Worst 50+ points games

[Charles_Oakley]

Since 1986, we had 50+ points in a regular season game for a total of 151 times.

Only in 13 of these 151 games, the scorer shot below 50% in that particular game. Here are those 13 games where the player scored 50+ points but shot below 50%

In ascending order sorted by FG%


Rank Player Date Tm Opp FG% PTS
1 Kobe Bryant 2006-01-07 LAL LAC .415 50
2 Kobe Bryant 2007-03-30 LAL HOU .432 53
3 Kobe Bryant 2006-12-15 LAL HOU .447 53
4 Dale Ellis 1989-11-09 SEA MIL .462 53
5 Dirk Nowitzki 2004-12-02 DAL HOU .469 53
6 Tracy McGrady 2003-02-21 ORL CHI .469 52
7 Allen Iverson 2005-02-12 PHI ORL .472 60
8 Paul Pierce 2006-02-15 BOS CLE .472 50
9 Gilbert Arenas 2007-01-15 WAS UTA .483 51
10 Michael Jordan 1986-11-01 CHI NYK .484 50
11 Kobe Bryant 2006-01-19 LAL SAC .486 51
12 Kobe Bryant 2007-03-18 LAL MIN .486 50
13 Kobe Bryant 2006-12-29 LAL CHA .489 58


It's interesting to see that Kobe dominates this list with 6 entries.

He also has the worst three 50+ points games since 1986. On top of that he's the only player who "managed" to shoot below 45% in a 50+ point game, which he did 3 times.

7 other players have one 50+point game while shooting below 50%


Edit:

Some more interesting facts...

A player scored 40+ points since 1986 for a total of 1373 times.

Out of these 1373, only in 13 of them the player shot under 40%.

Here's that list, sorted by FG%, ascending order




Rank Player Date Tm Opp FG% PTS
1 Kobe Bryant 2005-12-28 LAL MEM .351 45
2 Allen Iverson 2002-03-08 PHI IND .361 41
3 Kobe Bryant 2002-11-07 LAL BOS .362 41
4 Kobe Bryant 2006-03-08 LAL NOK .364 40
5 Michael Jordan 1986-11-29 CHI GSW .367 40
6 Kobe Bryant 2006-03-03 LAL GSW .379 42
7 Kobe Bryant 2003-02-23 LAL SEA .382 41
8 Paul Pierce 2001-12-01 BOS NJN .382 48
9 Allen Iverson 2002-02-20 PHI GSW .389 46
10 Kobe Bryant 2005-11-27 LAL NJN .389 46
11 Allen Iverson 2003-04-15 PHI CHI .393 42
12 Kobe Bryant 2006-04-16 LAL PHO .393 43
13 Michael Jordan 1987-01-15 CHI HOU .395 43

It's equally interesting that Kobe has 7 of these 13 entries in this list. Moreover, he has the 5 of the worst 7 shooting games over 40+ points.

[marcus007]

I can't say I'm surprised by that list

[MrEncinas]

does just low FG% really make those the worst of the 151 games? Gotta think AT LEAST turnovers and wins/losses have to count for something.

[Twiens]

does just low FG% really make those the worst of the 151 games? Gotta think AT LEAST turnovers and wins/losses have to count for something.

Then it couldn't downgrade Kobe....don't you get it? :oldlol:

[ShowTime LA]

What was the w/l record in those games?

:oldlol:

[HAzE024]

I'm no Kobe homer by any stretch but in all fairness, he has had many more 50 point games than most of the others on that list.

[KenneBell]

What was the w/l record in those games?

:oldlol:
Let me check...

[dr8ked]

Padding Stats = KOBE BRYANT.

[Charles_Oakley]

does just low FG% really make those the worst of the 151 games? Gotta think AT LEAST turnovers and wins/losses have to count for something.

I thought it was pretty obvious with all the emphasis on FG% in the first post that it was meant to be the worst shooting 50+ games.

[KenneBell]

For Kobe:

#1- W
#2- L
#3- W
#4- L
#5- W
#6- L

And really, is 48% considered bad? Especially since one less taken shot or one more made shot would put you over 50%? Pretty trivial...:confusedshrug:

[Charles_Oakley]

What was the w/l record in those games?

:oldlol:

Of the 6 games of Kobe, it's 3-3

Of the remaining 7, it's 5-2 (the losses are Ellis and Pierce)

[Kblaze8855]

Chris webber put up I think 51 points on 48 shots. He also had 26 rebounds but every time I think of it it somehow feels like it wasnt that good a game. If Dirk shot 48 times I cant see him not getting 65-70 points.

[Charles_Oakley]

Chris webber put up I think 51 points on 48 shots. He also had 26 rebounds but every time I think of it it somehow feels like it wasnt that good a game. If Dirk shot 48 times I cant see him not getting 65-70 points.

