shots now than they were in the 80s/90s?

Or do you back the statement that people can't hit jump shots anymore?

Long range shooters are better now but mid range shooters are almost non existent, whereas probably 80% of the league could hit a consistant 15 footer 20 years ago. The general consensus among shooters seems to be "Why shoot from here when I can go back five paces and have a chance at getting an extra point?". The mentality of shooters has changed and I don't think it is for the better, especially when said player is a 7 footer. I hate seeing PF/C's taking long bombs, get your ass under the basket!

branslowski
10-24-2009, 10:49 PM
80's/90's Had better C/F....And possibly PG..(Although, I think 00' have better PG)

But its no debate on which era had/has the Better shooting Gaurds...00'

hitmanyr2k
10-25-2009, 05:15 AM
Main reasons I think the 2000's aren't better than the 90's or 80's.

1. Balance of power. The first few years the Eastern conference was absolute garbage and the Finals was a cakewalk for the West teams. It's gotten better over the years but the first 4 years of this decade were horrible.

2. The center position is almost non-existent now. Dwight Howard would be a 3rd tier center (2nd tier at best) in the 90's. At the moment he's the best this league has to offer which is sad.

3. The league practically handcuffed perimeter defenders so the wing players could score more and make the game more exciting. It was no coincidence after the rule changes swingmen suddenly had career highs in scoring and free throws.

4. Flopping and flailing on offense. And it's not just the Euros. Even the premier offensive players in the league (Kobe, Wade, Pierce, Iverson, etc) are flopping now trying to pathetically fool the refs into blowing the whistle. At the slightest bit of contact the hands fly out and they yell at the top of their lungs like they're getting murdered. It's bad enough that the league is catering to the offensive player these days but to see players flailing to get calls is sickening to watch.

ronnymac
10-25-2009, 05:32 AM
He's not RG, judging from his previous posts. FinalCountdown would be more like RG than KG5MVP is, even though I'm not sure whether it is him or not.
Yes he is.

Abraham Lincoln
10-25-2009, 06:14 AM
80's/90's Had better C/F....And possibly PG..(Although, I think 00' have better PG)

But its no debate on which era had/has the Better shooting Gaurds...00'
Magic, Stockton, K. Johnson, Anfernee, Tim, Rod, Price, Payton, Kidd.



Save for a peaked Nets Kidd & '00 Payton (both of whom overlap) who can possibly be deemed fit to carry the jockstrap of the above point guards?

'Toine=MVP
10-25-2009, 06:44 PM
This decade has been pretty bad until the last couple years. The West was great, but the East was so bad, with teams like the Nets, Pistons and 76ers making it to the finals. Things have been evening out with Shaq winning with the Heat, KG winning with the Celtics, LeBron emerging as maybe the best player in the game and making the finals, Howard emerging as a potentially dominant center and making the finals. There are now 3-5 very very good teams, with many of last year's best teams getting better this year, and with many of the league's best players on the most competitive teams (which wasn't always the case this decade). The past couple years, and potentially the next however many years, has the potential to go down as a great era in the NBA, but the decade can never be considered a great one because of how imbalanced the league was in the first part of decade and how few arguably great teams existed then as well (the Spurs and the Shaq lakers were really it - the Suns, Mavs, and Kings were interesting teams but too flawed to be considered anywhere near great).

Duncan21formvp
10-25-2009, 08:15 PM
No other decades have had so much superstars and spectacular players as the 2000s:

Shaquille O'neal - Goat center?
Tim Duncan - Goat PF?
Dirk Nowitzki - one of the best PF's ever
Kobe Bryant - second best SG ever
Wade - MJ's true successer?
Kevin Garnett - also one of the best PF's ever
Chris Paul - really really good PG
Steve Nash - one of the best PG's in history
Jason Kidd - also oneof the best PG's in history
Lebron James - Goat SF?
and so much more

plz stop saying the 80s or 90s were better, the 2000s truly is the golden era of NBA, no other decades have had so much talent

90's was the only decade where a top 2-3 player in the league won mvp and/finals mvp every year.

PistonsFan#21
10-25-2009, 08:52 PM
Magic, Stockton, K. Johnson, Anfernee, Tim, Rod, Price, Payton, Kidd.