Yes, Webber was 24/47 on that game. And he had 26 rebounds like you said, which is kind of irrelevant for the purposes of this topic but still a great number.

[gotbacon23]

Chris webber put up I think 51 points on 48 shots. He also had 26 rebounds but every time I think of it it somehow feels like it wasnt that good a game. If Dirk shot 48 times I cant see him not getting 65-70 points.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200101050SAC.html

51 points on 24-47 fg and 3-6 free throws. kinda surprising that he only got 6 fta to his 47 field goals. that season he took 6.6 free throws a game to his 23.4 fga per game.

[barbaroi]

You forget to mention that kobe also had 17 other 50+ point games where he shot over 50%. 2 of those he shot over 70%, and 3 he shot over 60%.
Kobe's 50+ point games (http://www.basketball-reference.com/fc/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player=bryanko01&match=game&year_min=1997&year_max=2009&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&pos=&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=50&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts)

[Showtime]

And yet when people say Kobe is a volume scorer, or a streaky shooter, some fans blast those comments by calling it hate.

[Charles_Oakley]

Some more interesting facts...

A player scored 40+ points since 1986 for a total of 1373 times.

Out of these 1373, only in 13 of them the player shot under 40%.

Here's that list, sorted by FG%, ascending order




Rank Player Date Tm Opp FG% PTS
1 Kobe Bryant 2005-12-28 LAL MEM .351 45
2 Allen Iverson 2002-03-08 PHI IND .361 41
3 Kobe Bryant 2002-11-07 LAL BOS .362 41
4 Kobe Bryant 2006-03-08 LAL NOK .364 40
5 Michael Jordan 1986-11-29 CHI GSW .367 40
6 Kobe Bryant 2006-03-03 LAL GSW .379 42
7 Kobe Bryant 2003-02-23 LAL SEA .382 41
8 Paul Pierce 2001-12-01 BOS NJN .382 48
9 Allen Iverson 2002-02-20 PHI GSW .389 46
10 Kobe Bryant 2005-11-27 LAL NJN .389 46
11 Allen Iverson 2003-04-15 PHI CHI .393 42
12 Kobe Bryant 2006-04-16 LAL PHO .393 43
13 Michael Jordan 1987-01-15 CHI HOU .395 43

It's equally interesting that Kobe has 7 of these 13 entries in this list. Moreover, he has the 5 of the worst 7 shooting games over 40+ points.

[Jacks3]

You forget to mention that kobe also had 17 other 50+ point games where he shot over 50%. 2 of those he shot over 70%, and 3 he shot over 60%.
Kobe's 50+ point games (http://www.basketball-reference.com/fc/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player=bryanko01&match=game&year_min=1997&year_max=2009&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&pos=&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=50&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts)
owned.

[Jacks3]

95 career 40+ games(only MJ/Wilt have more)
23 50+ games(only MJ and Wilt have more)
Incredible when you consider that he's only been the man for 4 seasons.:eek:
Beast :bowdown:

[Showtime]

LOL @ "the man" comment. There's a difference between having an offense run through a player, and said player being the best guy on the team, and the other guy who takes as much, or more shots. Kobe may not have been "the man", but he was taking a lot of attempts. He's a volume scorer.

[Jacks3]

LOL @ "the man" comment. There's a difference between having an offense run through a player, and said player being the best guy on the team, and the other guy who takes as much, or more shots. Kobe may not have been "the man", but he was taking a lot of attempts. He's a volume scorer.
Kobe scores more without Shaq. That is a fact.
Volume scorer? Sure, and a very efficient one at that.In fact, over the past couple of years he's been the most efficient volume scorer in the league.:pimp:

[Showtime]

Kobe scores more without Shaq. That is a fact.
Volume scorer? Sure, and a very efficient one at that.In fact, over the past couple of years he's been the most efficient volume scorer in the league.:pimp:
Your comment about him only being the "man" for 4 years, thus making his scoring achievements more impressive is moot since he was taking as much, and sometimes more shots than Shaq. He didn't do all that in 4 years.

[OldSchoolBBall]

What was the w/l record in those games?

:oldlol:

LOL @ homers trying to justify it. :oldlol:

Also, Kobe has the dubious distinction of being the only player to ever take 45+ shots and fail to score 50 points, when he scored just 41 points on 47 shots vs. Boston in 2003.

[niko]

a bunch of them are from the time pre-suns series where kobe was being a selfish ******* and taking all the shots. he basically didnt trust his team at all and needed to work that out, so jackson let him shoot and shoot and shoot until kobe realized it wasnt' working. It felt like he scored 40 points every game that year.

so this is not surprising.

[nba_on_nbc]

Well, this is quite interesting indeed. Despite being a great scorer Kobe is never known for his efficiency so I'm not totally shocked. But still it puts things into perspective. There's a reason why he's yet to shoot 47% for a season.

[gotbacon23]

i hate defending kobe but this thread is so unnecessary. all but two of those 40 point games came in the 2005-06 season when kobe had no other help besides odom (smush was their 3rd leading scorer and odom isn't always reliable). we all know iverson has never really had significant help, jordan's two games on the list came when charles oakley was the #2 scorer (and oakley was never considered a scorer). antonie and pierce were the only 2 scorers on the celts team when he put up that game.

fact is, these games for mj, kobe, ai, and pierce came when their teammates were not scoring threats at all. when you are head and shoulders above your teammates in scoring abilities (which these guys all are... but in the years these games happened it was particularly drastic), you are going to have some games where you have to shoot a lot when your teammates can't cut it. you can't expect to shoot >50% or even greater then >40% every game. it just so happens, when those guys werent shooting well in those particular games, they still had to shoot as their teammates weren't offensively capable to take more of a load.

i hate kobe, but there seriously isn't a point of this thread. its just spreading hate. people complain about kobe-jocking threads so much, but anti-kobe threads are just as stupid. stupidity breeding more stupidity. if there is another point of this thread other then just to bash a player, then let me know. but i don't see it. and keep in mind i do not like kobe, i just think this thread is skewing some bad shooting games hardcore.

[Jacks3]

Your comment about him only being the "man" for 4 years, thus making his scoring achievements more impressive is moot since he was taking as much, and sometimes more shots than Shaq. He didn't do all that in 4 years.
That's not the point. The point is without Shaq he scores more and has more opportunities to get 40+ and 50+ games.

[FindingTim]

owned.

co-sign. that link tells you all you need to know. This thread (and its original intentions) are officially a joke.

[Jacks3]

:oldlol: at people acting like Kobe is Iverson or something in regards to efficiency. He's actually very efficient as a volume scorer. Right up there with Wade and LBJ.:pimp:

[EastBayFuNk510]

[QUOTE=Charles_Oakley]Since 1986, we had 50+ points in a regular season game for a total of 151 times.

Only in 13 of these 151 games, the scorer shot below 50% in that particular game. Here are those 13 games where the player scored 50+ points but shot below 50%

In ascending order sorted by FG%


Rank Player Date Tm Opp FG% PTS
1 Kobe Bryant 2006-01-07 LAL LAC .415 50
2 Kobe Bryant 2007-03-30 LAL HOU .432 53
3 Kobe Bryant 2006-12-15 LAL HOU .447 53
4 Dale Ellis 1989-11-09 SEA MIL .462 53
5 Dirk Nowitzki 2004-12-02 DAL HOU .469 53
6 Tracy McGrady 2003-02-21 ORL CHI .469 52
7 Allen Iverson 2005-02-12 PHI ORL .472 60
8 Paul Pierce 2006-02-15 BOS CLE .472 50
9 Gilbert Arenas 2007-01-15 WAS UTA .483 51
10 Michael Jordan 1986-11-01 CHI NYK .484 50
11 Kobe Bryant 2006-01-19 LAL SAC .486 51
12 Kobe Bryant 2007-03-18 LAL MIN .486 50
13 Kobe Bryant 2006-12-29 LAL CHA .489 58


It's interesting to see that Kobe dominates this list with 6 entries.

He also has the worst three 50+ points games since 1986. On top of that he's the only player who "managed" to shoot below 45% in a 50+ point game, which he did 3 times.

7 other players have one 50+point game while shooting below 50%


Edit:

Some more interesting facts...

A player scored 40+ points since 1986 for a total of 1373 times.

Out of these 1373, only in 13 of them the player shot under 40%.

Here's that list, sorted by FG%, ascending order




Rank Player Date Tm Opp FG% PTS
1 Kobe Bryant 2005-12-28 LAL MEM .351 45
2 Allen Iverson 2002-03-08 PHI IND .361 41
3 Kobe Bryant 2002-11-07 LAL BOS .362 41
4 Kobe Bryant 2006-03-08 LAL NOK .364 40
5 Michael Jordan 1986-11-29 CHI GSW .367 40
6 Kobe Bryant 2006-03-03 LAL GSW .379 42
7 Kobe Bryant 2003-02-23 LAL SEA .382 41
8 Paul Pierce 2001-12-01 BOS NJN .382 48
9 Allen Iverson 2002-02-20 PHI GSW .389 46
10 Kobe Bryant 2005-11-27 LAL NJN .389 46
11 Allen Iverson 2003-04-15 PHI CHI .393 42
12 Kobe Bryant 2006-04-16 LAL PHO .393 43
13 Michael Jordan 1987-01-15 CHI HOU .395 43


Pretty good names on that list..Mj,Ai ,Kobe and PP...this thread is Krazy..WHAT THE HELL DID KOBE do to all the LOVE bashing this guy? seriously..ive always wondered why all the Hate for Kobe on this site

[MaxFly]

You forget to mention that kobe also had 17 other 50+ point games where he shot over 50%. 2 of those he shot over 70%, and 3 he shot over 60%.
Kobe's 50+ point games (http://www.basketball-reference.com/fc/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player=bryanko01&match=game&year_min=1997&year_max=2009&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&pos=&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=50&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts)

You're missing the point of this thread...