Save for a peaked Nets Kidd & '00 Payton (both of whom overlap) who can possibly be deemed fit to carry the jockstrap of the above point guards?

Chauncey Billups, CP3, Deron Williams, Nash, Tony Parker

Leviathon1121
10-25-2009, 09:03 PM
You really backed up your opinion.
Basketball is not only hitting jumpshots.

The average player nowadays is much more athletic than in earlier eras.

Since when does athleticism translate into being a better basketball player?

And this notion that players are MUCH MORE athletic today then the 90's is absolutely ridiculous.

There are no SG's today that were as athletic as Jordan and Wilkin's.

Find me a list of centers that can rival Hakeem, Robinson, Shaq, or Ewing in today's league. Yes, Oneal's athletic prime was indeed the 90's, I think people forget this.

I am tired of people repeating what they have read online about the superior athleticism and then giving no examples at all. Where is this superior athleticism? The more I look back at the great players of the 80's and 90's, the more I realize how much they are being undervalued by kids today who never get to see them play.

Micku
10-25-2009, 09:41 PM
The players that came out of this decade have potential. CP3, Wade, LeBron, Howard, and the rest of the new players have potential to make things interesting for the next 10 years. Hopefully we'll get more players that'll make things more exciting.

The 00s were ok, but there the teams didn't really start to get really good until the end of 00. After MJ left the league, the east side was crippled until the late 00s. They were some good teams like 04-08 Detroit and 05 Heat, but they never really start to get good until recently. The west side is where everything went down.

We did get some interesting things in 00s in individual traits, but it was a disappointment since some top players never achieve their potential. 09+ is looking very promising though if they can grasp the fundamentals of basketball, skill, and teamwork.

miller-time
10-25-2009, 10:33 PM
Shaquille O'neal - Goat center? - Has spent nearly 50% of his career in the 90s.. where he competed against robinson and olajuwon
Tim Duncan - Goat PF? - Fair enough
Dirk Nowitzki - one of the best PF's ever - No better than Barkley or Karl Malone
Kobe Bryant - second best SG ever - And the best ever was in the 90s..
Wade - MJ's true successer? - like 90s Penny and Grant Hill..?
Kevin Garnett - also one of the best PF's ever ^Same as Dirk
Chris Paul - really really good PG |
Steve Nash - one of the best PG's in history |---- Gary Payton, John Stockton and Isiah Thomas
Jason Kidd - also oneof the best PG's in history |
Lebron James - Goat SF? - Compared to 90s, probably. Ever, no.
and so much more

90s had as much talent in all positions. and MUCH more at center.

lilgodfather1
10-26-2009, 12:02 AM
The 00's has had a lot more depth at PG, SG, and PF than any other era (SG is arguable the others aren't really). The only era that really can compare is the 90's, but the 10's are where I think we will see the best basketball of all time.

Timmy D for MVP
10-26-2009, 01:08 AM
While I believe we are entering a new resurging era of basketball glory:

The OP is dumb. This in no way compares to the 80's. And the 90's were prob better.

magnax1
10-26-2009, 01:27 AM
90's
80's
60's
00's
70's
That is the order, though the late thousands>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>early thousands

Junny
10-26-2009, 02:32 AM
It has the potential to be, but I would really like the NBA to get rid of the Defensive 3-second rule.

CB4GOATPF
10-26-2009, 03:13 AM
This maybe the worst Post of All Time :roll: :rolleyes: :banghead: :hammerhead:

The Only Thing I See the 2000s as Having Better at Average than Decades Before are:

1-Average Athleticism for Mostly Role and Bench Players
2-Three Point Shooting

In The Rest of: Areass, Level of Skills, Level Positions, Level of Superstars, Level of Teams, Level of Role Players etc...Its Nothing Like the 80s and 90s


1) 1980s owns All Decades

2) 1990s
3) Mid 1960s to Mid 70s

4) 2000s and Late 1970s about Equal
5) Early 1960s
6) 1950s

Yes Infact the 80s was the Bet Decade for Man Things not Just Basketball

'Toine=MVP
10-26-2009, 09:46 AM
The Only Thing I See the 2000s as Having Better at Average than Decades Before are:

1-Average Athleticism for Mostly Role and Bench Players
2-Three Point Shooting

In The Rest of: Areass, Level of Skills, Level Positions, Level of Superstars, Level of Teams, Level of Role Players etc...Its Nothing Like the 80s and 90s


Defense? I agree the 80s was a more intriguing decade for the NBA, but that is in part because really good defense hurts the game a little. A lot more interesting things can happen in college football compared to the NFL for that reason as well (even though most people prefer the NFL because pro sports are just generally easier and more interesting to follow).