[Knoe Itawl]

Which just goes to show what I, and many others have been saying all along. How many other great scorers could put up similar numbers if they had the kind of greenlight and mentality that Bryant does? Kobe is obviously a great scorer, however as with most of his game that's overrated too.

[barbaroi]

You're missing the point of this thread...
Haha I understand the point of the thread very well thank you. The fact of the matter is in games over 50 points kobe is averaging 55.6%. There are games above that average and games below that average, but does it really require a thread? I think 55.6% isn't bad at all.

[RonySeikalyFTL]

You forget to mention that kobe also had 17 other 50+ point games where he shot over 50%. 2 of those he shot over 70%, and 3 he shot over 60%.
Kobe's 50+ point games (http://www.basketball-reference.com/fc/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player=bryanko01&match=game&year_min=1997&year_max=2009&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&pos=&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=50&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts)


Poor, poor logic. A player can't make up for below average shooting games by shooting a really high percentage the next game... it's not like your team gets extra wins because you had a ridiculous game. Throughout Kobe's career, there've been countless games where he's gone on one of his trademark 30 percent shooting on 30 shot attempt tirades and legitimately caused his team to lose. Shooting 70% the next game doesn't make up for that... and this is what you Kobe diehards fail to understand. You're still left with one win and one loss.

Like the guy before me said, I guarantee you there are many, MANY other NBA players who could put up numbers like Kobe if they had the audacity to come in shoot like there's no tommorow.

[barbaroi]

I guarantee you there are many, MANY other NBA players who could put up numbers like Kobe if they had the audacity to come in shoot like there's no tommorow.
You really think there are "MANY" players who can put up 24 games of 50+ points on greater than 55% shooting? You're being absurd.
Four of the six so called "bad 50 point games" came in 06 when he had no legitimate 2nd option, and in 3 of the 6 he shot 49% which is not bad at all.

[MMM]

People might not agree but Kobe has matured a lot since since the early 2000's-mid 2000's. the Kobe of today is not that same selfish/chucking volume score he once was, if you don't get that by now then you need to GTFO.

[MeloMike]

Wow people really go out of their way here don't they? :oldlol:

By no means am I a Kobe fan, he kills Denver. But when you score 50 as much as he does, you are bound to have a few where the shooting %'s are low. Three of those are 48%, is that really THAT bad?

Give me a break. Why can't people just appreciate the talent he has?

[Darkwing Duck]

What a dumb thread:hammerhead:

[ukplayer4]

whats wrong with those stats, why is everyone taking offense, its a fair point, ive seen far greater scrutiny and more padantic attempts by the kobe nut job fans on this site to try and discredit mj.....only they dont have anywhere near the same evidence because no statistical proof exists that would discredit michael.

[OldSchoolBBall]

You really think there are "MANY" players who can put up 24 games of 50+ points on greater than 55% shooting? You're being absurd.
Four of the six so called "bad 50 point games" came in 06 when he had no legitimate 2nd option, and in 3 of the 6 he shot 49% which is not bad at all.

I think he was referring to the 30+ FGA/30-35% shooting nights that Kobe has had pretty frequently in his career. He tends to not score 50 in those games, but more like 36-42 on like 12-33 FG or something

[Yung D-Will]

You forget to mention that kobe also had 17 other 50+ point games where he shot over 50%. 2 of those he shot over 70%, and 3 he shot over 60%.
Kobe's 50+ point games (http://www.basketball-reference.com/fc/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player=bryanko01&match=game&year_min=1997&year_max=2009&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&pos=&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=50&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts)


This thread was a Kobe hate thread from the begging . Just Disguised it with a different name

[Diesel J]

LOL @ homers trying to justify it. :oldlol:

Also, Kobe has the dubious distinction of being the only player to ever take 45+ shots and fail to score 50 points, when he scored just 41 points on 47 shots vs. Boston in 2003.

:roll:

[Mamba]

there 16-8 when kobe goes 50+

im sorry but isn't a team supposed to win if a player gets 50 or over.

ballhog bryant

[OneMoreSucka]

16-8 is still good...but 22-2 sounds more like what it should be.

[Mikaiel]

there 16-8 when kobe goes 50+

im sorry but isn't a team supposed to win if a player gets 50 or over.

ballhog bryant

The Cavs are 1-2 when LeBron has 50+.

[OldSchoolBBall]

there 16-8 when kobe goes 50+


Yeah, 16-8 is great, but it becomes a lot more understandable when you check the average team record of the opponents.

[Jacks3]

Haha I understand the point of the thread very well thank you. The fact of the matter is in games over 50 points kobe is averaging 55.6%. There are games above that average and games below that average, but does it really require a thread? I think 55.6% isn't bad at all.
this thread is getting owned.

[WADE MONEY]

I'd bet Wilt's 100 was some extra-boring type sh!t.
For real.
Watching a slow 7'9" wingspan laying it in 40 times over slow 6'8" white dudes with drew carey glasses ?

Call me crazy.

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[qrich]

You're missing the point of this thread...

Seems like everyone else. The groupies got offender pretty damn quickly. Its pretty damn funny to be honest.

[Biddy77]

a couple things to point out...

1) even shooting 46% as a high scoring perimeter player is fine. the assumption these days is that you're shooting a higher % of jump shots, and including some 3s in your shot selection. expecting guards to consistently post PF/C fg% figures isn't reasonable. yes, some guys occasionally pull it off. tony parker has been shooting a very high %, for instance. if you look at the big picture of the fg% list for this season, you'll see that the guys shooting very high % are mostly bigs.

2) trivia. i could be wrong, but i believe wilt's 100 point game was before the offensive goaltending rule went into effect. if i'm remembering correctly, a lot of the points he got credit for were shots at the basket that he palmed and dropped in.

[OldSchoolBBall]

a couple things to point out...

1) even shooting 46% as a high scoring perimeter player is fine. the assumption these days is that you're shooting a higher % of jump shots, and including some 3s in your shot selection. expecting guards to consistently post PF/C fg% figures isn't reasonable. yes, some guys occasionally pull it off. tony parker has been shooting a very high %, for instance. if you look at the big picture of the fg% list for this season, you'll see that the guys shooting very high % are mostly bigs.

46% may be fine today for a season, but in individual games there should seldom be a reason to take 30+ shots (and likely use 35+ possessions if you include FT's) unless you're feeling it. 35+ shots/40+ possessions especially. If you're only shooting, say, 40-44% in those types of games, then it's not necessarily helping your team, as most teams shoot better than that as a whole. So you're not making more efficient use of your team's possessions necessarily, plus you're using a large percentage of the team's possessions.

[5150]

I'd bet Wilt's 100 was some extra-boring type sh!t.
For real.
Watching a slow 7'9" wingspan laying it in 40 times over slow 6'8" white dudes with drew carey glasses ?

Call me crazy.

You really think watching any player white or black getting 100 points would be boring to watch?

[strifed169]

Kobe not only hogs the ball but infamous lists like that as well?

[RoseCity07]

Seems all the threads on this forum are ever about is how bad Kobe is, how Wade gets all the calls, how Lebron is overrated. Who the hell cares? It's not like people are tuning into basketball games to watch Von Wafer.

[Flamboyant]

Funny how people try to underestimate how amazing of a player Kobe is, and acting like other greats were flawless. It sort of goes either way, I can find lots of holes in other peoples games as well.

Wanna try me?


Since 1986, we had 50+ points in a regular season game for a total of 151 times.

Only in 13 of these 151 games, the scorer shot below 50% in that particular game. Here are those 13 games where the player scored 50+ points but shot below 50%

In ascending order sorted by FG%


Rank Player Date Tm Opp FG% PTS
1 Kobe Bryant 2006-01-07 LAL LAC .415 50
2 Kobe Bryant 2007-03-30 LAL HOU .432 53
3 Kobe Bryant 2006-12-15 LAL HOU .447 53
4 Dale Ellis 1989-11-09 SEA MIL .462 53
5 Dirk Nowitzki 2004-12-02 DAL HOU .469 53
6 Tracy McGrady 2003-02-21 ORL CHI .469 52
7 Allen Iverson 2005-02-12 PHI ORL .472 60
8 Paul Pierce 2006-02-15 BOS CLE .472 50
9 Gilbert Arenas 2007-01-15 WAS UTA .483 51
10 Michael Jordan 1986-11-01 CHI NYK .484 50
11 Kobe Bryant 2006-01-19 LAL SAC .486 51
12 Kobe Bryant 2007-03-18 LAL MIN .486 50
13 Kobe Bryant 2006-12-29 LAL CHA .489 58


It's interesting to see that Kobe dominates this list with 6 entries.

He also has the worst three 50+ points games since 1986. On top of that he's the only player who "managed" to shoot below 45% in a 50+ point game, which he did 3 times.