The biggest reason why the NBA was so great in the 80s wasn't that players themselves were better or because offensive fundamentals were better or even that defense wasn't a central focus, but that players were distributed nearly perfectly over the decade. It allowed for the existence of several stacked teams every year, with the best teams generally performing well in the playoffs making it to the finals, and with slow declines of the great teams and the gradual emergence of other great teams.

The 90's are certainly not very comparable, with only 1 truly dominant team in the 2nd half of the decade (not to mention the final year of the decade which was one of the most seasons years in NBA history). The second tier teams were at least intriguing throughout the decade though, as some of the best players of all time were finishing their effective careers with them.

The 00's were even worse for most of the decade (though I still enjoyed it) with the only two arguably dominant teams coming from the West and somehow never great at the same time, and with the East constantly sending chumps to the finals like the Nets, Pistons, and 76ers (the fact that the Pistons beat that goofy Malone/Payton Lakers teams only makes that part of the decade worse). But the last couple years (and this year seems like it could be better) have been pretty intriguing, getting the NBA into the kind of balance that makes it the best league in all of sports (a place the NBA has not been since the early 90s.

Silverbullit
10-26-2009, 10:20 AM
Since when does athleticism translate into being a better basketball player?

And this notion that players are MUCH MORE athletic today then the 90's is absolutely ridiculous.

There are no SG's today that were as athletic as Jordan and Wilkin's.

Find me a list of centers that can rival Hakeem, Robinson, Shaq, or Ewing in today's league. Yes, Oneal's athletic prime was indeed the 90's, I think people forget this.

I am tired of people repeating what they have read online about the superior athleticism and then giving no examples at all. Where is this superior athleticism? The more I look back at the great players of the 80's and 90's, the more I realize how much they are being undervalued by kids today who never get to see them play.

Do you consider Jordan, Wilkin, Hakeem, Robinson, Shaq or Ewing "average NBA players"?

O.J A 6'4Mamba
10-26-2009, 04:00 PM
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Hammertime
10-26-2009, 04:24 PM
Do you consider Jordan, Wilkin, Hakeem, Robinson, Shaq or Ewing "average NBA players"?

What the hell does most of this board know about average NBA players in the 80s? Can you tell me about the athleticism of Orlando Woolridge? Or Johnny Dawkins? Or vast majority of players not named Michael, Akeem, Karl, or Earvin?

I love how decades after they played, with very little footage out there, people somehow know minute details of the skillset of a guy who played 10 minutes a game on the Warriors in the 80s.

Soundwave
10-26-2009, 05:34 PM
If the product on the court is so much better today ... why are ratings and general interest in the NBA from the public at large way down from the 1990s?

I think the player personalities today are quite bland and the rivalries today suck by and large.

The Kings-Lakers rivalry was awesome, too bad it last like only 3 years.

I also think the removal/reduction of physical play via rule changes has created more scoring yes ... but less intensity.

Abraham Lincoln
12-23-2009, 02:25 PM
What the hell does most of this board know about average NBA players in the 80s? Can you tell me about the athleticism of Orlando Woolridge? Or Johnny Dawkins? Or vast majority of players not named Michael, Akeem, Karl, or Earvin?

I love how decades after they played, with very little footage out there, people somehow know minute details of the skillset of a guy who played 10 minutes a game on the Warriors in the 80s.
:applause:

Maniak
12-23-2009, 02:54 PM
59, started watching during the 70s
Then how come you asked ISH for videos of KG during his t'wolves days?

B-Diddy=2Easy
12-23-2009, 05:17 PM
*Sees no mention of Pierce, a top 10 SF all-time, mentioned as one of the 00s best* *leaves thread in disbelief*

ProfessorMurder
12-23-2009, 05:22 PM
Then how come you asked ISH for videos of KG during his t'wolves days?

Because he's probably really 15 and didn't watch before last season.