7 other players have one 50+point game while shooting below 50%

First, it's funny to judge Kobe by his FG % when comparing him to AI, or MJ, players who are not really known for their 3 point shooting. The point of 50% is to score as many, or more points than how many FGs you have attempted. Jugding by that, here is what Kobe made in those 50+ point games mentioned:

1.) 17-41 FG 7 treys converted in 41 points in 41 attempts
(which means in essence Kobe shot 50%)
3.) 17-38 FG 5 treys = 39 in 38
11) 17-35 FG 4 treys = 38 in 35
12) 17-35 FG 4 treys = 38 in 35
13) 22-45 FG 4 treys = 48 in 45

The only game that Kobe failed to get 50% in essence was the 2 game on the list, when he went 19-44 with only 3 treys.
Well guess what? FG % is not everything. I won't compare it with no other player, but instead I'll compare it with Kobe himself. That game vs Rockets (2007-03-30) is easily better than most of Kobe's 50pt games, excluding maybe like only 7-8 of them. In that game he was amazingly clutch, scoring 17 pts in the last 4 minutes of regulation, including an offensive rebound, and the game tieing 3. What's even funnier is that it was less than 2 years ago. Some people don't really get the game. In that game he also scored 8 of the Lakers' 9 points in overtime. And he did it in purpose to get the Lakers to the playoffs, not just to bump up his stats, as people try to make it seem so.


LOL @ homers trying to justify it. :oldlol:

Also, Kobe has the dubious distinction of being the only player to ever take 45+ shots and fail to score 50 points, when he scored just 41 points on 47 shots vs. Boston in 2003.

Isn't Kobe also the only player to manage to shoot over 60% in a 45+ FGA game?

Also if you are curious about finding interesting stats, MJ is the only player to have 6 40+FGA games, and failing to win at least 1 of them. (in none of which he shot 60%) :oldlol:


http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e59/JimBardhi123/timisgarbo.jpg

2 of those after 3 quarters ( 62 and 56) and 1 of them he had 42 at halftime.

What's your "favorite" player done? I love haters.../thread

Errmmm, Kobe actually has got 50+ in 3 quarters in 5 games, not 2.

62 vs Mavs
56 vs Memphis
53 vs Raptors
52 vs Jazz
51 vs Nuggets


Which just goes to show what I, and many others have been saying all along. How many other great scorers could put up similar numbers if they had the kind of greenlight and mentality that Bryant does? Kobe is obviously a great scorer, however as with most of his game that's overrated too.

Let me hint: the answer to your question will be 0.

Putting up similar numbers to Kobe is pretty much impossible, for most of the greats, leave alone random guys.
When Antoine Walker left the Celtics, I had bet a friend that Pierce will win the scoring title.
Turns out, not everything is as easy as it seems on the paper.

Kobe is the only player to outscore the whole opponent team by himself (62:61 vs Mavs), and 81 is a number that no one can get close in todays game, bar multiple overtimes. Jordans regulation high is 61 if you are curious.
The fact that he has scored more points than MJ in a quarter less, says much.
Who are you implying that can put up Kobe's numbers? I don't see anyone even getting close.

[Psileas]

I'd bet Wilt's 100 was some extra-boring type sh!t.
For real.
Watching a slow 7'9" wingspan laying it in 40 times over slow 6'8" white dudes with drew carey glasses ?

Call me crazy.

Sure. You are crazy. And ignorant.
BTW, this has nothing to do with the topic, especially since Wilt shot better than 50% in that game.


1.) 17-41 FG 7 treys converted in 41 points in 41 attempts
(which means in essence Kobe shot 50%)

Also add that he scored 40 points in the second half, after shooting blanks in the first, he scored the winning basket and also finished with 8 rebounds and 8 assists.

[boozehound]

interesting analysis charles. definitely not too hateful (though the stans will clearly take it that way) but it does suggest that kobe is a volume shooter. Obviously a great player, but some of those shooting %s (especially on the 40 pt list) are terrible.

[Yossarian22]

In fact, over the past couple of years he's been the most efficient volume scorer in the league.:pimp:

By which metric? Field goal percentage? Points per shot?

Neither of those. How has he been the most efficient "volume scorer?"

Let's assume the top ten scorers (in terms of ppg) each year are "volume scorers."

[Yossarian22]

Which just goes to show what I, and many others have been saying all along. How many other great scorers could put up similar numbers if they had the kind of greenlight and mentality that Bryant does? Kobe is obviously a great scorer, however as with most of his game that's overrated too.

True. As Kblaze said - if Dirk took 40+ shots? Dwyane Wade, LeBron James, Paul Pierce...the list goes on.

[hito da god]

notice most of those games are from the 05-06 season when kobe had smush ****ing parker, kwame brown, and luke walton starting on his team.

[Jacks3]

Funny how people try to underestimate how amazing of a player Kobe is, and acting like other greats were flawless. It sort of goes either way, I can find lots of holes in other peoples games as well.

Wanna try me?



First, it's funny to judge Kobe by his FG % when comparing him to AI, or MJ, players who are not really known for their 3 point shooting. The point of 50% is to score as many, or more points than how many FGs you have attempted. Jugding by that, here is what Kobe made in those 50+ point games mentioned:

1.) 17-41 FG 7 treys converted in 41 points in 41 attempts
(which means in essence Kobe shot 50%)
3.) 17-38 FG 5 treys = 39 in 38
11) 17-35 FG 4 treys = 38 in 35
12) 17-35 FG 4 treys = 38 in 35
13) 22-45 FG 4 treys = 48 in 45

The only game that Kobe failed to get 50% in essence was the 2 game on the list, when he went 19-44 with only 3 treys.
Well guess what? FG % is not everything. I won't compare it with no other player, but instead I'll compare it with Kobe himself. That game vs Rockets (2007-03-30) is easily better than most of Kobe's 50pt games, excluding maybe like only 7-8 of them. In that game he was amazingly clutch, scoring 17 pts in the last 4 minutes of regulation, including an offensive rebound, and the game tieing 3. What's even funnier is that it was less than 2 years ago. Some people don't really get the game. In that game he also scored 8 of the Lakers' 9 points in overtime. And he did it in purpose to get the Lakers to the playoffs, not just to bump up his stats, as people try to make it seem so.



Isn't Kobe also the only player to manage to shoot over 60% in a 45+ FGA game?

Also if you are curious about finding interesting stats, MJ is the only player to have 6 40+FGA games, and failing to win at least 1 of them. (in none of which he shot 60%) :oldlol:



Errmmm, Kobe actually has got 50+ in 3 quarters in 5 games, not 2.

62 vs Mavs
56 vs Memphis
53 vs Raptors
52 vs Jazz
51 vs Nuggets



Let me hint: the answer to your question will be 0.

Putting up similar numbers to Kobe is pretty much impossible, for most of the greats, leave alone random guys.
When Antoine Walker left the Celtics, I had bet a friend that Pierce will win the scoring title.
Turns out, not everything is as easy as it seems on the paper.

Kobe is the only player to outscore the whole opponent team by himself (62:61 vs Mavs), and 81 is a number that no one can get close in todays game, bar multiple overtimes. Jordans regulation high is 61 if you are curious.
The fact that he has scored more points than MJ in a quarter less, says much.
Who are you implying that can put up Kobe's numbers? I don't see anyone even getting close.
Great post.:applause:

[Yossarian22]

That game vs Rockets (2007-03-30) is easily better than most of Kobe's 50pt games, excluding maybe like only 7-8 of them. In that game he was amazingly clutch, scoring 17 pts in the last 4 minutes of regulation, including an offensive rebound, and the game tieing 3. What's even funnier is that it was less than 2 years ago. Some people don't really get the game. In that game he also scored 8 of the Lakers' 9 points in overtime.

Down one with 16 seconds left, Kobe traveled and turned the ball over. Yeah.

[RidonKs]

http://hoopedia.nba.com/images/e/e3/Tony-Delk-2006071500_53913.jpg

[Diesel J]

95 career 40+ games(only MJ/Wilt have more)
23 50+ games(only MJ and Wilt have more)
Incredible when you consider that he's only been the man for 4 seasons.:eek:
Beast :bowdown:

You know who the nest top 10 overall and next top 10 active in 50 point games?

[Dresta]

Wade >> Kobe

[DuMa]

a new nickname for Kobe:

GREENLIGHT MAMBA!

[gyu]

Some of you guys trying to justify Kobe's fg% saying that 44-48% is reasonable, it is...however you do not want one player shooting 30+ shots and ruining the offense if he is shooting that kind of percentage. You would only want a player shooting that many shots if they are doing it efficiently.

[Amil23]

Kobe has always been a gut who is know as a guy who needs alot of shots to put up a lot of points

[StacksOnDeck]

Basically this is a Kobe hate thread.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Not surprised, Kobe took endless shots and scored 50+pts...

[artest 93]

Basically this is a Kobe hate thread.

Depends how you look at it. If you're an insecure bandwagoner then yes.

The facts are there, but I hardly think it's too bad on Kobe. Didn't look through the second part of the list but the first one, Kobe shot in the 48% range for 3 of his 50 point games. There's nothing wrong with 48% imo.

[Myth]

I think if you were to try to read into this, the only thing that is obvious is that Wilt and Jordan were better than Kobe, but people already knew that. Kobe has had more 50 point (and 40 point) games than everybody but Wilt and Jordan, so those three really should be the only ones in contention for many spots on the under 50% shooting high scoring games. Its amazing that Wilt and Jordan have more games of high scores yet barely show up on those lists, but compared to everybody else, Kobe has more high scoring games and thus more opportunity to be on those lists. All the talk about Lebron, Wade, Dirk, etcs trying to score that much and potentially doing better than Kobe is all speculation. Only the Jordan, Kobe, and Wilt comparisons from this thread are relevant.

[MaxFly]

Some of you guys trying to justify Kobe's fg% saying that 44-48% is reasonable, it is...however you do not want one player shooting 30+ shots and ruining the offense if he is shooting that kind of percentage. You would only want a player shooting that many shots if they are doing it efficiently.

The problem is that he isn't shooting 44-48% when scoring 50+ points... He's actually shooting upwards of 50% on average.

[Courtside View]

The problem is that he isn't shooting 44-48% when scoring 50+ points... He's actually shooting upwards of 50% on average.

Why make excuses for him having so many entries in the worst 50 point games though? Does that not say ANYTHING about his shot selection? Kobe is a great streak scorer, but what a lot of people say is that he gets far too much credit for streak scsoring, with people ignoring his more atrocious shooting displays.

[Diesel J]

You know who the nest top 10 overall and next top 10 active in 50 point games?


??

[jlauber]

Kobe has FIVE 60+ point games...

1. 60 on 20-37
2. 61 on 19-31 (played 37 minutes)
3. 62 on 18-31 (and he sat out the 4th quarter after single-handedly outscoring the 18-6 Dallas Mavs, 62-61.)
4. 65 on 23-39 (he scored the tying basket in regulation, and nine points in an OT win.)
5. 81 on 28-46 shooting

Incidently, the Lakers went 5-0 in those games.

[Desperado]

Kobe has FIVE 60+ point games...

1. 60 on 20-37
2. 61 on 19-31 (played 37 minutes)
3. 62 on 18-31 (and he sat out the 4th quarter after single-handedly outscoring the 18-6 Dallas Mavs, 62-61.)
4. 65 on 23-39 (he scored the tying basket in regulation, and nine points in an OT win.)
5. 81 on 28-46 shooting

Incidently, the Lakers went 5-0 in those games.


Lakers are 5-0 when Kobe scores 60 but the Bulls are 2-3 when Jordan scores 60.

[Juges8932]

http://images.starcraftmazter.net/4chan/for_forums/obvious_troll.jpg

[jlauber]

Incidently, Wilt scored 60+ games 32 times. There were two games in which we don't know what his FGAs were. In the other 30, he shot 50% or better in 26 of them.

Included in those 60+ point games were:

1. 36-63 en route to a 100
2. 31-62 en route to 78 (along with 43 rebounds.) I only bring this game up because of the rebounds BTW.
3. 29-48 en route to 73
4. 29-43 en route to 73
5. 29-48 en route to 72
6. 27-38 en route to 70
7. 30-40 en route to 68 (and 34 rebounds in a game in 1967)
8. 27-37 en route to 67
9. 26-44 en route to 67
10. 25-38 en route to 67
11. 28-47 en route to 67
12. 29-35 en route to 66 (his last 60+ game, and in 1969)
13. 24-40 en route to 65
14. 25-43 en route to 65
15. 28-43 en route to 65 ( in 1966)
16. 27-45 en route to 62 (against Bill Russell...along with 28 rebounds)
17. 25-42 en route to 62
18. 26-44 en route to 62
19. 26-39 en route to 62 (also had 37 rebounds.)
20. 21-36 en route to 61
21. 24-43 en route to 60

In those 21 games, Chamberlain shot 572-918 for .623 from the field.

Overall, in those 32 games, Wilt's teams went 21-11.

[RazorBaLade]

lmfao fanboys... This site drives me nuts.

You realize that in the first list he had Kwame Brown and Smush Parker in his line up? Yeah. He had to score 50 at any means just to have a damn chance. Also, pretty cute of you to not mention how many times everyone got 50, it doesn't take a genius to understand that since Kobe has the most 50 pt games chances are he has the most inefficient ones as well since for a lot of people a 50 pt game is only a 2-3 per career type thing and it's only when they are totally on.

Same thing can be said for the next list... Notice how not one time Kobe has been on that list while he's had a competent team.

Frankly, your post should have been written in crayon. You are a moron.

[Quizno]

lmfao fanboys... This site drives me nuts.

You realize that in the first list he had Kwame Brown and Smush Parker in his line up? Yeah. He had to score 50 at any means just to have a damn chance. Also, pretty cute of you to not mention how many times everyone got 50, it doesn't take a genius to understand that since Kobe has the most 50 pt games chances are he has the most inefficient ones as well since for a lot of people a 50 pt game is only a 2-3 per career type thing and it's only when they are totally on.

Same thing can be said for the next list... Notice how not one time Kobe has been on that list while he's had a competent team.

Frankly, your post should have been written in crayon. You are a moron.

holy shit, i choked on my water :roll:

[CeoTypeDoe619]

Chris Mihm. Kwame Brown, Shammond Williams, Smush Parker, Luke Walton
Were his startes for that 2-3 year span.
And your mad at Kobe for takinng 40 shots?:confusedshrug:
Lets not forget Kobe got more 60 point games then Jordan
And Jordan had the green light to jack up shots for 12 plus years
Kobe only did it in a 3 year span

[RazorBaLade]

Tired of threads dying after I destroy someone, bump.